Madaka: Alright it’s time to put you down! Saitama: Who are you? Do you want to fight? Adam: Now now kids. I won’t allow my children to hurt each other. Madaka/Saitama: CHILDREN?!?
@@BUR404 I was going off of Medaka copying android enhancements, letting her copy anything. So it would be Adam, and Medaka copying everything off of each other. (also they could copy Saitama to remove the limitations on their bodies.)
@@BUR404Real Question though: Could she copy Eyes of the Lord? If so, how would it vary from The End and would it sway the fight one way or the other?
@Master_E444 The eyes don’t have any similarities to abnormalities as far as I’m aware. It’s not a talent or something that can be gained through time or hardship. It appears to be more of a biological organ that was created for him by a higher power and I don’t think Medaka can copy biological stuff like this
@@BUR404 fair. Though given the range of other abilities she's copied, several of which have organic components, it wouldn't surprise me if she could. I don't know if it'd change the result either. Though ironically if skill and talent is the bench mark, she might be able to copy and improve on Saitama's growth rate.
The interesting thing with the eyes of the lord is that it not only copies the technique but holds zero requirements to use them. He doesn't need the specifcations other need to use the ability itself. An example using Gojo would be Adam using Hollow purple inspite of not having cursed energy or the limitless or even the six eyes. And not only does it not need requirements it also is copied to perfection itself, bringing out the utter maximum potential of the technique without any further room for improvement on the technique whatsoever. Combine this instantaneous perfection with Adams ability to copy without being restricted by requirements and his eyes of the lords perception speed being literally faster than the concept of time. Its honestly ABSURD just how strong he is. But another thing is in theory he could also copy genetic traits as we see him use the serpents hand on his right hand which changes the hands physiology momentarily. So for example in theory he could say copy Goku's genetical ability to have a zenkai boost to power up after sustaining damage and healing from it later. Adam is simply so broken its genuinely unreal.
@@BUR404 in the series the differences between demons and gods can be pretty thin at times, I wouldn’t be surprised if the two species were close enough for the purpose of the Eyes of the Lord. But I guess that’s just speculation on my part.
@@Nephilim1717 I think they are pretty different from each other, tho we've never seen him use it on humans, so that might mean it's impossible, who knows tho
But Medaka' ability would Copy Adam's eyes at the 120% of them making them Copy Better (?). I think It would come tò a Battle of copying each other abilities but at the end i would give Medaka the victory. Except if Adam could Copy Medaka's " The end". In that case idk the outcome
cannonically this fight wouldn't even occur, since Adam has demonstrated the ability to make every human cry just from a few words and the fact that he loves humanity (as a father) he would likely just stop the fight and be like "my children, please stop fighting, this isn't good for us" and if any resist a little bit of the belt that you've recieved when bringing home bad notes at school would fix the problem :D /J (joke)
Honestly rather enjoy this one from the perspective of possible interactions once this fight would be finished. I don't see them going lethal or even if they do, it could be undone via all fiction erasing the deaths. Once Saitama sees there's these two better then him, I see him being reinvigorated to try and get stronger once again with a new lease on life. Medaka having potentially seen a similarly discontent soul who felt empty due to always winning helps him to get better and channel his power into helping others like she did. Adam I could definitely see being similarly encouraging to two of his kids who approach him in power, hoping to one day see them surpass him. After all, what father wouldn't want to see their children succeed where they failed.
@@BUR404 I like to think of interesting narrative elements to vs fights like this. I see it as fun to add another layer to an already interesting and complex scenario. Also helps to thematically link them, both in power and story. Adam is the ultimate father figure who'd do anything to help his children, Medaka is someone who helps others achieve what they want due to a lack of purpose or challenge, Saitama is a guy who achieved what he wanted too early and now just fights villains for fun. There's enough of a link there for interesting interactions.
@@BUR404question when was it decided that she's no longer lightspeed because I'm pretty sure that she's faster than someone that can shoot a beam of light to space
@@Keith_Norman As far as I'm aware, she is. And that doesn't even matter, as through All Fiction, she can easily make the time needed for something to happen, into nothing, literally moving into 0 seconds(In short, an improvised version of Adam's "Fist that Surpassed Time").
I also forgot to mention that each time he copy technique from Garou, it is miles superior to their original. This is why it is wired to power scale Saitama because he does not follow the normal logic of other anime characters or the protagonists of another anime character like born with that power and to trained and fight to get more power or born with that power and train how to use its full potential. Saitama power is just..... because he has it as he doesn't need to do anything and he is still getting stronger each passing seconds.
Negation nail? He'd crush it Copying him? He'd surpass it His nature has a creative, simple way to deal with any trick. Basicly tricks and power levels are futile.
@@badguy1373 The moment Saitama struggles to actually land a punch and if Adam decides to toy around with Saitama and playfully hit him with registers to Saitama as actual pain he would begin to grow exponentially like HELL. Approximately 80x(estimation Galaxies destroyed in the serious punch squared feat) to the power of intervals during the power graph in the Garou vs Saitama fight. 80^7 = 20 trillion (excluding extra digits) divided by the number of galaxies in the universe = 5 observable universes of power by the final 7th intervals. And if both individuals are around 63,000xFTL as one has once calculated before. Their reaction time should be in around nanoseconds. 20 trillion (excluding extra digits) divided by 7 is 2,857,142,857,140 and given there are 7 intervals by the 1st he was about 2,857,142,857,140^1.071125 = 20 trillion (excluding extra digits) which is the 7th interval. And given how this is nanoseconds time you'd have to power the Number of potential galaxy destruction by 1.071125 over and over for a billion times since a nanosecond is a billionth of a second. and then divide that by the number of galaxies in the observable universe. I'm not going to calculate the same thing over a billion times because I mean, who would? 💀 *But to clear my case up is am curious in what Adam and medaka can do against Saitama's exponential growth*
Also, I think the idea of Saitama's character is that he is just plainly insanely strong ofc. But also, that he makes the fights fair. He literally ripped through Garou's fancy hyperspace portal and copying technique with minimum difficulty the same way he broke into phoenix man's inner pocket dimension. Any Hax you have that would make the fight unfair Saitama would negate it to make it fair. But hey who the hell knows if Saitama can get around Medakas Hax's who knows?
@@SpedSukuna also when saitama vs orochis battle, first he felt the lava then he said "I adgested" Imagine this line being dropped after any instakill ability. Also in absolute worst case scenario he uses the reverse causality (0 punch) and knock anyone's base form down (I don't think it will be necessary)
My guy get from low balled Mountain Range Demolisher to Large Planet Buster(High Ball Multi Galaxy Buster) in less than a day 100× is beyond understatement
That purple haired woman and Blonde guy just starts to straight up bully Saitama by copying his strength to it's "perfect form" but after sometime Saitama starts overpowering them. This is what I imagined.
Actually the light speed statements were rebunked when Hinokages theme song was described to be as fast as Kurokami phantom without the drawbacks of it damaging the users body and was described as a skill that lets the user move at ftl speeds and several other ftl statements in the manga. Medaka just lied about it not being that fast.
I feel like Medaka was very lowballed stat wise, and you didn't even go into any ftl arguments for her and said it was invaild without proving it, but this is a good video. i just think Medakw would win
@BUR404 I wouldn't take that statement like that since there are multiple other statements in manga scans I have seen that contradict that, and to my knowledge, her ap is at least universal
In my personal opinion, Adam loses against most characters in fiction. Not because he is weak, but because for him fighting a human is almost like fighting a child you raised and loved
Yeah, Adam would not try to win, but fight at an equal level and gradually getting stronger and stronger to help his children grow to their fullest potential then choose to lose.
Medaka's The End ability copying the skills of Saitama and Adam would be insane how do you achieve a perfect version of someone whos main trait is breaking their limiter
No, not really. Medaka can't just copy someone's raw strength/speed unless it's an ability that isn't intrinsic to the persons species, so if she tried to copy Goku she wouldn't become a Super Saiyan, but more so be able to use ki. Same thing with skill, she can't just copy Goku's combat skill unless it was an abnormal ability.
Something else not really stated here is the only reason why he lost. The fight is because the blood got into his eyes. They would’ve just continue going forever. The only reason why that happened was because the blood. And if you could look it up, Greek god‘s blood is extremely poisonous.
I'm pretty sure that the blood made him lose his eyesight, because his eyes were already weakened by how much did he use them and the level of the attacks he copied, so they wouldn't have kept going forever. And Zeus' blood should make those who are real heroes become more powerful, Adam wasn't a real hero?
It’s possible that the nature of a broken limiter and the power gained is due to the circumstances surrounding the break through. Such as Zombie man probably was fed up with the experimentations and thought he didn’t want to die during the entire process. Resulting in his immortality while Saitama who could already defeat monsters that required A class hero’s pre training. Thought about how fun it would be to be the strongest hero capable of defeating any opponent he faced. Creating a power to defy the laws of physics allowing him to always withstand any attack he takes and is always able to defeat any opponent in one punch. Even surpassing the laws of causality and travel back and time to win the fight against cosmic Goro by throwing zero punches. If this is the case the moment Adam copies it both of them will infinitely scale off each other throwing paradox attacks like it’s nothing.
Well the rever causality punch is not something saitama can just spam as he forgot about when he returned to the present.Adam as infinite speed and could copy his growth better then garou and would end up winning.
He did copy his growth, he kept copying it but saitama just kept outgrowing him exponentially. Garou stated that he kept copying his exact power, but the next punch just kept hitting harder, and eventually one of those punches was going to one shot him.@@z-ero
@@Thegreatlordofall transcending time means your punches hit before it thrown or doing something that does not suppose to happen at that time and going at any point in time and going in places that are beyound time. moving in 0.0000000000000000000000000000001th of a seconed does not make you time transcendence cuz you are already moving in that time
The eyes are more of a biological trait gifted to him when he was created. They aren’t manifested through hardship or talent which Medaka relies on for her ability. I don’t think Medaka can copy biological traits either.
@Raijin550 Growth rate and adaptation isn’t a biological trait but I’m not entirely sure if Medaka can copy Saitama’s limit breaking. Garou could (and failed) so it’s not far fetched
@@BUR404 not really Garou couldn't ether he only copied Stats of Saitama each time Saitama got one shot stronger unlike Adam's copyng ability Garou can't copy something that's above or OF God like time manpulation and stuff which he even admits himself
It's worth mentioning (I'm not sure if it's brought up, I haven't finished the video) that Saitama is likely a lot more resistant to hax than we see, considering he has literally breached into a dreamscape, meaning he can exist in a state where he, by no means, should exist. That and also his soul is very heavy and resilient, seeing how Tatsumaki can't do anything to him. It is 100% possible that he could win this fight, at least against Medaka. I do believe Adam would lose against Saitama, if the fight is drawn out, it would simply be a stalemate, considering how we see an attack of the same strength as Saitama do nothing to him.
