I really like this method, but I had a hard time colonizing until I realized the curves for "b" and "R" could easily give the desired Sii and Ha colors. No messing with "G" and "B" is needed.
When you are using Pixel math to put your self-colored SHO images into the R, G, and B channels, what does it actually mean when you put the red-tinted HA into the "Green" channel in Pixel math? If it just uses your colors instead of "green", then why would it matter which color channel (RGB) you put your SHO images into, i.e., Ha into G, O into B, and S into R? What is Pixelmath actually doing here? For example, would it even matter in the final RGB image if you put Ha into R, O into G, or S into B? Thanks!!
Colonizing is really just visual feedback for removing the green bias. Now I do know that tweaking the colors will produce a different final image and that tinting the ha to say blue and oiii to yellow will not produce a standard sho image. So color does matter, it not just signal as when you combine 3 grayscale images. What pixelmath is doing when combining the 3 rgb images colored to the color we are looking for is still a mystery to me. It just works. Love to hear about your personal experience using the method.
Russel Croman said to never run NoixeXterminator on linear data. Can you explain why you are doing it here, rather then after you stretch everything? I have tried NXT before BXT, and it makes it way worse than if you run BXT, and then stretch, and then NXT. Have you tried it both ways? It makes a huge difference. I have been learning from your videos and other's, thank you so much! But what I am lacking is WHY you make the choices you do, on various check boxes and slider controls, and the order in which you do things. It all just seems so will nilly, with no rhyme or reason. Adam Block has some good explanation, but I have had to do a lot of trial and error on my own, and keep good notes. There really doesn't seem to be any sort of authoritative source out there with the correct order in which to do certain things (and WHY they must be done in that order!), and also what tools are for linear data only, and which are for non-linear data only. Thanks again!! I am taking notes from all your videos!
Hey! Well for starters stretching noise is always tough to fix later in the process. Linear noise reduction should be a part of a prestretch work flow. Pixinsight is full of linear noise reduceskng tools. If you look through all my pix videos the prestretch routine is basically the same. Crop, dbe, decon, noise red, stretch. Your Data will dictate settings and sometime processes steps in different orders. If there is any process settings your curious about let me know.
Hey! Division helps when you have a multiplicitive gradient. Basically gradient the occur when combining not imaging. Such as vignetting. Typical sky gradients would be a light to dark in 1 direction, these gradients are handled best with subtraction. In my case my flats over correct sometimes so I use division to removed the circular gradient.
Woot Woot, I had much better results quicker using this method. I changed it up a bit by using Pixelmath to change the relative strengths of the channels, multiplying each channel to increase or decrease its relative strength to bring out more or less of a filter, usually only a factor or .8 to 1.2 for the multiplier. So if too much blue multiply Oii by .8, not enough red multiply Sii by 1.2. I also removed the stars prior to running DBE, using blurxterminator and noise exterminator prior to stretching. Really love how well this approach works!!
If there would be ab Astrovideo of the year - this would be it! I don't care if it is only March - THIS IS IT!!!!! WOW!!!!! Steven - you are my hero - this is more than cool!!!!!
do you need to have an image open at the last step to combine the 3 images back into a single image- I thought that if you hit "Apply All" it would just do the job...
Hi im having an issue where my RGB isnt aligning after even tho they are all the same resolution maybe slightly different positions when shooting ? any idea how to fix this its so slightly off but its hard to align them manually
Yep, run them the star alingment tool in Pixinsight. Choose a reference image and drag your instance onto the image you want to alingment to it. It will scale as well.
I'm still not sure why the colors seem to carry over when combined in RGB using Pixel Math...BUT....I finally reprocessed some two year old data of the Pillars of Creation using your method.....Wow! I am really happy with the results. Thanks.
When I’m getting to the point of using curves to add the colors for the respective filters it’s not applying the color. Do I need to convert them to RGB before doing so? @enteringintospace
Im so excited to try this method , from what camera and filter combination does this data come from ? I use a ASI071MCPRO with the l extreme filter , so it’s not a real sho image later. But does that work with my data as well ? CS Dennis
I am trying to do this on an image of the Heart nebula, but I still get all the H coming through as green. Really green. I colorize the 3 narrowband channels successfully, but when I do the pixelmath, red (S) and blue (O) come through more or less as expected, but my beautiful golden H comes through as bright green. Has something changed in the way pixelmath combines these channels?
