Wife Of The Conqueror, Queen of England | Matilda of Flanders | PART 1

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

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  • @armyveteran101st
    @armyveteran101st 3 месяца назад +19

    Matilda of Flanders is my 27th great grandmother... Thank you for this interesting video!

  • @daya820
    @daya820 8 месяцев назад +80

    I am glad to hear her story, there aren’t many real biographies of noble women of period. Thank you for bringing Matilda to life. Fascinating story.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 8 месяцев назад +2

      That's a terrible shame that there aren't any biographies of matilda of flanders.

    • @Butterflypegasus40
      @Butterflypegasus40 3 месяца назад

      Bet she was better at ruling than her husband.

    • @RavenIdril2966
      @RavenIdril2966 3 месяца назад

      @@daya820 matilda could have given later queens schooling in being a boss woman.

  • @kathleenmccrory9883
    @kathleenmccrory9883 8 месяцев назад +63

    Women in her time had tricky lives. She seems to have been lucky in both her spouse and her health. I'm looking forward to part 2. Thank you for sharing.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад +8

      Thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊Part 2 is underway right now...

    • @jackiehiracheta180
      @jackiehiracheta180 8 месяцев назад +7

      Love these videos

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@HistorysForgottenPeople as anyone done a movie or mini series about them?

    • @dead2802
      @dead2802 3 месяца назад

      ​@@lilacgirl-z8w Never heard of one!

    • @RavenIdril2966
      @RavenIdril2966 3 месяца назад

      @@kathleenmccrory9883 wouldn't you like a tv series on this woman?

  • @madelinevanderbunny607
    @madelinevanderbunny607 8 месяцев назад +50

    Fantastic video about a woman who like most medieval women, even the powerful and influential ones, is too often overlooked by history in favor of her powerful husband. Can't wait for part 2.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад +10

      Thank you! I'm hard at work on Part 2 right now. ☺It's really surprising how easily overlooked Matilda is, especially as William ensured his own lifetime that she was very publicly seen with him on most things, albeit mostly because of her ancestry.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 3 месяца назад +2

      Having a husband like William she had to have an iron backbone.

  • @JangianTV
    @JangianTV 8 месяцев назад +59

    The Conqueror's wife and consort was quite the character! Look forward to the rest of this series. 😊

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад +7

      Honestly, I think I would have been a little scared of her and very much in awe had I been alive then. Part 2 is well under way for you guys! 😊

    • @JangianTV
      @JangianTV 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@HistorysForgottenPeople Yes, very formidable! Look forward to Pt 2. 😅

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 8 месяцев назад

      Is Flanders today a part of France or Netherlands ?

    • @aidanhschofield
      @aidanhschofield 8 месяцев назад

      @@lilacgirl-z8w Belgium

    • @RavenIdril2966
      @RavenIdril2966 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@HistorysForgottenPeople could you do her ancestor Judith of Flanders?

  • @tatianacalin8697
    @tatianacalin8697 8 месяцев назад +48

    Such a beautiful love story. William has chosen her as his wife himself initially because of her good lineage (he was a bastard in the sense that vikings used to have more than a wife during those times and he was a concubine's son) to gain legitimacy, but ended up by madly falling in love with her. Mathilde was a force to reckon with in her own right, and ruled over Normandy in his name while William was consolidating his power in England. The historians of the time describe William as fierce and cruel and yet there are records saying that he was seen crying for the first and last time in public, at his wife's funeral. After her death he gave up worlds affairs and lived in isolation. He died in a few years after her. A political marriage which turned into a love story. I'd like to see a movie made about them.

    • @velvetindigonight
      @velvetindigonight 8 месяцев назад +9

      Sometimes the ‘gems’ in the comment section are well worth searching for! Thank you

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 8 месяцев назад +5

      It would be an interesting historic love story to watch on screen.

    • @zoetropo1
      @zoetropo1 8 месяцев назад

      William’s last five years were not like that at all! He remained so belligerent that it killed him.

    • @susanr3055
      @susanr3055 4 месяца назад

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    • @Butterflypegasus40
      @Butterflypegasus40 3 месяца назад

      Marrying her was William's greatest idea.

  • @laurap6534
    @laurap6534 8 месяцев назад +93

    William did not beat Matilda to within an inch of her life, and that made her want to marry him . That is a fantasy written by a male person .