Well not really if you look at the graph presented in his fight against cosmic garou,saitama was slightly stronger then garou from the moment the fight started but started to leave him in the dust.So it not that he doesn’t take damage from enemies equal to him more so he was taking realy low damage from a guy slightly weaker then him.
They have gaia (the creator of the universe in mythology) filibuster (an enemy turned friend that can destroy the universe in one attack) anubis (god of death) hades (god of the underworld) metafilibuster (an alternate form of filibuster that can project a hologram of himself to an alternate universe to destroy it, and many more.
Adam is by far the fastest, Saitama has his anti hax feats and Medaka's haxes Considering Adam's beyond time reaction I can't even tell if her haxes would work
Wasn't he able to react to The Fist That Surpasses Time due to his Eyes Of The Lord? If I remember well, and if she doesn't hold back, some of Medaka's skills aren't things that can be seen. For example, All Fiction just happens, it isn't something actually visible, unless Adam can copy it by seeing himself getting erased, but he shouldn't be able to nullify it anymore, no?
@@davidedavide2100 then again, the fists that surpass time aren't really anything unique, it's a punch that is so fast that time moves backwards, in that sense the punch itself shouldn't be able to be seen. Plus I doubt that the eyes that can legit dodge through time being unable to see meta attacks, plus for someone to legit match Zeus in speed I doubt he would even let her have the chance
@@butters461 Wasn't it an attack that stops time? What do you mean that it makes time move backwards? Like I already wrote, for what I understood he could react to the attack with his eyes, which work by seeing the attack, so how could he negate her attack, how could he be fast enough, if she does something which can't be seen, because there isn't anything to see?
@@davidedavide2100 Basically, the faster you move, the slower time moves, moving faster than light, time moves backwards since its obvious Zeus moves faster than light and its "The fist that transcends time" not "the fist that stops time" its obvious that time moves backwards and thats how Zeus won againstChronos Zeus doesn't have the ability to manipulate time, its legit a speed feat
@@butters461 For what I remember, Zeus couldn't use TFTST when he fought against his father, the latter used it and Zeus learned it later. Anyway, my doubt was, doesn't "time moves backwards" mean that it gets rewind, like something that had already happened, happen again instead of something new which should have happened?
This arguable but Medaka wins. Due to in the manga she was able to tank Iihiko’s attacks that was stated to be irreversible as well on a another dimension. As well as copying a portion of Ajimu’s skills around one billion skills. To also equally as fast as Kumagawa who’s speed is stated to be able to move at non existent with time speed = immeasurable.
All fun and games till you remember Adam can copy any and everything on top of being able to dodge the attack while landing the same attack back at you at it's perfected state. Speed wise Adam scales beyond the concept of time itself, where time ceases to exist, he's still faster. What Adamn & Zeus was doing was a straight up more impressive feat than flash running across the galaxy and arriving before he left, in short Adam is not only immaeasurable but scales beyong that.
@@MasterChief-ie2xu sure, but are his punches beyond cause and effect? Medaka's are while using all fiction. So really they are going pummel each other with undodgeble punches untill someone goes down, assuming they are both going for the kill. Medaka's durability should also be relative to Adams as she scales above Ajimu who also tanked the big bang. Here's the thing tho can Adam finish the job and kill Medaka? I don't see it to my knowledge he has no way of bypassing medaka's several immortalities.
@@nonamepetkoSorry, what do you mean that Medaka's punches are beyond cause and effect with All Fiction? All Fiction erases cause and effect, right? Is erasing something the same as being beyond it? And when was it stated and/or demonstrated that Medaka's durability is equal to Ajimu's one and that she scales above her? And which immortalities did Medaka have aside from All Fiction, the vibrations of Styles, theorically Encounter and maybe Death Meeting, Undead Genius and the skill to not age (I don't remember it's name), to be sure that I'm not forgetting some of them?
@@davidedavide2100 I meant above cause not effect as when Medaka uses all fiction she can erase the cause of her throwing a punch making the punch undodgeble. She has several other minuses that she showcases from the top of my mind probably the best one she can use in this fight is five forks, realistically she should also have every other minus she has laid eyes on. Same reason why Adam has universal at least durability, AP = Durability unless explicitly stated otherwise. Adam can damage Zeus so he has Uni AP and durability Medaka can damage Ajimu so she has Uni AP and durability.
Having Saitama's scaling at planetary and speed at near light speed is such a low ball. He is easily ftl to mftl and his strength/ap is at minimum multi solar system and could potentially be multi galactic. Also his raw existence is so potent that most hax have little to no effect. Sub spaces, hyper spaces, soul relms, durability negation, telepathy, telekinesis, poison, radiation, and more. Just got to the portion you mentioned these.
The problem with saitama in this fight is that it's a mis-match. Like Adam & Medaka are straight up stronger, and faster than him to the point that they can blitz and 1 shot without even needing any hax. Also the the reason hax doesn't work on saitama is because he hasn't fought anyone stronger than him, in this case they're bought just plain and simply superior. "If the fight goes on saitama will out grow them" Yea no not in this one, both of his opponents are capable of not only copying him, but also using his own attacks beyond it's maximum potential. To touch further on "He can surpass them", Medaka is quite literally one of the most haxed characters in fiction, to the points where she's 100s of different abilities, those one which can neg saitama by literally simply erasing him from existence. Even if you go down the route of "hax don't work on him" again she is plain and simply faster & stronger than him, on top of having abilites that can amp her physical stats. It's no contest, Idk if you read all of medaka box series but this video low balled her. As for Adam, well he simply straight up 1 shots if he uses any of zeus moves, every hit he landed in that fight surpasses anything saitama has ever done or tanked. The fist that surpasses time plain and simply scales above a galaxy wiping attack. Even if he doesn't use any of this saitama will never land a single hit, will never get faster than him, never surpass him in strength, the only reason adam even lost the fight is due to blood going into his eyes, his fight with saitama isn't even going to last long enough to put stress on them regardless. In short Medaka can win with hax or straight up fist fight, Adam just one shots and never gets tagged.
@@MasterChief-ie2xu Garou tried to copy saitama infinitely, saitama was just growwing multiple layers above infinity. Saitama is beyond space and time due to saitama carrying genoses orginal core through when space and time reseted. Genos saids after that, saitama leaped through space and time and would always surpass it to win against cosmic garou. Saitama's anti-hax are so strong that in infinite timelines garou would've always lost, admitted by genos. The pheonix space was'nt a pocket demension, but an abstract spiritaul demension that did'nt interact with reality. And saitama broke through it, bro legit broke abstractness with a physical punch. The reason why hax does'nt work on saitama is because his character, Saitama tried to negate saitama's durability and saitama tanked it easily. Cosmic garou would be a better match to be honest, hes underrated. He has all the power in the universe and can infinitely copy you and could interact with 5th demension hyperspace gates and destroy them. Sadily all the cosmos and haxes was a SUPER bad match up.
@@MasterChief-ie2xubro there's nothing to copy about Saitama. He just is going to win because that's how it is. No amount of plot manipulation can stop that scenario from happening.
@@sayansaha155 and yet hes only galaxy level and literally one of the weakest characters in fiction, stop trying to use the argument of "saitama is supposed to one punch anything so he wins" its stupid, it literally ruins scaling and also doesnt make sense because you could put him vs someone who will always kill their opponent and then what?
Adam's divine reflection only reflects the techniques of the gods though, or did I get that wrong? As far as I'm aware, he shouldn't be able to copy any of Medaka's Abnormalities, especially the ones that aren't physically possible outside of Medaka Box like Fire/Ice or All Fiction for any human. Likewise being the perfect human wouldn't allow him to do so either as being human is detached from being superhuman, and an Abnormality is simply an attachment that goes away after one's teen years, which Adam is well past.
Wow this is interesting. A copy ability that is actually better the Medaka's The End superpower. Aren't those rare to come by. If Adam can copy and manipulate separate cosmological laws and existences to his physiology then his potential is extremely mighty. Would surpassing normal time put Adam's reaction time, combat speed, and mental perception at casually inaccessible or even irreverent speeds? Because that seems like what he would be.
Medaka has a lot of Hax, but she is waaaaay too slow to even comprehend Saitama's and Adam's movement. She'd get packed up, like a toddler in the pen full of pitbulls. Then, Adam would oneshot Saitama and cement his status as an Ultimate Chad/Father.
Saitama got hit with his own punch , I don't think Adam can boost his "copied" attacks, and Saitama out speed flashy flash and awakened garou , so yeah I don't Adam technically "blitzes" Saitama but it would be a great fight.
In my opinion, if they collided, it would cause a paradox since they each get stronger the longer the fight goes on but arguabley adam would be the weakest of the bunch (opinion based on the track record of saitama and medaka) it was shown that even garou copying saitama "full" power repeatedly only caused him to ""grow" (air quotes because he is limitless so it's more of him figuring out how much power to actually use) so therefore it would eventually just erase existence which is also a paradox because if you are infinitely powerful could you live without existence-
Also no hate but in a long term fight saitama would win but if it was a quick battle where goku was serious (He usually isn't serious to start out with) saitama would lose because it seems like the only way he could lose is if something was just so much stronger then he "currently is" (Great plot idea don't know if it's true but if it is then it would give saitama a fight he can truly enjoy the fullest to)
@@wander1139 They were already about to stop working, can we be sure that they would have kept working until he defeated Zeus if it wasn't for that drop of blood?
bro book maker would just bounce of of saitama lol and he would be like "can you stop bothering me im tryna go plaly video games" and one punch medeka put ok man
Saitama doesn’t always one shot his opponent which is proven by Cosmic Fear and Monster Garou. Adam also survived attacks from Adamus Zeus, who’s attacks were also described as one shot. Adam’s eyes would only get overwhelmed if the fight somehow dragged on for too long but Saitama isn’t strong enough to push Adam that far
@@BUR404 The thing is, the attack described as one-shot because it is unavoidable (RoR standard) and so strong (RoR standard), it's like saying Saitama's time travel punch is unavoidable because the narrator said so lol. That's just kinda stupid. Adam got the W simply because Zeus survived the big bang (or he simply did because he was in heaven), RoR is basically statements but no actual visual feats.