Great video. Very good idea. However I notice that when I try it, even though I have coloured the H-alpha yellow-orange, when I combine in pixelmath, it comes through as green.
Wood woot! To run Xterminator tools on multiple images, I use image container. Right click on an empty spot in Pixinsight, Image Container, add the images, and then drag the triangle in Image Container into the Xterminator bottom bar.
Awesome buddy, took some effort to figure out how to apply it to my garbage data, but it works wonders. So much more control over the final result… Thanks…
Bloody awesome Steve! Am I allowed to say that??? Woot Woot from me🤛 I will try that for sure, I've tried a few of your edits and they're all great, so thanks for that! Good shout out to Quiv for sharing his ideas also👍Clear Skies!
Woot woot 👊 Brilliant Steven! I’ll be trying it out asap. It really created a fantastic depth of field in your image, and love the colour intensities without blowing the colours out. Thanks for sharing this 👍
@@enteringintospace4685 No asto darkness in Scotland just now so thought i'd grab some remote mono data from telescope live as I shoot with a OSC camera.
woot woot 🤜great tutorial and thanks. Will definitely be trying it out. Intrigued as to how you decided what colours to convert the S & H to within the R&G channels - but end result is fantastic
fantastic process!!!!! cant wait to try this on my rosette data. im only one image into my narrow band experience. thanks for this video. i subscribed as fast as i could :) woot woot!!!!
great work! at 8:11 when you're talking about removing stars from multiple images, that 'process batch' button may work in StarXterminator but may be more of a hassle, dunno...
Lol...thats my job😊. OTA....hmm. eh, I'll have a video out soon on it. When it's working right its a great scope but it's been a challenge to tweak out the quality flaws.
@@enteringintospace4685 I’ve a very pleased with the C8 hd a little soft with .7 but With the hyperstar amazing. That’s the one for you. Maybe the 11. Just do it already. With your skills in PI.
@@enteringintospace4685 I’ve a very pleased with the C8 hd a little soft with .7 but With the hyperstar amazing. That’s the one for you. Maybe the 11. Just do it already. With your skills in PI.
woot woot worth the wait!...on a side note...I am wondering how much the final color is affect by the shades you end up with on the 3 pics...what if the orange-red is off a little or the blue of the oxygen isn't right....how will it look in the end??? can't wait to play with this....thanks!
The secret I believe is in the masks, there needs to be areas of each image that remain black or have very little color. And yes, I've tried making the ha red for instance and it definitely affects the final image.
Doesn't process batch only work with saved images or files? I don't think you can batch process unsaved images in your workspace. If that's the case, its probably more work to save the files, run the batch and then reopen everything rather than just executing the process on each image.
WonderFUL Steven, i am flabbergasted , have to look it a few times (almost 70 years young you know) Gracias for all the work, a Belgian guy who is living in Spain !!!!😀
Keep those details detaily! WOOT WOOT! I learned something new about that ACDNR mask, but I like the idea of focusing on the contract and structures in each starless color channel. Great work dude!
Worked very well on my first attempt. I think it will be even better whenI get my eye in to the best individual colours to aim for. Maybe I'll work from a colour card. I wanted to share the image I produced but I guess YT doesn't allow that. Thanks for yet another great video.
Great idea! I got a great SHO image with only 6 hours of data this way. Very nice. Also, "Process Batch" is your friend if you don't want to remove stars one at a time...
I also have something similar, 7 hours- but using this method my images always look super muddy and noisier. I wonder if I’m not doing something correctly….
Yours came out great, but mine not as much. Ha still caused some green in the center of the soul, but SCNR took it away. Maybe more exposure would help but mine seemed a little soft.
Brilliant video ~ thank you !! I just tried it and ended up with a horrible magenta mess with a blue haze over it so back to the drawing board on that one, but learnt so much along the way. I suspect much of my failure down to fine tuning the masks for the different channels and then getting a better saturation balance. Great to play about with. Perhaps a different target with less complex nebula to start with for me. Thanks again😂
Hey thanks for letting me know and yes I've had some data produce a heavy magenta bias but the correct magenta stars script will take care of that. I've also found the heavier red tones in the sulfur will contribute to that. Making the sulfur data just a bit darker yellow that the ha data will also help. Good luck!
