Google Turns on RCS by Default

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  • Опубликовано: 14 авг 2023
  • In this clip, Marques, Andrew, and David discuss the news that Google is turning on RCS by default for people that use Google Messages.
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  • @HolloVVpoint
    @HolloVVpoint 11 месяцев назад +1037

    This is a very US centric problem, literally never heard anyone in the UK make fun of anyone because of green or blue bubble messages. Don’t think anyone even cares about this, everyone just uses what’s app.

    • @jahleel0077
      @jahleel0077 11 месяцев назад +50

      They are in the US

    • @sheahestrada2868
      @sheahestrada2868 11 месяцев назад +81

      This is just my personal experience but no one I know cares what color your chat bubble is. I think this is made to be bigger than it really is.

    • @jahleel0077
      @jahleel0077 11 месяцев назад

      @@sheahestrada2868 I've known people to exclude Android users from their group chats because it ruins the gc experience. It's more than just a bubble color issue

    • @Dropz_RSA
      @Dropz_RSA 11 месяцев назад +38

      The US is a planet on its own. Then there is country called North Courier where these guys are politicians and this is very important.

    • @declanashmore
      @declanashmore 11 месяцев назад +33

      The problem is that we are unfortunately tethered to how the American market moves. Apple is trying to keep the US in their stranglehold, which means that we get to deal with the fallout.

  • @kindofanmol
    @kindofanmol 11 месяцев назад +958

    All this fuss about 'default' messaging apps is so fascinating to me as an Indian since literally no one cares about any of this here at all. Everyone uses cross-platform apps, particularly WhatsApp (and Telegram). And that's also true for literally all of Europe, Latin America, Africa, South & West Asia and even many parts of East Asia (others use LINE/WeChat).
    Its such an American "problem".

    • @davidalvarado9957
      @davidalvarado9957 11 месяцев назад +165

      Trust me man most people don't actually care what color bubble you have in America either. And if they do actually care I wouldn't want to know them anyway.

    • @AlphaSteam2
      @AlphaSteam2 11 месяцев назад +21

      Latin America too

    • @pruett89
      @pruett89 11 месяцев назад +44

      You aren’t wrong but there is a foundational importance of interoperability and standardization in tech. It’s isolated to the US market for this topic but if no one is pushing for standards then its only a matter of time before other issues arise

    • @Rivs5117
      @Rivs5117 11 месяцев назад +19

      Here in America a lot of us don't give a damn about a bubble color. A lot of us want Google and Apple to fix the messaging issue. I use both Android and iOS daily so I want everything to be super convenient for everyone.

    • @DonRabisa
      @DonRabisa 11 месяцев назад +27

      Totally agree, here in Spain none talks through Messages app. Everyone uses WhatsApp and now Telegram is becoming much more popular

  • @GabrielRM
    @GabrielRM 11 месяцев назад +48

    Would be so funny if android users would just receive a notification saying "x and y users are using incompatible devices for RCS messaging and theregore only receive basic MMS information"

  • @SmoothSkySailin
    @SmoothSkySailin 11 месяцев назад +121

    Google: "Everyone should have RCS!"
    Google Voice User: "Can we have RCS?"
    Google: "No!"

    • @ofacesig
      @ofacesig 11 месяцев назад +3

      This 100% WTF

    • @jimmie_g
      @jimmie_g 11 месяцев назад +3

      no kidding. Someone should spoof Google's "get the message" ad, but instead of Apple, make it Google Voice. Very hypocritical of Google to be honest.

  • @ryanreyes5440
    @ryanreyes5440 11 месяцев назад +147

    The most important feature that should be default on all platforms is being able to send text messages through wifi. I dont have cell service in my room so I rely on wifi a lot.

    • @Arsalan.Sarwar
      @Arsalan.Sarwar 11 месяцев назад +27

      I think RCS use internet

    • @ConstitutionAcademy
      @ConstitutionAcademy 11 месяцев назад +4

      This is important. When I travel international, i would love to text over wifi. Or just on airplane wifi lol

    • @user-zi8ui6yi7d
      @user-zi8ui6yi7d 11 месяцев назад

      Androids can’t do this??

    • @dyscotopia
      @dyscotopia 11 месяцев назад +36

      RCS uses wifi or mobile data so yes Androids can do that

    • @Arsalan.Sarwar
      @Arsalan.Sarwar 11 месяцев назад

      @@user-zi8ui6yi7d It can but before you have to enable it, now it is enabled by default.

  • @XLessThanZ
    @XLessThanZ 11 месяцев назад +190

    I think in the past, the hesitation for Google might have been the need to be sensitive to RCS user's data plan, since there could be a lot more data being sent when using RCS. Now that everyone knows how to deal with unlimited data plans, even the cheaper ones, turning RCS on by default is safer for Google. Less of a chance of user backlash for excessive data use.

    • @jeanbaptist6255
      @jeanbaptist6255 11 месяцев назад +7

      Carriers can count rcs as a message.

    • @dennisp8520
      @dennisp8520 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@jeanbaptist6255carriers could and should but don’t. That being said it uses so little data that it’s not a issue. Your talking about less than 1mb for most messages and most people have unlimited data. Even tiered data plans have unlimited even if it’s not high speed

    • @ChroniclesofKToyoda
      @ChroniclesofKToyoda 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's because carriers in the US wanted to maintain control, I had a phone with RCS support from 2018 IIRC, & yet had to put up with inferior messaging when in Europe it was a none issue

    • @6025094
      @6025094 11 месяцев назад

      Google don't give a shit about messenger if they did they would have brought WhatsApp instead of Facebook. Imagine if Android came with what'sapp native . Game over apple. To bad Android won't buy telegram.