@@user-om3pk8ts4j If someone's throwing beyond speed punches, then they Power-up Then of course, they will get stronger, so he's dodging punches that are undodgeble Also the gods from the mythologies are the same as in the manga This has been shown multiple times from chapter 1 So no saitama is getting washed he even realises what happened
@@user-om3pk8ts4jIn Saitama’s case, it’s a reversal of causality, where the effect happened before the cause. How can you dodge or avoid something that has already hit you? In RoR, the fastest punch that Adam and Zeus have thrown (when there is a time indicator) is within 1×10^−21 seconds and is called ‘Fist that Surpassed Time’. That’s fast, faster than the DC Flash’s perception, which is within an attosecond (1×10^−18 seconds). But if you are really super-fast enough, then you can dodge or avoid the "Fist that Surpassed Time" since you will still perceive a punch coming. In the reversal of causality (the zero punch), there is no coming punch to dodge, you can't perceive it, you can't feel it coming, because the punch has already landed before it was even thrown.
Another BUR video W Bob beats them all. Idea: For another video of Unstoppable Forces Collide, why not do the smartest characters? You showed Danganronpa earlier, why not take one of the charactets there and pit them against other smart characters in fiction? Just a suggestion though.
Not really? Medaka would body him with her millions-billions of unique and reality bending powers. She can also copy vector control and use it 120% better then he can Adam would also copy vector control (If he can copy abilities) and use it just as well or better then Accelerator
Using vector control against Accelerator isn't going to do anything to him, That's irrelevant. And Accelerator can destroy magical concepts with ease. He is also capable of destroying everything in Touma's right arm. If he fought Touma again in a serious fight he would easily win, Accelerator has been considered equal to Magic Gods on several occasions. All his weaknesses have been dealt with too, so there is no way to touch him. All proven by RUclipsr Othinus.
Accelerator fighting Medaka and Adam is like Accelerator fighting himself except they have perception beyond the concept of time, can do it better and have like a billion different abilities (probably 1 million different abilities similar to or better then vector control). They can’t touch Accelerator but he wouldn’t be able to touch them either. Maybe Accelerator wouldn’t be easy to take down but it definitely wouldn’t be one-sided. Plus what is Blud gonna do if Medaka pulls out an imagine breaker level power nullification ability 💀
@@BUR404 His Platnuim wings would deal with the negation ability as we have seen that Aiwass can hold back imagine breaker with the Platnuim wings, Probably due to the fact that the Platnuim wings and imagine breaker both come from the pure world.
Even if we take the ,,Adam universal" argument seriously,Saitama would reach hes level pretty eseally,cuz on one hand,he is already in the multi solar system to multi galaxy levels of ranges,so if Adam decides to just toy with Saitama,after 1or 2 punches,Saitama would be in hes level,and Adam would be in the same exact position as Garou,except that Adam has a literall 5-7 min time limit on hes ability,or else he will get hes ass blinded,and good luck for him grabbing Saitama's hair lol Medaka's only win con is existence erasure against Saitama,or if after the power null,she just goes for the oneshoot,and i'lk tell you why: The limiter is a concept,a barrier that God given to all beings and Saitama just removed it to the point,my guy in a massively ftl fight against Garou who can instantly copy hes stats,just straight up outgrown Garou's instant ability. Reminder,Garou wasn't stop cuz he was tired,or somthing,he couldn't keep up with Saitama's growth rate What it has to do with a Saitama vs Medaka match up? Medaka power nulls,toys with Saitama,but cuz she can't put back the limiter on Saitama's growth potential,one or two seconds,or missed attacks,and badabim badaboom,Saitama oneshoots her,and before somebody asks if Saitama wouldn't start to toy with Medaka...possible,but I don't think she would survive,or at least she would get knocked out First is Orochii,who tear a large portion of the earts core,was one shooted by Saitama,and that bastard even had regen at hes desposal. The same guy's attack was calculated anywhere from multi continental to small planetary Secondly Gorgoil Garou was also knocked out by Saitama pretty eseally,the same monstrocuty in hes weakest form was stronger than sage centipede who was stronger than Orochii,do to the fact God made him from Orochii's remnant with the mission,,to kill the fist that turned against God". Even if you're ganna assume each transformation is a 1.5 times multiplyer,you get Gorgoil Garou somewhere 5 to 7 times stronger than Orochii,and Garou got knocked outh by a consecutive normal punch combo,what doesn't even had killing intend behind it. Also you brought up at the other two just how good they are at learning skills from the opponent,and master they're technique better than the user. But what abouth Saitama??? The same guy who copied Garou's martial art style just to mock him... The same Garou who's entire thing is to master the opponents technique better than the opponent,and the best martial artist in the entire verse,get hes cheecks stat and SKILL STOMPED by Saitama who never was in a dojo in hes entire life And many more arguments just this comment is already too long and I don't wan't it to be that long... But at the end,I don't say Saitama wins 100%,there is definiately ways to kill him,like Medaka's EE,but in this video I felt like you made Saitama dirty on porpouse especially how you talked abouth him in your video
You forgot Medaka’s main character status allowed her to even be above the likes of Ajimu, even if she lost all her powers she would beat Adam. Adam doesn’t have the feats to copy all fiction either
Wasn't Ajimu still more powerful than her? And for what I remember, she did lose some fights, I'm not sure that she would defeat Adam without having her abilities
@@davidedavide2100 Ajimu stated that, because Medaka is the hero, the main character of a shonen manga, she wouldn't be able to win against Medaka. Not because she is weaker or anything(as Ajimu itself said that everything that Medaka has could be countered easily), but because Medaka's existence makes she be at the top in the end. She's the "Hero", the "Main character". Sure, can lose, but that will either result in a better outcome later on, or will make her want to train, just for her to get a training boost. Remember Shonen tropes. She may lose here and there, but she will be at the top in the end. Infact, Ajimu herself has literal skills based on narrative aspects. Such as friendship, flashback, and so on. And going by the fact that Medaka doesn't like to use Martial Arts, because those are made by humans to fight, and she doesn't see herself as human, makes a great narrative point. The "Monster" who came from humans, fighting both the human who transcended his own limits, and the origin of all humans themselves. It could go either one of two ways: She either wins, to show her narrative representation of "Monster" over humans and that she must never stop helping people to make up for that. Or she loses in the first half, but her *literal and canonical* Plot Armor kicks in and she gains a Power boost.
@@viniciushenrique6672 - Ajimu also said that she would have killed Medaka and that winning isn't always a matter of fighting abilities, so I think that she didn't mean that Medaka would defeat her in a fight of powers, but this is a fight of powers, so I think that what Ajimu said doesn't matter in this case, no? - Theoretically, even other characters can become better, if we consider even this thing certain debates would basically never end, no? So, I think that we should consider the characters like they are now, or am I wrong? - Didn't she say that she doesn't like using martial arts only when she is in her War God Mode?
It's a thematic battle about perfect humans cross verses It's not a power scaling video of "he has bigger feats, so of course he wins" That's not the point of the video It's a match up of "unstoppable forces" aka absurd powers colliding, just like any other video on the series
I understand your take of Saitama vs Adam, as even with the way I scale him, still loses to the Father of Mankind, but he is SEVERELY downplayed in this video you have. Saitama could get to solar-system and MFTL at a lowball, but you've stuck him at Planet level and Light speed? that's just disrespectful.
He hasn’t shown any solar-system level feats as far as I’m aware. There was that panel with all the stars missing but we don’t actually know if his serious punch is what did that. There’s too much uncertainty around it and it makes more sense that the serious punch squared just destroyed and bent the light in that direction The only MFTL feat he’s shown is landing on Jupiter’s moon in a couple seconds but that seems more related to the kickback of Serious Punch Squared and not a speed he can move at normally
@@BUR404 It was the energy of their fists colliding that blanked out the stars after Blast and his team redirected it away from Earth. And the FTL feats up to MFTL speeds stem with his constant growth-rate, permanent-solidification of upscaling every feat shown, and how he was fast enough to see the back of his head in a mirror while he still had hair; being flung to and jumping back from the moon; Genos dodging lasers; Garou fighting against and, even before his monsterization, was somewhat keeping up with Orochi, who was able to blitz and one-shot Roach-man with his tendrils, someone who was confident in being able to dodge even light-based attacks; Garou fighting against both Flashy Flash (who was weakened without his sword but is capable of casually fighting at light speed) and Platinum S, someone that blitzed most of the Class S heroes in his area and knocked Flashy Flash out of the equation before Garou went ahead to speed-blitz-one-shot Plat S right after. The constellation (for lack of a better term) caused by their sheer speed that rose from the ground all the way up to the atmosphere was calced to be around 90x FTL, and this was before Cosmic Fear Garou. On Jupiter's moon, after flipping up the surface and performing Omni-Directional serious punch began to knock Garou around all the floating rocks and formed another constellation that stretched across the entire moon, which was then scaled to be around 250x FTL. This isn't even taking into account the boost he's getting mid-battle, but going off how strong he is in the moment, as there's no telling how much stronger/faster he had truly gotten at that point.
@@BUR404 Y'know the manga panel when narrator start explaining the time travel. The manga panel with the statements - “Reversal of causality” “Absolutely unavoidable” The illustration of that manga panel was actually the hole getting filling up with stars and other celestial bodies or *reversed* as time was moving backward.
Once again out of all these three there's going to be one that's going to be dead in a second and thats saitama he has potential to be stronger and may copy but thats it. Adam and medaka can copy both of their abilities without any hesitation so unfortunately this comes down to just the pure stat which is medaka and
ok i'm gonna gave a small explanation on why Adam's copying ability =/= Cosmic Garou's Copying Ability Garou himself has stated that he cannot copy or master something that is OF a god like Time Manipulation and stuff (this doesn't mean he can't use it at all he literally used it on Saitama) on top of that unlike Adam Garou when Garou copies an ability it takes him a min to make a better of that technique while Adam instantly copies the technique before the oppoent can fully use and it's better then the orignal unlike Adam Garou cannot copy DNA/Biological stuff ok now that's clear i wanna make something else clear idk about Madaka that much so i won't say anything but Adam vs Saitama is just not even close comparing them is basically like comparing the earth's moon to the biggest Galaxy in the Universe now fnally for the joke the fight won't happen bcz Adam will bring THE BELT
Given everything, I'd say Adam would win with high difficulty purely because he could copy both of their abilities as soon as they showed them, and even though Saitama's my favorite here, he is unequivocally 3rd place 😢
@@1wayroadAccel.it's true but they lack of automatic defense system who act instant so it's yogiri doing nothing kills the source of intent and harm whenever universe are you💀🤭
Saitama was already faster than cosmic garou even when he was mftl and using hyperspace gate to escape saitama was already their at another end of portal before garou ,To make thing worse garou literally copied saitama stats and even improved them merged them with gravity knuckle punch ,Black holes , Radiation and then he hit saitama but saitama was unscratched even with so much amps added yo his own punches ,So adam copying saitama strength to hit him would be completely useless ,Plus the moment saitama starts growing its end for adam
Would surpassing normal time put Adam's reaction time, combat speed, and mental perception at casually inaccessible or even irreverent speeds? Because that seems like what he would be.