    • @Sfu1751
      @Sfu1751 7 месяцев назад

      Aww did you get triggered and get your panties twisted over the story?😂😂😂 He certainly could have beat her ass as this isn’t some female made movie with her fantasy of a girl boss that can kick ass

    • @laurap6534
      @laurap6534 7 месяцев назад +7

      I'm curious why it was even included it is obviously not true

    • @errorsinconduct
      @errorsinconduct 7 месяцев назад

      @@laurap6534 probably so that when someone googles her, they know not to trust that story

    • @dianahaugh7521
      @dianahaugh7521 7 месяцев назад +10

      Four contemporary chronicles include it. I think it was more likely that some tumultuous sex was taking place and it was reported as a beating

    • @nancymoore1240
      @nancymoore1240 6 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@laurap6534
      Could have been an attempt to slur William.

  • @anweshabiswas1483
    @anweshabiswas1483 8 месяцев назад +51

    After her death , William was inconsolable, he restrained from his favourite sport hunting and all the women from his court . Very sad
    😢😢

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад +15

      That's true! I think he was very devoted to her, and they were absolutely in love.

    • @anweshabiswas1483
      @anweshabiswas1483 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@HistorysForgottenPeople yes absolutely even after a rocky start

    • @Butterflypegasus40
      @Butterflypegasus40 8 месяцев назад +2

      Do we know what she looked like?

    • @anweshabiswas1483
      @anweshabiswas1483 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@Butterflypegasus40 she was of short stature compared to her husband , who was 5 foot 10 inches .

    • @Gaeliclass
      @Gaeliclass 8 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@Butterflypegasus40
      It was said she was around 5 ft and was beautiful. She was also very healthy, at least in the years she bore all those children!

  • @happinessforeverandalways
    @happinessforeverandalways 8 месяцев назад +39

    damn, even a thousand years later were still hearing about her rejection 😔

  • @zackhalter9571
    @zackhalter9571 8 месяцев назад +27

    I have always found this woman interesting!Great video🎉

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊 Matilda was such an interesting person, and she's been on my list a LOOONG time - so I thought I'd better get on with her video!

    • @RavenIdril2966
      @RavenIdril2966 8 месяцев назад +1

      I wonder if she preferred matilda or maud?

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 3 месяца назад

      @@zackhalter9571 which did she like better england or flanders?

    • @zackhalter9571
      @zackhalter9571 3 месяца назад

      ​@@lilacgirl-z8wI would say Flanders because I believed she spent more time on the continent instead of England but I'm just making a educated guess

  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb 8 месяцев назад +14

    I know that “Mother of the Conqueror” video is somewhere on the horizon! Love your videos! Thank you

    • @Butterflypegasus40
      @Butterflypegasus40 8 месяцев назад +2

      Do you think matilda was a supporter of the conquering of England.

    • @Andy_Babb
      @Andy_Babb 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@Butterflypegasus40 which Matilda lol

    • @zoetropo1
      @zoetropo1 8 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@Butterflypegasus40Absolutely: she paid for the building of the fleet’s flagship, the Mora.

    • @zoetropo1
      @zoetropo1 8 месяцев назад +1

      Herleva?

    • @Andy_Babb
      @Andy_Babb 8 месяцев назад

      @@zoetropo1 ah! just making sure… there were SO many Matilda’s! lol I would think she would have been a supporter of that, yes. I think glory and honor were so important to people of that period that she would have not only supported it, but probably believed it was necessary. To be fair, I’m just spitballing - I’m still working on learning that part of Norman British history

  • @Sciencegrinds
    @Sciencegrinds 8 месяцев назад +15

    Georgette Heyer write a great historical novel, well researched, called "The Conquerer". I recommend it.

  • @AncestorArchaeologist-ce4mf
    @AncestorArchaeologist-ce4mf 7 месяцев назад +37

    Matilda is my 27th great-grandmother. Her son, Henry I of England, married a Matilda, who was the daughter of Malcolm III, King of Scotland. Henry & Matilda had a daughter named Matilda, who married Henry V, King of Germany & later named Holy Roman Emperor. They had no children, and when he died, she was remarried to Geoffrey Plantagenet, known as 'The Handsome', who was 12 years her junior and said to have strawberry-blond hair. Through their son, Henry II of England, began the Plantagenet dynasty which ruled England for the next 300 years.

    • @jhorton64va
      @jhorton64va 7 месяцев назад +7

      Matilda is my 24th great-grandmother.

    • @gogreen7794
      @gogreen7794 7 месяцев назад

      Probably 90% of people with European DNA are descended from William and Matilda, or at least William....

