Well it’s pretty obvious that she had a crush on cloud when they were kids. On the gold saucer date she basically admits it when she was discussing her feelings about being close to him. When trying to take the next step she then says or “am I getting ahead of myself again” that pretty much confirms that there was a time where she felt something for him and she believed he felt the same.
She didn't back then, the game is pretty clear Cloud had a crush on her as a kid and she never noticed him. Then, ironically, as adults it's kind of reversed.
@@carlotta4th how do you guys come to that conclusion? What do you mean she never noticed him? Have you finished the game? In part 1 we see her calling out to cloud and we see him ignoring her not the other way around. In rebirth we have dialogue that further backs up that cloud was the one ignoring her because he didn’t care for Emilio and the others. When they return to nibelheim tifa and cloud talk about their childhood and how she would always invite him out to play but he always turned her down or ignored her. This led her to believe that he actually dislike her which made their friendship a lot more rocky and made tifa believe that cloud preferred to be a loner instead. It wasn’t until the water tower scene where they could finally speak alone with one another without the others getting between them. This showed tifa that cloud didn’t actually hate her at all. In her novel it describes tifa as being really nervous about the water tower date and how she had to ask her mom what to do so she would stop panicking. Her mom told her to focus on clouds beauty because it makes him look less scary. Those feelings have always been there since they were kids but once cloud left, tifa’s feeling for him skyrocketed and grew to love. She didn’t know what she had until it was gone.
This scene is so important as it reminds Tifa of why she must support Cloud despite his flaws. Sephiroth knows that it's her commitment to Cloud and to restoring Clouds mind that will cause his defeat, as she is the only thing Cloud has left and is the only link he has to his past/ childhood. It's the only thing stopping Cloud from becoming completely brainwashed.
Not only that, but Cloud becomes like a vegetable here thinking that Tifa is gone. Dude is totally unresponsive and useless until Barret gives him a slap on the face and saying that Tifa needs him now.
this game solidified cloud and tifa as canon couple who loved each other, got separated by the niebelhiem incident and then went back to each other step by step working through the trauma they share, which is why their true end is together when cloud is finally healed, and they needed to establish that early so that people don't be weirded out when cloud is discovered to be head over heels for her in the lifestream and later on so they needed everyone to see that through everything, but what still feels not fully understood for me is aerith's feelings, i'm not sure when she has the dream sequence with cloud and when she discovers he see her as a friend or not in a romantic way, is she really saying her different liking for him is only her covering the fact she loves him but knows it is unrequited or is it because she herself is conflicted about her own feelings i'm not sure at all tbh aerith is confusing me, even if cloud and aerith as a mutual ship is dead, they did zack fucking dirty looking for the woman who possibly moved on from him to a guy who only loves another woman romantically and mutually lol
I think the scene he has with Marlene is about the way the timeline went out originally: now, in a world where she's occasionally feeling Zack through the other timeline, I don't think she ever fully "moved on" this time.
@@Matagu1nah whatever connectio Clouds has with Aerith is because of the jenova the cells and transferring of zacks memories basically. Zack did tell him to live for both of them in the end of CC.
This is actually showing parts of Cloud's psyche/ memory and not her own, hence being shown from Cloud's perspective. The lifestream is trying to solidify Cloud and Tifa's bond.
This non optional scene clearly shows that Sephiroth is threatened by Tifa. He knows she is the only one who can save Cloud and break his hold over him. But the Cleriths gonna Clerith and spout off their deIusion that Cloud isn't in love with Tifa, when she's always been the one.
They always forget the only reason he "loves arieth" is cause of him pretty much taking over zacks personality and that clouds og crush was tifa and were pretty much together at the end of og ff7 and advent children
The delusion and coping has been at an all-time high. I've never seen the Cleriths in such shambles, it's hilarious to see actually. Imagine if Aerith had gotten a kissing scene with Cloud how they would've acted. Or if it had been Tifa trying to drag Cloud into trying to recreate good times with a previous lover, or throwing herself onto Cloud for hugs, or if Tifa said "I like you" only to get just a "you've been weird all day."
@@back2back379 They're seething and completely rabid 🤣 Even if you removed all the optional scenes the story is still romantically geared towards Tifa and they can't stand it. There's a copium shortage because they've been stocking up and OD'ing 😂 I even saw one say "All of you Cloti fans are toxic and ruining this for us" 🤣
@@TheAC86 I’ve even seen them cope by saying “Aerith and Cloud’s relationship is not about kissing, it’s deeper than that!” 😂 They can’t stand the fact that if the intention from the start had been Cleriths, then Cloud and Aerith would’ve gotten a kiss scene, but they didn’t. They can’t stand that they don’t get that affirmation back from Cloud no matter how hard Aerith tries, he only goes as far as being just considerate enough to comfort her when she’s throwing herself onto him begging to be comforted, and her apologizing for it since she knows she threw herself onto him like that.