I don’t really know but Adam’s speed feat definitely makes him one of the fastest characters in fiction. Probably Top 10 behind Flash, Silver Surfer and Archie Sonic
@@wangawangekilundu3489 They are the speed tiers which come after infinite. This is how it is defined in the characters stats and profiles speed page. Inaccessible (The ability to move distances, whether finite or infinite, in zero time without the aid of teleportation. This is usually achieved by moving in places outside of time or places where time doesn't flow.) Irrelevant (Being so fast that the concept of speed is irrelevant. Speed qualitatively beyond the concept of distance, exceeding the entirety of the speed formula itself.
I don’t think these guys will even bother fighting saitama as they will consider him weak that can put him in in an advantage as he will be able to grow his power faster so saitama wins
Medaka cooks both their verses 💀Adam can't copy her conceptual abilities there's no proof he can do that and even if he could first move technically gives her immeasurable speed through hax as it literally just gives her the first move regardless of speed Saitama.....won't even mention him he's like Goku just not built to fight characters with crazy conceptual hax like this
Which of her hax's are conceptual? And tell me if she got the ,,first move " what does she usually start with? I bet she won't just start with a one shoot move like EE,and Saitama only needs to tuch her and she got vaporized
@@shawn96mc23 Literally any ability Ajimu has used, she's managed to copy. And Ajimu has such a wide variety of conceputal abilities I'd be here all day listing them. Things like time manip, conceptual manip, literally becoming God or the Devil, nigh omnipresence & nigh omniscience, law manip, casuality manip, etc etc those are just a few of the literal 10s of thousands of skills Medaka has available
Adam wins. Both him and medaka will have on activation 120% copies of every skill including saitama limit breaking but adam isn't a human but a perfect copy of gods and male giving him advantages over saitama and medaka. saitama would be a limitless male, medaka would be a 120% limitless woman with every skill and adam would be a 120% limitless male demigod. All of them would have incredible will power but adam have existed since the start of creation, defeated gods, have more experience and is the only one with a weapon which is a god killing magic knucle, also his copying skill is on activation and not on seeing the skill which makes him faster than medaka alsmot like the causality breaking punch of saitama. But if medaka and adam can't break their limits like saitama but only copy his attacks like garou he wins. Medaka would only win if only she can copy the limit breaking skill or if she copied adam's eye and used some instakill skill which adam would counter and seh would counter back... or something like that, like a magic counter spell stack. But to do this she would need to see adam use his skill first. And saitama would probably not die from instakills but because he is a gag character and medaka would have to fight with her the end skill at 120% limit breaking making her evolve faster but would be more like 100% growth + other skills. If going by probability i would say adam have the best probability of victory, the medaka and finally saitama considering limit breaking can be copied.
Saitama easily takes this. His invincible one punch power is far too great for Medaka to handle and Adam’s copying abilities should technically only apply to gods.
I got a question about the limitations of conceptual manipulation in other verses where powerscaling is definitely shown not to be outerversal or even multiversal despite whatever logic fallacies and paradigms people like to claim and assert them to be in verses like Fate Stay Night also known as the Nasuverse. Practices which have been unfortunately extremely oversaturated for years now leading to wank and blatant delusions which stem from taking things out of context instead of looking at it more rationally. Often they overscale entire verses hyoer inflating them for no good reason. Here is the scenario and example. If a character from another verse where conceptual manipulation doesn't exist in it's power system were put into another reality with it like the Nasuverse and this character scales has something like outerspace manipulation and can scale to quasar tier or super massive blackhole attack potency, destructive capacity, durability, endurance, and recovery to survive them and move at a hundred million times Faster Then the Speed of Light in both reflects and mental perception speed and all his abilities are distinct from that reality's power system could they overwhelm that verse's conceptual abilities and tank them like whatever Gilgamesh, Scathach, Solomon, or Archetype Earth could throw at them? Since they haven't shown being at such a physical stage. I doubt Fate's conceptual manipulation system would instantly harm him under those conditions and they should possess limitations especially if he isn't bound to their magic system then that verse's magic system powers of authority manipulation may not work on him in a haxing sense since it wouldn't not have any authority over him and would have to have the relative attack potency instead to remotely restrain him. If you think about it alot of external fictional characters would be the equivalent of that to other verses. If you put Mori Jin from The God of Highschool into the Nasuverse he would be a anomaly to the whole created magic system of the Nasuverse not bound or restrained by the established parameters since he is distinguished from them.
"sense of style"
Adam and his leaf:
Peak fashion
@@cash2474the original
My only fashion is my body
"I call it, the Fig Nudist!"
The Queen, King, And Hero
Oh! It's Nice To See You Here My Friend!👍
Adam is no king he is the Origin Point or the beginning of all
The Queen, Hero and Dad
The Queen, the Hero and the Dick Master.
The Queen, the Father, and the Hero
Madaka: Alright it’s time to put you down!
Saitama: Who are you? Do you want to fight?
Adam: Now now kids. I won’t allow my children to hurt each other. Madaka/Saitama: CHILDREN?!?
Adam: Yeah that's right, everything started from these fucking balls!
@maxstorm3625 lmao is that hazbin hotel reference?
@@EditorFromOhio🤣I'm dying, I actually just realised that
mf its not "Madaka" it's Medaka😭😭😭😭🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@@maxstorm3625 Figma Balls!
Damn, it's hard because Adam can copy any powers, abilities, and techniques, even if it's beyond time, and Medaka could copy Adam back.
I’d say Eyes of the Lord/Divine Reflection is vastly superior to The End
@@BUR404 I was going off of Medaka copying android enhancements, letting her copy anything. So it would be Adam, and Medaka copying everything off of each other. (also they could copy Saitama to remove the limitations on their bodies.)
@@BUR404Real Question though: Could she copy Eyes of the Lord? If so, how would it vary from The End and would it sway the fight one way or the other?
@Master_E444 The eyes don’t have any similarities to abnormalities as far as I’m aware. It’s not a talent or something that can be gained through time or hardship. It appears to be more of a biological organ that was created for him by a higher power and I don’t think Medaka can copy biological stuff like this
@@BUR404 fair. Though given the range of other abilities she's copied, several of which have organic components, it wouldn't surprise me if she could. I don't know if it'd change the result either. Though ironically if skill and talent is the bench mark, she might be able to copy and improve on Saitama's growth rate.
The interesting thing with the eyes of the lord is that it not only copies the technique but holds zero requirements to use them. He doesn't need the specifcations other need to use the ability itself. An example using Gojo would be Adam using Hollow purple inspite of not having cursed energy or the limitless or even the six eyes. And not only does it not need requirements it also is copied to perfection itself, bringing out the utter maximum potential of the technique without any further room for improvement on the technique whatsoever. Combine this instantaneous perfection with Adams ability to copy without being restricted by requirements and his eyes of the lords perception speed being literally faster than the concept of time. Its honestly ABSURD just how strong he is. But another thing is in theory he could also copy genetic traits as we see him use the serpents hand on his right hand which changes the hands physiology momentarily. So for example in theory he could say copy Goku's genetical ability to have a zenkai boost to power up after sustaining damage and healing from it later. Adam is simply so broken its genuinely unreal.
I’m not certain but doesn’t the eyes of the Lord only work on gods?
@dallaspowell6313 no, it worked on the serpent too
@@BUR404 in the series the differences between demons and gods can be pretty thin at times, I wouldn’t be surprised if the two species were close enough for the purpose of the Eyes of the Lord. But I guess that’s just speculation on my part.
@@Nephilim1717 I think they are pretty different from each other, tho we've never seen him use it on humans, so that might mean it's impossible, who knows tho
But Medaka' ability would Copy Adam's eyes at the 120% of them making them Copy Better (?). I think It would come tò a Battle of copying each other abilities but at the end i would give Medaka the victory. Except if Adam could Copy Medaka's " The end". In that case idk the outcome
cannonically this fight wouldn't even occur, since Adam has demonstrated the ability to make every human cry just from a few words and the fact that he loves humanity (as a father) he would likely just stop the fight and be like "my children, please stop fighting, this isn't good for us" and if any resist a little bit of the belt that you've recieved when bringing home bad notes at school would fix the problem :D /J (joke)
Honestly rather enjoy this one from the perspective of possible interactions once this fight would be finished. I don't see them going lethal or even if they do, it could be undone via all fiction erasing the deaths. Once Saitama sees there's these two better then him, I see him being reinvigorated to try and get stronger once again with a new lease on life. Medaka having potentially seen a similarly discontent soul who felt empty due to always winning helps him to get better and channel his power into helping others like she did. Adam I could definitely see being similarly encouraging to two of his kids who approach him in power, hoping to one day see them surpass him. After all, what father wouldn't want to see their children succeed where they failed.
Well said!!
@@BUR404 I like to think of interesting narrative elements to vs fights like this. I see it as fun to add another layer to an already interesting and complex scenario. Also helps to thematically link them, both in power and story. Adam is the ultimate father figure who'd do anything to help his children, Medaka is someone who helps others achieve what they want due to a lack of purpose or challenge, Saitama is a guy who achieved what he wanted too early and now just fights villains for fun. There's enough of a link there for interesting interactions.
@@BUR404question when was it decided that she's no longer lightspeed because I'm pretty sure that she's faster than someone that can shoot a beam of light to space
@@Keith_Norman As far as I'm aware, she is. And that doesn't even matter, as through All Fiction, she can easily make the time needed for something to happen, into nothing, literally moving into 0 seconds(In short, an improvised version of Adam's "Fist that Surpassed Time").
@@Keith_Norman Is Medaka really faster than Ajimu?
