Actually if you pay attention Cloud is even more of an absolute beast than you even think. The scene with Midgardsomr underwater was implied that Sephiroth was an illusion meaning Cloud actually killed the snake himself while under control of Sephiroth using finishing touch.
Cloud being manipulated and corrupted by Sephiroth reminds me of Frodo and the Ring in LOTR. You see both characters become darker the longer they are under the influence of evil, through no fault of their own, which is why it’s so horrifying to watch when your heroes do bad things.
This is against Clouds will. He was never a Soldier or apart of it. He was forced to have Jenova cells implanted in him when he was experimented on. These poor Soldiers have their will's taken away and broken down to only husks. That is what is slowly happening to Cloud. Sephiroth is slowly breaking Cloud will down and taking over.
@@misterwacky3186 It really is. Even Hojo early in the game asked if Cloud could *Hear the calling* and when Cloud was not sure what he meant Hojo replied back saying *It is only a matter of time. No matter how strong you are the call always gets you*. Then the guy are the beginning who helps you was also infused with Mako and Jenova cells for the first time Soldiers and his will was already extremely weak to point he almost ups and walks out of the Hotel.
Man Cloud killing those guys like Sephiroth is both scary and awesome. If the Smash gang saw this, they would be shocked to see what he had went through and what it feels like being in his shoes.
Just thinking, since Cloud would technically be more dead and cold in Part 3, how about adding a Sephiroth mode or Limit Break for Cloud that pretty much makes you temporarily immune to damage and completely changes your play style during it's duration, just like Symbiote for Spider Man lol. It can have it's buffs and debuffs or changes to Cloud's relationship with other characters depending on how you use it
@@watchamigos1232I actually really like the implications of that. Cloud is already a stance change character so the idea of giving him like a Sephiroth and a Zack stance to be a sort of substitute for not being able to play Zack or Sephiroth freely in the main story would be awesome.
No one is going to point out : the stsnce the slsshes psttern , the impalement of someone.... It really does look like Sephiroth himself dispstched them ...
This reminded me, both Zack and Cloud were infused in dense mako by Hojo, Cloud got the poisoning but accidentally went trough a more sophisticated Soldier procedure. Zack on other hand already had a mako procedure so the experiment was ineffective and basically even if he is alive in anytime soon or later Zack also will become a black hoodie like Rouch and the inn owner. Cloud is not going to degradate and makes him perfect vessel for sephiroth.
Exactly my thoughts. Everyone the group shot, slashed, bludgeoned or impaled, somehow survived. only now those few soldiers supposedly died. In that regard the original did a better job. They pretty much made it clear everyone you fought was killed, they just did not make a big deal about it as it was a kill or be killed situation.
It legitimately bothers me how many people think Sephiroth is capable of possessing Cloud. The dude ain’t a ghost, he’s using the Jenova cells in Cloud, similar to how he does with the Sephiroth clones, but Cloud is special and Sephiroth can’t manifest through him.
Spoiler for thouse who haven't played the original FF7: In the Original FF7 Cloud was turned into a "Clone" of Sephiroth by Hojo before the events of FF7 started.
scarlet only starts running once she saw she pissed the wrong person lol.. once cloud starts killing those infantrys of hers like flies.. she starts running.. im sure she knows cloud is technically a clone of sepiroth in genetics and power.. so as someone who have been in shinra for soo long she would know how dangerous sephiroth would be and that tin can mech of her wont save her from him.. not to mention sephicloud is not weilding a thin ass masamune.. but a freaking big ass buster sword..
In Japanese, Sephiroth says, "Those you fear, those you love." Later, when Cloud repeats those words, he switches them around to "Those you LOVE, those you fear" when looking at Tifa. It's nuances like these that get lost in localisation.
@@spoonofsugar1431 Reminds me of that stupid Chopper shot from One Piece. Tho on a more serious note the game has its fair share of corny anime moments cause it is a japanese rpg after all
whispers attancking her while she can't fight back because she's trying to get the weapon, so she's left undefended to them. So she prefers to leave rather than be hurt for a weapon she can try to get somewhere else.