This is awesome. I always enjoyed the creative artistic process, and love your comment about "colors are personal". This new process opens up a lot of creative opportunities to stay engaged with the hobby. Thank you for taking the time to make the video.
Oh no! What was the target and how much data did you have!? If you want to send me your masters I process them and see what I come up with. s1308pc@hotmail.com
I have used your method on several images since you came out with this video. Great results on all of them...until...two nights ago. I shot NGC6888 in medium seeing conditions with my EdgeHD11/6200MM/30 x 180 sec RGB for stars/90 x 180 sec SHO for nebula. I tried three times with crazy colors/results, absolute junk! I finally thought about trying pixelmath to combine the 3 colorized/processed images by using them each as a portion of one color channel only, i.e., ((.33*S)+(.33*H)+(.33*O)). This worked OK. I finally tweaked the combination proportions, emphasizing the Oii at .5 and S&H at .25. This worked very well. Just when you think you have something figured out in this hobby, something throws in the monkey wrench. Just my observations. Thanks for your innovative thinking.
Going to have to look into what that is doing when you stick RGB images into the separate channels in the pixel math part, as that's not an intuative result, in that if you specify separate inputs for the R G B channels, what is it actually doing, as the intuative result (at least to me) would be that it would take the luminance of each input and use that, but that would mean throwing away the colourisation and ending up back where we started with a classic SHO result.
I thought the same thing. Obviously, we are wrong....but I do not understand why the colors carry over to the individual RGB channels in pixelmath. Good job, regardless.
the explanation is pretty simple. i just recreated this effect in photoshop. from the o3 image, only the blue channel is copied to the final image. from the s2 only the red channel, from the ha only the green channel. thats how the algorithm works with transfering rgb data to a greyscale. when matching a rgb-image to a color channel, lets say to blue, only the blue data from the rgb-image is used as a greyscale. red and green will be thrown away. in the end the magic is just getting the right stretch for each channel which is sort of automated with this worklow. very well done. @enteringintospace4685 thank you very much for this great idea.
@@ferdigrafie Ah I read this after my reply and testing. It does mean that it is more of an accident depending on what you do with the three RGB images wrt colours you decide to stretch them too, ie if you were to make the SII pretty much blue, then that's not going to be included when you combine the images. (Sorry cross 'posted' with comments on Cuiv's video in case that opening statement confuses)
@@andyclark5107 the result is kind of expected because by coloring the individual data to specific colors will automaticly tweak the luminance for each color channel. i am looking forward to test this on my older images. since we are covered here in clouds for months now i have plenty of time to experiment with some older data...
@@ferdigrafie I mean, not really, my point is that the explanations don't actually explain what is happening when you perform the PixelMath, it makes for cconfusing results given the lack of understanding of what its doing (I know we have now cleared up what its doing, but people watching the various videos would get potentially odd results depending one the colours chosen).
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Where's this Dolphin Head image you teased in the video? Let''s see it!
I really like this method, but I had a hard time colonizing until I realized the curves for "b" and "R" could easily give the desired Sii and Ha colors. No messing with "G" and "B" is needed.
@@georgehatfield9473 Great to hear!
When you are using Pixel math to put your self-colored SHO images into the R, G, and B channels, what does it actually mean when you put the red-tinted HA into the "Green" channel in Pixel math? If it just uses your colors instead of "green", then why would it matter which color channel (RGB) you put your SHO images into, i.e., Ha into G, O into B, and S into R? What is Pixelmath actually doing here? For example, would it even matter in the final RGB image if you put Ha into R, O into G, or S into B? Thanks!!
Colonizing is really just visual feedback for removing the green bias. Now I do know that tweaking the colors will produce a different final image and that tinting the ha to say blue and oiii to yellow will not produce a standard sho image. So color does matter, it not just signal as when you combine 3 grayscale images. What pixelmath is doing when combining the 3 rgb images colored to the color we are looking for is still a mystery to me. It just works.
Love to hear about your personal experience using the method.
Russel Croman said to never run NoixeXterminator on linear data. Can you explain why you are doing it here, rather then after you stretch everything? I have tried NXT before BXT, and it makes it way worse than if you run BXT, and then stretch, and then NXT. Have you tried it both ways? It makes a huge difference. I have been learning from your videos and other's, thank you so much! But what I am lacking is WHY you make the choices you do, on various check boxes and slider controls, and the order in which you do things. It all just seems so will nilly, with no rhyme or reason. Adam Block has some good explanation, but I have had to do a lot of trial and error on my own, and keep good notes. There really doesn't seem to be any sort of authoritative source out there with the correct order in which to do certain things (and WHY they must be done in that order!), and also what tools are for linear data only, and which are for non-linear data only. Thanks again!! I am taking notes from all your videos!
