The Incel Killer: Elliot Rodger & His Day of Retribution |
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2024
- Elliot Rodger was born in 1991, to a upper-middle class family and although he was shy, he was a pretty normal kid.
However as this shyness and introversion began to hinder his social life, he got older he began to grow bitter and resentful towards his peers. He found it hard to fit in, he struggled to talk to the opposite sex and often felt confused as to why this happened him.
These, of course, are normal parts of growing up for many teenagers and young adults, but instead of persevering, Elliot became resentful, violent and dangerous. As Elliot became further isolated from society, his thoughts and fantasies became more extreme, helped along by a group of men he found online, who identified as "involuntarily celibate".
This is the story of how Elliot Rodger's narcissism and anger became so extreme, he went on a violent rampage in 2014 and took the life of 6 innocent people and may have influenced a string of violent incels for years to come.
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I was recently rejected for a job that I desperately wanted.
I spent several months prepping and trying to get selected for the position.
I filled with sadness and rage over the rejection and spent the last few days in awful moods.
After watching Roger’s story, I feel several times better about my life. 😂
Cause you are a looser dog.
Prepare yourself animal.
I do relate to him on some level there have also been instances where I've taken my anger out on strangers because of my own problems just like him, but I don't do it as much anymore
We all can do this to an extent. I think methodically planning a mass murder is another level tho
@@JennyClaffey I never assaulted anyone tho, just freaked them out
@@JennyClaffey I did knowingly create a great risk of sickness/death one time when I had Covid
@@JennyClaffey One time I tricked my teacher into thinking I gave her Covid cuz she failed me for in an assignment too late
Jenny was wearing almost exactly the same dress Courtney Ryan was wearing on her channel lol!
Really good analysis there. Feel like I can relate to a lot of Rodger's frustrations in not fitting in, not being part of parties and I didn't have a girlfriend myself until 32, but it did not manifest in many of the same ways that it did with Rodger in terms of wanting to take revenge etc, did walk out of college classes and such. His case will always be one of the most interesting because to me its about social exclusion. he also to me does not seem much many other serial killers, it was an explosion of frustration, I wonder if some positive interventions had happened and he'd found a good niche for himself if it all would have turned out differently, ie no day of retribution. Then again it has ended this way with some other very socially and non romantically frustrated people such as George Sodini who was deeply frustrated that he was lonely and couldn't attract a female partner despite dating efforts, he was a white collar man who ended up going postal, possibly the actual first example of inceldom being the motive for serial killings. Subjecting somebody to bullying in high school could also be part of the reason why it ends up with someone going postal.
looooove, this format+content combined is so lacking from RUclips ❤️🔥
Glad you enjoy it and thank you so much!! Lots more to come 🥰🫶🏼
Loved this, thanks Jenny 💕
Thank youuuu ❤️❤️
Unreal content as always Jenny and stunning format!! cant wait for more
Thanks so much ❤️❤️❤️
✨ Quality ✨ amazing Jenny! ❤️
Yayyy thank you angel ❤️❤️
Great video, I love it🥰❤️
this case I watched live, But it is quite common to happen mass murder or massacre in the US.
you couldnt even look into the camera nor keep a straight face when u said "he was a conventionally attractive guy" lmao
well i cant keep a straight face either when i say ridiculous things as well
He was, there was absolutely nothing wrong with how he looked, but even if he were unconventional looking, so what? Many people have to go through much more serious adversity than that. I’m not sure what your issue is but pop off
@@JennyClaffeyYou're biased; you're stating literally "he just was". Pls, make a facial analysis and smv analysis on him. His case is partially product of acute hypergamy, due to globalization, and female narcisism that goes unchecked everyday. At least I have considerably solid sources to make such assertation.
@@JennyClaffeyHe wasnt attractive/good looking in the eyes of the opposite; I have logical and tecnical basis to assert it.
@@breakingzilian5371facts idk why there’s so many people lying blatantly about him being attractive he definitely isn’t
Damn, Elliot Rodger missed these very important lessons in life:
1. you do not have to be a cool person to get people being into you, you have to be a good person.
2. Don't chase for anything superficial such as sex, money, fame, power to make yourself happy, chase something that will make you geniunely happy for a long time.