    • @trishac4267
      @trishac4267 7 месяцев назад +8

      She’s in my family tree as well.

    • @AncestorArchaeologist-ce4mf
      @AncestorArchaeologist-ce4mf 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@jhorton64va Nice! We are distant cousins! 😉

    • @AncestorArchaeologist-ce4mf
      @AncestorArchaeologist-ce4mf 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@trishac4267 That makes us all distant cousins! 😉

  • @ViVaCiousLuff
    @ViVaCiousLuff 8 месяцев назад +17

    In southeast asia we have the Bird's eye chilli or "cili padi" in the local language, known for being a miniature version of the chilli peppers but packing in high levels of spiciness! Over here Matilda would have the nickname "kecil-kecil cili padi" which basically translates to small but formidable like Bird's eye chilli. Watching this truly reminded me of that idiom 🤭

  • @Weeeewriter
    @Weeeewriter 8 месяцев назад +22

    Wow, she was spectacular!!

  • @carolshannon6449
    @carolshannon6449 8 месяцев назад +9

    There is a very well-done novelized version of the story of William the Conqueror (that was the title) by Georgette Heyer, which includes the courtship of William and Mathilda, anyone who enjoys this video would probably enjoy it, as well. Based on extensive historical research and written in the 1950s. Just a really well-written story that reads very naturally. This is a great video, too!

    • @Thepourdeuxchanson
      @Thepourdeuxchanson 4 месяца назад

      I agree - a very good novel. But in it, Matilda is a widow, so I don't know. Heyer was famously accurate when it came to what was historically known. Here, however, Matilda had not been previously married. I'm inclined to think Heyer had it right in "The Conqueror."

    • @Butterflypegasus40
      @Butterflypegasus40 3 месяца назад

      William certainly outlived Matilda.

    • @RavenIdril2966
      @RavenIdril2966 3 месяца назад

      @@carolshannon6449 what would history be like if matilda had outlived william?

  • @joepratte727
    @joepratte727 8 месяцев назад +8

    i have recently been learning about the women in my ancestoral line. thank you for this one.

  • @belgone2001
    @belgone2001 8 месяцев назад +5

    My XXXXX great grandmother, this exploration is appreciated.

  • @cathyhendrix7552
    @cathyhendrix7552 8 месяцев назад +28

    I love history. Especially medieval England. I can barely wait for the next video!!! I'm so excited. 🤓

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊I hope you like Part 2 just as much.

    • @cathyhendrix7552
      @cathyhendrix7552 8 месяцев назад +3

      @HistorysForgottenPeople I have no doubts that I will enjoy part 2 just as much as part 1. I'm so happy that I found you're channel. I love your content and the especially the illustrations and artwork. I've ALWAYS tried to picture what the people looked like. I know there are contemporary paintings. But they are mostly flat 1 dimensional and hard to imagine it. And quite a few of the kings look alike and hard to tell apart. At least for me. Paintings have come a long way. LOL. Thank you very much for all of your hard work and dedication and effort that goes into a RUclips channel. Please keep them coming.

    • @Butterflypegasus40
      @Butterflypegasus40 3 месяца назад

      Flanders has such a rich history.

  • @helpinyerdasellavon
    @helpinyerdasellavon 8 месяцев назад +10

    Thank you for this beautiful video on Matilda of Flanders. Love to know more about remarkable female historical figures and their challenges they faced in medieval times, can't wait for part 2. Excellent work as always ❤👑

    • @RavenIdril2966
      @RavenIdril2966 8 месяцев назад +1

      Matilda seemed unusually powerful for a married woman in my opinion.

  • @sherrylelee8274
    @sherrylelee8274 8 месяцев назад +12

    Matilda of Flanders was one of my 24th Great Grandmothers - Thank you for your post on her 🌹

    • @henryruggles7523
      @henryruggles7523 8 месяцев назад +1

      It seems you may be a distant cousin to our family. Do you have any Dudley's or Suttons, Grey or Neville or Beaufort in your ancestry?

    • @staceylseal
      @staceylseal 8 месяцев назад

      Any Granvilles in your tree?

    • @henryruggles7523
      @henryruggles7523 8 месяцев назад

      @@staceylseal do you have a first name for the Granville you are referring to and a time period please?

    • @staceylseal
      @staceylseal 8 месяцев назад

      @@henryruggles7523 John Henry Granville born in 1911. Supposedly. His date of birth is in question because he changed it to join the service. He was born at Hampton Court. I don't know if that's true because I don't have a birth certificate for him.