Hey! Well for starters stretching noise is always tough to fix later in the process. Linear noise reduction should be a part of a prestretch work flow. Pixinsight is full of linear noise reduceskng tools.
If you look through all my pix videos the prestretch routine is basically the same.
Crop, dbe, decon, noise red, stretch. Your Data will dictate settings and sometime processes steps in different orders.
If there is any process settings your curious about let me know.
Question? When you used ABE on this, Why did you use Division instead of Subtract? These are some of the things that have confused my scrambled brain.
Hey! Division helps when you have a multiplicitive gradient. Basically gradient the occur when combining not imaging. Such as vignetting.
Typical sky gradients would be a light to dark in 1 direction, these gradients are handled best with subtraction. In my case my flats over correct sometimes so I use division to removed the circular gradient.
Woot Woot, I had much better results quicker using this method. I changed it up a bit by using Pixelmath to change the relative strengths of the channels, multiplying each channel to increase or decrease its relative strength to bring out more or less of a filter, usually only a factor or .8 to 1.2 for the multiplier. So if too much blue multiply Oii by .8, not enough red multiply Sii by 1.2. I also removed the stars prior to running DBE, using blurxterminator and noise exterminator prior to stretching. Really love how well this approach works!!
Interesting adding the percentages on pixelmath. Glad you liked the process!
If there would be ab Astrovideo of the year - this would be it! I don't care if it is only March - THIS IS IT!!!!! WOW!!!!! Steven - you are my hero - this is more than cool!!!!!
Hey! Thanks so much! Let me how the process works on your data!
do you need to have an image open at the last step to combine the 3 images back into a single image- I thought that if you hit "Apply All" it would just do the job...
No in the process you can't apply globally so you have to have at least I image open. I don't make the rules..lol
Great video Steve and its a Woot Woot from me. I have a few images I will be trying this out on and will let you know how they turn out. CS!
Awesome Glenn! Yeah can't wait to see one of your images!
Hi im having an issue where my RGB isnt aligning after even tho they are all the same resolution maybe slightly different positions when shooting ? any idea how to fix this its so slightly off but its hard to align them manually
Yep, run them the star alingment tool in Pixinsight. Choose a reference image and drag your instance onto the image you want to alingment to it. It will scale as well.
I'm still not sure why the colors seem to carry over when combined in RGB using Pixel Math...BUT....I finally reprocessed some two year old data of the Pillars of Creation using your method.....Wow! I am really happy with the results. Thanks.
Very cool! Thanks for letting me know!
Great technique. The trick of removing stars from multiple images with a single action can be achieved with an image container.
Thanks! And yes I've been receiving some guidance on this so definitely need to learn it.
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@enteringintospace4685 This is an outstanding process. Thank you!
Thanks!!
I’m still watching but you mentioned star removal on lots of images. Have you tried the process batch method in StarXterminator?
Apparently not! Lol.....I must investigate!
I tried it and works great
When I’m getting to the point of using curves to add the colors for the respective filters it’s not applying the color. Do I need to convert them to RGB before doing so? @enteringintospace
Yes....you need to convert the images to rgb after you stretch them and before you apply the masks to add the color.
@@enteringintospace4685 I knew I was forgetting something🤣 I was starting to split quarks in my brain! This is Darien btw it’s my main account.
Im so excited to try this method , from what camera and filter combination does this data come from ?
I use a ASI071MCPRO with the l extreme filter , so it’s not a real sho image later. But does that work with my data as well ?
CS Dennis
I wonder if this would work with OSC data as well.
Good question, if you have some osc data of a target typically shot in narrowband send it over. It would be fun to see if it will work.
Any chance you can do a video doing this with a OSC and dual band filter. I have many photos taken with my 294MC with hyperstar and IDAS.
Holy crap! That’s amazing.
Hey Paul!! Appreciate the positive feedback!
