Narrowband Normalization using Pixnsight Pixelmath

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • **Update** The version used in this video was Version3. Version4 is now available for download as I had to make a modification to the HOO process.
    Narrowband Normalization is a pixelmath process I came up with to help you equalize your narrowband data with a simple drag and drop operation for both SHO and HOO images. I feel the best results do come from non-linear data as I illustrated in this video but feel free to test this on your end. For the HOO math, I am using a method that Luke Newbould came up with that he uses for his OSC image processing to help make your OIII signal pop thus making your image look like a “Hubble Pallet” style image. Thanks Luke, for testing this math and giving it your approval! Below are the download links to all the pixelmaths I used in this video. I also want to put another special thanks out there to James Lamb for coming up with the Modified SCNR math and allowing me to put out my version of it out there for you all to use. I welcome your comments so please don’t hold back. Thanks!!!
    Lukomatic RUclips Channel: / lukomatico
    Luke’s OSC processing video:
    • How To Get Hubble Styl...
    James Lamb RUclips Channel: / aero19612
    James Lamb Modified SCNR video:
    • Reducing Green in Hubb...
    My maths used in this video.....
    Narrowband Normalization PixelMath:
    drive.google.c...
    Stretching PixelMath:
    drive.google.c...
    Star Reduction PixelMath:
    drive.google.c...
    RGB Stars to Narrowband Transfer PixelMath:
    drive.google.c...
    Modified SCNR PixelMath link:
    drive.google.c...
    Color Masks PixelMath:
    drive.google.c...

Комментарии • 239

  • @lukomatico
    @lukomatico Год назад +36

    So proud of you for creating this bro, it's absolutely going to change the game I think!! I can't express it enough but this is just amazing work, the astro community owes you a debt man.
    Thank you for the shout-outs by the way - so happy to have helped! :-D

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад +2

      Thank you very much Luke for those kind words. Your HOO processing technique within this math should help a lot of people with their OSC processing. I now regret selling my 6200mc camera now that we have an automated way to pull out so much detail through the normalization process. Im now considering getting a 2400mc and run it on my tak150b 🤑 Dang this hobby, lol

    • @peterschmitz4308
      @peterschmitz4308 Год назад +4

      @@anotherastrochannel2173 Bill, you're a hero with these tools that you have provided!

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад +2

      @@peterschmitz4308 Thanks!!!

  • @ganymede235
    @ganymede235 Год назад +1

    Is version version 5, "Bills_NB_NormalizationV5.xpsm" on the GoogleDrive the latest version? If we use that one, we do or do not need versions 3 and 4? Thanks...

  • @haiderbhogadia4829
    @haiderbhogadia4829 Год назад +1

    Hi Bill, I am very new to PI and your PM tools look amaging. However how do i install this on to my PM process ? the scripts represent different functions i i am struggling with which one to copy and paste onto the symbols? Help!

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      If you have OSC data, use the HOO script, if you have mono data and put together an SHO image, use the SHO script, If you have mono data and put together an HOO image, use the HOO script, etc.

  • @JoesAstrophoto
    @JoesAstrophoto Год назад +4

    This is amazing Bill! When you told me I’d like what you were working on next I had no idea it would be this cool! This is really going to speed up my workflow and most likely improve the final result of my images. Huge thanks my friend! I’m excited to try it out.

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      Thanks Joe!!! Thats awesome of you to say that. I have more stuff to post soon so keep an eye out!!

  • @marklewis9265
    @marklewis9265 Год назад +3

    buy this man beer....no seriously, buy him beer! really appreciated this video and the information, including the time you've taken to help explain the maths and outcomes - cheers!

  • @milkyastrophile
    @milkyastrophile 29 дней назад

    hi I am getting an error while executing this how to solve this? please help
    Reading swap files...
    1864.371 MiB/s

  • @Thomas-mn5ih
    @Thomas-mn5ih Год назад +1

    Hi Bill, thanks for your pixelmath set and your explanation. When watching it, I'm asking myself spontaneously:" Is it not the same as doing a linear fit on the the three channels before the SHO combination which I normaly do?" So I tried your pixelmath set on my linear data set with a linear fit but there is just a little difference between it. So is not just a different way to do a linear fit? Or is just my data set? What do you think? BR Thomas

