My first ever armour - tegulated plate?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2017
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This is the first time I have even mentioned this armour on RUclips. It has been sitting in a store room in an old post bag all these years, waiting for the day when I could be brazen enough to make a video about something so inauthentic.
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**Mom throws away your cardboard helmet and sends you to a boarding school.**
**boarding school has metal workshop**
**makes metal armor and becomes medieval equipment historian**
Happy now mom?
Mom: "It's dull for you to like blue. Every boy likes blue"
Lloyd: "Beige!"
"Take that, mum!"
LOL
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I think boarding school is actually considered a good thing in alot of places. (By the student, I mean haha)
"My arms, when I was 17, must have been a fair bit thinner, because these are really, really tight on me, and I'm not wearing anything underneath this."
LINDYBUFF
@@idiosyncraticname *clears throat* L I N D Y T H I C C
No, he just wasn't done growing at 17.
@@TheDennys21 why u ruin it mate
What's truly impressive is that he can still fit into armor that he made at age 17...
Master Neloth I was thinking the same. Perhaps it's because I'm an American but I can't fit into oversized sweatshirts I wore then, let alone armor.
I feel like I have seen your comment in a Total War Empire video recently. Is that correct?
I have to say that impressed me as well; I had to back up and start again from that point- started having horrible thoughts of trying to fit into the stuff I wore at 17....The horror!
Master Neloth I'm thinner now than I was at 12...
No, I bet there's a lot of people with Master Neloth accounts. Best character in the Elder Scrolls, no contest.
The cardboard age is one of the lesser known epochs of British history. Was it accurate to the period?
Having looked at the film, I can say that it is quite accurate. It is surprising to see such accuracy today
@@eazy8579 The only inaccuracy I can see is the lack of trash can lid shields...
Absolutely!
@@BuddhaBen93 trash can lid? Bin lid is a bit more accurate
I once used a lid to a cardboard box with a belt wrapped around it as a shield for lightsaber fighting with a friend of mine lol. Cardboard with a belt wrapped around it does not make a good shield.
the seductive wiggle of a ww1 tank crewman
Dean Fisher it struck fear into all the Germans unfortunate enough to witness it.
But attracted all Brits to his position.
I don't get it
School: Y'all can wear whatever on sunday.
Lindy: *Armour*
Except that not everyone lives in America and talks like that.
Well the "y'all" isn't _often_ used (people seem to prefer 'yous'), but the u _is_ included.
I live in America and don't say that nor know anyone who says that,@@iiiiii8522
@@Wedneswere Go south, we use Y'all a lot because its easier than saying 'you all'.
Also the only school on sunday is god hut school
On Sunday? Why wouldn't you be wearing what you want on Sunday?
"So I looked down on the ground and thought 'Good lord, a ring !'". Which is how Lindybeige became the Lord of the Rings.
"My precious"
"No, we're British; gorget."
It wouldn't be a Lindy vid without a subtle crack at the French. Only about 6 minutes in and I'm already satisfied. Well done.
I think hearing a Brit say "Just because you see someone reasonably well protected, doesn't give you an excuse to wallop him" while wearing armor seems hilariously English.
What minute?
@@gustavoscottifraga4541
Watch the whole video and you'll see it.
@@gustavoscottifraga4541 22:55
Like a Monty Python skit
He's like Sonic the Hedgehog. Just losing rings every time he gets hit lol.
This needs more likes, hahaha
Gary Gygax would call that "lindy-mail"!
Thats sooo true! AC 6 with a -1 modifier to encumbrance...
There is actually a hell of a lot of Indo-Persain mail that looks a lot like this. Ranging from 15th century Iran to 19th century India. The Ottomans used this phenotype (for lack of a better word). We've even seen some examples of mail similar to this in the Philippines.
Yours really is very similar to a lot of those. Side-by-side (as apposed to over lapping) many small plates, with holes along the edges, incorporated into a shirt of mail. There wasn't a whole lot of standardization there either. Or rather we see a vast amount of variation across different places and times. A lot of it does look like amateur modified mail where someone just put small plates wherever they thought they needed more protection. Even to the extent of a lot of it having on the fly cheat repairs.
The near-east, and south-east had been doing basically what you'd done with this for 100's of years. Your shirt wouldn't have been out of place from the 15th century - the 18th century, east and south-east of the Mediterranean. Of course it probably would have been considered a poor mans make shift armour then as well.