I am trying to do this on an image of the Heart nebula, but I still get all the H coming through as green. Really green. I colorize the 3 narrowband channels successfully, but when I do the pixelmath, red (S) and blue (O) come through more or less as expected, but my beautiful golden H comes through as bright green. Has something changed in the way pixelmath combines these channels?
Great video. Very good idea. However I notice that when I try it, even though I have coloured the H-alpha yellow-orange, when I combine in pixelmath, it comes through as green.
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Wood woot! To run Xterminator tools on multiple images, I use image container. Right click on an empty spot in Pixinsight, Image Container, add the images, and then drag the triangle in Image Container into the Xterminator bottom bar.
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By far this is the best work flow for you to follow for narrowband. I am getting fantastic results using this.
That's so great to hear....thanks for letting me know!
Using this method my images always look super muddy and noisy. What am I not doing wrong?
How could you merge the different channels in photoshop?
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Hi ! Great video ! Is it possible to have for every layers the pourcentage of RGB to reproduice your beautifull palette ?
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Awesome buddy, took some effort to figure out how to apply it to my garbage data, but it works wonders. So much more control over the final result… Thanks…
Removing stars from several images is in your Star XT already. It is button at bottom right corner.
Bloody awesome Steve! Am I allowed to say that??? Woot Woot from me🤛 I will try that for sure, I've tried a few of your edits and they're all great, so thanks for that! Good shout out to Quiv for sharing his ideas also👍Clear Skies!
Cuiv even🤣
Woot woot 👊 Brilliant Steven! I’ll be trying it out asap. It really created a fantastic depth of field in your image, and love the colour intensities without blowing the colours out. Thanks for sharing this 👍
Thanks! Let me know how it works out for you!
Very interesting I have some southern hemisphere remote data I'm going to try this on!
Lucky! 😉 let me know how it turns out for ya
@@enteringintospace4685 No asto darkness in Scotland just now so thought i'd grab some remote mono data from telescope live as I shoot with a OSC camera.
Cuiv sent me... I am not a PixInsight user, but seeing these things and trying to apply them to my world of Siril is very inspring. Thanks!
Very cool! Let me know it works out in Siril.
This is a way I used in Photoshop. Pixelmath is more flexible.
I missed the woot woot so i'm gonna go rogue and say HOOT 'N HOLLAR lmao Great video senor.
Yes haw!! Lol thanks man!
woot woot 🤜great tutorial and thanks. Will definitely be trying it out. Intrigued as to how you decided what colours to convert the S & H to within the R&G channels - but end result is fantastic
fantastic process!!!!! cant wait to try this on my rosette data. im only one image into my narrow band experience. thanks for this video. i subscribed as fast as i could :) woot woot!!!!
Very cool! Definitely let me know how it turns out! Thanks for the sub
Like Eric said, the colors aren't real but the differences are. Great process.
Honestly, no-one is colour correcting each channel before combining it???
I've tried this repeatedly on different images no matter what colour i make them they still end up green
Can this method be used in OSC data? I do not use mono cameras and your images are spectacular!
Can you summarize your key steps in one paragraph?
Quick question. Wouldn't you do rgb workingspace to even out contributions of each channel before you pull lum off the 1st chanel combine?
I haven't found that to make much difference. Thanks for watching!
great work! at 8:11 when you're talking about removing stars from multiple images, that 'process batch' button may work in StarXterminator but may be more of a hassle, dunno...
Thanks! Yeah I figured out how to use it after several comments. It will be in my next video
Woot woot! I’ll definitely be trying this out Steve, it looks amazing. Great video!
Good deal Joe! Can't wait to see what you get from it!
Woot woot, fist bump, whatever you say. I have a Prawn Nebula that is screaming to try this. I love your work. Simple as that.
Hey thanks!! Let me know how it turns out for you.
w00t w00t! Very interesting to see... but no one puts baby in the corner, lol. Great result! CS!
Ding ding!! You heard the dirty dancing reference! Lol
Nice you crack me up. How are you liking the new OTA?
Lol...thats my job😊. OTA....hmm. eh, I'll have a video out soon on it. When it's working right its a great scope but it's been a challenge to tweak out the quality flaws.
@@enteringintospace4685 I’ve a very pleased with the C8 hd a little soft with .7 but With the hyperstar amazing. That’s the one for you. Maybe the 11. Just do it already. With your skills in PI.
@@enteringintospace4685 I’ve a very pleased with the C8 hd a little soft with .7 but With the hyperstar amazing. That’s the one for you. Maybe the 11. Just do it already. With your skills in PI.