  • @Laramaria2
    @Laramaria2 8 месяцев назад +34

    Imagine if William just went to the church to meet her and screamed at the top of his lungs that he wanted her and no other, then he just pulled her close to him to declare his love again and maybe wanted hug or something, but pulled her with too much strength and she fell on the mud, then he tried to help her up but she got stuck and it turned into this huge gossip that he dragged her and harmed her 😅
    Anyway, for how important she was in English history, she's definitely overlooked. She was a great ally to William and deserves more credit.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад +14

      Oh my goodness, I love that, haha! This idea that William was actually just a big teddy-bear completely romantically in love with her, but in order to keep up his fearsome reputation elsewhere, his men were all,
      "No, he didn't do that! He...er...dragged her into the mud and...and..."
      "Beat her up!"
      "What the-? Geoffrey, that's a bit much, isn't it?"
      "No, look, they're loving it!"
      "Ah...yeah, that's exactly how it happened. Yanked down by her pigtails and beaten up. Won her right over."

    • @CDredhead1028
      @CDredhead1028 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@HistorysForgottenPeopleTotally read that in a Monty Python voice…

    • @RavenIdril2966
      @RavenIdril2966 8 месяцев назад +1

      I wonder if matilda actually wanted to be with william?

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 4 месяца назад

      ​@@HistorysForgottenPeoplewill you ever do edward the confessor?

  • @bistrastoimenovaphotography
    @bistrastoimenovaphotography 8 месяцев назад +8

    Can't wait! Didn't know a thing about this amazing lady❤

  • @Prince-of-Whales666
    @Prince-of-Whales666 8 месяцев назад +8

    Loving this !!! Can’t wait for part 2

  • @elizabethhannah4704
    @elizabethhannah4704 7 месяцев назад +3

    Thank You. I really appreciate and enjoyed your video. History is fascinating and we can learn a great deal from it.

  • @annacalifornia6498
    @annacalifornia6498 8 месяцев назад +15

    She was the lioness. And the reason why she agreed to marry him even after he allegedly attacked her. That's because she knew that that was a strong man and in the land surrounded by warriors and everything else. She needed a strong man for her husband and plus she knew that she could control him. So internal strength, internal width and make everybody think that her ideas are their ideas

    • @outlawJosieFox
      @outlawJosieFox 5 месяцев назад

      I agree that she needed a 'strong man', but this does seem to have been a love match, I think later historians maybe didn't much like the conquerer and this was a slur.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 3 месяца назад

      I bet she knew swordship and archery.

  • @madelinevanderbunny607
    @madelinevanderbunny607 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks!

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much! I hope you enjoyed the video, this one has been a long time in coming! 😊

  • @lilliantanasijevic7852
    @lilliantanasijevic7852 8 месяцев назад +4

    Loved this! ❤

  • @patriciayohn6136
    @patriciayohn6136 8 месяцев назад +7

    May I suggest a video on Beatrice of Burgundy, second Wife of Friedrich Der Barbarossa, Holy Roman Emperor.

    • @shinjineesen400
      @shinjineesen400 8 месяцев назад +1

      A formidable woman, contemporaneous to Eleanor of Aquitaine. She had descendants through two sons.

  • @hannahvallar7939
    @hannahvallar7939 8 месяцев назад +7

    Really enjoyed hearing about a piece of history of which I knew very little.

  • @MichelleBruce-lo4oc
    @MichelleBruce-lo4oc 8 месяцев назад +4

    Hi, awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you and Mallard your cat doing? How is the weather where you are? I'm doing well and so is my cat Benjamin. We both enjoy watching your live history videos. We have beautiful warm weather in Ontario Canada. In the next video in the future could you do King Stephen the first he was King of England in the 11 hundreds. Have a great day see you next video. HAPPY VICTORIA DAY WEEKEND TO YOU. 😊

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад

      Hi Michelle, we're good! Glad to hear you and Benjamin are doing well. 😊 Our weather's cooled a little again, so hopefully we get some of your warmer weather soon! I might do something on King Stephen - there's a little bit about him in my Empress Matilda videos as well, thought obviously not just on him.

  • @margheritatimeus3400
    @margheritatimeus3400 8 месяцев назад +12

    They must be a singular spectacle to see, he very tall, illiterate and bossy, She very short, cultivated and kind. And however One of the most formidable couple in history, the Conqueror would have been that without her...