There is really only two major differences between yours and a lot of those found from those times and places 1) A lot of the plates were dished to some degree. 2) A lot of pieces have engraving on the plates (entire scripts, or one-off repetitive phrases). But yours still falls mostly in-line with a good chunk of the plainer low budget examples we see.
one other difference (important to anyone trying to replicate similar pieces): there need to be at least 3 rings between each plate (one connecting to each plate and one connecting the two) to provide a small bit of buffer space, the lack of which is the reason he had to use such large rings and why they continued to bend and fall off.
Far east, too. It's very similar to Japanese "karuta" armor.
He even made a video about Mughal armor
Not “plate mail,” _plated_ mail.
@@samiamrg7 Who are you talking to?
I can listen the ramblings of this man for hours.
True story my friend!
Yea, it just reminds me that we still live in a world big enough for idiosyncrasies and eccentricity. The guy is cool in his quirkiness.#tips confederate battle cap# I Salute you Sir!
Lindy made an entire suit of armour in his teens... I've failed at life
Kris Brants why couldnt you do it right now? Stop failing and start learning!
I am 15 and a blacksmith. So yeah. But that's fine
Kris Brants he had access to a full metalworking shop through his boarding school. the rest of us that had to settle in subpar state schools never got that fortune. My physics lab at school when I was 17 only had a bunch of boxes of what might have looked like Meccano.
in Belgium, we don't have physics labs or anything that isn't specific to the profession they make you pick at 12 in our curriculae...
Kris Brants lucky you. in Italy, we basically don't get any options, education-wise, until we basicay go to university.
"I lost loads of rings when fighting"
This guy is like sonic man
"Don't use galvanised wire" he says, as I continue weaving maille with a box full of galvanised wire rings
Kero Kero Hi, sorry, metal _what??_ X-X
Still more authentic than 90% of stuff seen in movies and games. I'll send a thumbs up back in time to the young Lloyd.
Of course when they were making Excalibur they thought, "what would be a good font for our credits of our movie based on medieval legend?" "Oh just go with some groovy Austin Powers font that looks good"
Yes, that has dated strangely. The film has dated in other ways too, but it's still a masterpiece.
I agree I own it on dvd, nice to see that the armour seems to actually function properly (Except for at the end when 2 characters skewer each other in full plate which doesnt really prove the point)
Well Arthur does have excalibur, but as far as I know, Mordred just has a spear. Even if it was, it wouldn't stop me from being sick of "wow this weapon can cut through anything because magicks!" Then again, this movie was made in 1981, and it's still better than most
"...but it's still a masterpiece..."
So's Helen Mirren...
Yeah, Arthur pulls himself up the magic spear Mordred impales him with, and sticks Excalibur in him.
Lindybeige: aims at 5th or 6th century armor, makes 19th century tank crewmen armor
19th century tanks! Damm they must be quite advanced to have tanks before they where invented in 1916
@@akriegguardsman That Leonardo guy was really on to something.
"Gorgeeeee? No... We're English, Gorgit!" XD
I can't stop staring at the space that's missing a ring in the middle of Lindy's chest.
Oxnate Thank fuck someone else noticed that. Also the plates have 5 rings on the sides
You're fucking with my ocd ... my precious
Well, now *I* can't... Thanks for that!😅
"its a bit of a cheat, its not authentic", Lindybeige, If their armor was falling apart and they had some wire to try and repair It with, I bet they would ;D
He was young and he needed the armor.
and sadly at that time was dark ages - computers was high priced and no google or internet . Dark Ages..
D&D official term.
: Lindymail
You even got a peasant shirt too, Lindyman, do full cosplays!
Stas Twinkleton
I think he is more interested in reenactment or roleplay
Stas Twinkleton You have to cosplay a specific character..
He's reenacting and Larpg ing
He did. Nowadays, he usually consplays a silly style dancer with the same shirt and who loves lard.
magic Pig is pig.
I think that linen is too high quality to be something a medieval peasant would have worn.
All maille is butted once you sit on it...
🤦♂️
@@Bear-Knight do u r dum
10:42 "flapage"
Maybe they didn't extend the nose-guard because then they'd have to take off their helmet to eat. You know, in case you're fighting during lunch or whatever.
Edit: oh, you just mentioned eating in that thing, too.