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад +1

      Thomas, good question!! So, I dont know the "math" behind linear fit but in the linear state, even with my tests the results should be close as we both do a linear style pixel value change. This is why I use my technque in the non-linear state so the average deviation of all pixels is more exaggerated than that being linear. If you try linear fit on none linear data it doesnt look as good as my math, well atleast from my tests. Regardless, my operation is a drag and drop operation, linear fit is not. So, if you wanted to use my math as a "linear fit" on linear data, it is still faster than running linear fit in PI. I hope this clarifies things but you should be able to test the differences on your end 😀

  • @MrStrativarius
    @MrStrativarius 3 месяца назад

    Hey Bill. Thank you so much for creating this. It's pretty incredible. I'm just getting started on learning Pixinsight. If you have time, I have a question for you. All my pics so far are taken with a OSC camera (ASI 533MC pro) and a dual narrowband filter (Svbony 220 7nm). When I open my images in Pixinsight and throw your HOO plug in on them, they look better, but all i get is kind of ambers and gold colors, no blues, or even greens. What am i missing? Do I just need to do something different in post? Or am I not getting the right data initially? Thank you for any thoughts and thanks again for this great plug-in. Aaron.

  • @ClearAmbientSkies
    @ClearAmbientSkies Год назад +3

    I think it's time to sell all my narrowband filters. 🤣
    Thank you Bill. This is another gift to the astro community.

  • @michaeljarvis4612
    @michaeljarvis4612 Месяц назад

    Essential process and super helpful video. Many Thanks, Bill.

  • @Astro_Chroma
    @Astro_Chroma 8 месяцев назад +1

    Best the tutorial i have watched to date! Between you and Lukomatico, I can't thank y'all enough!

  • @flyingdockp
    @flyingdockp Год назад +3

    I really love this mathematical approach!!! It makes the result so much more reproducible then other methods! Really great lukomatico and you created this!

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      Klaas, Thanks for the nice comments! Luke has a very nice HOO technique and it was awesome to be able to automate it some with a drag and drop method.

  • @heno52
    @heno52 Год назад

    Bill, this looks so great. But I have still to process my first SHO image, I.e. total newbie. I can't find any video utilizing these scripts so my question is then: Where in a "normal" NB process would this fit in? After/before?

  • @ricardoabh3242
    @ricardoabh3242 2 месяца назад

    I have a Nikon Zf, and always like to take images in RAW or now HLG and potentially pixel shit to push the data and depth.
    How those data best used in this tool, since I think it can’t work with raw?

  • @bluespeck-qc2zv
    @bluespeck-qc2zv Год назад

    Thanks for the valuable information and tools. This is probably a really dumb newbie question but how do I add them to Pixinsight? Thanks.

  • @ricardoabh3242
    @ricardoabh3242 2 месяца назад

    Fantastic… I am just starting…like buying the stuff
    This was one of my concerns

  • @olly7248
    @olly7248 Год назад +2

    Hi Bill… I just got my first ever ‘Top Pick’ on Astrobin using this process… it’s a stunning piece of PixelMath… thanks to Yourself especially and Luco for making that possible… well happy Astrophotographer here 😀

  • @stevewillis6690
    @stevewillis6690 Год назад +1

    Thank you Bill, I'd just like to echo everyone else's comments t in thanking you for producing, and making available, these tools. However as a newcomer to pixinsight I'd also like to thank you for the explanation of how/what the scripts are accomplishing.

  • @mgutierrezp
    @mgutierrezp Год назад +1

    fantastic job, thanks a lot. Please let me do the following question. How does this normalization differ from linearfit? I thought linear fit what precisely does is equalize brightness levels. I've been doing some tests and the results are not the same. Obviously they differ in some extent, but don't know what exactly

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад +1

      Miguel, thanks for the response!!! Another viewer had a simular question so I copied my response:
      "So, I dont know the "math" behind linear fit but in the linear state, even with my tests the results should be close as we both do a linear style pixel value change. This is why I use my technque in the non-linear state so the average deviation of all pixels is more exaggerated than that being linear. If you try linear fit on none linear data it doesnt look as good as my math, well atleast from my tests. Regardless, my operation is a drag and drop operation, linear fit is not. So, if you wanted to use my math as a "linear fit" on linear data, it is still faster than running linear fit in PI. I hope this clarifies things but you should be able to test the differences on your end 😀"

    • @mgutierrezp
      @mgutierrezp Год назад

      @@anotherastrochannel2173 great, thanks for the reply. Makes sense

  • @Thommy78
    @Thommy78 Год назад +1

    Awesome, very good work, thx

  • @TheRuminator
    @TheRuminator Год назад +1

    i would definitely pay for these

  • @GalaxyArtMedia
    @GalaxyArtMedia Год назад

    Thank you for the video and scripts ! Amazing results !

