Versus Series: Mace Windu VS. Darth Caedus

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  • Опубликовано: 20 апр 2021
  • It feels good to be back! In today's epic matchup we pit the powerful Master of the Old Jedi Order Mace Windu against the mighty Grandson of Darth Vader Darth Caedus!
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    I do NOT own the movie footage used in this. Star Wars is owned by Lucasfilm, Disney, and Fox.
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  • @EvanNova95
    @EvanNova95  3 года назад +166

    It feels good to be back! Just a heads up, I will be doing a "Post-Q&A" video for this matchup so don't hesitate to leave any questions/criticisms below. Hope you enjoy!

    • @CandyChaos7
      @CandyChaos7 3 года назад +9

      When will someone from the verus series make a matchup for Set Harth?

    • @foreignroninl1555
      @foreignroninl1555 3 года назад +1

      Which lightsaber forms are your personal favorites, and why?

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 3 года назад +6

      Will you and the rest of the Fanalysis Council do any video about the few half decent Disney canon things such as Jedi Fallen Order or The Mandalorian ? As massively overrated as the second one can be and despite many of you not even playing the game, just to see if your predictions about Disney Star Wars sinking lower were true years ago (as they turned out to be).....
      Otherwise, will you use more NJO or Legacy Eras characters, such as Saba Sebatyne, Mara Jade, Leia Organa Solo, Cade Skywalker, Shado Vao, Ganner Krieg or Tahiri Veila ? Or anyone from the KOTOR and SWTOR games, comics and novels who hasn't been used such as Gnost Dural, Darth Jadus, Darth Marr, Jolee Bindo, Visas Marr or Vrook Lamar ?

    • @mets2128
      @mets2128 3 года назад +5

      Still want my Ki Adi vs Jolee matchup

    • @callmetopgun45
      @callmetopgun45 3 года назад +5

      Let me be clear. I am a very critical of Darth Vader vs Darth Caedus. But this video made me smile. It did justice to both of my characters and gave a very satisfying verdict.
      On another note, perhaps you could settle a debate I am having with a friend. I believe that Anakin Skywalker’s lightsaber style is tier 1 in his era and tier 1.5 all time. I believe his downfall comes in his tactics and lackluster use of the force. My friend believes that his blade work is overrated and is tier 3 at best. What do you think? Again wonderful video

  • @goroakechi6126
    @goroakechi6126 3 года назад +408

    “What does Mara Jade look like?”
    “...What?”
    *Mace Windu flips Table*
    “What system you from?”
    “What?”
    “WHAT NO SYSTEM I EVER HEARD OF, THEY SPEAK BASIC IN WHAT?”
    “What-“
    “BASIC, KARRABLAST, DO YOU SPEAK IT”
    -Mace Windu to Darth Caedus

    • @TwinMoonwing
      @TwinMoonwing 3 года назад +51

      Yes! I speak Basic!
      DESCRIBE WHAT MARA JADE LOOKS LIKE!
      What?
      (Mace cuts off his other arm)
      (Caedus screams)
      OH, I'M SORRY! DID I BREAK YOUR CONCENTRATION?!

    • @superkamiguru1324
      @superkamiguru1324 3 года назад +4

      Thank you Akechi very cool

    • @drachna
      @drachna 3 года назад +16

      'BIG TAATOOINI BURGER!'

    • @foreignroninl1555
      @foreignroninl1555 3 года назад +4

      @@drachna Now I'm curious what that would look and taste like, as well as what it would be made of. My best guess is that the patty would likely be made of Bantha meat.

    • @jaykobwalson1941
      @jaykobwalson1941 3 года назад +16

      @@TwinMoonwing SAY WHAT AGAIN, I DARE YOU I DOUBLE DARE YOU KARRABLAST!!! SAY WHAT ONE MORE GODDAMN TIME!

  • @silascraven
    @silascraven 3 года назад +236

    The legend himself has returned in our time of great sorrow

  • @bannedfromtrees
    @bannedfromtrees 3 года назад +185

    I’ve been watching the core group of y’all’s videos for about 6 or so years man, and y’all always have the most in depth analysis and outcomes. People who watch eckhartsladder and any of the bigger Star Wars channels should see you guys as well, you’re a pinnacle of Star Wars lore and questions, keep it up man, we appreciate you

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 3 года назад +9

      Likewise, been following them since 2014 on my old account lol
      And by far, Evan, Connor, Matt and Antoine (though he gave up on SW) always touched the subjects with so much more depth than many of the big SW channels ever do.
      Edit : thanks for the heart, Evan hahaha

    • @starwarfan8342
      @starwarfan8342 3 года назад +5

      Goddamnit, I miss the Council Forcecast. Just sometime around the time when Rebels season 2 came out, their content just sort of trailed off and they broke up. I didn't look into it and just sort of forgot about them. I moved on and found other star wars channels. Don't get me wrong, I still like SWT, Thor Skywalker, Geeks and Gamers, and the rest, but these guys were always the first.