Whispers are obstructing her from getting the materia from weapon (as it wasn’t canon for her to obtain it) they’re keeping the flow of canon by getting in her way
You know how Aerith pants when she sees Cloud in a dress? Well, that's how I reacted when he started taking out baddies. When the scene was over, my husband looked over at me. "You thought that was hot, didn't you?"
Even if it wasn't Shinra, it's still military folk. When you sign up to take arms, you do also understand that your life can end on your next mission. Regardless of if you're a scumbag or a father of two, signing up for military means you understand your life can be cut short.
@@Sephiroth08150I think this is the fairest interpretation. They signed up for a job and accepted deployment to an operation where they are expected to fight for their life. The scene in the temple is more brutal since the soldier is implied to have not wanted to die as he wasn’t exactly on a mission he thought he’d die on beforehand. But regardless they are soldiers and thus fight or die.
Cloud pisses off Yuffie and the Gang Video here: ruclips.net/video/-SCFYilDBws/видео.html
I like the detail Cloud wielded his blade similar to how Sephiroth wielded Masamume during the possession.
I appreciated that too. Also the way he dodged bullets with that grin like Sephiroth would have as well.
He fight like Sephiroth when he is possessed.
The speed of the atacks and the cruelty in the finalizations (just like in nimbelheim).
4:14 Cloud summoning his inner Anakin
He killed them. He killed them all. They were like animals so he killed them like animals.
2:32 - 2:39 - That smirk, head tilt bullet dodge is So Hot.. You can't change my mind..lol
They should put a picture of sephiroth next to gaslighting in the dictionary
😂😂😂
Fr fr
Seriously. The man has made gaslighting into an art form.
one winged angel needs to play as soon as the word “manipulation” shows up
Gaslighting so immaculate I can smell the fumes through the screen.
Bro hit that Sephiroth stance
2:33 homie really tried rizzin mans up
What I love about Remake and Rebirth is Cloud is a fuckin' beast.
Agree they really demonstrate his strength well.
if you look closely its Sephiroths fighting style he is using here.
it is, but Sephiroth doesn't possess Cloud. He just using the Jenova cells to control him. Basically its not Sephy's power, but Cloud's@@hayatojin2886
Actually if you pay attention Cloud is even more of an absolute beast than you even think. The scene with Midgardsomr underwater was implied that Sephiroth was an illusion meaning Cloud actually killed the snake himself while under control of Sephiroth using finishing touch.
Cloud being manipulated and corrupted by Sephiroth reminds me of Frodo and the Ring in LOTR. You see both characters become darker the longer they are under the influence of evil, through no fault of their own, which is why it’s so horrifying to watch when your heroes do bad things.
Some of their actions are done against their will.
Good comparison.
This is against Clouds will. He was never a Soldier or apart of it. He was forced to have Jenova cells implanted in him when he was experimented on. These poor Soldiers have their will's taken away and broken down to only husks. That is what is slowly happening to Cloud. Sephiroth is slowly breaking Cloud will down and taking over.
@@vegeta2998that is just scary. What’s saintly compared to this horror? I can’t even make a comparison.
@@misterwacky3186 It really is. Even Hojo early in the game asked if Cloud could *Hear the calling* and when Cloud was not sure what he meant Hojo replied back saying *It is only a matter of time. No matter how strong you are the call always gets you*. Then the guy are the beginning who helps you was also infused with Mako and Jenova cells for the first time Soldiers and his will was already extremely weak to point he almost ups and walks out of the Hotel.
Been playing this as blind as I can get and seeing this scene I was speechless. This game has been amazing so far with how it handles it story
Man Cloud killing those guys like Sephiroth is both scary and awesome. If the Smash gang saw this, they would be shocked to see what he had went through and what it feels like being in his shoes.
Just thinking, since Cloud would technically be more dead and cold in Part 3, how about adding a Sephiroth mode or Limit Break for Cloud that pretty much makes you temporarily immune to damage and completely changes your play style during it's duration, just like Symbiote for Spider Man lol. It can have it's buffs and debuffs or changes to Cloud's relationship with other characters depending on how you use it
@@watchamigos1232I actually really like the implications of that. Cloud is already a stance change character so the idea of giving him like a Sephiroth and a Zack stance to be a sort of substitute for not being able to play Zack or Sephiroth freely in the main story would be awesome.
Evil cloud is scary
Like Sephiroth
I think you mean SEXY.