3. Make your dreams a reality through focus, commitment, hard work, and sheer will. Nothing comes easy wallowing in despair.
@Duke of Lancaster excuse the dark sentence here, but what can we do when he's dead? Turn back time and tell him this? For the record, I will say those words for it to serve as a lesson for life.
1. Nobody gives a shit if your a good person
2. Only men have to pursue sex money and power, women just get with guys that have money and power, and of course screw who ever they fancy.
3. That point I can agree with. But it's not as simple as you make it.
@@raisou9750 #1. That is a blatant lie. Who taught you that lesson?
If you are a gorgeous man or woman based on American standards there will be many into you without you even talking. You could be a really bad person and that is not going to change that until you show that side.
If you are a good person but are considered really unattractive and you are awful at talking to people you are attracted to you are going to struggle.
#2. Temporary pleasures could have prevented him from doing what he did. Out of 100% of humans who have snapped in human history some of them never took pleasure drugs or had sex and even some who did, did not have that right before they snapped.
Even getting a back massage really helps some people to relax.
With that being said he comes off like he needs therapy and medication more than sex.
Having something that makes you happy for a long time is a great goal to have but if chasing and getting some superficial goal had given him enough temporary happiness to not do what he did would you still say that lesson?
#3. What he did at the end took focus, commitment, hard work, and sheer will in the sense he planned it.
A lazy person would have been too lazy to do that.
"Nothing comes easy wallowing in despair."
Telling someone not to feel sorry for themselves is not going to be enough for someone like him.
He needed someone to teach him how to approach and talk to women. If he did not feel sorry for himself it would not have changed that. The same as him needing therapy and medication.
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Your heart seems to be in the right place but your lessons would not have helped him.
@@raisou9750you have to be a good person for that person to be into you no you don't your talking about something you don't know tf
@@yagovmolotov5127you said nobody would care if you not a good person how do you know for sure people won't care if that person is a not a good person
Fantastic video Jenny! Can’t wait for the rest of the series ❤️
Thanks so much Alex! You’re gonna love it ❤️
So well put together . I love podcasts but when there’s so much visual evidence this format shines. Well done Jenny. 🎉
Thanks so much darling - I’m the same! Love pods but also love having the option of visual elements ❤️
From the thumbnail I thought it was Courtney Ryan going into a completely new direction with her RUclips channel.
He was attractive and rich, but he ultimately failed to realize that you have to put the work in to have a relationship.
You can not buy or force true companionship, romantic or otherwise.
What Elliot wanted after a while was power and control.
My new Monday morning fix, great episode!
Thank you ❤️🔥❤️🔥
Omg love this!!! Keep up the good work and can't wait for the next ep ❤️🔥
I'm glad you liked it! Lots more to come :)
I like the two tone shirt better than Elliots that he wore to the grammys 😂
11/10 as always 🔥😍
Thank you 🥹❤️
You obviously haven’t been to Southern California. Roger would not be considered attractive especially to his desired demographic of tall blondes who aren’t generally attracted to short Asian men.
Amazing podcast but also heartbreaking.
He focused so much on girls he couldn’t have, who knows who was looking at him, while he was staring with hate at someone else. He’s not a pitiful lonely soul. He was selfish and mean.
This is amazing. You are gonna have a prime time show in no time.
🥹 thank you Oscar!
Love this format!!!!!!
Thank you!
So excited for this series Jenny!
Yay that makes me so happy!
So good Jenny was hooked from first 20 seconds
Ahhh tysm so glad you enjoyed ❤️
I heard of Elliot Rodger in 2014 when the news was talking about him after he killed people. I was 28 years old that year.
Another copycat you forgot to mention was the Parkland Shooter who wrote online "Elliot Rodger will not be forgotten"
True, I forgot about him actually. Scary
@@JennyClaffey We're used to it in America
great content, as always 😊
Thank you 💘
The media labeled him an MRA first he was a failed PUA.
Yeah there’s a direct correlation between PUAs and Incels, in fact the old r/Incel was founded by other failed PUAs
Such a good video, can't wait for more!! 🥳🥳
Can’t wait for the next one!
I don't think actually having a girlfriend would've made Elliot happy.