    • @DevynCairns
      @DevynCairns 11 месяцев назад +2

      There's still a lot of places where unlimited plans are pretty much nonexistent or too expensive for most people, but data caps have increased to the point where the usage of text messages and images isn't that significant

  • @josephmunn15
    @josephmunn15 11 месяцев назад +166

    Google needs to really merge their meet app into their message app as ONE!!!! They still have to many apps

    • @tonyhawk123
      @tonyhawk123 11 месяцев назад

      Theyre too busy writing hit campaigns and spying on people's private data.

    • @TheOfficialOriginalChad
      @TheOfficialOriginalChad 11 месяцев назад +15

      Yes. They should change the names AGAIN.
      I believe what you’re asking for is Duo, which was amazing…and they killed it.

    • @Amit_meena19
      @Amit_meena19 11 месяцев назад +2

      isn't meet app already on Gmail?

    • @TheOfficialOriginalChad
      @TheOfficialOriginalChad 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@Amit_meena19 yea but they killed Chat to add it lmao

    • @IanGrams
      @IanGrams 11 месяцев назад +3

      What benefit would there be to merging Meet, a video calling app, into Google Messages? Even Apple keeps Messages and FaceTime separate so each can focus on their own form of communication.

  • @Xanmattauri
    @Xanmattauri 11 месяцев назад +327

    Apple rn: *dislikes*

    • @colin-nekritz
      @colin-nekritz 11 месяцев назад +9

      Why, RCS is easy to hack, and Apple iMessage was already encrypted. This is just another example of Google (forever) playing catch-up and it’s fanboys circlejerking over obliviously being #2

    • @HerrDerpington
      @HerrDerpington 11 месяцев назад +38

      @@colin-nekritz Stay salty, live in the bubble.

    • @anifowosehabeeb4716
      @anifowosehabeeb4716 11 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@colin-nekritzI own an iPhone 14 pro. The only thing I used it for is to play PUBG Mobile as I believe the Bionic chip is way superior to SD. Android is superior in every other way and it's not even close.

    • @theayeshaerotica
      @theayeshaerotica 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@colin-nekritzgoogle announced that RCS is end to end encrypted by default now

    • @jdzajdza
      @jdzajdza 11 месяцев назад

      @@HerrDerpingtonRCS is it own bubble now. Welcome to the group

  • @neilfordan
    @neilfordan 11 месяцев назад +38

    In the Philippines, we don't have this kind of problem. Most of the people use FB Messenger. Some uses a combination of Viber, Telegram, Whatsapp, Signal, IG messages. But less so of the default messaging, even on iPhone. We just use the default messaging for verification codes, alerts, contacting delivery, and ride hailing services, and for the few times we don't have data.

  • @jbennett143
    @jbennett143 11 месяцев назад +26

    Hopefully Google finds a way to make RCS messages multi-device and able to work across devices via your Gmail soon.

  • @basharalmaraziq
    @basharalmaraziq 11 месяцев назад +195

    Tbh, Google should turn on alot of things by default
    Like Nearby Share, Google meet, and a long list of features available on Pixel and other Android devices
    I found it difficult to explain to my relatives how this features are useful, and how to turn them on

    • @bradavon
      @bradavon 11 месяцев назад +41

      Yeah true. Every iPhone user know about Airdrop. Next to no Android user know about Nearby Share. I swear Google Meet comes preinstalled, but it's ignored.

    • @privatepengu
      @privatepengu 11 месяцев назад +1

      Meet sucks though

    • @basharalmaraziq
      @basharalmaraziq 11 месяцев назад +19

      @@bradavon I think Meet is well integrated into the Phone app, like an icon next to the contact, and having the video call right on the phone app not switching between phone and meet apps will make things better
      Also, preinstalling Meet is not enough, because every time I try to video call, I have to invite that user which is annoying

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@bradavonGoogle meet was used by a lot during the peak of the pandemic, but as the pandemic ends, it's slowly getting ignored

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane 11 месяцев назад +3

      You never use Google messaging apps as they all get cancelled a year later. The world has moved on.

  • @hareeshkrishnaa5642
    @hareeshkrishnaa5642 11 месяцев назад +37

    When WhatsApp wasn't working, I sent my mother messages through RCS. She was like, "What's this". I told her that this is a service similar to WhatsApp.

    • @Jst4vdeos
      @Jst4vdeos 11 месяцев назад +10

      Facebook isn't reliable at all, I don't want to rely on Whatsapp

    • @eulehund99
      @eulehund99 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Jst4vdeosneither Google or Facebook are reliable, doesn't make a difference at the end really

    • @anujmchitale
      @anujmchitale 11 месяцев назад +1

      WhatsApp is not Facebook

    • @Jst4vdeos
      @Jst4vdeos 11 месяцев назад

      @@anujmchitale it's owned and operated by Facebook and users Facebook servers

    • @calebsolis8945
      @calebsolis8945 11 месяцев назад

      Facebook purchased whatsapp back in 2014, so it is a meta company@@anujmchitale

  • @reggierizaev
    @reggierizaev 11 месяцев назад +13

    Google should make the video and audio call more automatized together with Messaging. And should make the keyboard icons that you can fuse two together into one - straight on the messaging app. I also want to be able to fuse all the icons , and fusing 3 in a one will be very cool.

