Small Block Chevy Build Stage 2, Part 2: Complete Assembly & Dyno Day - Engine Power S3, E3
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2019
- Completing the small block Chevy with trick induction from the heads to the intake manifold. This potent combo makes big power on the dyno.
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so, what was the HP with the 3 inch exhaust ?
Thank you sir 🇧🇩🤝
Please engine fiaring mark and timing mark setting thank you sir
Probably 10hp
Can yall build a DOHC Ford engine
I feel like a crazy person. I rip engines apart all day for work. Then I come home and just watch engines get ripped apart and go back together.
No worries I am in the same boat. My gf thinks I am crazy.
@@dmpl92 Well, I guess it's good to know we're not alone in our crazy. Lol.
If you like what you do, you don't work a day in your life
@@wyndnra1n well that's just blatently untrue. I love what I do. It is still work. I still work by others rules, at a chosen pay by someone else, with people I don't like. It is a great sentiment. It's wrong.
Daiten Lowkie Engine addiction, happens to us all. A fairly menial machine that fascinates the most interested minds.
Thanks for putting this up here for free! I kinda wish Joe was my grandpa
Torque specs are so important. You guys don't disappoint. Glad to know you.
About time someone made a plastic intake for the older style engines like they have for LS motors, the weight saving.
And won't heat soak like metal intake
exactly!
Yeah I guess but I think I just like the classic look of an greatly machined aluminum intake not some black plastic stuff
@@nobullshit9721 yeah
John McWade aluminium Manifold barely weigh 10lbs
Great explanation of the importance of proper torque!
I gotta say I love your show. I'm a long time viewer of the program. It all started back in the times of network T.V. I watched the first episode when I was a teen. I'm now a Licensed mechanic. The knowledge I have gained from watching has given me an edge on in may career.
Now my 5 year old watches the show with me. Thanks to RTM for keeping the show going, everyone involved are Legends in my life!
Keep up the awesome job!
The main reason I clicked on this video was because of the plastic intake manifold. Nice to see something different.
I know this is just a 20 minute Ad, but i cant stop watching them
Good to see Joe on here. Takes me back. Ive never heard of those polymer intakes up until now. The design is pretty cool
The intakes are nice I know a couple guys that's running them on street rods.they said they noticed there engines improvments.i couldn't tell tho they were still in my rear view mirror ..lol
I miss seeing old Joe drop in on the shows. Feel like I watched him most of my life.
Sadly, he's no longer with us now. I came to watch and reminisce.
This 383 is almost identical to my old 383 set up. Same heads and intake but with comp cam XR292r in mine (254/260 612/618 lift 110 lsa) and 750 carb. Interesting to know what power it was making. Looking forward to the part 3 of this to see if its anything like what im building now. Im now building a new short block for this top end to go on. Its a dart little M with a 3.8 inch stroke and 4.165 bore to make 414ci. Hope to make 600hp.
Sir I believe you will!
Amazing the detail that goes into assembling an engine.
One of the best things about watching engine builds (other than the great content) is that RUclips doesn't even bother forcing me to watch Bloomberg ads!
Now I get car insurance ads that are like “car dealerships will hate you for the trick I am going to show you” no one is falling for that besides old people which I guess is their target demographic
LOVE this series. thank you, bros.
You guys have best job. Lots of hard work im sure
Those are some huge heads for that 383.
Thanks, I really learned good stuff with your videos!
Man, you guys are marvelous. I'd like to see a stage 2 built up using Edelbrock's twin carb tunnel ram intake, either one will would, either the victor or the older version. I'm building a 9500rpm 3.000" stroke with a 4.03 bore block like you've used here. I might use the dart 4.5 bore spacing block rendering the use of 4.250" bores to un-shroud bigger valves making my combo easier to get the rpm I'm after. There's way good valve train assemblies available today to make a high-rpm unbelievable sounding small block chevy. High Horsepower isn't mandatory in my application, coolness of sound is in my 37 chevy pickup build is. In my application coolness rocks
and this little small motor is just what the doctor orders. You guys are the bomb. 💥
Just now notice they miss calculated on their engine with a 900 cfm carb when actually they only turned it to 6500 rpm so 383x 6500 divided by 3456 equals a 750 cfm carb seems to be more suited for this engine
"No cutting corners on spark plugs" ... (then proceeds to install gimmicky plugs - from a sponsor, of course). LOL!
E3 lol
Yeah but E3 came in and proved that their plugs are better with "their computer" lmao
@@Trigger_32 Indeed. I'm sure they're VERY unbiased about their own plugs, LOL
Yep....and no matter what I've done in my shop...it seems GM engines absolutely LOVE GM plugs...just works perfectly.