It is hard to tell because Saitama is mostly immune to any hax thrown at him like the dimension, hyperspace, and even telekinesis from Tatsumaki.
I also forgot to mention that each time he copy technique from Garou, it is miles superior to their original. This is why it is wired to power scale Saitama because he does not follow the normal logic of other anime characters or the protagonists of another anime character like born with that power and to trained and fight to get more power or born with that power and train how to use its full potential. Saitama power is just..... because he has it as he doesn't need to do anything and he is still getting stronger each passing seconds.
Negation nail? He'd crush it
Copying him? He'd surpass it
His nature has a creative, simple way to deal with any trick.
Basicly tricks and power levels are futile.
@@badguy1373 The moment Saitama struggles to actually land a punch and if Adam decides to toy around with Saitama and playfully hit him with registers to Saitama as actual pain he would begin to grow exponentially like HELL. Approximately 80x(estimation Galaxies destroyed in the serious punch squared feat) to the power of intervals during the power graph in the Garou vs Saitama fight. 80^7 = 20 trillion (excluding extra digits) divided by the number of galaxies in the universe = 5 observable universes of power by the final 7th intervals. And if both individuals are around 63,000xFTL as one has once calculated before. Their reaction time should be in around nanoseconds. 20 trillion (excluding extra digits) divided by 7 is 2,857,142,857,140 and given there are 7 intervals by the 1st he was about 2,857,142,857,140^1.071125 = 20 trillion (excluding extra digits) which is the 7th interval. And given how this is nanoseconds time you'd have to power the Number of potential galaxy destruction by 1.071125 over and over for a billion times since a nanosecond is a billionth of a second. and then divide that by the number of galaxies in the observable universe. I'm not going to calculate the same thing over a billion times because I mean, who would? 💀
*But to clear my case up is am curious in what Adam and medaka can do against Saitama's exponential growth*
Also, I think the idea of Saitama's character is that he is just plainly insanely strong ofc. But also, that he makes the fights fair. He literally ripped through Garou's fancy hyperspace portal and copying technique with minimum difficulty the same way he broke into phoenix man's inner pocket dimension.
Any Hax you have that would make the fight unfair Saitama would negate it to make it fair.
But hey who the hell knows if Saitama can get around Medakas Hax's who knows?
@@SpedSukuna also when saitama vs orochis battle, first he felt the lava then he said "I adgested"
Imagine this line being dropped after any instakill ability.
Also in absolute worst case scenario he uses the reverse causality (0 punch) and knock anyone's base form down (I don't think it will be necessary)
The way Saitama is evolving in the manga, I have no doubt at all that in 1 year Saitama will become 100x more powerful
In a year there’ll be 2 new chapters lol 💀
@@muckyesyesindisguise3854 ehh not really it's already 7 ch last year
My guy get from low balled Mountain Range Demolisher to Large Planet Buster(High Ball Multi Galaxy Buster) in less than a day 100× is beyond understatement
"I don't get it
I'm countering with as much power
But the next hit hits even harder
I can't keep up? "
That purple haired woman and Blonde guy just starts to straight up bully Saitama by copying his strength to it's "perfect form" but after sometime Saitama starts overpowering them. This is what I imagined.
Actually the light speed statements were rebunked when Hinokages theme song was described to be as fast as Kurokami phantom without the drawbacks of it damaging the users body and was described as a skill that lets the user move at ftl speeds and several other ftl statements in the manga. Medaka just lied about it not being that fast.
Right, I forgot she likes to downplay herself
Exactly.
wouldn't change anything because god's speed is still higher tier
@@Vins_. Which god? The featless OPM one or Zeus?
@@Vins_. saitama or adam don't really have anything to counter all fiction
I feel like Medaka was very lowballed stat wise, and you didn't even go into any ftl arguments for her and said it was invaild without proving it, but this is a good video. i just think Medakw would win
To be fair, a character within the manga is the one that said she isn’t FTL
@BUR404 I wouldn't take that statement like that since there are multiple other statements in manga scans I have seen that contradict that, and to my knowledge, her ap is at least universal
@@imthecoolest3884madaka would be defeated negative diff
@@Vins_. why?
@@BUR404 Who said it and when?
Banger video again 🔥. You had me in the end. lol i thought Medaka won. I can't wait for episode 6
Wait what do you mean she did not win?
In my personal opinion, Adam loses against most characters in fiction. Not because he is weak, but because for him fighting a human is almost like fighting a child you raised and loved
Yeah, Adam would not try to win, but fight at an equal level and gradually getting stronger and stronger to help his children grow to their fullest potential then choose to lose.
Tough he could beat someone like goku who isn't human
I can see Saitama again taking out second because if she’s caught in a death loop, she has no way out. That’s one of the weaknesses of her ability
Medaka's The End ability copying the skills of Saitama and Adam would be insane how do you achieve a perfect version of someone whos main trait is breaking their limiter
No, not really. Medaka can't just copy someone's raw strength/speed unless it's an ability that isn't intrinsic to the persons species, so if she tried to copy Goku she wouldn't become a Super Saiyan, but more so be able to use ki. Same thing with skill, she can't just copy Goku's combat skill unless it was an abnormal ability.
@@sizweshongwe7312 Didn’t she copy android enhancements one time?
Next unstoppable force collides idea: Saber, Dante, Kratos and Doomguy. Please ? Stronger than the myths.
Maybe spawn and Asura too ? Who knows ? I just want to see who wins.
I don’t think he’s doing characters that aren’t mangas or anime, but he may surprise us
Something else not really stated here is the only reason why he lost. The fight is because the blood got into his eyes. They would’ve just continue going forever. The only reason why that happened was because the blood. And if you could look it up, Greek god‘s blood is extremely poisonous.
I'm pretty sure that the blood made him lose his eyesight, because his eyes were already weakened by how much did he use them and the level of the attacks he copied, so they wouldn't have kept going forever. And Zeus' blood should make those who are real heroes become more powerful, Adam wasn't a real hero?
When saitama and adam become baki and yujiro relationship: because adam is curious how saitama will grow if they fight
Well Adam was actually alive 7 million years ago in RoR.
It’s possible that the nature of a broken limiter and the power gained is due to the circumstances surrounding the break through. Such as Zombie man probably was fed up with the experimentations and thought he didn’t want to die during the entire process. Resulting in his immortality while Saitama who could already defeat monsters that required A class hero’s pre training. Thought about how fun it would be to be the strongest hero capable of defeating any opponent he faced. Creating a power to defy the laws of physics allowing him to always withstand any attack he takes and is always able to defeat any opponent in one punch. Even surpassing the laws of causality and travel back and time to win the fight against cosmic Goro by throwing zero punches. If this is the case the moment Adam copies it both of them will infinitely scale off each other throwing paradox attacks like it’s nothing.
Well the rever causality punch is not something saitama can just spam as he forgot about when he returned to the present.Adam as infinite speed and could copy his growth better then garou and would end up winning.
@@wangawangekilundu3489
Garou never copied his growth
He did copy his growth, he kept copying it but saitama just kept outgrowing him exponentially. Garou stated that he kept copying his exact power, but the next punch just kept hitting harder, and eventually one of those punches was going to one shot him.@@z-ero
I personaly loved the name they gave the eyes before eyes of the lord in spanish traslation, Theology
Idea for the next unstoppable forces collide : Altaïr vs Ajimu Najimi vs Featherine
Featherine cleans house 💀
@@CoffinOfPeakFiction nah i think Ajimu has a chance
saitama's downplay is crazy
he can potentially have a chance
He literally gave him the whole gag character argument that is his highest form of scaling lmao
There is no downplay here he just actually loses
@@Thegreatlordofall adam copied zeus who is mftl+ and he failed due to his lack of durability and stamina 😂
@@mahdi7211 and saitama is MFTL+
Zeus has a punch that trancends time itself
Adam was able to react and mimick this same punch
Adam just wipes lmfao
@@Thegreatlordofall transcending time means your punches hit before it thrown or doing something that does not suppose to happen at that time and going at any point in time and going in places that are beyound time.
moving in 0.0000000000000000000000000000001th of a seconed does not make you time transcendence cuz you are already moving in that time
In Reality medaka probaly wins this easily like later in the manga it literally just turned into power scaling shenanigans. She is so broken.
Search for commenting so much but that was a mental space that saitama walked into not a pocket dimension
So he walked inside his brain?
@@BUR404 no it's sort of like a weaker domain expansion
Wouldn't Medaka be able to copy eyes of divinity from Adam since they are some sort of talent that Adam was born/created with?
The eyes are more of a biological trait gifted to him when he was created. They aren’t manifested through hardship or talent which Medaka relies on for her ability. I don’t think Medaka can copy biological traits either.
Ahh I see,thank you for the reply
@@BUR404 would that mean saitama's growth/adaptation is out of the question as well?
@Raijin550 Growth rate and adaptation isn’t a biological trait but I’m not entirely sure if Medaka can copy Saitama’s limit breaking. Garou could (and failed) so it’s not far fetched
@@BUR404 not really Garou couldn't ether he only copied Stats of Saitama each time Saitama got one shot stronger unlike Adam's copyng ability Garou can't copy something that's above or OF God like time manpulation and stuff which he even admits himself
It's worth mentioning (I'm not sure if it's brought up, I haven't finished the video) that Saitama is likely a lot more resistant to hax than we see, considering he has literally breached into a dreamscape, meaning he can exist in a state where he, by no means, should exist. That and also his soul is very heavy and resilient, seeing how Tatsumaki can't do anything to him. It is 100% possible that he could win this fight, at least against Medaka. I do believe Adam would lose against Saitama, if the fight is drawn out, it would simply be a stalemate, considering how we see an attack of the same strength as Saitama do nothing to him.
Well not really if you look at the graph presented in his fight against cosmic garou,saitama was slightly stronger then garou from the moment the fight started but started to leave him in the dust.So it not that he doesn’t take damage from enemies equal to him more so he was taking realy low damage from a guy slightly weaker then him.
It feels like saitama and madaka got one part of adam while adam got both
Adam: hax & strength
Madaka: hax
Saitama: strength
First hit ability get bypassed by zero punch. As because the effect come before the cause. First hit ability stopt the cause NOT the effect.
Lore accurate cat army (from the battle cats) still wins :/
Why how strong is it?