  •  11 месяцев назад +61

    I really hope the EU will force Apple and other phone manufacturers to support RCS.
    It is not an app or something, RCS is an official communication protocoll from the GSMA Association, just like SMS, MMS and phone calls. Not supporting it should not be an option.

    • @BillyPhilipRwoth
      @BillyPhilipRwoth 11 месяцев назад +5

      What next should the EU force? The type of chip? The camera specs? 😂

    •  11 месяцев назад +29

      @@BillyPhilipRwoth Not sure if you are trolling or serious. In booth cases. No, they should not. But what you are writing is also vastly different than RCS.
      You are essentially making a joke like "Why doesen't the EU force the way we breath?", even though the discussion is about the worldwide industry standard protocol of how phones worked since decades.
      If you are serious.. What do you think would the downside be if the EU forceds the implementation of RCS, for booth the economy and the consumer?
      What would your alternative looklike?

    • @nsu300zx
      @nsu300zx 11 месяцев назад

      I thought to be LTE or 5G certified you had to support RCS? I'm not sure.@

    • @locust76
      @locust76 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah, let’s all pay 20 cents per message again!

    • @QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4
      @QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 11 месяцев назад

      I think messaging app can still have exclusive features, just maybe they need to use RCS when the feature is available there.

  • @nicowasheremate
    @nicowasheremate 11 месяцев назад +1

    In New Zealand, most businesses/work-related group chats are on Whatsapp and Facebook Messenger but for the most part, everyone is very chill with whatever Messaging App you use

  • @AviWeinstein
    @AviWeinstein 11 месяцев назад

    This vid was served to me because I’d recently subscribed to the channel. Yeah. Keep pushing subscribes in the clips. It worked for me!

  • @waxcpc
    @waxcpc 11 месяцев назад +6

    America: COLOUR BUBBLES.
    Rest of the world: wut?

    • @dmandman9
      @dmandman9 6 месяцев назад +1

      I’m in the USA. And I have no idea of bubbles. I just text with everyone in the group . Don’t even know who has what phone. Don’t care. I’m 59 with 59 year old concerns- reading small print, aching knees, diabetes, random pains, etc. Bubbles are young people problems 😂😂

  • @kylinmcdevitt1181
    @kylinmcdevitt1181 11 месяцев назад

    i'm watching this 6 days later and you're the only one talking about google flipping the switch, we gotta spread the word

  • @arpanbag001
    @arpanbag001 11 месяцев назад +1

    Indian here.
    Turned on RCS when the feature got available on Android.
    Spam messages got increased by 10x , including senseless photo ads.
    Turned it off forever.

  • @SigfridBlanc
    @SigfridBlanc 11 месяцев назад +5

    It’s very much a North American thing, in Europe no one cares or even are aware of this, most people use SMS extremely rarely. WhatsApp and other cross platforms are the ones being used.
    Personally if I send 10 messages a year using the stock app it’s a max

    • @Marc-bn6ml
      @Marc-bn6ml 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's the same for Latin America. Most ppl use Whatsapp and it's integrated into a lot of businesses and services. Telegram is gaining popularity as well.
      In China they use WeChat. Japan uses Line.

    • @SigfridBlanc
      @SigfridBlanc 11 месяцев назад

      @@phillipbanes5484 because it’s presented as a big deal globally while in fact it’s a matter that only a fraction of global customers care or even know about.

    • @Marc-bn6ml
      @Marc-bn6ml 11 месяцев назад

      @phillipbanes5484 because there is a disconnect from consumers and the tech reviewers. They're pushing this narrative that RCS is the greatest thing since slice bread while the whole world has been using some 3rd party app for messaging. Yea, it's fun to dunk on Apple, but it's also weird to inaccurately speak pn behalf of consumers.

  • @karellen00
    @karellen00 11 месяцев назад +41

    I think it's too little too late, here in Europe even if it would have been everything ready as it is now back in 2013 the war would still have been lost against whatsapp. The stock messaging app is tucked away in a folder, and gets opened just because you receive a message from your old carrier that tries to get you back with a better offer. And honestly I like "internet" messages to be separated from SMS, I don't want to spend 1€ on an MMS because I didn't have wifi or something stupid like that, with a separated app there is no possibility of error.

    • @thewhofan8020
      @thewhofan8020 11 месяцев назад

      This

    • @-ThatGuy-
      @-ThatGuy- 11 месяцев назад +16

      This is very much an American issue. But we also have unlimited texting as a pretty standard feature among carriers and have for a very long time. So that just isn't an issue here.
      Good luck convincing most Americans to download an app to message people when half the population is tech illiterate. It's almost impossible to make them understand why apps like Telegram are better than plain texting.

    • @WizardOfWor
      @WizardOfWor 11 месяцев назад

      @@-ThatGuy- Especially elderly people from the silent & the baby boomer generations, such as one of my aunts & my mother. They're _very_ tech illiterate in which I have to keep showing them over & over how to do what's what with their phones & apps.

    • @Marc-bn6ml
      @Marc-bn6ml 11 месяцев назад +1

      Seriously, RCS and Android Messages showed up to the party 10 years too late. In Latin America, we mainly use Whatsapp regardless of what platform you use. Telegram is also gaining popularity.