@@nbrowser GM doesn't make spark plugs....
Absolutely loving the tech talk here! No gimmicks, real science!
Heath Woodlee you’re funny
Thank you
Friend: "consistency is built on teamwork & determination".
Me: "you forgot the most important thing, 💰 money.
Patience weedhopper.
Great stuff. Nice for jobs and business. And specifically for talented ppl like u. Thanks
Awesome video guys
Great to set Joe again!
These guys need to watch engine masters and learn from the trio
Jonathan Thomsen These guys build engines to sell product. It's literally their job.
@@alexcorona Exactly. Some people win the Engine Masters tournament by using OEM parts in engines that were never designed to take them. You can find strokers that used Chevy connecting rods in MOPAR and Pontiac engines for example.
That 383 bottom end with that compression would like a set of 195's better. 220's really shine on 400 plus ci.
Nice build. I would've tried a set of Brisk spark plugs, set of step headers and a old school velocity stack.
Lmao Love the ending there. "Peace"
At 887 cfm you should have ran an 850. BUT, You are off your target of 8000 rpm by 1500. 383*6500/3456= 720 cfm, or a 750
Great video
Old school trick running 3 carb spacers on a small blk 318, mild cam & heads with cast iron carter intake makes easy solid hp
That's awesome, how come there's not just a complete package on this? My garage project would be complete finally 🤗🌴
Ya 536 that's definitely chuckle numbers. After that it got serious tho.) Great build guys.
Love the video deuces
That would make a sweet street strip Moto. Even drive it to the track
Thank you sir 🇧🇩 🤝
i’m planning to build a 350 exactly like this and i’m gonna put it in my mini truck
Joe seems like the kind of guy that never leaves a dyno room not covered in oil and broken rods.
Bawg Deep!!
Pat loves his pens. More pens = more HP :)
@Pop's Garage Mayhem hah yes exactly mate 😁
I used the formula for carburetor and my 600 CBM Edelbrock was really close !! But I want to make it so I can put on a 750 !
Love this channel, but I use the click torque wrench. LOL skid-more to calibrate. The team is always welcome at my shope....
It would be nice to see more Ford or Mopar builds
I agree. Practically every car channel has had an SBC build from mild to wild. Although BBC builds are less common, they still are much more common than anything else, and still vary from mild to wild.
Dammitman!...BOWTIES RULE!!!
Anti- seize on the plugs will decrease heat transfer from the plug to the head causing shorter plug life. GM has a TSB about this.
I know everybody does it, but I’m just sayin’
where did the 8000 rpm go?
scared
Bolts and pistons would've been all over the floor😅😅😅
@@demarques1911 balance and blueprint...
They may have built the engine to run up to 8K, they quickly found out that 6500 is the peak HP, no need to twist it higher
Carb is wrong size then
I like how they gave the accuracy of the bar type and click torque wrenches, and then just casually skipped on the electric one haha.
I wouldn’t put E3 plugs in my ex’s wife’s new husbands lawn mower.
Why
onlylikenerd because they were just a scam. Overpriced spark plugs with no gains over a decent plug.
ACPHOTO so they’re equivalent to a decent plug? That doesn’t sound bad.
@@lawnmowerdude Yea at 3x the price
Autolite champions all day every day 😝 at least on older style hot rods
While watching this, I saw an ad for Maxim automotive integrated circuits. Buy Texas Instruments automotive integrated circuits!!!
I wish you were my neighbors” 😏👍🏼✌️🌎💯
I always wanted to see if my torque wrench was in spec. I remember watching a youtube were the person tested a Snap-on, Mac and Harbor Freight torque wrenches on one of these. All of them were in specs. including the 9.99 on sale Harbor Freight ..
Any reason why you didn't show the power figure at 14:48 after switching to the 3inch exhaust? You've showing power & torque the entire video...
I love it when he said or simply get on summits website and put the thing on he was looking at him like what the f*** are you talking about. Surprised you didn't put all the markers in his pockets. I have work with guys like that and let me tell you most guys will be like what in the hell get that guy out of my shop know-it-all.
Interesting how chevys use a mopar type shaft mount rocker system when building high horsepower motors. Chrysler knew what they were doing 👍🏻
john preston ..... & you have cooties! 😂😂😂
Ada 1812 ..... & rent a dumpster when your building a Chevy, so you have a place to put all the garage factory parts 🖕🏻😬
The reason Chevy engines didn't have shaft rockers is because they were cheaper, and when an engine has a mild cam, the added strength of shaft rockers is not needed. It only becomes important when aggressive cams are used.
As I remember, the Magnum series 318 and 360 was given stud mounted rockers because they were cheaper and didn't have to deal with aggressive cams.