Great technique! I’m so enthusiastic about it! It als works for adding Ha to LRGB… gives much more control!
Hey great to hear! Thanks!
Awesome dude, Thanks for showing me this, I'm happy with my Soul, but, i'm going to reprocess it using this technique
Very cool, can't to hear how it turns oit!
Woot Woot!!! I can't wait to try this out. Love the video. Question - What do you recommend the mapping when you are shooting dual band OSC?
Thanks! Honestly I had someone send me their osc data and there just wasn't enough structure difference to achieve the same results unfortunately.
That''s a Wootie Woot from me!
Haha! Thanks!
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Lol...get it right 🤣
Great video. Thank you for sharing it.
woot woot worth the wait!...on a side note...I am wondering how much the final color is affect by the shades you end up with on the 3 pics...what if the orange-red is off a little or the blue of the oxygen isn't right....how will it look in the end??? can't wait to play with this....thanks!
The secret I believe is in the masks, there needs to be areas of each image that remain black or have very little color. And yes, I've tried making the ha red for instance and it definitely affects the final image.
Great video! Will give it a shot! Process batch in StarX will work on multiple files.;)
Thanks for the tip! 😊
Doesn't process batch only work with saved images or files? I don't think you can batch process unsaved images in your workspace.
If that's the case, its probably more work to save the files, run the batch and then reopen everything rather than just executing the process on each image.
@@SnaxxNZGaming still considered as batching as you don't have to wait around for each one to finish. Other PI processes work the same.
WonderFUL Steven, i am flabbergasted , have to look it a few times (almost 70 years young you know) Gracias for all the work, a Belgian guy who is living in Spain !!!!😀
Thanks so much!!
Woot woot..... Very well done !!
Some of what you did, I didn't think was possible.. Thanks so much. I hope to use it soon.
Thanks and good luck!!
Keep those details detaily! WOOT WOOT! I learned something new about that ACDNR mask, but I like the idea of focusing on the contract and structures in each starless color channel. Great work dude!
Thanks Wade! Looking forward to what you can get out of it!
Worked very well on my first attempt. I think it will be even better whenI get my eye in to the best individual colours to aim for. Maybe I'll work from a colour card. I wanted to share the image I produced but I guess YT doesn't allow that. Thanks for yet another great video.
Very cool! Love to see your results!
s1308pc@hotmail.com
Great idea! I got a great SHO image with only 6 hours of data this way. Very nice. Also, "Process Batch" is your friend if you don't want to remove stars one at a time...
I also have something similar, 7 hours- but using this method my images always look super muddy and noisier. I wonder if I’m not doing something correctly….
woot woot! I applied the workflow to the wizard nebula, and the result is outstanding! Thank you so much for sharing this great workflow!
Awesome!!
WOOT WOOT! Another great video! Learned tonnes from you Steven, thanks a lot for your work. Easily the best channel on RUclips 👊🙌
Wow!!! Thanks so much!
This is amazing, loving the workflow. Just completed my second image the colours blow my mind. Keep up the great work
Awesome!! Thanks for letting know😊
Yours came out great, but mine not as much. Ha still caused some green in the center of the soul, but SCNR took it away. Maybe more exposure would help but mine seemed a little soft.
Interesting, appreciate the feedback!
Woot Woot nice job
Thanks!
mind blowing stuff! nice colour palette
Genius! Woo-woo indeed. Thanks for showing us your technique - transformative.
Thanks!
WOW! That color is incredible. Looks like really clean data too!
great work coach! i'm still trying to pull the trigger on getting blurx, noisex, and starx. I'm waiting for a bundle deal lol
Lol, not sure there's gona be a russel bundle. At least their not subscriptions
'Freak'in' Awesome Steve. The Master at work. - woot woot! Cheers
Thanks Kurt! 👊
Brilliant video ~ thank you !! I just tried it and ended up with a horrible magenta mess with a blue haze over it so back to the drawing board on that one, but learnt so much along the way. I suspect much of my failure down to fine tuning the masks for the different channels and then getting a better saturation balance. Great to play about with. Perhaps a different target with less complex nebula to start with for me. Thanks again😂
Hey thanks for letting me know and yes I've had some data produce a heavy magenta bias but the correct magenta stars script will take care of that. I've also found the heavier red tones in the sulfur will contribute to that. Making the sulfur data just a bit darker yellow that the ha data will also help. Good luck!
