'You've In Fact Exceeded Your Authority': Gaetz Drills Into ATF Director Over Controversial Rule
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- At today's House Judiciary Committee hearing, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) questioned ATF Director Steven Dettelbach about a rule for classifying gun sellers.
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All in Congress: Just stop with the BS and cut all the funding from this man's budget. Shut the ATF down permanently.
You’re right. We need to organize and prepare candidates that will do what is just and honorable, and attempt to change things peacefully working within government before everyday American’s fuse burns out.
Currently, the Dems and Repubs together vote to waste the people’s resources and spit on the people’s rights.
If we can’t organize a new organization of purely patriot, revolutionary Americans that put American people and their rights first…. it’s not going to be good for anyone.
I want peace. That’s why I promote a new organization. The Dems and Repubs have failed the people. What do you think?
@@andrewcanady6644I suspect that for Congress to effectively dissolve the ATF through 100% removal of funding, sending the (former) agent maggots "onto the street", would be helpful to prevent firearm owning citizens from revolting.
However, creating another, new Gov't "organization" to replace the ATF would likely result in a starting point for corruption & power expansion to infest the new "organization", just as the ATF been similarly so infested for years.
There are already several very powerful federal law enforcement agencies in existence, such as the FBI, U.S. Marshalls, DHS, DEA, USCG & the BATFE (usually known simply as the "ATF"), & I'm quite sure these agencies have overlapping authority. In addition, I'm quite sure there are other (non law enforcement specific) federal agencies (such as the NRC, NSA, FDA & others) that likely could, & probably do act in a law enforcement role independently, or in support of the "dedicated" federal law enforcement agencies.
Before the creation of the DHS, the FBI (as well as the CIA, I believe) was tasked with the same responsibility as now lies with the DHS. Since the FBI already had (for many years) the DHS's responsibility, there should have been no good reason to create the DHS, & thus it seems most likely the DHS was created mainly to expand the size & power of the federal Govt.
I think if the ATF were to be dissolved, & it was decided to transfer its responsibility to another Govt organization, it would probably be better if that organization was already established (& carefully reformed & enforced toward acting constitutionally) rather than create a new organization, as there are too many powerful federal organizations, as it is, & they are probably all corrupt, to some degree.
GOP is performing for the camera to fundraise by posing as representing constituents
CONSERVATIVE posers fundraise off performance theater trying to look as if they serve constituents
@@andrewcanady6644 I consider the Republicans are the ones that work for the American people. Lincoln was the first Republican president and won the first civil war to abolish slavery in our country forever. President Jackson liberated our country from Muslim threat. These are the great heroes of our country.
Disband the ATF now.
AMEN!!!
Arguing with progressive activists, is pointless.
They look like brown shirts to me....
@@dominickperino3142 Brown shirts sounds like 1930s anti German propaganda...this is here in America and now.
This is the only way. It's an unconstitutional agency, among many, that are doing unconstitutional activities. The ATF director keeps saying they don't write law, but they do. They write regulations without a legislative vote, and then use lethal force to enforce those regulations. I'm sorry, but that certainly sounds like the ATF writes law.
The ATF literally exists to violate your 2nd amendment rights.
Are you thinking they have rules written in Russian or Chinese
The ATF should and needs to be totally abolished. The only other option we have is to not comply to outrageous rules, and support each other, like CRS when they come after you. It only takes so long before the Federal Gov reigns them in when we start not complying and voting pro 2A representatives in to office Until then we will continue allowing the 2nd to be walked all over and pissed on by Liberals and ATF.
@tjtrent2351 the problem is they'll show up with 50 armed men to one person's home at a time and I don't care how well you're armed you won't win and they know this. The shitty part is that they can get so many agents to go against our rights to come and take them.
Harris exists to violate your 2nd amendment rights…..
“It’s still in litigation” , ok then , how about not killing people over it ?
WHY DOES CONGRESS NOT HAVE THE POWER TO FLATLY COME OUT AND SAY, " ANSWER THE QUESTION WITH YES OR NO, OR YOU WILL BE HELD IN CONTENPT!"