    • @karellen00
      @karellen00 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@-ThatGuy- I don't think it's a matter of tech illiterature, I think the 50-60 yers old people we have here (Italy) that can barely turn on the phone, they all know and use whatsapp. It's just a matter of first come first served, here messaging has always been expensive (10-15 cent each) and almost with no contracts with "all included", so when an app allowed free SMS everyone jumped in. In the USA probably there was already some form of free messages (included on the contract), so a lot of people didn't install an app to have messages for free. We know this stuff only works when pretty much everyone have that platform, so in the USA it was the stock SMS, that later Apple has been able to enhance with the rest of the stuff (pictures, videos, groups, etc), while still being compatible with android to have 100% reachability.
      Honestly I'd prefer anything to whatsapp/Facebook, even SMS, but it's not possible here (most contracts removed SMS, so you pay a lot for them). I hope that something will move with EU regulations that will require interoperability between messaging apps.

  • @SHKEKEKE
    @SHKEKEKE 11 месяцев назад

    In a group message with iphone users, its limited. You dont have read receipt or typing notifications, but google will translate reactions same way if does it outside of a group message

  • @fragmen52_47
    @fragmen52_47 11 месяцев назад +3

    I thought rcs was on by default for years for google messages, I have no memory of ever turning it on and I would be shocked if my parents manually turned it on

  • @anianii
    @anianii 11 месяцев назад +4

    Now I wonder, why was it not on by default before? It sounds like enabling Airplane Mode by default before RCS was out, and you need to disable it to use SMS

    • @_mistershy
      @_mistershy 11 месяцев назад

      Probably because group E2EE wasn't supported yet, just a guess.

    • @anianii
      @anianii 11 месяцев назад

      @@_mistershy Hmm. But you don’t disable a camera either just because it doesn’t support 8K video 😅 They could have just used it for 1 to 1 chats… doesn’t really add up either way

  • @AlphaBravo860
    @AlphaBravo860 11 месяцев назад +3

    The negative with RCS is it doesn't send my message right away sometimes. It will stay in que for a long time. Maybe a half hour later or more all of a sudden a message will pop up saying my message was not sent and it ask if I would like to switch to SMS/MMS... SMH by then I'm sitting in a parking lot or outside someone's house wondering where they are to find out that my message was never sent.

    • @markcossman200
      @markcossman200 11 месяцев назад +1

      That's a carrier issue

    • @Volfan2
      @Volfan2 2 месяца назад

      Many times it doesn't send them at all and it doesn't tell you your msg wasn't sent "yet" (as if it will eventually, it won't, so don't hold your breath) until the next day! I hate it. Turned it off

  • @gazsoimi
    @gazsoimi 11 месяцев назад

    in eastern europe, carriers started do discontinue rcs support in the past half year, saying it don't worth the money to use it.

  • @terrencemoore8739
    @terrencemoore8739 11 месяцев назад +1

    This is nice but I just had issues with messages stuck in "waiting for user to come back online". Needed to switch back to SMS to get the message to send

  • @DNAwastaken
    @DNAwastaken 11 месяцев назад

    Off-topic, but I’m glad that one of the guys has the Arc sticker on his computer. I also use Arc, and it’s an incredible browser.

  • @Marc-bn6ml
    @Marc-bn6ml 11 месяцев назад +4

    I don't understand how this is an argument. I have both Android and iOS, and I mainly use Whatsapp and Telegram so this would change anything. I think this is the case for most ppl outside of the US. Most ppl use a third party app instead of the default messenger on either platform.

  • @PSYCHOV3N0M
    @PSYCHOV3N0M 11 месяцев назад +19

    RCS still has issues for me and my friends.
    Sometimes a message will go through and other times it'll say the other person is offline which is FALSE. 😑
    We all use the Google Messages app. SO ANNOYING!

    • @luxyj4728
      @luxyj4728 11 месяцев назад +8

      Huh never had that happen are u on pixel or samsung

    • @markcossman200
      @markcossman200 11 месяцев назад

      A lot of times it is caused by the carrier and their services. No issues here with Verizon. But I've seen T-Mobile & AT&T users bitch on Reddit about it.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 11 месяцев назад

      @@luxyj4728 I'm on the Galaxy S23 Ultra.
      My friends are on the S22 Ultra and Motorola Razr+.

    • @BrettSurenne
      @BrettSurenne 11 месяцев назад +1

      Mine just automatically reverts to SMS when one is offline. Such a great system. Love Google messages, although it took me a while to move over from Google Hangouts.

  • @MichalBrat
    @MichalBrat 11 месяцев назад +19

    I wonder what happens the new EU rule comes into play next year. There will be mandatory interconnectivity of APIs for big messages platforms. But I am not sure if that means that Google Messages just add some Apple iMessage functionality and call it a day or if it means more "multiband" app such as Beeper will come and the actual platform will not matter anymore (not that Beeper is quite there yet).

    • @peppermintpetty87
      @peppermintpetty87 11 месяцев назад

      Don't take my word for it.but allegedly, apple is threatening to leave the EU over this(this is a 100% fact)Apple makes this sound like a singular issue and it threatens to expose it users, but what i think Apple is concerned about in America, that android devices could become more competitive with iPhones If RCS could work with imessage flawlessly. If other lawmakers and such in other countries rally behind this as anti-competitive and make apple ,manufacturers and carriers come up with a cross platform solution....apple won't have choice but to.

    • @LC34999
      @LC34999 11 месяцев назад +12

      The EU has already made Apple do USB-C. Now do another solid for the world Europe 👍

    • @peppermintpetty87
      @peppermintpetty87 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@LC34999 here's to hoping 🙏 🤞

    • @GuyFromJupiter
      @GuyFromJupiter 11 месяцев назад +5

      Isn't RCS already the open standard meant to replace MMS? If anything, I suspect it'll be Apple that will be forced to integrate it, though I don't really see why they shouldn't be allowed to keep iMessage proprietary.