  • @Dorkyand40
    @Dorkyand40 Год назад

    Just amazing bill! I would love a foraxx version someday :) do you have a Patreon or a way to donate for the work ?

  • @pcboreland1
    @pcboreland1 Год назад +2

    I greatly appreciate the work you are doing. I'm a pixelmath convert, having done my own stuff, but you are taking things to the next level. You must be working on this, but what about inserting Ha and Oiii data in RGB images like galaxies?

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад +2

      I have been working on some math for that for Ha intergration, should be soon so please stay tuned 🙂

  • @hael8680
    @hael8680 7 месяцев назад

    Newbie to PI here. I understood the theory and the application at the beginning. You lost me towards the end when you pulled all those extra scripts from nowhere.

  • @greyraven1245
    @greyraven1245 Год назад +1

    WOW, Thats awesome. Thank you

  • @avinashajupiterastronomycl2868

    It's not working for me, i am using Asi533mc camera, This HOO & SHO Normalization not working, showing failed, when i drag. Anyone help me.?

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      What do you mean when you drag??? Use the actual script now please so you can see in real time.

  • @MrSpike2450
    @MrSpike2450 Год назад +1

    Brilliant dude,thanks for making this video, you are a legend.🎉

  • @markmayer9290
    @markmayer9290 Год назад +2

    I'm about a year into using PI and finding your PI code examples is like winning the lottery. Big thank you.

  • @MrBebopbob
    @MrBebopbob 2 месяца назад

    Wow! Just wow! Thanks for sharing these great methods.

  • @teslar1
    @teslar1 Год назад +2

    OSC Processing for HOO starts 17:34

  • @AstroGuina
    @AstroGuina Год назад +2

    Hi Bill. How are you?
    Your scripts are absolutely phenomenal!
    Here in Brazil I participate in a small group of astrophotographers and, since Luke started publishing videos using his scripts, we were absolutely fascinated by the results. Know that you've been helping us a lot, as most captures using OSC, so being able to transform them into SHO and HOO with quality is fantastic.

  • @MichaelBlinstonJones
    @MichaelBlinstonJones Год назад

    I'm new to processing and would love to be able to use your pixelmath methods to produce more Hubble-ish images from my OSC dual narrowband data. How do I access them and plug them into PI? I've tried adding your drive.google.com/drive/folder...to repositories and restarted PI but I can't find your pixelmath scripts anywhere. What am I doing wrong? Help!!
    Michael

  • @thewarhenk
    @thewarhenk Год назад +1

    Bill B, we very much admired your star reduction 'scripts' and profiled them at Masters of PixInsight. I like your normalization idea here, particularly for SHO. I also have an absurdly simple way of doing this. An unlinked STF will optimize the 3 channels to each other very well. Transferring an unlinked stretch from the STF to HT yields an excellent starting point on color- easy and fast. That said, I'm seeing some things in your SHO expression that's somewhat better than my technique- more blue and yellow/red. Congrats!

  • @heizenbergone
    @heizenbergone Год назад +1

    this is great! thank you very very much🙂👍

  • @rvoykin
    @rvoykin Год назад

    I have downloaded the icons and try to open them with pics and say how do I actually use them?

  • @The-explorer
    @The-explorer Год назад

    Thanks so much for the magic. I have this error when try to use the HOONormalization"*** Error: Invalid character in expression:
    /* Normalize HOO data with Pixelmath - V4
    by Bill Blanshan -- Concept by Luke Newbould

    See "Symbols" tab for blending modifications
    Drag the bottom left arrow over to your HOO image
    Notes:
    1) On symbols page, turn OFF OIII Scurve=0, On=1
    2) Works best on a non-linear image; however, because this method
    is a linear style stretch, stars in the image will most likely be
    blown out. It is best to remove the stars first. The preferred
    method to adding the stars back is using my RGB to Narrowband
    pixel math so that star color is preserved.
    Hope you enjoy!!!
    "

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад +1

      You may have accidentally deleted a backslash or semicolon. Just download the math script again and dont delete any characters, you can only modify names but please make sure that you do not remove any backslashes or semicolons. Also, please make sure you're running the latest version of Pixinsight

  • @enriqueboeneker
    @enriqueboeneker Год назад +1

    Bill, thanks for sharing, and especially, thanks for your hardwork! I believe the next step to of all of this that you have done is make a script (or maybe I am mistaken). Thanks again!