We need him in the world Zack is in.
Im at chapter 12 dont spoile anyting
Cloud Strife: What have I done?
Sephiroth: You are fulfilling your destiny...
Cloud Strife: You are a monster! YOU DESTROYED MY VILLAGE, MY FAMILY AND AERITH!@@tophat_darkness
Sephiroth: Through suffering you will grow strong... Isn't that what you want?
Cloud Strife: You made killed Zack Fair and you killed innocent people!@@tophat_darkness
@@tophat_darkness You're the devil! You killed Aerith Gainsborough and Zack Fair!
No one is going to point out : the stsnce the slsshes psttern , the impalement of someone....
It really does look like Sephiroth himself dispstched them ...
I think everyone has pointed that out...
More accurately he become possessed(or hypnotized).
Goddamn Cloud's a menace lol
This reminded me, both Zack and Cloud were infused in dense mako by Hojo, Cloud got the poisoning but accidentally went trough a more sophisticated Soldier procedure. Zack on other hand already had a mako procedure so the experiment was ineffective and basically even if he is alive in anytime soon or later Zack also will become a black hoodie like Rouch and the inn owner.
Cloud is not going to degradate and makes him perfect vessel for sephiroth.
Exactly 👍🏽
2:21 Am I the only one who sees Cloud’s pupils change to Sephiroth’s? I swear that’s what it looks like to me!
Plus holding the buster sword like the Masemune was an awesome detail
Never noticed that till just now 😲
No ones going to mention the casual bullet dodges??
Nope, we are all just swooning in silence LOL
(I admit I have rewatched the bullet dodges more times then I care to admit in public.)
It is not cloud . It is jenova . cloud has jenova inside of him .
Yeah looks like jenova started to manipulate cloud
that doctor knew what he doing to cloud in crisis core when he gave cloud so much mako in the first place. he prob proud as fuck right now lol
@@leardscottjr5399 that's hojo right?
@@kiramutoujaeger yeah that the menace of a doctor who started this lol
That sick hojo ' s fault for what is happend to cloud? 😡
2:25 Sephiroth's sword stance.
This was one of the highlights for me personally. So. Fucking. Sick.
Remember, all the people Cloud cut down up to this point inexplicably survived.
No, only the last two.
Exactly my thoughts.
Everyone the group shot, slashed, bludgeoned or impaled, somehow survived.
only now those few soldiers supposedly died.
In that regard the original did a better job.
They pretty much made it clear everyone you fought was killed, they just did not make a big deal about it as it was a kill or be killed situation.
No they died. The point of this scene is that he’s being weirdly brutal about it. Reveling in killing them.
@@cathyas3749he even copied sephrotih fighting stance
@@mikea2410 Precisely. Just mirrored it because of the dominant hand.
Him switching to Sephiroths stance is so cool.
Yeah, when I saw Tifa running after Scarlet I thought we were getting the b*tch slap fight between those two. How wrong I was…
It legitimately bothers me how many people think Sephiroth is capable of possessing Cloud. The dude ain’t a ghost, he’s using the Jenova cells in Cloud, similar to how he does with the Sephiroth clones, but Cloud is special and Sephiroth can’t manifest through him.
dude most of the new ff7 fans are born in the mid 2000s, they don't know lol
On top of that some ppl if not most didn't beat the game yet
If you played the game you would see it IS Sephiroth taking control of Cloud and it's not Jenova cells it's S cells/blood/tissue.
@@holographicwing S cells are derived from Jenova cells sweaty.
Sephiroth enforces his will over and commands Jenova’s actions so it is basically Sephiroth mind controlling him secondhand through Jenova.
After this when barret punches cloud, that was necessary and kind of satisfying
Those casual head move bullet dodges are hilarious.
Spoiler for thouse who haven't played the original FF7:
In the Original FF7 Cloud was turned into a "Clone" of Sephiroth by Hojo before the events of FF7 started.
Sephiroth doesn’t wanna see the scar lol
Playing the original back in the day.
Its ironic that Sephiroth tells Cloud not to be fooled by Tifa.
I think this is the first comment ever I see pointing this out. It's something I've been thinking about as well.
This is the first time I think they showed some blood in FF7
Nah they showed it when yuffie throw her weapon trying to kill rufus hitting hiedegar and when Sonon died in intergrade.