Another great video. Woot woot!Reddish-yellow in some circles they use the term “orange” 😂
I never belonged to those circles 🤣 Thanks!
This is awesome. I always enjoyed the creative artistic process, and love your comment about "colors are personal". This new process opens up a lot of creative opportunities to stay engaged with the hobby. Thank you for taking the time to make the video.
Really interesting way to colorize... I was wondering... How would you do this with only H and O data?
Glad you asked....I should have a video out on it soon
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Hey hey!!
Woot woot! Love the method Steven. From a new Pixinsight user, please keep the videos coming!
Thanks and will do!
Woot woot! Awesome, brilliant video, thanks for making this. Off to have a go right now :)!!
Awesome! Let me know how it turns out!
I'm going to have to try this. Thanks
As a noob, I must say, your method is the most intuitive and straightforward one I've come across. Thanks very much for sharing!
Right on! Appreciate you letting me know
I followed this to a tee and when I combined them the whole thing had a green cast to it. Lol. I couldn’t believe it. Clearly I did something wrong.
Oh no! What was the target and how much data did you have!? If you want to send me your masters I process them and see what I come up with.
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Great, thanks 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 looking forward to getting home to try your method
Good luck! Let me know how it turns out!
Hey, just wanted to say great work and keep up with the videos, very good buddy!
Thanks!
Woot Woot 👊. One the best videos I watched in a while man! Can’t wait to try this out 🤩👏🔭📷
Thanks! Let me know how it works out for your data!
I have used your method on several images since you came out with this video. Great results on all of them...until...two nights ago. I shot NGC6888 in medium seeing conditions with my EdgeHD11/6200MM/30 x 180 sec RGB for stars/90 x 180 sec SHO for nebula. I tried three times with crazy colors/results, absolute junk! I finally thought about trying pixelmath to combine the 3 colorized/processed images by using them each as a portion of one color channel only, i.e., ((.33*S)+(.33*H)+(.33*O)). This worked OK. I finally tweaked the combination proportions, emphasizing the Oii at .5 and S&H at .25. This worked very well. Just when you think you have something figured out in this hobby, something throws in the monkey wrench. Just my observations. Thanks for your innovative thinking.
Going to have to look into what that is doing when you stick RGB images into the separate channels in the pixel math part, as that's not an intuative result, in that if you specify separate inputs for the R G B channels, what is it actually doing, as the intuative result (at least to me) would be that it would take the luminance of each input and use that, but that would mean throwing away the colourisation and ending up back where we started with a classic SHO result.
I thought the same thing. Obviously, we are wrong....but I do not understand why the colors carry over to the individual RGB channels in pixelmath. Good job, regardless.
the explanation is pretty simple. i just recreated this effect in photoshop. from the o3 image, only the blue channel is copied to the final image. from the s2 only the red channel, from the ha only the green channel. thats how the algorithm works with transfering rgb data to a greyscale. when matching a rgb-image to a color channel, lets say to blue, only the blue data from the rgb-image is used as a greyscale. red and green will be thrown away. in the end the magic is just getting the right stretch for each channel which is sort of automated with this worklow. very well done. @enteringintospace4685 thank you very much for this great idea.
@@ferdigrafie Ah I read this after my reply and testing. It does mean that it is more of an accident depending on what you do with the three RGB images wrt colours you decide to stretch them too, ie if you were to make the SII pretty much blue, then that's not going to be included when you combine the images. (Sorry cross 'posted' with comments on Cuiv's video in case that opening statement confuses)
@@andyclark5107 the result is kind of expected because by coloring the individual data to specific colors will automaticly tweak the luminance for each color channel. i am looking forward to test this on my older images. since we are covered here in clouds for months now i have plenty of time to experiment with some older data...
@@ferdigrafie I mean, not really, my point is that the explanations don't actually explain what is happening when you perform the PixelMath, it makes for cconfusing results given the lack of understanding of what its doing (I know we have now cleared up what its doing, but people watching the various videos would get potentially odd results depending one the colours chosen).
Fantastic - Thankyou.
Thanks for sharing! I absolutely love what you did there.
Thanks for watching!
Just tried your workflow fantastic results thank you for sharing 👍
Hey Thanks for letting me know !