    • @MichalBrat
      @MichalBrat 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@GuyFromJupiter I think that while RCS was meant to be the universal standard, Apple doesnt give a damn and the EU rule has set out to be fully "tech-agnostic" and decided to ask every each technology to provide API instead of forcing them to adopt any existing solution.

  • @gilles5783
    @gilles5783 11 месяцев назад +4

    By making it default, the older generation might be struggling with rcs just because they think they are still using sms but actually need to use WiFi or mobile data for the message to be sent

    • @Knarc.
      @Knarc. 11 месяцев назад

      I wish RCS could not use mobile or wifi data because I don't have much data so I need to conserve it.

    • @youtube_bot839
      @youtube_bot839 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Knarc.RCS = SMS over internet. That's literally the point of it. It hardly takes up any data if you stick to texts.

    • @pixels_per_inch
      @pixels_per_inch 11 месяцев назад +5

      The good thing is that it falls back to SMS if RCS isn't available.

  • @troubledpickle5986
    @troubledpickle5986 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hey, I actually disabled RCS by default on my Pixel. I do not have a data plan, and for a day I was just not receiving SMS messages because it was trying to automatically send my phone number RCS messages instead of the regular SMS I could get outside of WiFi range.

    • @BrettSurenne
      @BrettSurenne 11 месяцев назад

      That's a very specific situation and far from the global norm. It is the reason why the toggle is there in the settings.

  • @chrismintoff
    @chrismintoff 11 месяцев назад

    If the video started with a basic description of what RCS is, it would have been great.
    It’s like I walked into the middle of a lecture.

  • @Its-Just-Zip
    @Its-Just-Zip 11 месяцев назад +29

    On the topic of group messages and RCS, I suspect that the RCS standard is just going to be downgrading to MMS when you have a user in the group that does not support RCS and this is because RCS is not a super centralized protocol like iMessage so you don't have the ability for a central server to discriminate between the users. Google might still find a way to do it. I just expect that it's going to downgrade to MMS instead because that's the easy way to do it and it's very clear what's happening.
    I'm also not surprised it took Google so long to get full group end to end encryption because as somebody who has worked on developing a chat messaging app and to end encryption is very annoying key sharing when there is more than one user becomes a massive headache and I would love to see how Google handled that problem if they want to release like a white paper on it because depending on how they did it, it could become a new standard on its own

    • @bencze465
      @bencze465 11 месяцев назад

      difference between standard and proprietary is that one provider doesn't get access to everyone's data on the globe. afaik rcs is (or can be) decentralized which is actually a good thing

    • @silvy7394
      @silvy7394 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah thats what happens with groups. We have a family group where we all have android but my dad. Because of this, the group chat is forced to MMS/SMS and not RCS, because Apple refuses to support RCS even though its vastly better.

  • @wnylibrarian
    @wnylibrarian 10 месяцев назад +1

    The most annoying part of Google's rollout is that RCS is still not available for Google Voice. Either make Google Voice RCS compatible or let me receive/send messages via my GV number in Google messages. Just the way using the phone app asks me which number do I want to call from.

  • @MarcSpctr
    @MarcSpctr 11 месяцев назад +30

    I don't see it gaining as much popularity, as yes Android is way way way more popular worldwide, but at the same time, outside of US/Canada region, no one uses iMessage or the Default messenger.
    almost everywhere WhatsApp is what people use.
    and the default Messeges app is for OTPs sent to you by SMS by companies.
    So Yes it might be helpful to secure those OTPs if the companies start using RCS as well.
    but other than that, rarely anyone uses these default messeges apps to chat outside of US/Canada region.

    • @Ficho.
      @Ficho. 11 месяцев назад +15

      See, you say in your comment, 'RCS or no RCS, it's not a problem for us because we just use WhatsApp.' But that is a problem on itself, as trusting Zucky with your messages isn't a good idea.

    • @jordanmackay9156
      @jordanmackay9156 11 месяцев назад +7

      There are over 1 billion android users that don't use whatsapp. It will absolutely make a huge difference and now there is no reason to even use whatsapp.

    • @rorisxng
      @rorisxng 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@Ficho. yet how many messaging apps has Google released and killed? They’re crying that iMessage and WhatsApp have managed to simply deliver a competent experience for users.

    • @bradavon
      @bradavon 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@jordanmackay9156true but they're not using SMS either. Which is what most people use Google Messages for. Outside of the backwards US that is.

    • @Ficho.
      @Ficho. 11 месяцев назад

      @@rorisxng I didn't say we should all use Google's messaging app, I said we shouldn't use WhatsApp.
      Perfectly secure and feature-rich messaging apps like Signal exist.

  • @alfblack2
    @alfblack2 11 месяцев назад

    surprising I was able to use RCS in ph. but suddenly its not working anymore on the same contact I was communicating with.

  •  8 месяцев назад

    I really don't like the way Google are forcing users to go from SMS to RCS, turning it on quietly even when I previously refused RCS when they asked.
    I'm now looking for another plain SMS app, any suggestion?