Skyline Fever .... you are exactly right. 👍🏻
If you buy rockers, 5/16 studs, and then add a girdle, you spend about the same as the Sportsman shaft set-up. It was a choice, not a requirement.
Does blocking the exhaust crossover help or hurt performance on a street-strip engine?
What is the static compression of the engine and which AFR 220s the Race ready or the Competition cnc ported heads, with that much cam I would have expected 600+ hp and 550+ torque?
Pay 600$ for a intake has to drill holes in it
An additional comment that I must make, the 383 combo is not an 8000 rpm type engine. A 302 or any variant with a shorter stroke would be a better choice. I don't think the parts combo was the best, rather just some things that were thought to work rather than parts that were really thought out. I say this as a person that has built a lot of engines over the years and has lots of time with a Superflow dyno. The combinations are what gets the job done. We do appreciate the effort to make a good running small block however.
Pat what made you choose the AFR 220 head verses the 210 head, or even the 195 head? Could you have gotten more torque with either of the smaller port heads? Thanks.
I wish they could tune my 350
Just use high quality regular spark plugs with indexing washers.
I'm curious why you chose the a common crank with a 3.75 inch stroke instead of a crank with either a 3.875 or a 4.00 stroke? Do those 2 require a lot more machine work or something?
What’s an ideal manual transmission to use with this engine build as well as drive shaft and differential
Bryan El mechanico M-22 12 bolt
If your building your motor and dont want to spend money to upgrade carb later when upgrading motor can your go with a bigger carb but lower the jet size?
Electric water pumps use electricity.
Electricity is produced by the alternator,wich create a load on the engine.
The interesting thing would be to measure how much load it creates because of the pump and see if there is really a benefit,of an electric pump ,in cars.
an alternator has a constant load, the load doesn't change because you used an electric pump. That's like thinking your engine will have more load on it when you turn on your radio.
There's no comparison - the parasitic losses of a mechanical water pump far exceed anything indirectly related to an electric pump via increased electrical load. And increased electrical load on the charging system does no create increased force necessary to turn the alternator. You're chasing ghosts.
@@brian_sipe
The loads differs following the amps used.
You can easily loose 200 rpm of idle if you switch on,headlights,blower fan,and defroster on a carburetted car.
You don't see load varying because the idle air valve compensate for the load on fuel injection.
Load is not constant at all.
@@michaelovitch load is the amount of engine power required to spin the alternator. That load doesn't change. I'm not talking about the amount of electricity that is used. Also your car's rpm will not change if you turn on the headlights. It will change if you turn on the defroster, since the defroster uses the air conditioning compressor to operate, and that increases the drag on the engine's accessory drive.
The alternator does not have a constant load. An alternator turning when the engine is at say two thousand rpm with no load on It will take little power to turn. Put on everything in your car head lights, rear window defoger , two hundred amp stereo, cigarettes lighter, etc and that alternator will be much much harder to turn. The benefit of the electric pump is it still takes less power than a mechanical set up. When I was a kid at the local science museum they had a bike set with a generator and a row of light bulbs. As they switched each one on in sequence it got harder and harder to the point that you just could pedal anymore. Same principle. No free rides when energy is concerned.
I'd like something in between stage 1 and 2, 400-425 HP and 450 lb-ft, any suggestions? Also, it's 14,000 lbs of FORCE, pressure is a different metric.
Actually, an electric water pump does have parasitic losses: the load is seen by the alternator. But it is a gain overall - especially at higher rpm.
Did anyone catch that they didn’t discuss the accuracy of the digital version. It was last and it seemed they were going from best to worst
Yeah I was like "haha so don't buy a digital one, got it"
How much was the stage 2 build was in total?
@powernation can you post all the parts used in this build. Getting ready to build my son a 383 for his 62 impala and were looking for 450 to 500hp and this video let's me know it will be very easy to do on pump gas. Also the 93 pump gas you used . Did it contain 10%ethanol or non ethanol
Why only show the torque increase with the 3" exhaust pipe and not the horsepower? I suspect that at 550 hp the 3" pipe did not show much horsepower change, if any. Should still show the numbers and not hide information from your audience.
I couldn’t find the gm 5.3L block on summit’s website. Anyone know how to search for it?
Cool
If you have a stage 2 build with stage 3 heads and stage 1 intake manifold do you multiply or divide it by a 3/4 race cam? I'm just trying to figure out the mathematical formula.
What is a 3/4 cam?