I might be wrong but I am pretty sure Congress has no legal authority to impose laws over individuals, they simply have the legal right to investigate agencies and corresponding individuals to help find information as to why certain actions and decisions are or were made. You also would need a judge to have him held in contempt.
If I am wrong please correct me, this is a hail marry from high school government class from 20 years ago.
@@ForeverTheWar I believe you are correct, but Senators ought to be able to force you to answer questions.
All of these “inquiries “ are nothing but a joke and waste of money, nothing is ever done… look at all the fbi bullshit.
just more evasive answers from the same faction
policy is not law, AFT cannot make laws, only policy.
Shut down this ATF they are making up their own rules ENOUGH
Yep, they're setting us all up to break laws! 400 pages of "explanation" on one fire arms law? The laws are completely out of control! There needs to be a limit ffs!
They are making laws with monetary infringements and possible imprisonment and rights taken.
Yup
This is all for show, so you can feel better. They'll be dining & wining together after this "grilling".
ATF turned off power to the house, taped over cameras, and then Broke in.
Said Police.
{Just What a Home Envader Would Do.}
How is the ATF still a part of our government
Administrative acting as legislature with executive approval.
You know, everybody doesn't like guns, however, when we defund the police, people like to feel safe, they buy more guns, so I am saying defunding the police is counter intuitive.
@@virginiashirley4139the Democrat tactic is to take away weapons and police.. we need more of both
What makes you think they are? Seems like they're acting as their own govt.
Look at Waco absolute power corrupts. How is it that everyone has forgotten. It was common knowledge that the Sheriff could have arrested David Korish without incident. But o no, the ATF wanted to use force. Just how did that go. Answer NOT TO GOOD.
And this is the head of the ATF.We are in bad need of intelligent leadership.
Well, he's a peach compared to Mayorcas!
Sounds like a criminal trying to defend himself on a witness stand and is purposely evading the questions.
Diabolical.
He seems unintelligent because he is being deceptive and ambiguous to hide his true intentions. He cannot be honest and successfully steal our rights.
From this administration? this is exactly what happens when you have illegitimate leadership, complete incompetence
The ATF needs to be abolished. 😡
Absolutely! They're out if control!
Ahyup
@@Tracey-cg8vvAbsolutely!
Never should have been created.
There is no constitutional authority for this rogue agency to exist.
🙌
Every one of these people who refuse to answer a simple question should be dismissed immediately and charged with any crimes available for their actions. Just a huge waste of time and our money.
Absolutely Agree.
No more Hard questions... Only handing out HARD TIME in FEDERAL PRISON for these Criminal ATF people that think they are above the LAW and the Constitution.
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This is all for show, so you can feel better. They'll be dining & wining together after this "grilling".
Constitutionally vague and obscure. Unconstitutional.
This is ridiculous. The ATF is wrong to do this law abiding citizens.
The ATF its self is illegal.
Don't use the term law abiding. You can be made a felon overnight by the stroke of a pen. Say "peaceable citizen" instead. It is what we used to say before there was an effort by certain 3 letter agencies to make the term "law abiding" a common phrase relating to gun ownership.
Well they do what they do because we allow them to get away with it
@@GuyIncognito-mw8mr What will it take to not allow it? If the other politicians we would vote for do nothing Law En-Farce-Ment does nothing the DOJ does nothing what is left after that? We know and it is socially taboo to talk about it.
Yeah 400 pages and intentionally made vague as hell. Unbelievable that the ATF is allowed to get by with this crap.
that way you can prosecute enemies and shield friends
seriously, how is the common citizen, who has their own job and family, supposed to be reading 400 page documents for goverment's way off applying to 1 small sliver of their lives? we're all over-governed, and over-regulated. these lawyers just make everything convoluted and confuse us into oblivion, while enhancing their own positions as 'officials'
@@joshlcaudill Yep you gotta it brother. So damn unbelievable they can get away with this kinda of crap. But hell this is just the tip of the iceberg,,, I’m sure you’ve seen all the radical nut jobs that will soon be judges? The perfect storm for a full tyrannical country in the making. And we all have front row seats.
It's the whole deep state federal gov. We need Trump so badly
Never a common sense or understandable answer! Bereft of morals or knowledge of ATF’s rules!