  • @XdewGaming
    @XdewGaming 11 месяцев назад +1

    I’d like to see non-rcs “chats” remained as something like “conversations” and rcs-enabled chats be called chats

    • @XdewGaming
      @XdewGaming 11 месяцев назад

      RCS still doesn’t work for regions like SEA though where texting is expensive but cellular internet is cheap and people just use messaging apps

  • @gelisob
    @gelisob 11 месяцев назад

    2:50 clicked on the video to hear what is RCS about, you are correct sir, i dont know what it is and i'm 3 minutes in to the video and nobody still has mentioned what it is :D

    • @gelisob
      @gelisob 11 месяцев назад

      ok nobody really said what it is in the whole video.. uh oh. something something encryption

  • @Rexhunterj
    @Rexhunterj 11 месяцев назад +1

    This is great for Australians as RCS is over the internet, which is much more reliable than the old mobile towers and copper lines, for someone like me living in the outer brisbane suburbs up in a mountain range, I can SMS and call anyone I want from my property with a WiFi connection. Prior to this service I had to walk up the driveway ( a 30 degree slope for 250m) to take a call or make a call, lol.
    Recently the government services switched over to RCS too I believe that makes receiving notifications/warnings from them a lot easier now.

    • @Mrsquiggley
      @Mrsquiggley 11 месяцев назад

      You realise sms and wifi calling are already standard things supported by Australian Telcos without needing RCS. I’ve been using it for years living out Tambourine.

    • @Digital111
      @Digital111 11 месяцев назад

      I'm from Canada and I'm shocked to hear Australians use SMS. I always thought you used WhatsApp or some other app. Thought SMS was only a USA/Canada thing lol..

  • @johnrehwinkel7241
    @johnrehwinkel7241 11 месяцев назад +3

    My phone opted to RCS, but I get a lot of "message not delivered" issues, even when talking to my sweetie, who's on the same carrier and plan and on Android, so I switch back to SMS. I don't know why RCS just breaks so often, but if they don't fix it fast, people are going to opt out in droves.

  • @happiekidonetwo2529
    @happiekidonetwo2529 11 месяцев назад

    Marques can you make a whole video about RCS and how it works and how to use it and set it on

  • @FlorianWendelborn
    @FlorianWendelborn 11 месяцев назад +2

    Anything that further removes SMS is a good thing. That being said, everyone should use Signal.

    • @Digital111
      @Digital111 11 месяцев назад +1

      Wish it was the default app for everyone 😢

  • @JoeKnowsWorst
    @JoeKnowsWorst 11 месяцев назад +1

    This is like the old thing where cable companies are negotiating with one of the networks and they go public to make themselves look like the hero 😂

  • @wroot_lt
    @wroot_lt 11 месяцев назад

    Messages app on my old Pixel XL with A10 does say Start chat now. But RCS is still disabled. I have now enabled it and all features. I will never see anything as i barely use text messages :D Usually it is only delivery notifications, appointments, MFA codes. Europe btw.

  • @ken830
    @ken830 11 месяцев назад +2

    What about Google Voice? It can't even act like an Android default messaging app...

  • @JarbasCoqueiro
    @JarbasCoqueiro 11 месяцев назад

    How does it effect 2FA messages? I have no other use for it

  • @alb.1911
    @alb.1911 11 месяцев назад

    Next time can you explain what is RCS in the introduction?Thanks.

  • @racsito39
    @racsito39 8 месяцев назад +2

    As an iPhone user, I'm glad it's finally coming.

  • @dennylafoss
    @dennylafoss 11 месяцев назад +5

    I'm having so many issues with sending and receiving messages that I turned it off. The service sucks

  • @2008abba
    @2008abba 11 месяцев назад

    For a lot of my contacts I've just turned RCS off. If you don't have a data connection it just means that you message doesn't go through. So I send a text and then I get a message 20 minutes later that it never went through. That's a the bug not a feature

  • @maniacse
    @maniacse 11 месяцев назад

    There IS a big problem with RCS compared to iMessage, at least here in Europe. And it is the pace of switching to SMS when receiver device is out of data coverage or user switched off data manually. For iMessge it is I think few minutes, while it doesnt work on RCS at all. And notification about not delivering of RCS message will appear sometimes few hours later, and you have to switch it for SMS manually.

  • @mrjj216
    @mrjj216 Месяц назад

    IDK if it's my phone or carrier, but the rcs is janky as hell and I don't get messages or people don't get my messages half the time...

  • @aarod2010
    @aarod2010 11 месяцев назад

    My iPhone does this already, I can see when others start texting me. Have been able to see it for a while. I don't understand.

    • @brotherhoodofsteel3090
      @brotherhoodofsteel3090 5 месяцев назад

      You're talking about iMessage
      RCS is to replace SMS, which both iPhone and Android still use, but Android is trying to change that due to how old SMS is and the lack of end to end encryption.

  • @DarrelGreene-ho2tl
    @DarrelGreene-ho2tl 2 месяца назад

    Only thing on my phone when I go on the setting it turns off so I don't have to but otherwise it stays on all the time and I don't like it, anyone know how to permanently disable this setting

  • @anthonycristiano
    @anthonycristiano 11 месяцев назад +1

    My favorite thing about messaging my Android using friends is that it is a 50/50 chance that it won’t actually go through. Been struggling with this since my iPhone 7 Plus. Currently using a 12 Pro Max.

    • @ChroniclesofKToyoda
      @ChroniclesofKToyoda 11 месяцев назад

      As an Android user I receive other Android messages fast & reliably, but my iPhone friends end up having to HMU on Social' if they want to be sure their messages went thru, IDK why Apple is still lagging on supporting what is literally a GSM industry standard

  • @icarus_flying1994
    @icarus_flying1994 11 месяцев назад

    is googles RCS open source yet/ever happening? I use a third party messaging app, which would also be an easy way to test the group chat potential issue.