This scene is similar to the Midgar Zolom fight earlier on where they got pulled underwater by a giant monster, almost drowned and were even visited by Sephiroth personally
Its best to look at it as Aerith seed Zack in Cloud. And Cloud prefers Tifa. The only way this scene and alot of what the comments say makes any sense.
They showed 80% of the OG Tifa/Lifestrean scene and no one is questioning what will happen next ? Every factual elements that Tifa used in the OG scene are already addressed here to the audience and to Cloud. By the way Has anyone noticed that Cloud remembers his childhood memories by himself ?
Hyee, is there a Tifa memory happened in the original ff7 part? I forgot about it, but this time seeing Cloud trying to attack Tifa really made me nervous!
One part that's confusing though.... Why did Sephiroth save her from the giant monster that ate her? He could have easily let the monster be it would have had no reason to go back up to the surface, but instead he attacks it not once but twice. One dangerously close to where Tifa was, and two slicing the creature's entire back, causing it to swim back up to the surface where everyone else was.
Probably because of the white cloaked whispers. They work for Aerith, and are probably keeping Tifa safe. Hence why Sephiroth didn't even bother. Plus his demeanor. He's a cocky villain who has a god complex and will toy with his opponents
I'm wondering if like Aerith there are multiple Sephiroth's that can move between the lifestream timelines? This could be one who didn't go crazy at Nibelheim. When I first watched this I was like "why did he save her?" And it was out of character for him to struggle with the hide of the Weapon, if you ask me. That did NOT seem like any cool and collected Sephiroth we know trying to kill Tifa... But just a conjecture at this point.
The scene is such nonsense, everyone in the world is talking about Mako poisoning and how dangerous it is. Jessie's father is comatose (and maybe dead) because of Mako, without being in direct contact. In the original, Cloud ends up in a wheelchair after he falls in and in the remake everyone talks about how dangerous it is and Tifa takes a bath in it and nothing happens ?!. The game is fun...but it's definitely the prettier stupid sister/brother of the original when it comes to the story. and there are so many logic errors in this game...
Jessie's father is comatose not dead. yes mako is poisonous, but prolonged exposure is what gets you. Jessie's father was comatose because he collapse due to overworking himself and left alone near mako for half a day. Cloud is an anomaly, he barely survived Hojo's experiments and after falling in.
@@HLGToys but in the original game it's even talked about. cloud says that converted mako lights up beautifully, but if you fall in it's over. and there is a lot of talk about mako poisoning, including in the new game. So it's a logical error and not the only one
Comparing Cloud and Jessie’s dad to this is disingenuous. Cloud was trapped in a Mako vat with Zack under Nibleheim for 5 years. Jessie’s dad work with Mako for a living. Tifa’s inside the weapon for like an hour. Your “critique” sucks ass. Try again.
Not really physical contact with mako reproduces the experiences, sensations, and memories relevant to the souls that inhabit it . that's why Tifa saw the past . 😂So if she contact too long she will be crazy and always ask " Who am i and where is this " like Cloud .
@@tuongnguyenmanh4743 but in remake and the og Cloud explained even if mako looks beautiful if you fall into it it's over. What you say is happening if you fall in the pure lifestream
Tifa getting her character fleshed out is “weird shit”. This is when we distinguish having Nostalgia boners up your ass does not mean you’re a true fan.
if you want copy and paste just play the og with mods. They're expanding and doing what they couldn't do back then cause of the technology and resources
You're an idiot. Tifa wants Cloud to save her because she's in love with him but is too shy to admit to it. That promise was so that Cloud would come back to her.
Hey what if sepheroth have some kind of feelings for Tifa I mean he saved her twice. Why hey I aint complaining if he does. I ship Tifa with alot of guys hopefully she end up with Cloud if Not maybe Zack or seph if he isn't evil anymore.
When she was a literal child, yes. And what, was Cloud shallow for liking her because she was pretty even though they never spoke? Kids be kids bro. But they're not kids any more.
The entire group knows that Cloud is suffering from SOLDIER's effects as well as Sephirot's manipulation, but they still support him, they even know that he has nothing and no one left as his memories are messed by the experiments, In this scene, Tifa is taken to lifestream by weapon and remembers little of her past with him, the group already had a dangerous experience in midgard so this events doesn't seem very strange to them, on the other hand the punch that Barret hit him in the face was not out of anger, rather it was to wake him up, we have already seen how the two become very close as the story goes.