The ATF needs to be shut down
This stuff is so infuriating- these people who come before these committees NEVER give a straight answers or even say”We were wrong”. It’s so obvious they are.
The point of these hearings is to make the public aware. No justice will be had here- you are expected to watch these and get involved.
Because it's all bread and circus. It's just a show to appease the people. To pacify the possibility of a revolt.
STOP TALKING REMOVE HIM AND DISBAND THE ATF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trump will make some changes to the FBI, ATF, CIA and some other out of control govt. agencies. Can't wait til November when we get rid of the demented tyrant currently in office.
If they weren't disbanded after Waco, Ruby Ridge, Fast and Furious, etc..... they never will be.
They don't have the authority, or, More Than Likely, The Guts, Either.....Sadly
@@jeremyweems4916 That's The Spirit!!!
Isn't Apathy a wonderful thing???
It requires No Effort, but leaves one free to Complain Incessantly, without lifting a finger
@@dwightcurrie8316😂😂BURNNNN…🔥well this ain’t Waco-now the Govt is the terrorist organization NOW!
Defund all 3 letter agencies
and 4 letter agencies, and especially the 5 letter agencies (BATFE)
agree the FBI, DOJ , ATF etc all work for the Biden administration and just like Biden they all appear to be corrupt
Shut down the criminal ATF creeps sneaking around trying to close down small gun owners
DISBAND THE ATF NOW!
ATF turned off power to the house, taped over cameras, and then Broke in.
Said Police.
{Just What a Home Envader Would Do.}
What gives an agency the right to elaborate on law? None!
Impeach the ATF director!!
You misspelled "abolish the atf, imprison every atf agent, especially the director that has lied to congress on multiple occasions, and repeal all gun laws because they're infringements on our right to bear arms."
@@Razgriz85 thanks for fixing my misspelling.😁
@@beaufred07it's the right thought that counts, maybe they're an ocd English teacher, but they feel better now
But the ATF Director isn't an elected official, therefore cannot be impeached but can ne fired.
FIRED HIM!
Not a single question was answered. Looks like a typical Congressional hearing. It’s no wonder we look at these people with such contempt.
so how is the ATF continually allowed to circumvent the law and the constitution without any consequences!?!
Easy. Have a compromised do nothing government.
Because on the one hand the government wants to take away gun rights. On the other hand they want to appear to be champions fighting for our freedom to own guns. It's all just a show.
Convoluted laws need immediate rejection. Define it or reject it. That is the law. ATF is illegal.
There is not one single federal agency that is not corrupt
"Federal" and "corrupt" mean the same thing.
This is all for show, so you can feel better.
They'll be dining & wining together after this "grilling" session.
So the ATF director didn't answer any questions
And we expected what?
@@patrickgriffitt6551 Just more gibberish.
Surprised??
They never do.
"It depends"
Watched all of it. The ATF needs to be defunded.
Government is compromised and won’t do shit about this
They make it vague so they can arrest anyone they wish…
and 400 pages long so no one will read it.
Einstein said if you can’t explain it plainly then you don’t understand it.
If you can't answer the question you can't do the job
Honest answers are straight forward. You give answers like this when your hiding or covering up what your really up to.
If the director of the ATF cannot articulate what the law that takes 16 pages to write how in gods green earth will the normal person ever be able to navigate this law.
They don't want them to, thats the point.
Exactly correct!
They're not, they want us to break their contrived laws so they can scare the rest of us into compliance and subjugation.
Yes it should be void for vagueness under ex post facto
That's the point. The ATF gets to decide how it's interpreted for each incident.
The infringements on the second amendment must stop! We have the right to keep and bare arms period end of story!
You have a right to wear short sleeves.
What does the right to bear arms really mean? The right to bear arms generally refers to a person's right to possess weapons. Over the years, the Supreme Court has interpreted the Constitution's right to bear arms as an individual self-defense right, making it very difficult for Congress to regulate guns.
@@REDMAN298 No, the right to possess is the KEEP part of "keep and bear". The bear part means to carry on their person. The second amendment grants the people the right to own and carry on their person armaments (the weapons, ammunition, and materials necessary to conduct warfare). We keep watering it down to a gun issue, but realistically people owned warships, field artillery, and explosives in addition to firearms. To borrow the words of one who lived during the drafting of these amendments "...Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." - Tench Coxe
@@Echo_Charlie Nice! I haven't seen that one.