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад +1

      Enrique, that would be awesome to have done, espcially if we could combine the other math routines I have and will be releasing shortly. If I can find a good programmer to help me with this, this could be a future option for sure.

  • @bonzer2u
    @bonzer2u Год назад +1

    Outstanding stuff, U.B.D.Man....

  • @Manishprajapati-wc2kq
    @Manishprajapati-wc2kq Год назад

    i really apreciate your help with dowloanding this software

  • @kenhansard3734
    @kenhansard3734 Год назад +1

    Thankyou bill and Luke for this. So very very grateful. Please keep sharing!

  • @garybarr7116
    @garybarr7116 Год назад +1

    Thanks Bill. I really appreciate that you give these pixel math scripts to all of us to use. I have a question. Sorry if I missed it in your presentation. I see how to add stars back in when dealing with OSC. For narrow band, I removed the stars from Ha and O using StarXterminator. So, I have Ha stars and Oii stars. How do you recommend I add them back to the combined RGB image?
    Should I do HOO combination the starX stars only and then combine with pixel math?

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      Gary, Yes, I would do an HOO combination just so you can preserve the orignal stars and colors. I know this is still narrowband colored stars but it will still look the best having the original stars. So once you have the HOO data combined, stretch the data, then clone the data so you can produce an RGB starless image using Starnet2 or Star Exterminator. Once you have this starless image, clone that starless image to create the NB starless image and that will be the image you will run normalization on. Next, now that you have all three files, you can use my RGB-to-Narrowband star transfer math to create the new image with your original stars onto your new normalized starless image. I showed this process towrds the end of my video with a full workflow from linear to non linear. This method will produce the best image using these techniques. I hope this makes sense!

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      **Update** I had to make a change to the HOO math so Version4 is now in the download link.

  • @janelubenskyi1177
    @janelubenskyi1177 Год назад +1

    You will transform how we post process in technique and rapidity….thank you Bill.

  • @rodbell4222
    @rodbell4222 Год назад

    Bill, I'm getting an error message when i ran your formula. "*** Error: Expected lvalue (variable) operand:
    k= adev($T[0])/adev($T[1]);
    ^ " Wondering if you could help me with this? No one else seems to know. Thanks!

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      Did you load the scripts from the description and install and use like in Luke and Shawn's videos? Just follow what they do and make sure you are running the latest updates from Pixinsight.
      ruclips.net/video/5IkmqbilqI0/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/KzxQXu_9pjU/видео.html

  • @Si-fp2ij
    @Si-fp2ij Год назад +1

    Thanks so much Bill for sharing this and to the other contributors. I was able to use the HOO process on the RGB data I had for the Carina Nebula and the colours look fantastic!!
    Cheers
    Si

  • @skbsurf86
    @skbsurf86 Год назад +1

    I just used all of your pixel math functions, and I felt I had to comment about how fantastic they are. Easy to use, clear, and most important of all they yield excellent results. Best processing I have ever done. Thank you so much!

  • @christianandres6554
    @christianandres6554 Год назад +1

    Brilliant! Can‘t wait to try this out with my LeNhance data. Thank you so much for providing your methods and tools to the community! Proper job 👍

  • @astrotimetraveller4622
    @astrotimetraveller4622 Год назад +1

    Wow amazing, Thanks so much Bill. I will go back and re-do many of my previous OSC shots in the coming days. You’re going to make a lot of people wonder whether moving to Mono is worth it! I am planning to next year, but it’s very expensive and time consuming and these techniques give some great images from OSC, but I like a challenge! What you are achieving is the biggest step change I’ve seen in the processing side of this hobby since I started nearly three years ago. Many many thanks, clear skies Ian

  • @SimjetAU
    @SimjetAU Год назад +1

    Mate you are a friggin genius...you are transforming this hobby

  • @diegoalca
    @diegoalca Год назад

    IDK why but when i open up this process nothing happens, doesnt show up on my screen the icons