Loved this, can’t wait for the rest!
Yay! Thank you 💘
He needed some deep help and someone to steer him in the right direction.
Definitely. It’s really sad how many of these cases begin with someone who needed support and guidance.
Jenny Claffey is kind of cute. I wonder if she's part-Irish.
When I was in high school, there were only five or six girls that all the guys were chasing. Then there were only five or six guys that girls would even date.
Seriously?😊
Keep up the good work 👏
Brill Jenny ✨ gonna love this series ❤️🔥
thank youuuu ❤️
Amazing! Loved it ❣
Thank you ❤️❤️❤️
Amazing! Loved it
Thank you!!❤️
Elliot Rodger was such a freaking weirdo. The guy never even talked to any women so why would he think women would be interested in him? Ot makes no sense, like bro your not Brad Pitt or someone like that.
So good! It's mad cos he's not ugly, he could have got girls if he acted normal 🙃
I know! I think so much of it is just growing up too - it’s so easy to think life is at its peak when you’re 18/19/20, but so much changes as your grow older.
If he acted normal... He would still be introverted. And that would cut his chances. And girls don't want to think 🤔 of as being ... Got, today.
Unfortunately within the lines the ( 80/20 ) rule may have gotten to him.......
It’s hard to bash a guy when you don’t know what it’s
like to be shunned and dehumanized by females your whole life.
Not fucking for your “whole life” (he was young, in his early 20s so whole life is a stretch, he had a lot of life to live) is not an excuse to brutally murder people. He was the only one to dehumanise people, by killing them.
@@JennyClaffey What a terrible way to look at this, blaming him over the ones that pushed him to the edge with shunning.
@@hens13 'Shunning' is not excuse to violently murder people, you seem to have worms for brains
U r looking so beautiful 😍 I think Elliot never seen u if does then he would definitely tried to impress u❤️
This made me cry.
"At all the critical points in [Elliot's] life, which he outlined in his manifesto, he got his way by crying to his mother, it was the only consistent method by which he dealt with the world. The ultimate spoiled little prince. His mother would gladly fly around the world to save her son from the “excruciating torture” of having to be bored in a foreign country. She transferred him from one school to the next when he endured the “insufferable terror” of hearing a recording of two of his classmates having sex, or being pushed into his locker. At no point was he made to deal with his circumstances, and at every point, he was made to feel weak and helpless, and that the only recourse was to throw a temper tantrum. This sad, pathetic state being precipitated by his parents and their belief that lavishing their son with expensive toys, and snapping to attention every time there were tears in his eyes was acceptable parenting stunted his existence to the point that as an adult―a psychotic, delusional, mentally-imbalanced adult―he had not progressed past the first few years of life, in terms of his coping mechanisms. He threw a fit and got what he wanted all throughout his life, and then, when he finally began to reach adulthood, he began to realize that the rest of the world didn't feel inclined to accommodate his temper tantrums. What else could lead a fully-grown adult to believe that trying to push women over a balcony didn't constitute responsibility as the aggressor in that situation?"
―JordanOwen42
23:47 actually I disagree with you. The internet is flooded with that sort of content. RUclips is littered with a plethora of red and black pill content.
It takes a lot of willpower for a man not to get sucked into it.
This women has no idea what she is taking about and finds this problem in society as funny.
I have a name 😘
@JennyClaffey Yeah f##k you,Your really dumb you know that.
I thoroughly enjoyed the video format. The amount of incels in the comments though… wow.
Hahahaha I know. Speaking about ER tends to attract them
Elliot Rodgers not wrong I've been rejected 138 women complain that was about money I was looking with my family it was the car as soon as I focus on myself and fixed all of that I still have the same problem women just like jerks women like men that will treat them like trash I can never seem to understand that
You need to understand how to use punctuation.