  • @TheSultanV
    @TheSultanV 11 месяцев назад

    Y'all get text messages? Nobody ever contacts me 😂

  • @dominicsyyy
    @dominicsyyy 11 месяцев назад

    waiting for RCS support for dual sim (simultaneous active RCS for both sim)

  • @cloudyview
    @cloudyview 11 месяцев назад

    I have to wonder how much MKB knows about Grey Ducks, specifically in Minnesota.

  • @ehmzed
    @ehmzed 11 месяцев назад +1

    Literally nobody outside of the US cares or will ever experience RCS even by accident.
    SMS is exclusively for receiving OTP and verification codes, and the mobile carrier's automated messages.

  • @yubstep
    @yubstep 11 месяцев назад +1

    Google voice needs RCS By default

  • @bradavon
    @bradavon 11 месяцев назад

    This will only affect Samsung users from the S21 (S22 in the US). Until then Samsung Messages was the default sms app.

  • @stu_mac
    @stu_mac 11 месяцев назад +10

    RCS is the blue bubble of the Android world - Apple phones are the equivalent of green bubbles in group RCS chats.
    Unless the EU ruling forces a (proper) interconnect between them, both will lose out to WhatsApp (and others) globally, although it seems that mostly USA is wedded to the Apple product as the world moves on...

    • @Marc-bn6ml
      @Marc-bn6ml 11 месяцев назад

      It's really a non-issue globally. 😂😅 whats app has way more features and deals with businesses and services. For example, free in-flight messages for Whatsapp and iMessage.

  • @atashleyhughes
    @atashleyhughes 11 месяцев назад

    In the UK RCS has been on by default for ages now, on samsung phones for sure.

  • @beautyneytiri
    @beautyneytiri 11 месяцев назад

    texting using a carrier...
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • @JR-uy2nd
    @JR-uy2nd 11 месяцев назад

    In my phone they activate RCS by default like a year ago. I think they did that in the US only now, which is strange because it is the only place that cares about the green bubble topic, everyone else uses Whatsapp

  • @universemediallc
    @universemediallc 11 месяцев назад

    Never heard of "RCS" until now...

  • @kimakhiangte
    @kimakhiangte 11 месяцев назад

    The problem with RCS on Google Messages is that it's hard to determine whether it will send via RCS or SMS. There is no clear indication that it's going to be RCS or SMS as it says SMS on text field by default. It should only be fall back to SMS with confirmation if we turn on RCS.

    • @deepfxd8
      @deepfxd8 11 месяцев назад +1

      It says RCS message or text message down where you click when you are about to type.

  • @nikolavonfulton5195
    @nikolavonfulton5195 11 месяцев назад +3

    I have not had any issues and my whole family uses it

  • @onemat2000
    @onemat2000 11 месяцев назад

    RCS is a problem between my Android and my wife's Android phone. If there are no attachments, it works fine but if you attach a photo or some other file, the text will not go through. You have to change to SMS to get a text with a photo to go through.
    Why is that?

  • @backacheache
    @backacheache 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have just been at a festival with my family where they provided a 5g connection, however we mostly dont have that and good old text messages came to the rescue as data service fell apart as more and more people arrived. If they could do a seemless failover too text that would be great, but actually in an emergency situation making messaging reliantion data is bad. But at least I now know that before attending a big event I should turn it off on the phone.

  • @ricardoabh3242
    @ricardoabh3242 11 месяцев назад

    But Apple already as something’s like RCS?
    (Or identical but proprietary)

  • @Marc-bn6ml
    @Marc-bn6ml 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have an android and when another person has RCS it will fail a lot or they wont even have it on

  • @jahjoeka
    @jahjoeka 11 месяцев назад

    I just don't want my Google account texting like it's my phone number.

  • @wizdude
    @wizdude 11 месяцев назад

    I just had to look up what RCS is as android isn’t the dominate platform in Australia. Apologies if you explained this in a previous video.

  • @hamshank8892
    @hamshank8892 6 месяцев назад

    They need to fix the send video option

  • @egdiroh
    @egdiroh 11 месяцев назад

    Google has features beyond the RCS spec, and right now Google maintains the directory for RCS, instead of their being independent directories. [there had been some, but gave up and folded back to google]

  • @dooms_day100
    @dooms_day100 11 месяцев назад

    It's a problem that only first world countries who can afford to have wifi and mobile data turned on the whole day can worry about. iMessage or RCS is a mess here in the Philippines especially when I send a message and they don't see it cause they're being conservative of their data allowance

  • @roteschwert
    @roteschwert 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm glad RCS is a thing, but I won't seriously use it until Google gives us a way to deal with all the carrier promotions, OTP texts, spam message & all other junk that clutter up normal conversations

    • @siliconhawk9293
      @siliconhawk9293 11 месяцев назад +1

      its a carrier issue i doubt google can do much except for maybe a spam filter.

    • @roteschwert
      @roteschwert 11 месяцев назад

      @@siliconhawk9293 the app did have a way to separate personal conversations with the categories feature but Google nixed it

  • @thewhofan8020
    @thewhofan8020 11 месяцев назад

    I use WhatsApp and default messages on Android. I have no idea what RCS is or does and probably wouldn't be able to tell if it was on or off on my phone.

  • @scooter5480
    @scooter5480 11 месяцев назад +14

    Hopefully this will help mitigate the horrible bullying younger people have experienced over the color of a message bubble. It’s about time rcs is the cool kid on the block.