I don't suppose you could review cardboard armour and I talk about the advantages and disadvantages? No? In reality I imagine it might be quite efficacious!
Samuel Cliff What of spiked cardboard armour?
Well, the Chinese did have paper armour ....
believe it or not layered paper Armour is quite effective. its stiff and heavy but it will save you from an arrow... maybe.
TheBritishGeek Well it probably saved the Chinese from British guns during the Opium Wars... Or wait was it the other way around?
Wouldn't padded cardboard armour be effective against blunt object and small knives ? Might be effective as a cheap armour to protect oneself against antifas in a protest.
But the real question is: is it teaproof?
TheEvanator03 Loyd surely wouldn't want any tea inundating his clothing!
Hopefully it can protect him from Frenchmen.
Yes, I'm sure every time Sir Robin, the not-quite-so-brave-as-Sir-Lancelot, soiled his armour he had simply spilled his tea. :P
Nonenowhere Wtf?
jamais aucne armure n arrêtera un francais XD
"I was 17, and the internet... well, nobody had even thought of it. And I was at a school in the middle of the country. I didn't have access to the information. I had what was in my head, what I'd seen in movies and experimentation to go with. (Points to his body)"
Is that bit about armor or early erotic experiences at boarding school?
10:24 *grabs the stack of singles and makes it rain on Lloyd* Oh yeah, shake it.
belly dancing at 10:21
Dat bellydance!
True... a warriors belly dance!!
Gif material right there!
Needs a GIF!
DANCE FOR ME LLOYD
imaging 15 yr old lindy with that hairline and beard
No.
ahaha
Mistah Susan
Lol nice profile pic xD
and wearing a helmet in school.
jort93z sure why not.
also he would plug the courses plus in idle conversation with his
peers.
Beige's like a smart manchild. I love it.
The Gyrms called they want their armour back
Haha totally. Their beige pants too.
After you mentioned that rings kept falling off I couldn't keep myself from obsessively trying to find where they'd fallen from.
Lindy you're quite skilled at uploading interesting videos at 11:00pm Australian time.
Practice.
tss very irritating as an Australian that i get a notification and have to wake up purely to watch lindybeige
I love it when you ramble on so. Thank you for sharing the stories Lindy.
Re the nose plate not fully extending to the chin guard, it seems that there would be advantages to having greater exposure of the mouth. It would help with being heard, and it would be easier to get a swig of water, without disarming.
Well, you could still attach it slightly sideways with 2 symmetrical extensions.
I love the smell of Lindybeige in the m-
That sounds wrong...
I love the sight of Lindybeige™ Armour in the morning!
what
For stalin anything that isnt a murder is good
I like how you added the trademark ™, SplinterOscar.
mad kobra, because they tend to be structurally dependent on welfare and thus overwhelmingly vote socialist. If they didn't, there would be walls everywhere.
I thought your new armour was finished when I read the title
Me too :(
I am disappoint.
You would have loved my first grade teacher. She arranged all kinds of medieval fun stuff like a big overnighter feast complete with a knight in armor, and on two separate occasions a dragon hunt and leprechaun hunt. She was really into leprechauns, and did tons of leprechaun lore stuff with the kids. She had a vivid green VW beetle and died her hair green on St. Patrick's Day and said it was her leprechaun playing a trick on her. By far the best teacher ever, hands down.
That's just awesome! :)
This was great. You shouldn't have made excuses for your armor; it was your 1st armor and you did a great job on it, and really thought it through.
btw, I'd love to see some videos, if you'd care to cover the subject, on medieval architecture. Not just the great Gothic buildings, but thatch huts and "ordinary" buildings. You describe things so creatively and with such enthusiasm.
I can certainly believe you weighted the armor so accurately you can provide the weight down to the milligram.
Metric never gives convenient figures.
In the "Four ways to shoot" Video, you said "Yards", which confused me greatly.
Admit it Lloyd, as an englishman, what realy bothers you about the metric system isn't the "inconvenient figures", but the fact, that it's french. :D
Lindybeige and yet it is the superior measuring system
Bird_Dog Maybe a more valid criticism!
Lloyd you are my hero although the fact you dont drink tea concerns me deeply :)
I love sweet tea... Does that count?
10:20
EVERYBODY DO THE LINDYBEIGE DANCE!
