Will Apple’s RCS Include End to End Encryption?
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Imagine in 2024, this is a conversation.
First World problems.
Sadly in the Apple world, things like this are not a surprise.
Thanks for sharing. I’m glad RCS is coming to Apple. Blessings on your day!
Exactly! Been using since the Red Phone & Text Secure days, when people complained about wanting secure communication. Yet it took 4 years until one of my contacts popped up on Signal! LOL
The synergy of your backdrop, outfit, and hair are masterful and delightful.
Love these kind of updates, thank you for posting !!!
Thanks for your film. WhatsApp is used almost as a default here in the uk.
Yes, I mentioned whatsapps use in my video 😊
What are the odds that RCS will actually be offered on iPhones sold outside the EU? Apple has already shown intent to segregate iOS features based on market location, with browser engine and appstore choice being limited to EU-only.
As for Signal, the shot themselves in the foot when they discontinued the ability to handle SMS messages in addition to E2EE Signal messages. The number of F&F I know currently using Signal has fallen from 50% to nearly zero since that change.
I'm the same with signal. The whole point was to have an app that was secure when possible but allowed me to message other people without barriers. My job requires me contacting people, sms is universal (even if some don't like that) so without sms I'm not wasting my time with the app.
Pretty high. Apple also said they’ll be joining the GSMA and work with them to get E2EE added to the protocol. Remember, currently, it’s a Google proprietary feature - even Android users with other SMS clients (such as Samsung users) don’t get E2EE with RCS.
@@jimscard Never underestimate Apple's generations-old, cultural hatred for industry/market standards, interoperability and open platforms.
I think the main reason Apple dragged their feet with RCS is Apple originally pitched iMessage to carriers to replace SMS and they shot Apple down. Then iMessage came out as an FU to the carriers (they were surprised Apple released it). And then Google came along and pitched their version of RCS and accepted Google.
I think that ticked Apple off that they agreed to work with their competitor and not them.
Of course the carriers in the US shot Apple down in 2011. Carriers were still charging per message or selling messaging plans. Any messaging that eliminated that revenue stream would have been rejected 13 years ago.
It is great that the specifications for the bell and whistle protocols are at GSMA, I was looking for where to find them.
Thanks for update. You speak very well and the info you share is on point. Very pleasant listening great presentation.
I appreciate that!
good info, better sweater
Trying to get friends and family to use Signal is a lost cause. It makes me sad.
Nice 👍
America, we create issues that continue to divide us.
Awesome, there is some hope for the future to keep my favorite phone and being able to send and receive high quality videos and photos without having to settle to a boring iOS iPhone
Fingers crossed!
Apple is like living a mini dictatorship
Great topic. Apple iMessage is great for Apple users. Googles version of rcs is good for them. Standardization with end to end encryption is good for all of us. Let’s hope there’s meeting in the middle
Nice video! Since you’re on android how is it messaging to iPhone? Everyone I know and message has iPhone lol that’s the only reason why I won’t switch to android due to iMessage and it sucks
I wonder if carriers are pushing apple to do this because they are tired of supporting the ancient SMS protocol?
But when exactly will iPhone users receive this update is the question
Finally
RCS 💪🍎
I honestly think they shouldn’t include encryption they should let it be as regular as possible.
Since a majority of the congressional delegation uses iPhone it’s actually in their best interest to to make this happen.
Would've been easier if they adopted google's RCS.
I don't think we need to bring Google back into the conversation. They did their part. They've even offered to help OEMs and Carriers. They still support the Universal Profile from the GSMA to this day. You can tell by the RCS messages that aren't E2EE. This is called out when someone uses their native messaging app like Samsung Messages for example. You get the typing indicators, high-quality pics and videos, texting over Wi-Fi, etc but no reactions and E2EE. The GSMA is the one that needs to upgrade its Universal Profile to support the "standard features" we expect. They need to be brought back into the conversation, not Google. Apple insists on being difficult. I can't stand it!!
yeah backdoored for the cia and nsa
I don't trust Apple. They are the little kid in the sandbox throwing sand.
Green vs Blue bubbles is a bit of a laugh. It's a bit like men vs women toilet seat argument. Women want the toilet set down and think that men want it up, whereas men don't actually care if it's up or down. Apple users go off at the green bubble from Android users because it's not blue, whereas Android users don't give a rats except maybe to to ask, "How much did you pay for that piece of crap again?"
Eh, I’m an Apple user and I don’t care if my friends have green or blue bubbles. It just affects my features like whether or not I can share my location with them.
Honestly, none of this matters to me. In my ~200 contacts on my iPhone, only 3 people are Android owners, of which, I barely text.
I'm sick of the potatoes too. I am an Android user but my family members (simple minded) only know how to operate crApple devices. That said I would love to be able to share videos in both directions.
I hate that MMS and group text messages needs you to be hooked up to satellite internet now. Big for me as I live off my disability and it's basically nothing so no unlimited plan I just use a low data plan and rely on my wifi as much as possible.... BUT certain text messages require me to turn my data on!
I use Google meet and whatsapp
United States the only plafe in rhe world where people actually care for the color of their text bubbles.
yup, and i hate it!
I've noticed when I send my friend who is on an iPhone a sticker or whatever the images are called it won't send. It shows up and is "sending" but nothing is sent.
Americans love their iPhones 💯
Unfortunately 😞
What the green reflections, is she in front of a green screen?
A little harsh with the anti-Apple stuff, perhaps? Like, Google uses RCS but "made it a little better" is ... basically what Apple did with iMessage but that's evil yet it's okay when Google does it within their ecosystem? 🤔
As long as Apple is evil, it is good to be anti Apple.
@@adaml.5355 Certainly nowhere near to the same degree as Google (an ad and data-mining company disguised as a search engine and "free" e-mail).
@@Look_What_You_Did Yep! and at $2.78T market cap, clearly I'm not the only one and for good reason too (compared to Google's $1.78T ...)
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The difference is, iMessage is Apple's closed, proprietary protocol that is closed to anyone that isn't in the Apple ecosystem. Google's Messages app, in turn, takes a standard open to any phone (even Apple ones, as shown by the fact that they can implement it if they wanted to) and improves upon it by adding their own end to end encryption to it if you're using their app. Just because you choose to use Google Messages for the end to end encryption with other users of the app doesn't mean you can't use RCS with anyone who *isn't* using Google Messages as their app. For example, I can have an RCS group chat with folks using Samsung or LG phones even when they're using their default RCS enabled texting apps, our conversations just aren't end to end encrypted since I'm the only one using Google Messages. You're not FORCED to use Google Messages to use RCS, it just works outside the box (especially nowadays as RCS is adopted more and more each week) whereas if you want iMessage, you HAVE to have an iDevice.
Apple: We believe privacy is a fundamental human right
Also Apple: Buy your mom an iPhone
disappointing
Here is my "tin foil hat" take:
Apple doesn't actually want to support a different encryption standard, because they have a backdoor into their own. They get to spy on customers while claiming it's encrypted. Adopting a different standard, means they no longer have that door.
The reality is probably much more banal and boring. Probably, they will do whatever the marketing team and c-suite tell them. They aren't going to have any engineer work on this, because they don't want to "spend the money" on the feature when they "already have the feature". The EU is right. The only way to make them move on this is to make it more costly financially to not support it. The big-wigs only see/speak in $$$.
Another disappointment from Apple :(