@@timmartin4798 very old school race cam
john preston heyyyyyy he doesn’t know it’s ok lol
Lol the mathematical formula is $ * number of sponsors parts = $$$$$
Lol at this rate I think they where missing the other 1/4 of the cam 😂 I havent heard that 3/4 cam reference in a minute that's awesome
The Formula comes to around 850,,, so you use a 950.
Chevrolet,, the biggest reason the small block was used was 5 bolts per cylinder. So the LS has four, just like the opposition!
At the end that summit block how much hp would that be good for.
I have just under 4000$ in my stroked 350-.040 over (385") all forged rotating assembly. And have over 575 hp
Sounds like it's bored not strocked . And no you don't
@@jakeclucas7926 it's definitely stroked with a 3.750 eagle crank with 13.7 to 1s JE slugs and herbert cam with .620 valve travel with a 270 duration. the heads have been doctored a bit to say the least.altho it has not been on the dyno.
The machinest that have worked on my parts and built hundreds of motors told me the quoted hp number....world product heads
What are the specifications of the camshaft
Sounds like them roller lifters are raising cane
I bet if you repace that intake with a RPM air gap you'd gain 60ftlb and only lose 15hp
I wonder what this set up would make on E85
I would use valuecraft 99¢ plugs before I used E3 LMFAO 😂
Where do I get a plug socket like that? I really could use one
I think they us a lot of Matco stuff. They have an online catalog, no dealing with a rep and tool truck.
What was the cam???
Is it ok to use head gasket copper grease before installing any head gasket?
Yes. Just be sure to taste test it first, you absolutely don't want to use rotten grease.
good
I wonder how long the solid roller would live on the street? Is it durable enough to stand the abuse of Pigeon Forge traffic in April? IDK but it would be bad ass at the cruise ins and car shows.
You guys did a video where you used the GM LS engine & gave a "suggestion list" on what parts on teh fuel injected LS would have to get removed & replaced with an intake for a carb & suggested a carb to feed the LS; I cannot find that video for the life of me. I want to cross post it to a FB group that I belong to that's dedicated to "Square Chevy" trucks.
MSD invented a computer and fuel system that makes LS swaps plug and play and not require any OEM wire harness. You could wire an inline fuel pump without too much trouble. That would be better than a carb.
“No cutting corners on spark plugs either”
*Proceeds to use E3 plugs*
Wish they did a build with a efi system and dyno tested
The result would be slightly more power through the curve with roughly the same peak power. And better drivability under more conditions and all that.
I'm not that familiar with engines but could you use that engine for a daily driven vehicle, and will it hurt you at the gas pump?
How do you get connecting rod caps off high dollar cap screw rods? You ain't gonna hammer on a nice set of 6 inch "H" beams.
How do you get the 3456 number from?
Pump gas and the most power naturally aspirated I think not . Compression on it should be like 13.1 or 14.1 then race fuel then dyno
I'm missing some information here. when you use a 383 crank, what starter motor do you use? does a 350 starter work on a 400 crank?
Any small block starter will work on pretty much any small block. Same with a big block
You can by the same pattern of flywheel/flexplate teeth for the 350 and 400 crank. The only difference is that a stock 400 crank is externally balanced and needs a flexplate/flywheel that has a weight on it for external balance. I think some aftermarket 383 rotating assemblies support internal balance so that the special flexplate/flywheel and special crankshaft pulley are not needed.
Lol
@@kingdavid1975 hahahaha 😊
The 383 is a 350 cu in with a 400 crank. Wonder what a .030 over would be
You never talk ring gap
What if u have a 383 and turn it 8k but u have boost the CFM won’t be the same right?
You will need a LOT more cfm
Question on the LS summit block. Do iron blocks have the strong long lasting piston sleeves like the aluminum blocks? Never messed with a iron block so idk.
Iron blocks don't typically use sleeves. It's all one piece.
There are some that use sleeves but most don't. You can however install sleeves on any block. Darton sells them for SBC and pretty much any popular engine. They also do custom if you need them.
ACPHOTO reason I was asking my 6.0 had 230k when I decided to rebuild it. The piston walls still had the hatch marks from the factory and the bottom end was still within spec so I just resealed everything and had the top end rebuilt and put new cam bearings in because it was a DOD engine and the original cam ate up one of the cam bearings. So long story short I was impressed by how durable the bottom end is on the LS engines.
@@kylewest100 the gen 3 and newer blocks are hardened at the cylinder walls to reduce wear. Makes it harder to bore them over as well.
Most iron block gasoline engines don't use sleeves. Sometimes, when a block is damaged or has reached its maximum overbore, sleeves can be fitted. Some agricultural use gasoline engines do have sleeves.
Large diesels are a different story. Most of them use liners.
7:41 what’s the name of that wrench? I need that!
I bet matco makes it