I am always amazed by your content, cheers from Costa Rica
Armor looks good
You wore that helmet around school...... I bet you were popular
that’s the beauty of it, you can intimidate people into being your friend
Happy to hear the history of your live enactments and armour pursuing history Lloyd. Takes me back happily to Questland days ;)
"I'd rather have a broken nose than my head chopped in two, thank you very much" haha this is the most English thing I've heard in a while. (Im American btw)
That actually looks really badass
It's pretty... METAL :D
looks like something an Orc would wear.
Well, that's interesting... I'm currently making a visby coat of plates at almost the same age
But today you have internet access to more information than existed in any form when I was at school.
Merliginary Get rekt son xD
Also, companies exist today that will make a lot of stuff for you. If money is no object, they can build it for you, or you can get the steel wire and a hand-crank (or electric drill) spindle to turn out your own rings, or you can even buy the rings pre-turned and cut so all you have to do is assemble it. You can get different metals, anodized in an amazing assortment of colours, even scale is just as available.
We are very spoiled today compared to ye olde pre-internet days.
No, it was because the electric meter hadn't been invented so the lights didn't work.
2bingtim is correct, pre-Edison times also referred to as "dark ages". I know he meant it as a joke, but it is correct, and considerably less smelly than setting alight fatty animals...
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You remind me so much of the friends I grew up with. Humble, slightly nerdy, intelligent, and very genuine. Please don't stop bud! You totally tap into my inner geek. Cheers and beers from North Carolina!
When I close my eyes, I can imagine Basil Fawlty. You have the same style of speech I think. John Cleese's speech is so similar to yours. Always a joy to see a new video from you, thank you!
Maderyne I was trying to place were I've heard his voice before? by jove you got it lol
Servants = good. No man should be without one. :D
"I ran out of links" - a part of me imagined you ran out of lives in some Legend of Zelda game...
TheFilthyCasual well, that would be #2 I think.
That was the only one I know of where you could run out of lives.
All the others I've played just count up your number of deaths.
This was probably the best armor you ever had, I like it, it was very interesting and inspiring!
10:22 Wow Lindybeige! Great moves, keep it up. Proud of you.
My favorite part of your videos is where you trail off explaining things like the part about the dark ages.
LandoCowDelicion Aka the whole video is your favorite part :)
Is it just me or does the helmet remind anyone else of the B Wing pilot helmets from Return of the Jedi?
I love the armour though, I'm 17 and I can barely make a fried egg let alone a set of armour.
I didn't figure out the fried egg until my 40's, so don't feel bad. As for armour, start now; it certainly couldn't hurt.
Lol, when I was 16 I could make armor but couldn’t even touch an oven with out setting something or someone on fire
I just want to say: I like the idea of the ending joke being split in two and this Lego guy obscuring the second part for a brief second.
The second I heard him say "How could you find out more about the medieval period" I was just like
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What you did growing up is what I wanted to do growing up. Making armor and doing reenactment? Sounds like a blast! Ah, but did you almost cut your friend's finger off with a sword you made?
10:21 for a sexy dance.
Ahh, that sight will last me many a lonely night.
I just saw your video on shooting a rifle in Switzerland, looked at the rest of your channel's offerings and immediately subscribed.
Just looked up gormless. Thank you for adding a new word to my vocabulary.
lindybeige belly dancing?
8.391459 kg, eh? Is that exact?
Jacob Harrison it was until he lost another ring
He measured in imperial units and then he probably just converted it into metric
18.5 pounds converted to kg gives you exactly that number, at least in Google.
You are a great man sir! Godspeed Sir Linybeige!
I love watching your videos about, weapons, tanks, etc...
Your armor is pretty cool.
:)
You still fit into something you made when you're 17? ... I envy you...
"I do remember getting very lucky once, one weekend" ~Lindybeige
Someone should do a supercut of Lindybeige just saying, "The DARK AGES!"
When I lived in England, I was in the Sealed Knot , English Civil War re enactments, great fun , cavalry charges ,real horses, plastic swords from the movie Cromwell.
I love this guy ,a real English eccentric
Cor! Dawngaurd armour!!
I believe it's steel plates on leather above a gambeson. I haven't seen a set for like four months though, I burnt out on Skyrim a while ago.
Ok.ok. it LOOKS a bit like dawngaurd armour.
Yeah, but we all know that Bethesda never looks into this sort of thing.
It needs some enchantments tho....