They have gaia (the creator of the universe in mythology) filibuster (an enemy turned friend that can destroy the universe in one attack) anubis (god of death) hades (god of the underworld) metafilibuster (an alternate form of filibuster that can project a hologram of himself to an alternate universe to destroy it, and many more.
normal ppl when 120% potential:😊
jjk fans:💀
Yogiri Takatou : model of a pesticide commercial 💀
Adam is by far the fastest, Saitama has his anti hax feats and Medaka's haxes
Considering Adam's beyond time reaction I can't even tell if her haxes would work
Wasn't he able to react to The Fist That Surpasses Time due to his Eyes Of The Lord? If I remember well, and if she doesn't hold back, some of Medaka's skills aren't things that can be seen. For example, All Fiction just happens, it isn't something actually visible, unless Adam can copy it by seeing himself getting erased, but he shouldn't be able to nullify it anymore, no?
@@davidedavide2100 then again, the fists that surpass time aren't really anything unique, it's a punch that is so fast that time moves backwards, in that sense the punch itself shouldn't be able to be seen. Plus I doubt that the eyes that can legit dodge through time being unable to see meta attacks, plus for someone to legit match Zeus in speed I doubt he would even let her have the chance
@@butters461 Wasn't it an attack that stops time? What do you mean that it makes time move backwards? Like I already wrote, for what I understood he could react to the attack with his eyes, which work by seeing the attack, so how could he negate her attack, how could he be fast enough, if she does something which can't be seen, because there isn't anything to see?
@@davidedavide2100 Basically, the faster you move, the slower time moves, moving faster than light, time moves backwards since its obvious Zeus moves faster than light and its "The fist that transcends time" not "the fist that stops time" its obvious that time moves backwards and thats how Zeus won againstChronos
Zeus doesn't have the ability to manipulate time, its legit a speed feat
@@butters461 For what I remember, Zeus couldn't use TFTST when he fought against his father, the latter used it and Zeus learned it later. Anyway, my doubt was, doesn't "time moves backwards" mean that it gets rewind, like something that had already happened, happen again instead of something new which should have happened?
19:38 The who??
WAIT THE CHAPTER IS CALLED BALDI'S BASIC'S NO WAY
thats hilarious
This arguable but Medaka wins. Due to in the manga she was able to tank Iihiko’s attacks that was stated to be irreversible as well on a another dimension. As well as copying a portion of Ajimu’s skills around one billion skills. To also equally as fast as Kumagawa who’s speed is stated to be able to move at non existent with time speed = immeasurable.
All fun and games till you remember Adam can copy any and everything on top of being able to dodge the attack while landing the same attack back at you at it's perfected state. Speed wise Adam scales beyond the concept of time itself, where time ceases to exist, he's still faster. What Adamn & Zeus was doing was a straight up more impressive feat than flash running across the galaxy and arriving before he left, in short Adam is not only immaeasurable but scales beyong that.
@@MasterChief-ie2xu sure, but are his punches beyond cause and effect? Medaka's are while using all fiction. So really they are going pummel each other with undodgeble punches untill someone goes down, assuming they are both going for the kill. Medaka's durability should also be relative to Adams as she scales above Ajimu who also tanked the big bang. Here's the thing tho can Adam finish the job and kill Medaka? I don't see it to my knowledge he has no way of bypassing medaka's several immortalities.
@@nonamepetkoSorry, what do you mean that Medaka's punches are beyond cause and effect with All Fiction? All Fiction erases cause and effect, right? Is erasing something the same as being beyond it? And when was it stated and/or demonstrated that Medaka's durability is equal to Ajimu's one and that she scales above her?
And which immortalities did Medaka have aside from All Fiction, the vibrations of Styles, theorically Encounter and maybe Death Meeting, Undead Genius and the skill to not age (I don't remember it's name), to be sure that I'm not forgetting some of them?
@@davidedavide2100 I meant above cause not effect as when Medaka uses all fiction she can erase the cause of her throwing a punch making the punch undodgeble. She has several other minuses that she showcases from the top of my mind probably the best one she can use in this fight is five forks, realistically she should also have every other minus she has laid eyes on.
Same reason why Adam has universal at least durability, AP = Durability unless explicitly stated otherwise.
Adam can damage Zeus so he has Uni AP and durability
Medaka can damage Ajimu so she has Uni AP and durability.
@@davidedavide2100 ah I read immortalities as abnormalities, yea those are it unless I forget about something.
Medaka slam's by a landslide and sit on top of both their pile of dead bodies
Wrong
Oh please
@@Subject-D79 how are the other two going to counter conceptual erasure
Just you wait for the end of OPM where Saitama proves to be Invulnerable and kills God with One Punch ending the entire Multiverse😤
Nice vid!
Having Saitama's scaling at planetary and speed at near light speed is such a low ball. He is easily ftl to mftl and his strength/ap is at minimum multi solar system and could potentially be multi galactic. Also his raw existence is so potent that most hax have little to no effect. Sub spaces, hyper spaces, soul relms, durability negation, telepathy, telekinesis, poison, radiation, and more. Just got to the portion you mentioned these.
he probably haven't read opm i think
The problem with saitama in this fight is that it's a mis-match. Like Adam & Medaka are straight up stronger, and faster than him to the point that they can blitz and 1 shot without even needing any hax. Also the the reason hax doesn't work on saitama is because he hasn't fought anyone stronger than him, in this case they're bought just plain and simply superior.
"If the fight goes on saitama will out grow them" Yea no not in this one, both of his opponents are capable of not only copying him, but also using his own attacks beyond it's maximum potential.
To touch further on "He can surpass them", Medaka is quite literally one of the most haxed characters in fiction, to the points where she's 100s of different abilities, those one which can neg saitama by literally simply erasing him from existence. Even if you go down the route of "hax don't work on him" again she is plain and simply faster & stronger than him, on top of having abilites that can amp her physical stats. It's no contest, Idk if you read all of medaka box series but this video low balled her.
As for Adam, well he simply straight up 1 shots if he uses any of zeus moves, every hit he landed in that fight surpasses anything saitama has ever done or tanked. The fist that surpasses time plain and simply scales above a galaxy wiping attack. Even if he doesn't use any of this saitama will never land a single hit, will never get faster than him, never surpass him in strength, the only reason adam even lost the fight is due to blood going into his eyes, his fight with saitama isn't even going to last long enough to put stress on them regardless.
In short Medaka can win with hax or straight up fist fight, Adam just one shots and never gets tagged.
@@MasterChief-ie2xu Garou tried to copy saitama infinitely, saitama was just growwing multiple layers above infinity.
Saitama is beyond space and time due to saitama carrying genoses orginal core through when space and time reseted.
Genos saids after that, saitama leaped through space and time and would always surpass it to win against cosmic garou.
Saitama's anti-hax are so strong that in infinite timelines garou would've always lost, admitted by genos. The pheonix space was'nt a pocket demension, but an abstract spiritaul demension that did'nt interact with reality. And saitama broke through it, bro legit broke abstractness with a physical punch.
The reason why hax does'nt work on saitama is because his character, Saitama tried to negate saitama's durability and saitama tanked it easily. Cosmic garou would be a better match to be honest, hes underrated. He has all the power in the universe and can infinitely copy you and could interact with 5th demension hyperspace gates and destroy them. Sadily all the cosmos and haxes was a SUPER bad match up.
@@MasterChief-ie2xubro there's nothing to copy about Saitama. He just is going to win because that's how it is. No amount of plot manipulation can stop that scenario from happening.
@@sayansaha155 and yet hes only galaxy level and literally one of the weakest characters in fiction, stop trying to use the argument of "saitama is supposed to one punch anything so he wins" its stupid, it literally ruins scaling and also doesnt make sense because you could put him vs someone who will always kill their opponent and
then what?
Saitama follows no sense. His character is uncanny gagish.
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This dad joke about milk XD
Adam's divine reflection only reflects the techniques of the gods though, or did I get that wrong? As far as I'm aware, he shouldn't be able to copy any of Medaka's Abnormalities, especially the ones that aren't physically possible outside of Medaka Box like Fire/Ice or All Fiction for any human. Likewise being the perfect human wouldn't allow him to do so either as being human is detached from being superhuman, and an Abnormality is simply an attachment that goes away after one's teen years, which Adam is well past.
Wow this is interesting. A copy ability that is actually better the Medaka's The End superpower. Aren't those rare to come by.
If Adam can copy and manipulate separate cosmological laws and existences to his physiology then his potential is extremely mighty.
Would surpassing normal time put Adam's reaction time, combat speed, and mental perception at casually inaccessible or even irreverent speeds? Because that seems like what he would be.
Medaka has a lot of Hax, but she is waaaaay too slow to even comprehend Saitama's and Adam's movement. She'd get packed up, like a toddler in the pen full of pitbulls. Then, Adam would oneshot Saitama and cement his status as an Ultimate Chad/Father.
Medaka scales way higher than saitama tho, she scales above ajimu najimi who is boundless
@@Novakage-g5nNot boundless but yeah she is pretty powerful
Saitama got hit with his own punch , I don't think Adam can boost his "copied" attacks, and Saitama out speed flashy flash and awakened garou , so yeah I don't Adam technically "blitzes" Saitama but it would be a great fight.
@@humanintheflesh9165Adam literally has inaccessible speed 😭
@@wangawangekilundu3489 Saitama can do that , with his fart.
In my opinion, if they collided, it would cause a paradox since they each get stronger the longer the fight goes on but arguabley adam would be the weakest of the bunch (opinion based on the track record of saitama and medaka) it was shown that even garou copying saitama "full" power repeatedly only caused him to ""grow" (air quotes because he is limitless so it's more of him figuring out how much power to actually use) so therefore it would eventually just erase existence which is also a paradox because if you are infinitely powerful could you live without existence-
Also no hate but in a long term fight saitama would win but if it was a quick battle where goku was serious (He usually isn't serious to start out with) saitama would lose because it seems like the only way he could lose is if something was just so much stronger then he "currently is" (Great plot idea don't know if it's true but if it is then it would give saitama a fight he can truly enjoy the fullest to)
On the subject of Adam I can’t help but feel like his lose could have been handled better. But that is only my opinion.
In my.oppinion hes death was one of the chadest death in anime,I cried hard when he died
Madoka
Who wins? Well, one word. Belt. That is all.
I have been waiting for this.
Adam didn't lose because his body gave out he died because Zeus's blood is poisenes and he got it in his eyes
Didn't he lost for both reasons? Even before that drop of blood hit his eyes, his eyes were already about to stop working, no?