  • @chrisbanion
    @chrisbanion 8 месяцев назад +18

    Mothers as a moral compass, what a concept.

  • @rafaelmodest1
    @rafaelmodest1 8 месяцев назад +10

    Mathilde was great great great great great grand daughter of Alfred .

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 7 месяцев назад +4

    There was another very famous Mathilda who lived exactly at this time and that was Mathilda of Canossa who ruled huge sections of northern Italy - this Mathilda is reputed to have personally led armies into battle!

  • @zoetropo1
    @zoetropo1 8 месяцев назад +5

    The Register of the Honour of Richmond thanks Matilda for persuading King William to grant Earl Edwin’s Yorkshire lands to Alan Rufus, the Breton who was the commander of the royal cavalry.

  • @rochellewhitwell3987
    @rochellewhitwell3987 14 дней назад

    My 30th grandmother. From my Dad's ( Maldon Whitwell) Mother's (Nana nee Alma Norgate). I'm just discovering so much about these amazing women i can claim as my and my daughter's ancestory ...I'm so interested in the woman's story. ...

  • @RoyPounsford
    @RoyPounsford 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wonderful video.

  • @gorettyrogers7109
    @gorettyrogers7109 8 месяцев назад +4

    I remember reading a book about Matilda of Flanders in the early 90s..i can't remember the title.

    • @Butterflypegasus40
      @Butterflypegasus40 8 месяцев назад +1

      Isn't there any movies or mini series about her and William?

    • @RBS.23
      @RBS.23 8 месяцев назад

      Was it 'Wife of the Conqueror ' or something like that?

  • @lfgifu296
    @lfgifu296 8 месяцев назад +7

    oooh how much I missed earlier Medieval History🙏🙏
    I’ve real mixed feelings about Matilda. On the one hand, she is admirable and was a great supporter to William, which brings me to what puts me on the fence about her- William👹 I haven’t finished the video yet (it’s been 5 minutes lol), but from the little I know (or think I know) about her she didn’t oppose the harrying of the North and even accompanied him (again, this may well not be true). Ik a Queen’s duty was to support her husband, but when his desire was so violent, some goodness could be expected🥲
    They did love, or, at least liked each other quite a lot, so I think she could have tried to soften his ideas without much fear of being mistreated.
    Still, she is admirable, and her story is gonna be great to hear!!🙏
    Have a nice week :))

    • @DarthDread-oh2ne
      @DarthDread-oh2ne 8 месяцев назад +2

      Hi friend ! Who is your favorite king before William the Conqueror ?

    • @lfgifu296
      @lfgifu296 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@DarthDread-oh2neHello :) It’s my fav English monarch, Alfred the Great! What about you?

    • @DarthDread-oh2ne
      @DarthDread-oh2ne 8 месяцев назад

      🤔 you can’t go 😑 with Alfred the great.😊

    • @lfgifu296
      @lfgifu296 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@DarthDread-oh2ne ooh why not🥲? He may not have ruled over the whole of modern England but he started it, and I believe that, had he lived longer, he would’ve seen it- maybe not finished but close-.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад +2

      You're not wrong, there may be a VERY different view of her in the next video! You know how I feel about the harrying of the North LOL. But I think she was a very strong person, brought up in her time with those expectations, and there were maybe times when she didn't want to go against William. Certainly not perfect, that's for sure! But still admirable.

  • @corvettedm1
    @corvettedm1 8 месяцев назад +7

    I think Mathilda is a beautiful name indeed.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 3 месяца назад

      How it was pronounced back then probably sounded more prettier.

    • @TracyJean1972
      @TracyJean1972 5 дней назад

      I think the people of the age thought so too, as it was a very popular name back then.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot 8 месяцев назад +5

    The medieval dress code for Flanders the Flanders sweater😂

  • @jackbuckley7816
    @jackbuckley7816 8 месяцев назад +2

    We can't even begin to know what life in those times were like, though I, as a big history buff, have been trying for decades! Except for William I & the Norman Conquest of England, I'm rather weak on this period, especially the noblewomen. Yes, I know most people wouldn't trade their lives in modern times to live in a long-ago age like that of Matilda but I'm one of the few who would! There are many other epochs I'd love to have lived in as well, or at least travel back in time for as long as I choose, as I find the modern world extremely boring. I've long been fascinated by the Middle Ages but I think if I could choose, it would have to be the earliest of the medieval period, the so-called Dark Ages, which I believe were, in fact, very dark & dangerous indeed. The thought of experiencing a Viking raid thrills me no end! To spend time in one of the earliest Benedictine monasteries would be fascinating, too. What I'd love most, however, is to return to Dark Age England, that period when the Romans prepared to leave & then did so! Wow, simply fantastic to learn exactly what it was like. The Roman Empire fascinates me as much as the Middle Ages, especially the former's long decline as it morphed ever-so-gradually into the earliest centuries of the Dark Ages. If I could have only one wish as my heavenly reward, I think, for me, it would have to be the granting of my desire to see what some of those emperors really were like!