“The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all
power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by
themselves; that it is their right
and duty to be at all times armed.” - Thomas Jefferson,
letter to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824
“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include,
according to the past and general usage of the states, all men
capable of bearing arms… “To preserve liberty, it is essential
that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught
alike, especially when young, how to use them.” - Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18,
January 25, 1788
“The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States
who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” - Samuel
Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788
“The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the
palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong
moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and
will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance,
enable the people to resist and triumph over them.” - Joseph
Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833
@@ray.shoesmith It's a burden we bear.
DEFUND ATF
ATF defund defund defund delete delete delete
I can swear that this man came to the hearing drunk. He cannot answer simple questions. The ATF needs to be shut down
The director should know the law that he is supposed to enforce
"Behavior based, not numerical based." Which means the ATF can pick and choose who it applies to at their discretion.
The real question is what are real people in the real world supposed to do to remain safe and legal, but the ATF can only address it in abstract and theoretical terms. The ATF is completely detached from real-world behavior and consequences.
Exactly
Hopefully justice will prevail. Save taxpayers money and live. ATF is the Presidents hit squad..
Exactly
We desperately need at least a third party with enough seats in congress and the Senate to break the monopoly the Democrats and Republicans have created. Our founding fathers literally warned us against allowing a 2 party system to come to power
Residents hit squad,NOT MY PRESIDENT EVER
FJB
None of them will ever answer the questions
I am in favor of Congress making the laws and a reduced ATF enforcing them. We are getting a bit of heavy with ATF people and I don't think they need to be telling us what to do with the weapons we owned
Has there ever been a question answered in a congress hearing?
No, because everything they do is illegal. If you watch enough of these, all they do is go around the questions or say "we'll get back to you"
@@virtuaguyverify Yes. This cannot continue or democracy will perish.
Never.
When a law becomes too convoluted to be understood by a normal citizen, it is unlawful.
Any infringement is already expressly unlawful, as stated by the Bill of Rights.
@@LRRPFco52 that poorly punctuated, incompletely thought-out statement that got adopted as the 2nd Amendment.
@@rickgilbrt If someone has convinced you of the illegitimatacy of the Bill of Rights based on their understanding of English grammar in 2024, you should purge that source from your perspective and go study 180 years of Supreme Court rulings on the issue.
@@LRRPFco52I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic
“A Law repugnant to the Constitution is void.” Marbury v. Madison, Supreme Court (1803)
"My position is that I don't have a position. It's all written down."
This dude needs to get life in prison. Always beating around the question and not answering at all
The ATF needs to go away!
Ysll need to shut them down. We follow laws not rules from the aft.
Their interpretation is based on whether they don't like the person, the product, or the situation of the transaction, to be able to fit it into the regulation as illegal
I can't even watch this. Despicable!
They waited for him, that wasn’t necessary for a search……
The ATF needs to be held accountable and explain why?!
We as gun owners have to know all the laws in what ever state we are in. Carry, no carry, guns in cars guns not in cars. Stand your ground can’t stand your ground, pistol grips, no pistol grips, magazine capacity limits, no magazine capacity limits. Pistol brace, no pistol brace. Am I a gun dealer or am I not a gun dealer? Sickening
We want justice!!!
ATF laws seem to be so ambiguous even the ATF can't explain what they are. Ridiculous!
Steve speaks with forked tongue!
why repeat what Gaetz already said and not just answer the question.
Hes filibustering. Bureaucrats should not be allowed to filibuster. This is 100% US Congress's fault.
#DEFUND ATF
Why can’t these bureaucrats be honest? Because they don’t know what honesty is.
ATF: writes draconian rule w/o clear language.
Courts: you can’t do that. Not what Congress intended. Blocked.
Congress: tell us about this rule, it’s murky, not what we intended & you will abuse it.
ATF: can’t discuss pending court case.
What a 3-Card Monty!
Disgusting
He dances. He is a coward to tell the truth
All bureaucrats are cowards.
Less than 1% of Americans have watched this. Very sad to see how little people care about their rights.
so is he blaming congress for this man's murder?