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I love how nearly all of her memories had cloud in them. You can’t say she doesn’t love him.
For real 😭😭 she kept calling out to cloud too
Well it’s pretty obvious that she had a crush on cloud when they were kids. On the gold saucer date she basically admits it when she was discussing her feelings about being close to him. When trying to take the next step she then says or “am I getting ahead of myself again” that pretty much confirms that there was a time where she felt something for him and she believed he felt the same.
She didn't back then, the game is pretty clear Cloud had a crush on her as a kid and she never noticed him. Then, ironically, as adults it's kind of reversed.
@@carlotta4th totp confirms she actually did but was oblivious about it until the promise.
@@carlotta4th how do you guys come to that conclusion? What do you mean she never noticed him? Have you finished the game? In part 1 we see her calling out to cloud and we see him ignoring her not the other way around. In rebirth we have dialogue that further backs up that cloud was the one ignoring her because he didn’t care for Emilio and the others. When they return to nibelheim tifa and cloud talk about their childhood and how she would always invite him out to play but he always turned her down or ignored her. This led her to believe that he actually dislike her which made their friendship a lot more rocky and made tifa believe that cloud preferred to be a loner instead. It wasn’t until the water tower scene where they could finally speak alone with one another without the others getting between them. This showed tifa that cloud didn’t actually hate her at all. In her novel it describes tifa as being really nervous about the water tower date and how she had to ask her mom what to do so she would stop panicking. Her mom told her to focus on clouds beauty because it makes him look less scary. Those feelings have always been there since they were kids but once cloud left, tifa’s feeling for him skyrocketed and grew to love. She didn’t know what she had until it was gone.
This scene is so important as it reminds Tifa of why she must support Cloud despite his flaws.
Sephiroth knows that it's her commitment to Cloud and to restoring Clouds mind that will cause his defeat, as she is the only thing Cloud has left and is the only link he has to his past/ childhood. It's the only thing stopping Cloud from becoming completely brainwashed.
You are right
Exactly. And without her, Cloud will be the puppet of Sephiroth, forever.
Yes and don't forget jenova .
Not only that, but Cloud becomes like a vegetable here thinking that Tifa is gone. Dude is totally unresponsive and useless until Barret gives him a slap on the face and saying that Tifa needs him now.
Barret save the day
The music for this particular sequence is so beautiful. I really hope it'll be included in the official soundtrack release.
Tifa i love you ❤
So does the Italians
this game solidified cloud and tifa as canon couple who loved each other, got separated by the niebelhiem incident and then went back to each other step by step working through the trauma they share, which is why their true end is together when cloud is finally healed, and they needed to establish that early so that people don't be weirded out when cloud is discovered to be head over heels for her in the lifestream and later on so they needed everyone to see that through everything, but what still feels not fully understood for me is aerith's feelings, i'm not sure when she has the dream sequence with cloud and when she discovers he see her as a friend or not in a romantic way, is she really saying her different liking for him is only her covering the fact she loves him but knows it is unrequited or is it because she herself is conflicted about her own feelings
i'm not sure at all tbh aerith is confusing me, even if cloud and aerith as a mutual ship is dead, they did zack fucking dirty looking for the woman who possibly moved on from him to a guy who only loves another woman romantically and mutually lol
I think the scene he has with Marlene is about the way the timeline went out originally: now, in a world where she's occasionally feeling Zack through the other timeline, I don't think she ever fully "moved on" this time.
@@magickoopa24 Yeah and same goes with Cloud, nrver really "moved on" from Aerith.
Exactly! They did my boi Zack dirty, you can tell he's sad when he bites(?) His lips when Marlenes tells him that.
@@Matagu1nah whatever connectio Clouds has with Aerith is because of the jenova the cells and transferring of zacks memories basically. Zack did tell him to live for both of them in the end of CC.
They literally are a couple in Advent Children and the Highwind scene was said to be canon by the creator. They were always canon.
is this like her own Lifestream sequence?
this is actually really cool, i couldn't stop thinking about the LS scene
Yes and it is showing the memory of her past, she would play a key role in order to heal Cloud from his mako poisoning
This is actually showing parts of Cloud's psyche/ memory and not her own, hence being shown from Cloud's perspective. The lifestream is trying to solidify Cloud and Tifa's bond.