@@davidedavide2100 they stopped working because of the poison
@@wander1139 They were already about to stop working, can we be sure that they would have kept working until he defeated Zeus if it wasn't for that drop of blood?
bro book maker would just bounce of of saitama lol and he would be like "can you stop bothering me im tryna go plaly video games" and one punch medeka put ok man
Medaka claps Saitama tho
Wouldn't she just "resurecct" with All Fiction in this case?
Awesome!😎👍
It said he was there to witness the big bang we don't actually know if he was just in it we can't actually say that he's universal
Can you do Gilgamesh vs ever anime verse?
Every anime verse? That video would be like 5 hours long lol
To be honest all fiction 1 taps both saitama and adam in an instant she outscales both the verses by a landslide
True.
Wait wouldn’t Adam lose to Saitama because every hit from saitama is one shot and his eyes will get overwhelmed
Saitama doesn’t always one shot his opponent which is proven by Cosmic Fear and Monster Garou. Adam also survived attacks from Adamus Zeus, who’s attacks were also described as one shot. Adam’s eyes would only get overwhelmed if the fight somehow dragged on for too long but Saitama isn’t strong enough to push Adam that far
@@BUR404 The thing is, the attack described as one-shot because it is unavoidable (RoR standard) and so strong (RoR standard), it's like saying Saitama's time travel punch is unavoidable because the narrator said so lol. That's just kinda stupid. Adam got the W simply because Zeus survived the big bang (or he simply did because he was in heaven), RoR is basically statements but no actual visual feats.
@@user-om3pk8ts4j
If someone's throwing beyond speed punches, then they Power-up
Then of course, they will get stronger, so he's dodging punches that are undodgeble
Also the gods from the mythologies are the same as in the manga
This has been shown multiple times from chapter 1
So no saitama is getting washed he even realises what happened
@@user-om3pk8ts4jIn Saitama’s case, it’s a reversal of causality, where the effect happened before the cause. How can you dodge or avoid something that has already hit you?
In RoR, the fastest punch that Adam and Zeus have thrown (when there is a time indicator) is within 1×10^−21 seconds and is called ‘Fist that Surpassed Time’. That’s fast, faster than the DC Flash’s perception, which is within an attosecond (1×10^−18 seconds).
But if you are really super-fast enough, then you can dodge or avoid the "Fist that Surpassed Time" since you will still perceive a punch coming.
In the reversal of causality (the zero punch), there is no coming punch to dodge, you can't perceive it, you can't feel it coming, because the punch has already landed before it was even thrown.
Ahh I see
Another BUR video W
Bob beats them all.
Idea: For another video of Unstoppable Forces Collide, why not do the smartest characters? You showed Danganronpa earlier, why not take one of the charactets there and pit them against other smart characters in fiction? Just a suggestion though.
Bob is the true honoured one
@@BUR404Beyond Family and Causality, I am the Non-Causality One.
This is why Powerscalling literally never works
Please make a video about Instant Death's Yogiri Takatou
For all of your videos I have to say this one line xeno Goku solo
I could a video about biblical god and you would still be out here saying this bro 😭
@@BUR404 it my thing 😏👌😏👌
All form of Goku will die...
@@tykothamby5474 nope he would win tay me why he would lose
Heart virus neg dif goku
i really need to see gilgamesh go against someone that would be a equal to him thats not in the verse of fate
GOW Zeus is built different
Wait a second what happened to the progenitors
All three of them get bodied by Accelerator.
Not really? Medaka would body him with her millions-billions of unique and reality bending powers. She can also copy vector control and use it 120% better then he can
Adam would also copy vector control (If he can copy abilities) and use it just as well or better then Accelerator
Using vector control against Accelerator isn't going to do anything to him, That's irrelevant. And Accelerator can destroy magical concepts with ease. He is also capable of destroying everything in Touma's right arm. If he fought Touma again in a serious fight he would easily win, Accelerator has been considered equal to Magic Gods on several occasions. All his weaknesses have been dealt with too, so there is no way to touch him. All proven by RUclipsr Othinus.
The only thing he's "Accelerating" here is his own lifespan, my guy.
Accelerator fighting Medaka and Adam is like Accelerator fighting himself except they have perception beyond the concept of time, can do it better and have like a billion different abilities (probably 1 million different abilities similar to or better then vector control). They can’t touch Accelerator but he wouldn’t be able to touch them either.
Maybe Accelerator wouldn’t be easy to take down but it definitely wouldn’t be one-sided. Plus what is Blud gonna do if Medaka pulls out an imagine breaker level power nullification ability 💀
@@BUR404 His Platnuim wings would deal with the negation ability as we have seen that Aiwass can hold back imagine breaker with the Platnuim wings, Probably due to the fact that the Platnuim wings and imagine breaker both come from the pure world.
Even if we take the ,,Adam universal" argument seriously,Saitama would reach hes level pretty eseally,cuz on one hand,he is already in the multi solar system to multi galaxy levels of ranges,so if Adam decides to just toy with Saitama,after 1or 2 punches,Saitama would be in hes level,and Adam would be in the same exact position as Garou,except that Adam has a literall 5-7 min time limit on hes ability,or else he will get hes ass blinded,and good luck for him grabbing Saitama's hair lol
Medaka's only win con is existence erasure against Saitama,or if after the power null,she just goes for the oneshoot,and i'lk tell you why:
The limiter is a concept,a barrier that God given to all beings and Saitama just removed it to the point,my guy in a massively ftl fight against Garou who can instantly copy hes stats,just straight up outgrown Garou's instant ability. Reminder,Garou wasn't stop cuz he was tired,or somthing,he couldn't keep up with Saitama's growth rate
What it has to do with a Saitama vs Medaka match up?
Medaka power nulls,toys with Saitama,but cuz she can't put back the limiter on Saitama's growth potential,one or two seconds,or missed attacks,and badabim badaboom,Saitama oneshoots her,and before somebody asks if Saitama wouldn't start to toy with Medaka...possible,but I don't think she would survive,or at least she would get knocked out
First is Orochii,who tear a large portion of the earts core,was one shooted by Saitama,and that bastard even had regen at hes desposal. The same guy's attack was calculated anywhere from multi continental to small planetary
Secondly Gorgoil Garou was also knocked out by Saitama pretty eseally,the same monstrocuty in hes weakest form was stronger than sage centipede who was stronger than Orochii,do to the fact God made him from Orochii's remnant with the mission,,to kill the fist that turned against God". Even if you're ganna assume each transformation is a 1.5 times multiplyer,you get Gorgoil Garou somewhere 5 to 7 times stronger than Orochii,and Garou got knocked outh by a consecutive normal punch combo,what doesn't even had killing intend behind it. Also you brought up at the other two just how good they are at learning skills from the opponent,and master they're technique better than the user. But what abouth Saitama??? The same guy who copied Garou's martial art style just to mock him... The same Garou who's entire thing is to master the opponents technique better than the opponent,and the best martial artist in the entire verse,get hes cheecks stat and SKILL STOMPED by Saitama who never was in a dojo in hes entire life
And many more arguments just this comment is already too long and I don't wan't it to be that long... But at the end,I don't say Saitama wins 100%,there is definiately ways to kill him,like Medaka's EE,but in this video I felt like you made Saitama dirty on porpouse especially how you talked abouth him in your video
This guy and medaka box argh
Hey, you forgot financially
I feel like this would end the same way as cosmic fear garou, where saitama grows stronger, faster then they can copy
his copy was trash Idk about Adam but Medaka has conceptual erasure which she copied from Kumagawa
You forgot Medaka’s main character status allowed her to even be above the likes of Ajimu, even if she lost all her powers she would beat Adam.
Adam doesn’t have the feats to copy all fiction either
Facts!
True.
Wasn't Ajimu still more powerful than her? And for what I remember, she did lose some fights, I'm not sure that she would defeat Adam without having her abilities
@@davidedavide2100 Ajimu stated that, because Medaka is the hero, the main character of a shonen manga, she wouldn't be able to win against Medaka. Not because she is weaker or anything(as Ajimu itself said that everything that Medaka has could be countered easily), but because Medaka's existence makes she be at the top in the end.
She's the "Hero", the "Main character". Sure, can lose, but that will either result in a better outcome later on, or will make her want to train, just for her to get a training boost.
Remember Shonen tropes. She may lose here and there, but she will be at the top in the end.
Infact, Ajimu herself has literal skills based on narrative aspects. Such as friendship, flashback, and so on.
And going by the fact that Medaka doesn't like to use Martial Arts, because those are made by humans to fight, and she doesn't see herself as human, makes a great narrative point.
The "Monster" who came from humans, fighting both the human who transcended his own limits, and the origin of all humans themselves. It could go either one of two ways: She either wins, to show her narrative representation of "Monster" over humans and that she must never stop helping people to make up for that. Or she loses in the first half, but her *literal and canonical* Plot Armor kicks in and she gains a Power boost.
@@viniciushenrique6672 - Ajimu also said that she would have killed Medaka and that winning isn't always a matter of fighting abilities, so I think that she didn't mean that Medaka would defeat her in a fight of powers, but this is a fight of powers, so I think that what Ajimu said doesn't matter in this case, no?
- Theoretically, even other characters can become better, if we consider even this thing certain debates would basically never end, no? So, I think that we should consider the characters like they are now, or am I wrong?
- Didn't she say that she doesn't like using martial arts only when she is in her War God Mode?
Bot under repair before: Record of Ragnarok, One Punch Man, Medaka Box; "Who wins?"
Bot under repair now: "Who wins?" Goku vs. Saitama
Yogiri Takatou bored of watching💀
If medaka copies 120 percent better and adam copies the 120 percent does medaka have an infite copy boost untill the ability is past 1200percent
Universal and mabye even inaccessible speed vs sitama who multi galaxy and finite speed at max not reson for sitama to be included
It's a thematic battle about perfect humans cross verses
It's not a power scaling video of "he has bigger feats, so of course he wins"
That's not the point of the video
It's a match up of "unstoppable forces" aka absurd powers colliding, just like any other video on the series
At max? Lol THE WHOLE POINT of Garou fight is that SAITAMA ALWAYS GROWS oh buddy you're Dumb
@@firdanharbima6997 I'm comparing interpretations of current feats
@@josephrogers3666 still bs
@@josephrogers3666current feats still shows Saitama infinitely scaling.
I only know Saitama and adam but doesn't the girl have the ability to erase them from existing.. how the hell you beat that😅
I understand your take of Saitama vs Adam, as even with the way I scale him, still loses to the Father of Mankind, but he is SEVERELY downplayed in this video you have.
Saitama could get to solar-system and MFTL at a lowball, but you've stuck him at Planet level and Light speed? that's just disrespectful.