At least they didnt give the dawnguard characters the normal chainmail with a tunic on it-style like all city guards have. Also, I neither have not played the game in a while because I managed to lose my PS3 :-/ Been waiting for years to get it on PC to start playing it like crazy again...
Yey for Lloyd
I'm very impressed. Chain mail seems to be one of the most complicated, and time-consuming things to manufacture - each ring having it's ends hammered flat, drilled and rivetted. Whilst being linked together with others to create a cohesive whole. You said that you just closed the rings - but kudos for that, there must be thousands of them! Nice one, sir.
I love your segways and tangents, they're exactly like a conversations. You start a conversation with passion and end up somewhere else completely.
About the headspoons. Speak to gridiron players about how the use of armour in that sport leads to harder hits. I used to play and there is no remorse about hitting someone as hard as you can when you can in all that padding.
Never played gridiron but I do play rugby and trust me there is absolutely no remorse about hitting each other as hard as possible with no armour or protection on, gridiron players are a lot better off with their helmets
This is a problem in boxing as well.
Once padded gloves became the norm head blows became common, and thus brain damage has become common later in life.
Similar issue in American football, the large padding and helmets they wear mean they're not afraid to use themselves as battering rams. To their own mental detriment later in life.
The pride he had was so genuine! Also, I really liked that design, a poor man from the medieval period would be blessed to have that armor over a gambeson.
With the helmet on, it looks like a greco/celt/mogul mash up of a wandering knight errant. Huzzah!
"THE DARK AGES"... I love the excitement on your eye every time you say this.
Maybe someone tell Skallagrim about this so we could get a functional version made just to see if it's effective?
Just a suggestion.
I sent Skall my studded leather armour from my LARP days for that purpose. What Lloyd said about being a teen in pre-internet days with D&D manuals and movies has a main source of inspiration/reference rings so true to me.
Given that similar armor was worn across most of Western, Central, and South Asian with the Japanese also having their own version I would say that it was effective
Christian Lapointe I hate to derail the convo but how in the sam hell do you have 5mil+ subs?
Uh... He doesn't.
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Quite decent protection, only problem is the armour keeps falling apart.
It will last through a battle, and that's what matters. With riveted links it would be fine.
I like hearing about the problem solving you went through in making armour. Most things in life are not as simple to make as you would think at first.
whoa, that sponsor drop came right out of nowhere! I didnt even know that I was gonna get more of them later
Can you get through airport security wearing that? Is it Zombie proof? No flap to protect your junk?
Right?! He needs that cod piece!
I understand the comfy helmet feels, I have a steel helmet from the 60s and I wear it while tending bar at parties and while playing table top games, nice and comfy.
I've made some butted mail shirts, and a friend made me a mid-thigh length scale armor by cutting the scaled from black plastic storage bins and tying it all together under the scales. That suit lasted me for over a decade, even though I was always replacing cordage after the first few years.
Great design :) I'm really impressed
Looks like iranian or russian armor from 15 or 16 hundreds.look up "behterets"
I Googled this and got nothing, Spelling?
Yeap, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_and_plate_armour it's behterets
Yeah, looks like some sort of the hybrid between bechterets and kalantar... and some fantasy=)
fizikshizik, yeap, pretty much so. It would work fine with riveted male, so it's quite a good armor actually
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Moro armor
That's some clever armor
Youre "prudish" nature towards sponsors was worth it, great partnership
All three of the Great Courses Middle ages courses are excellent. I think your food observations are the reason for the nose guard stopping where it does.
So today I watched a middle-aged man belly dancing on a sofa whilst wearing a suit of armour.
How was your day?
Thank you for gorget! Matt Easton said gorjay on his last video and it made me cringe.
Ty Larson For some reason English historians have started to pronounce English words in a French way. They must have figured out the superiority of continental Europe.
I think it is weird that by providing the correct dictionary pronounciation over at schola gladiatora yesterday for gorget netting me a bunch of insults. Sometimes I forget about youtube and the comment section.
Lloyd.. I think your thumbnails are my favorite.
You look so damn happy trying that helmet on!
This has inspired me to make my own armour and so that’s what I’ve been working on lately I’ve cleaned out an old barn and I’m using it as a work shop and I’ve got the stuff for making chain Malle links and now I’m working on making a chain mail Huarbuak or however it’s spelt but it’ll be another year before it’s done 😂