  • @jesusbilbao
    @jesusbilbao Год назад

    Your results are impressive. Unfortunately I must be doing something wrong. Starting with the downloaded Normalization I get an Error stating "Illegal directive specification inside expression: Bills_NB_NormalizationV4.xpsm". Also, the Symbols tab is empty. I must be missing something but cant figure out what. Thanks

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      Are you running the latest version of Pixinsight? Try downloading again and drag the process over to your Pixinsight workspace. It should work

  • @garyanderson6192
    @garyanderson6192 Год назад +1

    Hey Bill, this is absolutely amazing. It won't be long before osc and narrowband filters are performing as well as mono for backyard amature astro imagers... Thanks for your effort in productiong these pixel math processes...

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      Hey Gary, thanks for the comment! I think I spend more time "testing" all of these process and techniques verses actually producing images myself. Im in the middle of testing the true differeneces between OSC and mono, not sure if I will make a video on it but for myself I want to know. OSC is less hassle and less expensive gear wise, but man the difference mono has by having more dedicated pixels is night and day. Might make for a good future video 😀

  • @juangonzalezsanz3840
    @juangonzalezsanz3840 Год назад

    I am very impressed how you managed to do such great job in a so automated way. Thanks a lot. I get and error when importing some of the tools into PI. In particular with NB normalization and Stretching tools I get "Parsing XML document (line=197 offset=0): Stray character #x2e outside markup." Do you know what might me going on? Cheers

    • @juangonzalezsanz3840
      @juangonzalezsanz3840 Год назад

      OK. I have just discovered that it was because no image was loaded into PI. Once there is an image opened the process can be imported without problems. Thanks again

  • @clearskiesastro1028
    @clearskiesastro1028 Год назад +1

    Used the new tools last night, simply amazing! Thanks so much for making something like this...post processing is so difficult to get it right, these helped tremendously!

  • @gclaytony
    @gclaytony Год назад

    These are great tools, but the assumption concerning the Blue Channel being primarily noise isn't true of all targets when shooting monochrome/narrowband and I suspect it isn't necessarily true of all OSC NB. From the monochrome NB perspective, in M42 Oiii is very strong and displays detail in the Running Man that is not in Ha or Sii. That Oiii detail is critical to capturing the full detail in that target. The loss of that data with your scripts was very apparent. The M42 Orion Nebula may be unique in that for NB imaging it offers great data in all three of the traditional NB band widths (Ha, Sii, Oiii).
    I do agree that it is appropriate in The Pelican Nebula processing and probably most other targets in Sadr nebula cloud - there is very little if any Oiii band present. Without checking my archived data for SH2-308 OSC NB data I can say for certain but by memory I believe that data was overwhelmingly in the Blue/Oiii band with the L-Extreme filter that I used and even with the L-Pro.
    Great tools, but I think users should not use them as a one size fits all item. Anyone using these tools (for all tools really) needs to assess their data and tailor their application of PI tools accordingly.
    IMO - YMMV

    • @billblanshan3021
      @billblanshan3021 Год назад

      There is no such thing as a one size fits all tool, especially when you're trying to process M42 which is also a reflection nebula. This tool was designed to help normalize OIII and /or SII in emission nebula to that of the Ha signal to help create a balanced SHO like image. If you are trying to normalize HA to that of the 0III signal then move the formula around

  • @FrankRodrick-fm2vf
    @FrankRodrick-fm2vf Год назад

    Only one complaint, but it's a big one. Where's your "Thanks" button??? How can I buy you a beer to show my appreciation? This is fantastic; many thanks from this lazy OSC guy.

  • @jean-marc_m
    @jean-marc_m Год назад +1

    That's a crazy thing you did, a great job for all of astrphotographs. Many thanks Bill !

  • @toddeggleston
    @toddeggleston Год назад +1

    Good Lord, fantastic stuff, man! Thank you for sharing!!

  • @jeffratino5456
    @jeffratino5456 Год назад +1

    Bill, Thanks for putting this out for us. Tried your technique on a couple of images. Phenomenal results. I've used a couple of Luke's tutorials with some success. But this is so easy and works really well.

