There is a missing last link in the evolution of cavalry spear, which is hungarian/polish lance, which was hollowed out and used lighter grip, while the force of impact was directed into the saddle. This allowed the lance to be longer, while still allowing to transfer the full force of the charge into the enemy.
@@Specter_1125 I wouldnt necessarily call German steel lances the evolution of lance. More like a dead end. They were an attempt to gain range in hope it would balance out worsening overall lance skills of cavalrymen - and a cost - cutting measure to boot. The point is completely unsuitable for cuts, which severely limits your already limited (due to lenght) fencing options AND lethality. They were crude weapons for poorly skilled cavalry.
Hi, you see cavalry using overhand grip already in neo assyrian reliefs. Some of them might depict javelin throwing but in other scenes you can see them directly stabbing at an enemy
Might be worth noting that at least from the depictions that I know is that usually depictions of open field battles show the end result, the chasing of the enemy after their defeat in battle. So it might be possible that they fought differently in the actual battle but I personally believe that if you have a spear that is perfectly capable of stabing and the opportunity calls for it then you would stab. I'm not an expert tho. Anyway I like your videos✌️
Thank you! There's so much detail one can go into, and regional variations. I'll keep on making videos on the finer points, but thought an overview "broad strokes" one would be good.
What happens to the later period heavy lance(with the lance rest)when it actually hit the opponent? Does it break? Or do you retrieve it? Or you run akwardly with a person skewered on your lance???
I like the video but I heavily doubt a lance strike can pierce plate armor. mail? sure, but for plate? it's not like you'd pierce it so much as you'd make the guy flop from the whiplash. Reason guns became so craved on was because they were the only wepon that could reliably pierce plate, granted, crossbows and pikes could mayybe pierce weaker plates but that's like a few centimetres, which is why I said *reliably*
@@ZacharyEvans oh hey, thanks for answering, sure, I'd like to see that, also I mean to say pickaxes, not pikes, so that'd include warhammers wit piercing bits and the like.
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There is a missing last link in the evolution of cavalry spear, which is hungarian/polish lance, which was hollowed out and used lighter grip, while the force of impact was directed into the saddle. This allowed the lance to be longer, while still allowing to transfer the full force of the charge into the enemy.
That’s not the last link. There were fully metal lances used in WW1 by certain nations cavalry.
@@Specter_1125 I wouldnt necessarily call German steel lances the evolution of lance. More like a dead end. They were an attempt to gain range in hope it would balance out worsening overall lance skills of cavalrymen - and a cost - cutting measure to boot. The point is completely unsuitable for cuts, which severely limits your already limited (due to lenght) fencing options AND lethality. They were crude weapons for poorly skilled cavalry.
Hi, you see cavalry using overhand grip already in neo assyrian reliefs. Some of them might depict javelin throwing but in other scenes you can see them directly stabbing at an enemy
Might be worth noting that at least from the depictions that I know is that usually depictions of open field battles show the end result, the chasing of the enemy after their defeat in battle.
So it might be possible that they fought differently in the actual battle but I personally believe that if you have a spear that is perfectly capable of stabing and the opportunity calls for it then you would stab. I'm not an expert tho.
Anyway I like your videos✌️
Thank you! There's so much detail one can go into, and regional variations. I'll keep on making videos on the finer points, but thought an overview "broad strokes" one would be good.
And spear used as javelin by many users throughout history
Must mention Alexander’s double ended spears
What happens to the later period heavy lance(with the lance rest)when it actually hit the opponent? Does it break? Or do you retrieve it? Or you run akwardly with a person skewered on your lance???
Pointy end forward
This is an excellent video
I like the video but I heavily doubt a lance strike can pierce plate armor. mail? sure, but for plate? it's not like you'd pierce it so much as you'd make the guy flop from the whiplash. Reason guns became so craved on was because they were the only wepon that could reliably pierce plate, granted, crossbows and pikes could mayybe pierce weaker plates but that's like a few centimetres, which is why I said *reliably*
Lance strike absolutely can pierce plate armor. We've got primary and secondary sources on this. Also, good luck piercing plate armor with a pike lol
This definitely could have another short video to address it
@@ZacharyEvans oh hey, thanks for answering, sure, I'd like to see that, also I mean to say pickaxes, not pikes, so that'd include warhammers wit piercing bits and the like.