    • @lesaeckert4538
      @lesaeckert4538 8 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately, most of us would have born as serfs.

    • @jackbuckley7816
      @jackbuckley7816 8 месяцев назад

      @@lesaeckert4538 For me, it might be worth it!

  • @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n
    @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n 8 месяцев назад +6

    Formidable and short!

  • @Butterflypegasus40
    @Butterflypegasus40 8 месяцев назад +5

    I heard matilda of Flanders was a formidable woman.

  • @susanmercurio1060
    @susanmercurio1060 5 месяцев назад

    I read "The Conqueror" by Georgette Heyer, which goes through all of this.

  • @user39h2j8il
    @user39h2j8il Месяц назад

    Anyone else noticed how so many of the ancient royals had red hair? In the descriptions of them the hair colour is often referred to.

  • @rodmarker2071
    @rodmarker2071 7 месяцев назад +1

    Just goes to show the old adage "Behind every great dictator there is an even bigger Karen" 😂😂😂😂

  • @silverlow
    @silverlow 7 месяцев назад +1

    She was just a royal lady married for society power by her father. That is how royals are married to creat treatise between families. Most of the time women back than married whoever had more power and pull than her father and brothers.

  • @My2up2downCastle
    @My2up2downCastle 8 месяцев назад +2

    Can't find part 2!

    • @BSWVI
      @BSWVI 8 месяцев назад +3

      I think it comes out next Sunday May 26¡

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад +2

      This one has only just come out - Part 2 is out next Sunday! 😊

  • @CallemJayNZ
    @CallemJayNZ 8 месяцев назад +17

    Can't all of us with European ancestry claim descent from the Emperor Charlemagne?

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад +5

      Possibly! I think I read somewhere that if you look hard enough everyone with European ancestry is somehow related to William the Conqueror as well, but my family tree only ever has poor farmers on it, haha!

    • @The-One-True-Emperor
      @The-One-True-Emperor 8 месяцев назад +4

      Yes. Most Europeans, especially western and central, can claim 'Charlemagne, King of the Franks' as our closest royal ancestor. Those of Englishman descent can claim either 'Edward [Plantagenêt] I' or 'Edward [Plantagenêt] III.'

    • @charlesvigneron565
      @charlesvigneron565 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@HistorysForgottenPeople William descends from Charlemagne once by Pepin & Bernard. Matilda has four descents via Louis 'The Pious' and once from Alfred 'The Great'. All living Europeans are Charlemagne descendants several dozens to hundreds of times.
      Source: Royal Ancestry, Douglas Richardson, Vol. V, pp. 481-504.
      100,000,000,000 (one hundred billion) humans are estimated to have lived in the last 60,000 years. We accrue ancestors in a geometric progression by a factor of two : 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64... and Charlemagne is about 42 generations distant which, by simple addition, would give us 2,199,023,255,552 (two trillion+) ancestors.
      Humans Are All More Closely Related Than We Commonly Think
      Scientific American, Scott Hershberger, October 2, 2020

    • @rtalbeau7965
      @rtalbeau7965 8 месяцев назад +4

      😂😂Yes, I was pretty proud when I found out I was descended from him; but then I learned that you can basically pick up a random rock and throw it, and there’d be a high probability of you hitting a descendant of Charlemagne.😢 😂😂

    • @79klkw
      @79klkw 8 месяцев назад

      This is what I have heard. It would be fantastic to have his dna uploaded to a genetic genealogy database that deals with historical people. These sites exist, they are not very popular, and often times, students make databases related to archaic dna, on sites like gedmatch. Obviously genealogy isa hobby of mine.
      So you have me thinking, i am gonna go and look to see if we have Charlemagne's DNA anywhereto compare with!

  • @angietyndall7337
    @angietyndall7337 8 месяцев назад +4

    Not everyone can claim relationship to famous figures, but others actually are related to famous figures in history. As such, there are good and bad points to this imo.