    • @RockBottom7777
      @RockBottom7777 11 месяцев назад

      Apple didn't adopt rcs, so it's not going to change anything in iMessage.

    • @BrettSurenne
      @BrettSurenne 11 месяцев назад +1

      What world are you living in where anyone cares about a colour in a messaging app? Even younger people.

    • @adrianhans856
      @adrianhans856 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@BrettSurenneSome idiots really do care about that. Especially if the majority of the group are iPhone users.
      Even if they live in a country where third party applications like telegram and etc are mainly used, they will STILL use iMessage just to exclude the person with the android device

    • @SN-fl1qy
      @SN-fl1qy 11 месяцев назад

      @@BrettSurenneyou must be a boomer. It’s a thing, hence this video, unfortunately.

  • @azizaja8255
    @azizaja8255 11 месяцев назад

    Literally everyone outside North America: "what are RCS and iMessage?"

  • @DNA7URE
    @DNA7URE 8 месяцев назад +2

    Well Apple just announced RCS for imessage next in 2024

  • @Malaki420
    @Malaki420 11 месяцев назад

    What is RCS I'm unfamiliar with it?

  • @cangle37
    @cangle37 8 месяцев назад +2

    Just happened.

  • @user-rk2sy8df4s
    @user-rk2sy8df4s 11 месяцев назад

    hope they do it for google voice soon

  • @dutch-prepper6587
    @dutch-prepper6587 2 месяца назад

    I noticed RCS was turned on when I was trying to sent a SMS message. I still use SMS messaging in case there is no wifi and I don't want or cannot use mobile data transfer. It's mostly used for emergency purposes. So here I found out what RCS means: It blocked messaging. It was installed and enabled unsolicited. I would regard this switch over of communication towards a company owned platform as hijacking, and thus a criminal activity by Google. After some internet search, the way to restore SMS was revealed. Many people have cellphones at this moment that don't support SMS anymore while the users are not aware, creating a communication and safety hazard.

  • @LearnAsUGrow501
    @LearnAsUGrow501 11 месяцев назад

    1:23 Basically a Simple way to push a PSA to the people.

  • @WebbyStudio
    @WebbyStudio 11 месяцев назад

    me, my kids and their friends use fb messenger, google chat, and snapchat for messaging. all this chatter about colored bubbles seems like a problem for iphone users who don't know how to download apps and just stick with default

  • @WalterWhite4AU
    @WalterWhite4AU 11 месяцев назад

    Nothing stopping Google from adding iMessage support aka beeper and blue bubbles.

  • @user-pd8xu3ge6d
    @user-pd8xu3ge6d 10 месяцев назад

    Does RCS work on PCs like iMessages does on Macs?

    • @JollyOldCanuck
      @JollyOldCanuck 9 месяцев назад

      You can link your android phone to your windows PC/Laptop if you really want and access your messages and call history from your computer, Microsoft has been really chill about adding in android compatible features ever since Windows Phone died.

  • @Alex121sm1
    @Alex121sm1 11 месяцев назад +2

    I've never given a shit about the color of the bubbles. I've switched between iPhone and android in the past too. I'm currently on the s23+. Probably never going back to iPhone.

  • @aeonjoey3d
    @aeonjoey3d 11 месяцев назад +1

    RIP prepaid phone users wallets without unlimited data. “There’s no downside” uh huh.

  • @JoshuaT902
    @JoshuaT902 11 месяцев назад +16

    I believe EU might force apple to atleast open their facetime, siri, and imessage to not be locked behind an ecosystem for example allowing api to be more open. The fact that communication between ios and andoid uses sms which is so less secure than imessage or rcs will be an cyber security issue.

    • @jdzajdza
      @jdzajdza 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah cause that will improve the poverty in the country. EU needs a job

    • @sparky6757
      @sparky6757 11 месяцев назад +13

      @@jdzajdzaLiterally not one person here aside from you is talking about the poverty rates in the EU, it is not related to the topic at hand

    • @alexanderphilipgreen
      @alexanderphilipgreen 11 месяцев назад +4

      Nobody wants Siri

    • @cameronmalchow7597
      @cameronmalchow7597 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@alexanderphilipgreen Yeah, Siri is a shitty digital assistant. Google Assistant is miles better.

    • @Rivs5117
      @Rivs5117 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@alexanderphilipgreen Siri is horrible. Google Assistant is literally 100x better.

  • @hidazip
    @hidazip 11 месяцев назад +2

    Who cares about SMS RCS. In Asia, where I live, everyone uses messaging apps. My friends here didn't even know what all that green blue bubble thing was.

    • @redbot_
      @redbot_ 11 месяцев назад +1

      People from US only care about this 😂 Like they will mock you if you are using an Android. It’s like people will mock you for doing something different

    • @hidazip
      @hidazip 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@redbot_I've heard of people in the US not wanting to switch from an iPhone because of iMessage. Meanwhile, I've never sent an iMessage because where I live, Line is a thing, and unlike in the US, sending SMS is not free but unlimited data plans are extremely affordable.

  • @Engineering2AI
    @Engineering2AI 11 месяцев назад

    Just statement, every phone company does this too. But it just dawned on me that Google can just switch on RCS and gain users at it pleases

  • @Yaarmehearty
    @Yaarmehearty 11 месяцев назад

    I have never understood this blue vs green bubble thing, who even uses text messaging via the default apps? everybody I know uses Telegram, Whatsapp or Signal, if I get a text message its usually spam.