Not at all
Advent Children, Crisis Core:
scarlet only starts running once she saw she pissed the wrong person lol.. once cloud starts killing those infantrys of hers like flies.. she starts running.. im sure she knows cloud is technically a clone of sepiroth in genetics and power.. so as someone who have been in shinra for soo long she would know how dangerous sephiroth would be and that tin can mech of her wont save her from him.. not to mention sephicloud is not weilding a thin ass masamune.. but a freaking big ass buster sword..
The perfect Sephiroth clone.
In Japanese, Sephiroth says, "Those you fear, those you love." Later, when Cloud repeats those words, he switches them around to "Those you LOVE, those you fear" when looking at Tifa. It's nuances like these that get lost in localisation.
Anyone know the theme when cloud is slaughrering the officers? I know its a remix of arbiter of fate advent from remake but i cant findt it anywhere
I’ve been looking forever for this theme 😭
Anyone know the track name that starts playing at 2:25?
Puppet!Cloud content !!! 🗣️🗣️ (I have a problem with wanting to see my comfort characters get traumatized)
Same here, same. This is mostly why I love Cloud, because he is not your typical hero and he is weak in fact.
3:07 3:20 when I kill someone I don’t like irl.
Wait does Bismark is being hinted to come out in future FF7 remake series? 🤔
Someone recorded this in performance mode lmao
That anime ass pose he did when he screamed sometimes turns me off when I play lmao
What pose?
@@acceleratorjokerdarkness238 the one where he sat down, looked up and screamed tifa, SO ANIME ASFF
@@spoonofsugar1431 Reminds me of that stupid Chopper shot from One Piece. Tho on a more serious note the game has its fair share of corny anime moments cause it is a japanese rpg after all
No wayyy cloud turning into bad person😮😮😮
its just the jenova influence itll be worse in the 3rd game as he gets closer to sephiroths real body
@@ChadGPT67 oh
In the Original FF7 Cloud turned out to be a......, no im not going to spoiler that.
@lubbo5261 please?I really want to know it
I don’t get why Scarlet flees
whispers attancking her while she can't fight back because she's trying to get the weapon, so she's left undefended to them. So she prefers to leave rather than be hurt for a weapon she can try to get somewhere else.
Whispers are obstructing her from getting the materia from weapon (as it wasn’t canon for her to obtain it) they’re keeping the flow of canon by getting in her way
You know how Aerith pants when she sees Cloud in a dress? Well, that's how I reacted when he started taking out baddies. When the scene was over, my husband looked over at me.
"You thought that was hot, didn't you?"
Eh, they deserve it. Its still shinra
Even if it wasn't Shinra, it's still military folk.
When you sign up to take arms, you do also understand that your life can end on your next mission. Regardless of if you're a scumbag or a father of two, signing up for military means you understand your life can be cut short.
@@Sephiroth08150 "Cut short" 😭 literally here for all of the troopers
@@Sephiroth08150I think this is the fairest interpretation. They signed up for a job and accepted deployment to an operation where they are expected to fight for their life. The scene in the temple is more brutal since the soldier is implied to have not wanted to die as he wasn’t exactly on a mission he thought he’d die on beforehand. But regardless they are soldiers and thus fight or die.
Poor Tifa…
Bro thinks he's Sephiroth 💀
Well... if you played the Original FF7.
I mean if you did play OG, he really is Sephiroth
He’s the avatar of Sephiroth until Sephiroth is reborn through the black materia. He’s using cloud so he can be reborn.
2:33 WTF
Would have been cooler with the Buster Sword. 🧐
I love this Cloud
☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Girls swoon over evil cloud
Off topic. But i prefer Remake Cloud’s combat vs his new Rebirth combat ☝️ His swordsmanship looked better, now he’s just flying anime 🤣
😂😂😂
Clouds new combat is sick. Very fluid and versatile. 10 times better than remake.
I don't know I like rebirth better TBH. I also like the fact that after you dodge you get ranged shots. That should have been in remake.
Rebirth is way better, he has all his moves from remake and an entire new arsenal of attacks. I don't know what game you're playing.
@@kieragardI think in terms of punisher mode, they’re talking about that they prefer in remake