  • @michallackovic4489
    @michallackovic4489 Год назад +1

    Anazing work Bill. Thank you

  • @valknotsix
    @valknotsix Год назад +1

    Thank you so much Bill, you really are a shining light in the enveloping darkness that is being new at astrophtography! Top fellow

  • @sebas_ruel
    @sebas_ruel Год назад

    Awesome results with 'HOONormalizationV4' PixelMath!

  • @desmcmorrow2978
    @desmcmorrow2978 Год назад

    Hi, I was wondering whether there was somewhere where we could check of and download the latest versions of your process icons? Cheers, Des

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      It's says in the description. The download folders will always contain the latest versions. 😎

  • @AndrewThomas73
    @AndrewThomas73 Год назад +1

    Holy #### ,this is just awesome. What you have done for me with my OSCC is beyond next level. Thank you SIR.

  • @olly7248
    @olly7248 Год назад

    Just edited my SADR region data again using this process, it is superb, thanks again and I gave you a well-deserved shout out on my Astrobin comments for the image, I hope that's OK

  • @olly7248
    @olly7248 Год назад

    At what point would you recommend using NoiseXterminator during the SHO process and should it be used on all 3 stacks if doing it before Channel Combination ❓

  • @brentsecord3016
    @brentsecord3016 Год назад

    Great, but the audio is terrible.

  • @AfricanAstro
    @AfricanAstro 4 месяца назад

    I literally stared at my screen for what felt like an eternity! Could not believed how this transformed my OSC imaging. Thank you kindly,

  • @trevorworrall1226
    @trevorworrall1226 Год назад +1

    Another great tool for my processing , many thanks ! . do you have anything for the more basic task of the addition of Ha to an RGB image ? it's been the pain of my life ;-)

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад +1

      Trevor, I am working on that now. I few months back I had a hard drive crash and lost many years and terabytes of astro data and am still trying to recover. Lots of that data was shot using OSC cameras so if I can find my Ha and RGB data sets, I will begin the process and create the technique, which should only take me a day to do. I just hope I can find my data, lol

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      **Update** I had to make a change to the HOO math so Version4 is now in the download link.

  • @stephenmcarthur2250
    @stephenmcarthur2250 Год назад

    Sorry this is a silly question, but once I’ve downloaded them and doubled clicked on the file it runs a load sequence in pixinsight. But then how do I find them to use them??

  • @Clint-pe8hi
    @Clint-pe8hi Год назад +1

    Thanks Bill! Now I get to back over all my targets for the past 2 yrs and give them some new color. Appreciate your time!

  • @DeveshPande
    @DeveshPande Год назад +1

    This is absolutely fantastic. I followed Luke's channel and did most of my NB processing following his process but this is so much more easier. Also takes away the manual intervention with matching brightness of individual channels. One question though: Do you use starnet to remove your stars or is there an icon I am missing for it? Also, do you normalize at linear level or nonlinear? Great work Bill. You've got a sub!

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      Thanks for your comment! I use StarXterminator or Starnet2, both are excellent for star removal. For recombining the stars I do recomment my RGB to NB star transfer math so you can retain the same star color and brightness. You can try and normalize in linear but from all my testing non-linear provides the best results as the average deviation of the data when stretched is much greater thus the normalization will be more defined.

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад +1

      **Update** I had to make a change to the HOO math so Version4 is now in the download link.

  • @GrahamH-z5t
    @GrahamH-z5t 6 месяцев назад

    Tried the HOO Normalisation this evening on old data and the result was outstanding, much more detail teased out and fabulous colours. Thank you so much for the work you do for the Astro community.

  • @davidstearn1342
    @davidstearn1342 Год назад

    Hi Bill,
    What is the best way in install the scripts? I see that there are 3 sections of code. Is each section a separate script? I have a ZWO 533MC Pro OSC camera.
    Thanks for making this script available.

    • @billblanshan3021
      @billblanshan3021 Год назад

      The process is in the videos. Just drag the downloaded files onto your pixinsight workspace

    • @davidstearn1342
      @davidstearn1342 Год назад

      @@billblanshan3021 Thanks, I just figured out that I had to download them first. I now have the HOO and SHO Normalization process icons on my PI workspace.

  • @johnfavalessa4487
    @johnfavalessa4487 Год назад

    How can I support you? 😇

  • @Astro_Shed
    @Astro_Shed Год назад +1

    As usual Bill, another set of superb tools, to make life much easier when processing….much appreciated…👍🏻

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад +1

      Thank you!!!