Idk why/how you already know these men ll treat them like crap (i m talking about the relatively healthy developed personalities bcs in other cases ppl may have identified love w pain or indifference etc).. So the nowdays western NT have adopted the elites values & that s why it s called "narcis sistic society" years now = ppl live far from themselves, valuing appearences (women status/$ as main things to look for at a partner, men beauty/se x so it isn t a woman s thing or something that caracterises romantic relationships only but all relatuonships = ppl avoid intimacy, invest time/energy to know the other..), the masses live also w egocentricity, unempathetically in short like disordered ppl do. A sick society. "Century of the self", Fromm s "The sane society", many ppl describe the situation, Vaknin is great to me e.g "Narcissist s extrinsic values.." on yt =a 30min video on how ppl are manipulated & live like that. Incels are just the consequence of the change in ppl s way of being (& ofc mental illnesses have multiplied. These ppl live w egocentricity etc bcs of their mental condition. The video ll help to see the connection of egocentricity w extrinsic values. For NT they forgot or never found them selves & their unconscious was hijacked by propaganda etc & they also live w extrinsic values.
Maybe take responsibility for the type of women you’re dating.
Plz be kidding...
If you get rejected it's your fault.
Loved this Jenny. Such a crazy/sad story.
Thanks Asley! I know, it's so sad on so many levels.
@@JennyClaffey The only sad part is he didn't gain enough EXP
@@bobkane432 Can't believe he got cucked by a door
I'm a virgin at 28. I hope I'm not hopeless like him.
Of course you’re not. Sex is a small fraction of an entire life and something everyone experiences at different points in their life - nobody is defined by it.
And that's perfectly okay. Virginity is special cause your body is special, don't give it up or away to just anyone.
@@catharsismemory wonderfully said.
I'll avoid prostitution.
If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. That's all that can be said with certainty.
@@Primordial_Synapse okay
Shouldn’t it be “The Killer Incel” instead of “The Incel Killer”? The latter implying he kills other Incels like himself…
he could of had a girlfriend and friends but he was obsessed with a particular group of people he wanted to be with the "cool" kids he didnt have any mental problems he was just evil
A sad story indeed !
also why does no one ever bring up that his roommate stole from him?
yup one of his roommates stole some candles from elliot and elliot did a citizens arrest
the cops came and did a search and found the candles in his roommates bed underneath the sheets
elliot was just surrounded by absolute trash people and on top of that all the problems he was dealing with
yeah recipe for disaster
idk just sad really all around
I don’t think someone stealing candles should result in a mass murder
At 28 years old, I'm a cashier, 2nd semester intern, and a college student at two colleges at once.
However, I'm poor/socially isolated.
I don't have a car/license either.
I'm working hard applying to scholarships to finish college.
9-5 jobs and college are stupid, just tell the government to take care of you and give you everything, don't contribute to a society that offers you nothing in return
@@bobkane432 what?
@@scifirealism5943 Not sure how to answer that
@Bob Kane thank you for your advice
Beautiful 😊❤
This is what happens when you don't have sex on a regular basis you become like Elliot Rodger
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WHAT IS AN INCEL? I keep seeing and hearing these videos, but never have it explained to me. What is it? Is it just men that don’t quote “get women?” Is it a person that can’t get women but there’s also signs of becoming one when you’re little? Is there a science to the behaviour? This is talked about AAAAALLL the time so someone has to know?
I literally go through the definition in the first few minutes of the video
@@JennyClaffey Could you give another one, just a short one? Like, are they like serial killers? Are there signs to someone becoming this "incel?" Is there more to the incel thing, or is it just "they can't get girlfriends therefore they shoot people?"
@@circustoonsjokevideos "INCEL" stands for Involuntary Celibate. Essentially, they did not conscientiously choose to be celibate but are fated to be celibate. Only a very few (less than 1%) become spree killers (Elliot Rodger was a spree killer, not serial killer) or serial killers. Pattern I have noticed with Incels is they are awkward in social settings, have difficulty making friends within their own gender (male-male), usually involved in solitary hobbies vs. team sports. Basically, they have difficulty with any kind of relationship; some incels are on Autism Spectrum but not all.
ER might've wanted Jenny Claffey as a gf
No other woman behaves like the whyte woman does in the world. It's not a compliment.
No-one has been able to debunk E.R.either.
Exactly, how can you debunk a self-report lol
@stephenkizlik8465 people can only insult in response but his observations of women were accurate.