He hasn’t shown any solar-system level feats as far as I’m aware. There was that panel with all the stars missing but we don’t actually know if his serious punch is what did that. There’s too much uncertainty around it and it makes more sense that the serious punch squared just destroyed and bent the light in that direction
The only MFTL feat he’s shown is landing on Jupiter’s moon in a couple seconds but that seems more related to the kickback of Serious Punch Squared and not a speed he can move at normally
@@BUR404 It was the energy of their fists colliding that blanked out the stars after Blast and his team redirected it away from Earth. And the FTL feats up to MFTL speeds stem with his constant growth-rate, permanent-solidification of upscaling every feat shown, and how he was fast enough to see the back of his head in a mirror while he still had hair; being flung to and jumping back from the moon; Genos dodging lasers; Garou fighting against and, even before his monsterization, was somewhat keeping up with Orochi, who was able to blitz and one-shot Roach-man with his tendrils, someone who was confident in being able to dodge even light-based attacks; Garou fighting against both Flashy Flash (who was weakened without his sword but is capable of casually fighting at light speed) and Platinum S, someone that blitzed most of the Class S heroes in his area and knocked Flashy Flash out of the equation before Garou went ahead to speed-blitz-one-shot Plat S right after. The constellation (for lack of a better term) caused by their sheer speed that rose from the ground all the way up to the atmosphere was calced to be around 90x FTL, and this was before Cosmic Fear Garou. On Jupiter's moon, after flipping up the surface and performing Omni-Directional serious punch began to knock Garou around all the floating rocks and formed another constellation that stretched across the entire moon, which was then scaled to be around 250x FTL. This isn't even taking into account the boost he's getting mid-battle, but going off how strong he is in the moment, as there's no telling how much stronger/faster he had truly gotten at that point.
@@BUR404His punch clash with Garou did that. Blast literally said he redirected the energy. How can you miss this?
He was also light speed when he had hair and now he's wayyyy more powerful than when he had hair
@@BUR404
Y'know the manga panel when narrator start explaining the time travel.
The manga panel with the statements -
“Reversal of causality”
“Absolutely unavoidable”
The illustration of that manga panel was actually the hole getting filling up with stars and other celestial bodies or *reversed* as time was moving backward.
Once again out of all these three there's going to be one that's going to be dead in a second and thats saitama he has potential to be stronger and may copy but thats it. Adam and medaka can copy both of their abilities without any hesitation so unfortunately this comes down to just the pure stat which is medaka
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ok i'm gonna gave a small explanation on why Adam's copying ability =/= Cosmic Garou's Copying Ability
Garou himself has stated that he cannot copy or master something that is OF a god like Time Manipulation and stuff (this doesn't mean he can't use it at all he literally used it on Saitama) on top of that unlike Adam Garou when Garou copies an ability it takes him a min to make a better of that technique while Adam instantly copies the technique before the oppoent can fully use and it's better then the orignal
unlike Adam Garou cannot copy DNA/Biological stuff
ok now that's clear i wanna make something else clear
idk about Madaka that much so i won't say anything
but Adam vs Saitama is just not even close comparing them is basically like comparing the earth's moon to the biggest Galaxy in the Universe
now fnally for the joke the fight won't happen bcz Adam will bring THE BELT
Or he takes off the lief
he called puri puri prisoner the gay guy 😂😂😂
Given everything, I'd say Adam would win with high difficulty purely because he could copy both of their abilities as soon as they showed them, and even though Saitama's my favorite here, he is unequivocally 3rd place 😢
Aren't some of Medaka's skills things which aren't exactly visible?
Yogiri takatou beat all of them without doing anything 💀
except Medaka her hax and Ajimu hax are pretty good they almost on the same level as Featherine, Void Shiki, Altair and other's
Yogiri just say die they die.
@@1wayroadAccel. 💀
@@godyoshida8433bro knows the drill 💀
@@1wayroadAccel.it's true but they lack of automatic defense system who act instant so it's yogiri doing nothing kills the source of intent and harm whenever universe are you💀🤭
Saitama was already faster than cosmic garou even when he was mftl and using hyperspace gate to escape saitama was already their at another end of portal before garou ,To make thing worse garou literally copied saitama stats and even improved them merged them with gravity knuckle punch ,Black holes , Radiation and then he hit saitama but saitama was unscratched even with so much amps added yo his own punches ,So adam copying saitama strength to hit him would be completely useless ,Plus the moment saitama starts growing its end for adam
Would surpassing normal time put Adam's reaction time, combat speed, and mental perception at casually inaccessible or even irreverent speeds? Because that seems like what he would be.
I don’t really know but Adam’s speed feat definitely makes him one of the fastest characters in fiction. Probably Top 10 behind Flash, Silver Surfer and Archie Sonic
@@BUR404
Don't you know what inaccessible and irrelevant speed is? They are the tiers of speed beneath Immeasurable speed.
@@thorshammer7883what the difference?
@@wangawangekilundu3489
They are the speed tiers which come after infinite.
This is how it is defined in the characters stats and profiles speed page.
Inaccessible (The ability to move distances, whether finite or infinite, in zero time without the aid of teleportation. This is usually achieved by moving in places outside of time or places where time doesn't flow.)
Irrelevant (Being so fast that the concept of speed is irrelevant. Speed qualitatively beyond the concept of distance, exceeding the entirety of the speed formula itself.
Can't he only copy God's powers? But Medaka and Saitama are Godlike but not really or actually. NVM, He said that he Adam can copy anything.
He copied the serpent’s technique and that guy isn’t a god
@@BUR404Yeah i saw it in your video. You said Godly techniques weren't the only ones and i thought the serpent was a god well... Oh he was a demon.
I don’t think these guys will even bother fighting saitama as they will consider him weak that can put him in in an advantage as he will be able to grow his power faster so saitama wins
Would they really consider him weak?
I don’t know
bruh medaka copied the most op characters I know 😭😭
Bro said puri puri prisoner is the gay guy...
ADAM
How does ppl still say all ficiton is the strongest if medaka copied it with the end and amplified it at 120% of its potential im lost
All Fiction isn't the most powerful skill, but it's still pretty powerful, no?
its not the most powerful, its just an altered form of the hundred gauntlets skill
Medaka cooks both their verses 💀Adam can't copy her conceptual abilities there's no proof he can do that and even if he could first move technically gives her immeasurable speed through hax as it literally just gives her the first move regardless of speed Saitama.....won't even mention him he's like Goku just not built to fight characters with crazy conceptual hax like this
Which of her hax's are conceptual? And tell me if she got the ,,first move " what does she usually start with? I bet she won't just start with a one shoot move like EE,and Saitama only needs to tuch her and she got vaporized
except all fiction could you please tell me her other conceptual abilities
@@shawn96mc23 Literally any ability Ajimu has used, she's managed to copy. And Ajimu has such a wide variety of conceputal abilities I'd be here all day listing them. Things like time manip, conceptual manip, literally becoming God or the Devil, nigh omnipresence & nigh omniscience, law manip, casuality manip, etc etc those are just a few of the literal 10s of thousands of skills Medaka has available
Adam wins. Both him and medaka will have on activation 120% copies of every skill including saitama limit breaking but adam isn't a human but a perfect copy of gods and male giving him advantages over saitama and medaka. saitama would be a limitless male, medaka would be a 120% limitless woman with every skill and adam would be a 120% limitless male demigod.
All of them would have incredible will power but adam have existed since the start of creation, defeated gods, have more experience and is the only one with a weapon which is a god killing magic knucle, also his copying skill is on activation and not on seeing the skill which makes him faster than medaka alsmot like the causality breaking punch of saitama.
But if medaka and adam can't break their limits like saitama but only copy his attacks like garou he wins.
Medaka would only win if only she can copy the limit breaking skill or if she copied adam's eye and used some instakill skill which adam would counter and seh would counter back... or something like that, like a magic counter spell stack. But to do this she would need to see adam use his skill first. And saitama would probably not die from instakills but because he is a gag character and medaka would have to fight with her the end skill at 120% limit breaking making her evolve faster but would be more like 100% growth + other skills.
If going by probability i would say adam have the best probability of victory, the medaka and finally saitama considering limit breaking can be copied.
Saitama easily takes this. His invincible one punch power is far too great for Medaka to handle and Adam’s copying abilities should technically only apply to gods.
Bro was purposely avoding anything that coule upscale Saitama
Saitama would burn Adam out and deathloop Medaka with his limitless strength stamina and hax resistance
Saitama is limitless unlike all these god beings. I have to give it to Melaka though they are op asf.
Medaka Kurokami v Madoka Kaname?
I bet SpongeBob can beat all of them
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Adam Class Beyond (edo)
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I got a question about the limitations of conceptual manipulation in other verses where powerscaling is definitely shown not to be outerversal or even multiversal despite whatever logic fallacies and paradigms people like to claim and assert them to be in verses like Fate Stay Night also known as the Nasuverse. Practices which have been unfortunately extremely oversaturated for years now leading to wank and blatant delusions which stem from taking things out of context instead of looking at it more rationally. Often they overscale entire verses hyoer inflating them for no good reason.
Here is the scenario and example. If a character from another verse where conceptual manipulation doesn't exist in it's power system were put into another reality with it like the Nasuverse and this character scales has something like outerspace manipulation and can scale to quasar tier or super massive blackhole attack potency, destructive capacity, durability, endurance, and recovery to survive them and move at a hundred million times Faster Then the Speed of Light in both reflects and mental perception speed and all his abilities are distinct from that reality's power system could they overwhelm that verse's conceptual abilities and tank them like whatever Gilgamesh, Scathach, Solomon, or Archetype Earth could throw at them? Since they haven't shown being at such a physical stage.
I doubt Fate's conceptual manipulation system would instantly harm him under those conditions and they should possess limitations especially if he isn't bound to their magic system then that verse's magic system powers of authority manipulation may not work on him in a haxing sense since it wouldn't not have any authority over him and would have to have the relative attack potency instead to remotely restrain him.
If you think about it alot of external fictional characters would be the equivalent of that to other verses. If you put Mori Jin from The God of Highschool into the Nasuverse he would be a anomaly to the whole created magic system of the Nasuverse not bound or restrained by the established parameters since he is distinguished from them.
So why did you make this if you know it was pointless
Imo, Terra 2 Saitama can probably beat them both
Canon Saitama enought,my man being downplayed too much
@@barnabastoma1075 True, but terra 4 garou though 💀