If we take this as some sort of "introduction", then the Lifestream sequence in Part 3 is gonna be a fucking masterpiece.
This non optional scene clearly shows that Sephiroth is threatened by Tifa. He knows she is the only one who can save Cloud and break his hold over him.
But the Cleriths gonna Clerith and spout off their deIusion that Cloud isn't in love with Tifa, when she's always been the one.
They always forget the only reason he "loves arieth" is cause of him pretty much taking over zacks personality and that clouds og crush was tifa and were pretty much together at the end of og ff7 and advent children
The delusion and coping has been at an all-time high. I've never seen the Cleriths in such shambles, it's hilarious to see actually. Imagine if Aerith had gotten a kissing scene with Cloud how they would've acted. Or if it had been Tifa trying to drag Cloud into trying to recreate good times with a previous lover, or throwing herself onto Cloud for hugs, or if Tifa said "I like you" only to get just a "you've been weird all day."
@@catgod4484 careful, you're gonna summon them to this comment section like whispers with all the truths you're telling. 😂
@@back2back379 They're seething and completely rabid 🤣
Even if you removed all the optional scenes the story is still romantically geared towards Tifa and they can't stand it.
There's a copium shortage because they've been stocking up and OD'ing 😂
I even saw one say "All of you Cloti fans are toxic and ruining this for us" 🤣
@@TheAC86 I’ve even seen them cope by saying “Aerith and Cloud’s relationship is not about kissing, it’s deeper than that!” 😂 They can’t stand the fact that if the intention from the start had been Cleriths, then Cloud and Aerith would’ve gotten a kiss scene, but they didn’t. They can’t stand that they don’t get that affirmation back from Cloud no matter how hard Aerith tries, he only goes as far as being just considerate enough to comfort her when she’s throwing herself onto him begging to be comforted, and her apologizing for it since she knows she threw herself onto him like that.
This scene is similar to the Midgar Zolom fight earlier on where they got pulled underwater by a giant monster, almost drowned and were even visited by Sephiroth personally
Literally life flashes before her eyes
A biblical trope in a Final Fantasy game. Never thought I’d see it.
She is always there for him.
Its best to look at it as Aerith seed Zack in Cloud.
And Cloud prefers Tifa. The only way this scene and alot of what the comments say makes any sense.
This is so cool. 😍
Pretty sure Mako poisoning doesn’t set in after only a few hours exposure. Cloud and Jesse’s dad was exposed for longer periods of time.
My heart was racing... OMG
lol. aw ur too soft...😟
Wow, amazing scene. Goes to show just how much Sephiroth despises Tifa...
10:34 foreshadowing for the Northern Crater?
We'll Return To This Spot Later In PART 3
They showed 80% of the OG Tifa/Lifestrean scene and no one is questioning what will happen next ?
Every factual elements that Tifa used in the OG scene are already addressed here to the audience and to Cloud.
By the way Has anyone noticed that Cloud remembers his childhood memories by himself ?
Hyee, is there a Tifa memory happened in the original ff7 part? I forgot about it, but this time seeing Cloud trying to attack Tifa really made me nervous!
There are some at other points of the game but it didn't happen in this manner.
I wish I knew what track was playing when the whale released Tifa.
So that scar she has it was Cloud or Sephiroth's fault? Because Sephiroth's Masamune scene is really similar to this one, i'm confused
She got that scar from Sephiroth in Crisis Core.
Ela foi lutar com o Sephirot e deu errado.
@@honkaigenshingirl9576in crisis core? LMAO that happened in the og FF7 and again on crisis core, saying the scene is from crisis core is incorrect
Why Tifa fall look like Sora from kh 1 ?
Because when you walk away
You don't hear me say'' please, oh baby, don't go.'' Simple and clean is the way that your're making me feel tonight. It's hard to let it go .
because she doesn't know if it's real or not
Tifa ❤️💞🤪🧻🧻🧻
One part that's confusing though.... Why did Sephiroth save her from the giant monster that ate her?
He could have easily let the monster be it would have had no reason to go back up to the surface, but instead he attacks it not once but twice. One dangerously close to where Tifa was, and two slicing the creature's entire back, causing it to swim back up to the surface where everyone else was.
Probably because of the white cloaked whispers. They work for Aerith, and are probably keeping Tifa safe. Hence why Sephiroth didn't even bother.