    • @Astro_Shed
      @Astro_Shed Год назад

      Would it be possible to have these in some sort of UI like a script, so the settings would be easier to change rather than going into the actual code and changing there, or am I asking to much…😂😂

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      **Update** I had to make a change to the HOO math so Version4 is now in the download link.

  • @rodbell4222
    @rodbell4222 Год назад

    Hi Bill, great tutorial..! I'm pretty new to PI, so my question is, can I just copy your HOO and SHO codes here in your video into my Pixelmath fields, and get this drag and drop method to work? I have been using Lukomatico's method too BTW. But Drag and drop would be nice! I used to do HTML coding, so I know it has to typed in exactly the same as you did.Thanks...

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      You can do it that way, just make sure you copy the code from RGB/K and Symbols. The best way is to just download the math and drag and drop the file onto your workspace.

    • @rodbell4222
      @rodbell4222 Год назад

      @@anotherastrochannel2173 Can you point me to where the math is, a link or something, I have no idea? I'm pretty new to Pixinsight, thanks!

    • @rodbell4222
      @rodbell4222 Год назад

      I found them Bill, we're good, thank you!

  • @flyingdockp
    @flyingdockp Год назад

    Ive now tried your scnr, star reduction and narrowband normalization
    Great tools! I love the star reduction; it doe a wonderful job without artifacts! Actually I love all your pixelmath work… easy to use!
    I still need to try your stretch though.
    I admire your pixelmath skills!

  • @trinigunbankashi8871
    @trinigunbankashi8871 Год назад

    Thank you so much for these tutorials, Bill. He has no idea how much they have helped me improve my workflow, owing to my inexperience. Although I do not currently own an NB, I am intrigued by this video and would like to test the PixelMath SCNR with my images on Broadband.

  • @olly7248
    @olly7248 Год назад

    Thank you so much for doing this, i have such a better understanding of what my Narrowband data is and what it can do….I tried your Pixelmath out on PacMan and Soul data today and it made a huge difference to the final image… excellent ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @stefanzait
    @stefanzait Год назад +1

    Amazing tools. Thanks, Bill.

  • @catFurrBall
    @catFurrBall Год назад

    i just used your tools, bill and it's fantastic! your tools save a lot of time and makes the hobby much more enjoyable!
    thanks, bill!

  • @desmcmorrow2978
    @desmcmorrow2978 Год назад

    Many thanks for producing these helpful videos and extremely useful scripts. Cheers, Des

  • @Nico.75
    @Nico.75 Год назад

    Dear Bill
    I cannot thank you enough for all your effort you put into your Pixel Math processes, they are real game changers!
    May I ask you if it is possible to use your NB normalization tools to create dynamic NB palette blends like the Foraxx palette from @thecoldestnights? That would be great as I think that palette has a great look... Thanks again and cheers from Zurich!☺️

  • @astrophotographythewrightw9364

    Hi Bill the SHO Normalization is not working for me i stretch the 3 images then combined them remove stars with starnet 2 then run your SHO Normalization the process console pops out and looks like its doing the job but no change to the image what am i doing wrong thanks paul

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад +1

      Try and combine them in linear format, then do an unlinked stretch to your liking, then create your starlets and run the normalization on the starless image. If that doesn't work, can you email me a download link to your data at AnotherAstroChannel at gmail

    • @astrophotographythewrightw9364
      @astrophotographythewrightw9364 Год назад

      @AnotherAstroChannel will try tomorrow thankyou

  • @Zealor365
    @Zealor365 Год назад

    A little more math than I can handle this early in the morning. I'll watch again once I get my brain in gear. Thanks!

  • @alneid2707
    @alneid2707 Год назад +1

    This is fascinating stuff. Wish I'd found your channel much, much sooner.
    What would you recommend as a reference source to learn more about pixelmath? In the meantime, I'll just download all the process icons you've made available!

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      Al, re pixelmath, this is a hard one. There are a lot of videos on processing astro images within Pixinsight and most use some generic pixelmaths. I dont know of anyone specifically teaching pixelmath. I know Adam Block has a lot of indepth videos but maybe I can do more videos on pixelmath basics.

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      **Update** I had to make a change to the HOO math so Version4 is now in the download link.