@stephenkizlik8465 insults used on the internet aside and you have just done what my prior comment noted. There is no debunk on his views why do you think so many men could understand them.
when ur a kid you dont have to really worry about things like being attractive or how many girls liked you no one has unfair advantages then when u hit puberty your life either becomes heaven on earth or a living hell it all depends on how many girls like you or if girls like you at all - elliot rodger
this quote he made cant be debunked or argued with
its simply the truth
@@beganitdidnt6535 Yes it can. Nobody's life is made 'heaven on earth' just because puberty is slightly easier on them than their friend who for example, gets acne. There are a myriad of human experiences that actually make someone's life miserable; poverty, abuse, depression, broken familial relationships...I could go on. Sure not connecting romantically with those you're attracted to can feel isolating but to see this as a life altering experience is incredibly myopic.
Life goes on and on and on after puberty, your frontal lobe develops, you learn who you really are. I know you incels seems to think your experience is incredibly individual but every single person feels like the odd one out when they are young.
Statistics even show that the majority of incels age out of inceldom, those who remain in this state typically become alcoholics, addicts or just end up neck deep in an echo-chamber of people who want the worst for them.
Stop giving women and sex such power over your life and happiness, it's a waste of energy.
The idea you're describing in the beginning is black pilled. Incel is a circumstance where most men find themselves between relationships. You have to ask yourself if the average man on the street can get no-strings-attached sex on a whim? Imagine the average guy on the street walking with confidence and telling you about his exploits. You would most likely find it a comedy sketch because you can usually tell a person's love life by their looks. So unless a man is in a relationship he is usually an incel.
It looks like you're tarnishing some arguments or research with the 'incel' tag, which is good enough for a lot of people today who rely on second hand sources to form their opinions.
You must have selective hearing because I quite literally stated that there is much more about incels than I can cover in a 30 minute video.
You point about no string sex is a paradox; men aren’t entitled to no strings attached sex, but the reason most men can’t get it is because generally speaking, women don’t want it. If we do, it’s gonna be with someone we know and trust, not some mouth breather who has 4chan bookmarked
@@JennyClaffey Regarding your first paragraph I see no contradiction. Just because there is more about incels does not mean you did not use words the way you did.
"If we do, it’s gonna be with someone we know and trust"
Obviously. And in this day and age women are not having less sex than before but men are which also goes back to the earlier point about most men being incels between relationships while the hottest men are being known and trusted (and are thrusting). I don't know what's wrong with bookmarking 4chan but apparently you know more about that than I do.
Thrusting 🤣🤣🤣 stop calling it that for a start
Good-looking men aren't having more sex. It could add up like what happened to Elliott. They are maybe introverted. They can be more misread, misjudged. Elliot thought that the women had something against him, said so in his car. You see his look, they don't know if he is gay or straight. Y'all know he could pass for like many different races, Greek, Italian Chinese Indian Spanish and more so fourth! He has an elusive thing going on, that no one can really pinpoint. And he knew he had these qualities. Maybe a little narcissistic to. He couldn't be like Tom Cruise who was an extrovert... Women don't really care about looks anymore. You look good, they expect you to throw on a dress 👗.
Why are below average looking women obessessed with him?
No clue you’d have to ask them. Why are incels frantically search his name to defend him on any video that mentions him?
@@JennyClaffey he is a special person for me. The fact that most incel like me or even normies would have lived their life happily coping on something if given to live his life, but he went against the system created by u all females.
There are already better well researched video on saint ER. This video wasn't necessary. You just wanted some attention via using a legend name. You will never be a successful youtuber. You will never find attactive partner. I suggest u to work on being more feminine and creating feminine content(if your partner gives u permission). Emilfs like u can't get views. The only way u get views is via having a daughter. Make her a youtuber at her most peak fertile stage and u do all behind the scene work if u really want to be successful. But I don't recommend.
Sorry for my bad english.
To make money out of incels when most of us don't hate women all we ever wanted was to be with one.
It's cause we are the new rock stars. The replacement from last decades big bang theory nerds. It's painful for women cause they are tribal and need to be attached to fads - which is the incel rebellion right now. Imagine being attracted to something but repelled at the same time.
@@theragoooverlord5021 teehee if only he was a good person so sad omg! 😱
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You is a beautifullll woman... :)