Plus his demeanor. He's a cocky villain who has a god complex and will toy with his opponents
i'm pretty sure it was saving her and sephiroth was trying to kill her
I'm wondering if like Aerith there are multiple Sephiroth's that can move between the lifestream timelines? This could be one who didn't go crazy at Nibelheim. When I first watched this I was like "why did he save her?" And it was out of character for him to struggle with the hide of the Weapon, if you ask me. That did NOT seem like any cool and collected Sephiroth we know trying to kill Tifa... But just a conjecture at this point.
@@kayin5696 exactly. That part where he grunted seemed really out of character
@KimiruLVR glad I'm not the only one who thought so lol
Are they really gonna make us fight these things in the 3rd game? I hope not 😢
Soo! How does his blade not slice her at that closeness, Square had one job and fkd that up aswell
The scene is such nonsense, everyone in the world is talking about Mako poisoning and how dangerous it is. Jessie's father is comatose (and maybe dead) because of Mako, without being in direct contact. In the original, Cloud ends up in a wheelchair after he falls in and in the remake everyone talks about how dangerous it is and Tifa takes a bath in it and nothing happens ?!. The game is fun...but it's definitely the prettier stupid sister/brother of the original when it comes to the story. and there are so many logic errors in this game...
Jessie's father is comatose not dead. yes mako is poisonous, but prolonged exposure is what gets you. Jessie's father was comatose because he collapse due to overworking himself and left alone near mako for half a day. Cloud is an anomaly, he barely survived Hojo's experiments and after falling in.
@@HLGToys but in the original game it's even talked about. cloud says that converted mako lights up beautifully, but if you fall in it's over. and there is a lot of talk about mako poisoning, including in the new game. So it's a logical error and not the only one
Comparing Cloud and Jessie’s dad to this is disingenuous. Cloud was trapped in a Mako vat with Zack under Nibleheim for 5 years. Jessie’s dad work with Mako for a living. Tifa’s inside the weapon for like an hour. Your “critique” sucks ass. Try again.
Not really physical contact with mako reproduces the experiences, sensations, and memories relevant to the souls that inhabit it . that's why Tifa saw the past . 😂So if she contact too long she will be crazy and always ask " Who am i and where is this " like Cloud .
@@tuongnguyenmanh4743 but in remake and the og Cloud explained even if mako looks beautiful if you fall into it it's over. What you say is happening if you fall in the pure lifestream
蒂法 穿搭好美 身材又好 美女 我很喜歡妳 我很想要跟妳在一起 😍😍🥰🥰
Rebirth is kind of boring. I lose interest quite often and go back to playing Baldur's Gate 3.
Thanks for sharing it changed my life.
Thanks for sharing it changed my life
So like you claimed rebirth is boring and you rather play Baldurs gate 3 , which is as fun watching paint dry... doesn't help your argument LMAO
@@dannysandoval8296 Man we could have had a chain going
@@dannysandoval8296
Yeah you messed up, we could of had a chain going.
Thanks for sharing it changed my life.
Dammit Square Enix. We wanted a straightforward remake. Not all of this weird shit.
Tifa getting her character fleshed out is “weird shit”.
This is when we distinguish having Nostalgia boners up your ass does not mean you’re a true fan.
if you want copy and paste just play the og with mods. They're expanding and doing what they couldn't do back then cause of the technology and resources
Speak for yourself. I enjoyed this
lol if zelda fanboys didnt get their scene for scene lttp remake...
yall aint getting yours.
hope someday tho both will happen.
There’s a link to the past remake?
Shallow Tifa wants being saved by a famous Soldier Hero and have all the attention, saying how cool she is being ssved by a fsmous hero.
Tifa does not care about soldier, TIFA LOVES CLOUD, and SHE WANTS CLOUD to SAVE HER.
You're an idiot. Tifa wants Cloud to save her because she's in love with him but is too shy to admit to it. That promise was so that Cloud would come back to her.
Me when I have no brain cells
Hey what if sepheroth have some kind of feelings for Tifa I mean he saved her twice. Why hey I aint complaining if he does. I ship Tifa with alot of guys hopefully she end up with Cloud if Not maybe Zack or seph if he isn't evil anymore.
When she was a literal child, yes. And what, was Cloud shallow for liking her because she was pretty even though they never spoke? Kids be kids bro.
But they're not kids any more.
The entire group knows that Cloud is suffering from SOLDIER's effects as well as Sephirot's manipulation, but they still support him, they even know that he has nothing and no one left as his memories are messed by the experiments, In this scene, Tifa is taken to lifestream by weapon and remembers little of her past with him, the group already had a dangerous experience in midgard so this events doesn't seem very strange to them, on the other hand the punch that Barret hit him in the face was not out of anger, rather it was to wake him up, we have already seen how the two become very close as the story goes.