    • @loislewis5229
      @loislewis5229 8 месяцев назад

      Oh but it makes history so much more meaningful when they’re your ancestors 😅

  • @willhovell9019
    @willhovell9019 Месяц назад

    Interesting narrative, but the use of late Middle Ages visuals is totally inappropriate.

  • @lfgifu296
    @lfgifu296 8 месяцев назад +2

    For the question, from the Historical people you’ve studied, who is the one you like the most? Those who are genuinely so good you find yourself awestruck by what they did. You can cheat here lol (I myself have like 5). (also I can’t be 100% sure if I’ve ever asked you this but I don’t recall it, so, hope I’m not repeating myself😭).
    For me it’s Katherine of Aragon, Emma of Normandy (as I once heard say, Emma was for Emma, which doesn’t score her that high in the kindness score, but her achievements were out of this world imo and hers is a story I’m always itching to tell), Alfred the Great and Belisarius.
    Honourable mention to Amélie of Orléans, I just didn’t include her bc I haven’t studied her enough to know for sure :)

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад +5

      LOL No worries, I wonder if I'm repeating myself all the time in my answers, so apologies if I do! 😂 My absolute favourite person of all history is Empress Matilda. I'm sure she did do bad stuff (we're all human) but her good stuff outweighs any not-so-good-things, and there's a lot of propaganda around her, and to be honest, my personality is very similar in being stubborn and very 'mama bear' as well. I would definitely kick off a 19-year-civil war for my crown, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing! 😂😂😂
      I also agree with you on Katherine of Aragon, and since studying her more closely, Anna of Cleves! Anna just seems like an all-round kind, clever, funny woman AND she liked to cook. I really like George III as well - I think he was overall a good king, and the fact he was such a family person is amazing considering his father and grandfather. I think you can tell I'm basically a sucker for anyone who is nice to their loved ones, haha! I also like Arthur (or Artie) Moore - I don't want to say too much as I've got a video planned in a few weeks for him, but basically he was a real inventor-type person who started from nothing in a small town in Wales, and ended up working for Marconi. 😊

  • @MatildeFerrer-d9d
    @MatildeFerrer-d9d 8 месяцев назад +4

    ❤❤❤❤❤amen

  • @beverlybalius9303
    @beverlybalius9303 8 месяцев назад +1

    They were really short in ancient times. The young today are a foot or 2 foot taller thanmy age group…

  • @robynw6307
    @robynw6307 8 месяцев назад +1

    How can someone who can read not be able to write? I don't understand. If anyone knows please educate me.

    • @kirstenberg6960
      @kirstenberg6960 8 месяцев назад +2

      They are different skills. If you don’t practice the skill of writing, or the materials are too expensive to provide to everyone in the family, it’s not a surprise she and many others only learned to read.
      In the same vein, listening and speaking a language are also two different skills. That’s why some children of immigrants born in a new land can grow up able to understand their parents’ language, but not being comfortable speaking more than a few words.
      This is also why, when formally leaning a new language, there are four different skill areas that need to be both taught and assessed: written comprehension (reading), written production (writing), oral production (speaking) and oral comprehension (listening).

    • @jonnarobinson7541
      @jonnarobinson7541 7 месяцев назад

      I studied French diligently for about five years from 2014 till 2019. French has many silent letters. I found that I could read, write, speak it in that order. I wasn’t adult and so I did not have the benefit of children hearing and speaking the language first. I am actually surprised that I can look at a word and determine if it is French in origin.

  • @diannegooding8733
    @diannegooding8733 8 месяцев назад +2

    Not surprising re Mathilda. Women like bad boys. William the Bastard was odds on! (Beauty and the Beast!)

  • @brianhodgson9547
    @brianhodgson9547 8 месяцев назад +2

    I've heard she got revenge on an English Noble that refused to marry her before she married William

  • @wiscochic861plutochic5
    @wiscochic861plutochic5 15 дней назад

    29th great grandma

  • @melissafoster9701
    @melissafoster9701 2 месяца назад

    This is where my ancestry starts

  • @Heothbremel
    @Heothbremel 8 месяцев назад +3

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @outlawJosieFox
    @outlawJosieFox 5 месяцев назад

    Wasn't Emma of Normandy the first Norman queen of England??

    • @cj-fi7kz
      @cj-fi7kz 4 месяца назад

      She was a queen consort to an Anglo saxon king. Matilda was the first queen consort to a Norman king.