    • @alneid2707
      @alneid2707 Год назад

      @@anotherastrochannel2173 Thanks for the response. If you decide to do a 'basics' series on pixelmath, I'll be watching. You, and a few others, are really showing people the power of this tool, yet it's a mystery to most of us. In the mean time, guess I'll read some PI documentation to see if that will get the ball rolling for me.

  • @steveking3611
    @steveking3611 Год назад

    Amazing stuff Bill. I tried the SHO Normalization and compared it to my normal processing, and, your approach produced a better image and with a lot less work!! Thank you so much for sharing all your hard work with us. Steve

  • @ttnownow1292
    @ttnownow1292 Год назад

    You're a steely-eyed missile man! Thanks for all your hard work!

  • @DamianVines
    @DamianVines Год назад

    This is amazing Bill thank you! Quick question about normalizing Flat Darks... Are they also supposed to be No Normalization like regular Darks?

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      No sir. Dark Flats are "Dark frames" that match the same exposure time as your flats. "Darks" are match to the same exposure as your Lights. The only time you want to scale darks is if you shot your lights at different exposure times and dont have the correct master dark to calibrate your lights with. I dont like this method but it can be done

  • @jonbasstro1413
    @jonbasstro1413 Год назад +1

    Hi Bill, this tool is amazing,just trying it out now on some OSC data I gathered last year.This and all your other tools you provided have made been a game changer for me and the Astro imaging community using Pixinsight. Amazing work and thank you so much for sharing this.Clear skies.

  • @astromadness
    @astromadness Год назад

    Thanks for putting this video and these processes together. I'm dyslexic and can find putting a process together in the right order really tricky sometimes. Particularly maths based ones, and not just for astro imaging, but in all walks of life. What you've done is provided me (and the whole community) with the ability to up my processing game and take a lot of the struggle out of what can be a very long winded and tough thing for me to do. What could be easier than using a drag and drop technique?! Thank you so much 🙂

  • @LogansAstro
    @LogansAstro Год назад +1

    Another great set of tools for people to use - thanks Bill. Great job.

  • @petertravis7297
    @petertravis7297 Год назад

    Hi Bill, many thanks for your video. I want to give it a go. I have downloaded your Narrowband Normalization file. My question (sorry new to Pixinsight) How do I load the file within Pixinsight? I dont seem to be able to do so. Many thanks for your help.

    • @billblanshan3021
      @billblanshan3021 Год назад

      You can drag and drop the downloaded icons onto your pixinsight workspace

  • @staceylloyd6236
    @staceylloyd6236 Год назад

    Fantastic overview and explanation of your normalization process tools. Your explanations are always well done and I appreciate the visuals as I am oriented that same way as well. Take care and clear skies.

  • @giohelp
    @giohelp Год назад

    Realy nice work man. Thankyou

  • @gregmckay666
    @gregmckay666 Год назад

    As Luke has already said, Game Changer!

  • @ronor-el706
    @ronor-el706 Год назад

    Such a great tool. Thanks Bill :)

  • @angelvphotography
    @angelvphotography Год назад

    Hi Bill, excellent work mate, thank you for that.
    I'm getting the following error message:
    * Error: Invalid character in expression:
    /* Normalize HOO data with Pixelmath - V3
    by Bill Blanshan

    See "Symbols" tab for blending modifications
    Drag the bottom left arrow over to your HOO image
    Notes:
    1) On symbols page, turn OFF OIII Scurve=0, On=1
    2) Works best on a non-linear image; however, because this method
    is a linear style stretch, stars in the image will most likely be
    blown out. It is best to remove the stars first. The preferred
    method to adding the stars back is using my RGB to Narrowband
    pixel math so that star color is preserved.
    Hope you enjoy!!!*/
    $T[0]*BrightnessControl
    .................................................^
    Reading swap files...
    1651.312 MiB/s
    Could you help me to identify what it's going on please?. Thanks in advance.

    • @anotherastrochannel2173
      @anotherastrochannel2173  Год назад

      Are you running the latest version of pixinsight? Also, please make sure you dont delete any character after the nuber value like this " ; ". Try reloading the math script again if you feel that something got currupted. Bill

    • @lepetitbaigneur9073
      @lepetitbaigneur9073 Год назад

      @@anotherastrochannel2173 i got the same error =(

  • @ScottDavies
    @ScottDavies Год назад

    Such an amazing video 😊 THANKS Bill