I hope when President Trump gets back in he looks at the three letter agencies !
Yes! All of them.
oh he will
he will try to strengthen their immunity so they'll never be held accountable
Yes, he should go back to his time on The Apprentice, "You're FIRED!" ATF, FBI, CIA, NSA, IRS, DEA, DHS, fire them all and start over.
He won’t do jack shit. He spoke at the NRA last week and said “I protected your right to hunt”. He thinks 2A is about hunting and not the reason it’s actually written.
This ATF director’s body language and speech is so child like. I’m sure he acts like a badass in his office.
No rule or law should be no longer then three pages.
Defund the ATF
Liberal blah, blah, blah and nothing gets said. #wordsalad
Disband the ATF.
Make Law and put them out of business.
This is how *shall not be infringed* has become today.
Can’t believe these people aren’t thinking about the millions watching unbelievable
Was at a gun show a few weeks ago. Had two guns sold to two different people. Wanted to do it right so I went to an FFL who had always offered to do background checks if I needed it.
Now he "couldn't" do it because ATF said he would be "aiding and abetting".
Went to 3 other ffls I know and a few I don't know.
They all gave me the same excuse.
So what's a guy to do?
Wait, you wanted an FFL to middle a transfer and that's illegal now? My state literally requires that FFLs middle private transfers (effectively banning private transfers).
That's right,skinny.
I'm not sure if they're being told not to by ATF,or they're just scared to get involved.
I might add that none of the FFLs at the shows will sell to a private seller like me because they're afraid I may turn around and try to flip it right away.
.
I hope this goes viral, people need to know ATF are extremist, and do what ever they wish.
You ever notice these guys can never give a straight answer
This is what a murderer sounds like.
Disband this criminal organization
Congress just needs to get down to business and strip ALL authority from the ATF other than simply keeping records. Strip rulemaking authority, strip authority to interpret rules, strip all ENFORCEMENT authority.
That man had every right to protect his house. They should be sued, sued,sued, and personally sued also, get a good lawyer lady.
Send em all to jail.
How does a regular citizen even know if they are breaking the law?
Does anybody else out there that's been fired from a job for an absolute bullshit reason find irony in the fact these people that have been drilled by the investigative committee for stuff we would never dream of doing still have their jobs and a taxpayer funded paycheck in most cases?
i was fired for not allowing myself to be a big pharma guinea pig.. the most bullshit of all reasons.. and i have to watch this slime day in and day out, get away with it..
The idea is to make the explanation so confusing and vague, that you are afraid to participate in any transaction without going to an FFL holder to interpret the transaction
Damn it what the hell this is the United States get rid of the ATF, simple defund
This guy shouldn’t manage an ice-cream stand !
Defund the ATF let the states make their own rules
Some states are worse. Don't vote democratic if you value your rights.
Defund
That director is corrupt and dirty. Period.
That guy needs to be in front of the group who wants to disarm us. I bet hell chicken out.😅😂😅
Once again a federal "leader" cannot snswer the simplest of questions.
The remedy is Unconstitutional!
This guy hasn't answered a single question since he was put in this position. If you were to ask him what he just had for lunch you would get a fifteen minute filibuster and still no answer to a simple question.
I refer you to the thousand resturant menues in DC and the content index of my fridge to find out what I had for lunch...
This should be all over the news. Not just on a random RUclips algorithm.
If only the atf spent some time and effort into fighting illegal firearms amongst inner city gangs… crazy…
as much as i appreciate congress trying to do something, its useless and futile to continue talking to this man. he doesnt care what congress thinks, he knows they dont like what he's doing and he keeps doing it anyways. action not words.
How in the world does a subject rule permit a no knock warrant. So basically when the ATF feels like it. Got it
Anything to avoid answering the question.
He just says so casually "Look up the brief". Not everyone spends hours navigating government pages.
Please put this man in jail!!!
If you yhink about selling a gun your in trouble. WTF?
Why is Congress asking what laws he's using and clarity the fing law!
Gotta box this guy into a corner whether he has participated in these policy changes of ATF. Has this guy changed policy that exceeded the law? If he has, he’s a criminal.
The director should be in jail "forever!"