  • @KandidWarrioroftheAges
    @KandidWarrioroftheAges Месяц назад

    after finding her at the top of my ancestry, the rest of my tree was a piece of cake

  • @11abrook
    @11abrook 8 месяцев назад +4

    Glad to know you are going to cover "harrying of the North" in the next video. Genocide. Nobles are not so noble after all. Is Matilda nothing more than a gansters moll? It would not be a nice time to be alive if you diagreed with William or Matilda.

  • @theoriginaltoba
    @theoriginaltoba 5 месяцев назад

    6:28 there was a set age for marriage: the legal age of 12, that was the minimum. The idea that there wasn’t is really just a myth.

  • @user39h2j8il
    @user39h2j8il Месяц назад

    Looking at the abbeys built by William, as one example, its safe to say humanity has regressed and become very dumbed down.

  • @kanaanthepersianprinceandf906
    @kanaanthepersianprinceandf906 8 месяцев назад +4

    Matilda was not the first Norman Queen of England. Emma of Normandy was. Getting simple facts like this wrong means the show loses all credibility and I just stop watching.

    • @annekeener4119
      @annekeener4119 4 месяца назад +1

      This. It’s also part of why Edward the Confessor offered the crown to William the Conqueror. Edward was the son of Emma of Normandy and William was the grandson of Emma’s brother. Add in Richard II and Robert I sheltering the various family members during the craziness that was English politics between Aethelred the Unready and Edward the Confessor taking the throne. Emma of Normandy was wife to two of the kings (Aethelred and Cnut), mother to two of the kings (Harthacnut and Edward the Confessor), step-mother to two of the kings (Edmund Ironsides and Harold Harefoot), and daughter-in-law to one of the kings (Sveyn Forkbeard). It was absolutely nuts. It’s a miracle Emma survived the repeated exiles and drama that kept happening at court.

  • @RobertTycenHauser
    @RobertTycenHauser 8 месяцев назад +2

    ❤❤❤!!

  • @isabellajones-hyde9194
    @isabellajones-hyde9194 7 месяцев назад +1

    Matilda and William were cousins, not even 2 minutes in and mistakes Flanders was not a Principality it was a County, You said Count of Flanders that should have given you the clue

  • @elijahhodges4405
    @elijahhodges4405 8 месяцев назад +2

    Matilda of Flanders was descended from Alfred the Great, and from Charlemagne. So why did England rebel against William? They should have thanked God they would have a Wessex king when he was dead.

    • @JupiterMuffles
      @JupiterMuffles 5 месяцев назад +1

      Doesn't matter considering he was a Norman. Knew no English, wasn't born in England, probably never set foot in England till his invasion. He was a foreigner with foreign ideals.

    • @elijahhodges4405
      @elijahhodges4405 5 месяцев назад

      @@JupiterMuffles That makes me smile since England wrapped their arms around a Viking king.

    • @elijahhodges4405
      @elijahhodges4405 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@JupiterMuffles Ya, I thought you were talking about Bede at first...

    • @JupiterMuffles
      @JupiterMuffles 5 месяцев назад

      @@elijahhodges4405 Cnut? I don't think they did. Hell, they kept going back and forth between Anglo Saxon and Viking Kings.

    • @elijahhodges4405
      @elijahhodges4405 5 месяцев назад

      @@JupiterMuffles They did love Cnut. He did learn the English.

  • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
    @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 8 месяцев назад +2

    Like deployed 👍

  • @KandidWarrioroftheAges
    @KandidWarrioroftheAges Месяц назад

    after finding her at the top of my ancestry, the rest of my tree was a piece of ca

  • @DavidAndy-k2m
    @DavidAndy-k2m 2 месяца назад

    We’re the Plantagenet’s involved in any of this

    • @TracyJean1972
      @TracyJean1972 5 дней назад

      The Plantagenets came three generations later, as Henry II was their great-grandson.

  • @clareryan3843
    @clareryan3843 8 месяцев назад +2

    Yep. I bet she was definitely the scary one - PROBABLY DID NOT LOOK LIKE THE INGENUE on your RUclips clickbait intro🤦

  • @jamistardust5181
    @jamistardust5181 5 месяцев назад

    27th GGM.

  • @outlawJosieFox
    @outlawJosieFox 5 месяцев назад

    I bet the Norman conquerer had many English born enemies wishing to black his name. That explains the William beat Mathilda in order to make her submit to marriage story for me.