    • @macattackk
      @macattackk 3 года назад +5

      @@starwarfan8342 you are aware of fanalysis... right?
      It’s Reti’s channel that he renamed, and it’s where they post all their group stuff aka what used to be council forcecast

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 3 года назад +3

      @@starwarfan8342 No kidding. Reti4 has become more of a host channel for the others, and even then the uploads are so far and few in-between. Antoine moved on solely to Avatar contents, with small exceptions such as his Mandalorian videos and JFO streams, but still, he's too burned out. And Matt a.k.a. GreyJedi91 is probably too busy with his job, as his last upload was over 2 years ago and he only appears for the occasional Council videos. One can hope, but still...
      The other guys are cool but they're too....casual or too focused on the garbage Disney content to really enjoy them.

  • @kidomniman8635
    @kidomniman8635 Год назад +20

    The real thing about caedus' ability to deal with pain and injuries is that when his arm was cut off with a beskar blade he not only kept fighting but sprayed jaina with his blood to use a dathomiri blood technique which allowed him to track her through the force.
    Even with his arm cut off just below the shoulder he is still capable of using rare force techniques.

  • @kyojurorengoku730
    @kyojurorengoku730 3 года назад +19

    Kylo Ren: I'm the legacy of Vader👿
    Darth Caedus to Luke: Should I tell him? 🤔

  • @bohemianrhapsody2244
    @bohemianrhapsody2244 3 года назад +50

    "If only you knew how long I have been waiting for this."

    • @darylsdesigns6679
      @darylsdesigns6679 3 года назад +4

      Ah I get it, Palpatine’s words in the ROTS novel

  • @gabenewell3717
    @gabenewell3717 3 года назад +116

    A matchup that I think would make for a really interesting video is Valenthyne Farfalla vs Qui-Gon Jinn. The last Jedi to fight the Sith before they went into hiding pitted against the first Jedi to fight the Sith after their reemergence. I think it’d be a pretty even fight, and thematically, I think it’s really cool.

    • @TSPH1992
      @TSPH1992 3 года назад +5

      I got another idea Oppo rancissus vs. Qu Rahn

    • @jakealter5504
      @jakealter5504 3 года назад +3

      I’d probably go with farfalla since he had years of combat experience fighting the sith

    • @jakealter5504
      @jakealter5504 3 года назад +3

      @Greensaber- Gemini. there wasn’t much that farfala could do since bane was essentially a near unstoppable juggernaut due to his orbalisk armor

    • @JabezFuutonSpecialis
      @JabezFuutonSpecialis 3 года назад

      @Wes Bradley-Taubner Feats alone don't guarantee anything. Remember that Farfalla did assist in taking on Bane. Maul in comparison is nothing to Bane. So it could still go either way

    • @LeftytheGansterGremlin
      @LeftytheGansterGremlin 2 года назад +1

      I like this idea! I always liked Farfalla, too.

  • @reneelawton1032
    @reneelawton1032 3 года назад +79

    You scared me when you said, "Darth Caedus could be right next you...watching you...right...now." Yes, Caedus is definitely more terrifying than people give him credit. I know Jaina felt conflicted after defeating him, but I'm glad she did!

    • @TSPH1992
      @TSPH1992 3 года назад +10

      The reason why Jacen became caedus was that he wanted to prevent his daughter from ending up next to the dark man on the throne of balance. But in the end he just delayed the inevitable

    • @naseemweathers8358
      @naseemweathers8358 3 года назад +9

      He was a true dark Lord of the Sith so was his Sith Master they both followed the rule of two they didn’t try to change it like previous Sith before them
      They also followed the tenants of Darth Bane they didn’t kill for sadistic pleasure they only killed when necessary

  • @tweso1499
    @tweso1499 3 года назад +42

    The last time I was this early, Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan was rescuing Queen Amidala

  • @dimond360_
    @dimond360_ 3 года назад +25

    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES JUST YES. Thank you for showing up at this point in time great master of the versus series it's been a rough one today and you just made the day go from an F to an A in 3 seconds

  • @Spike-vp2cx
    @Spike-vp2cx 3 года назад +50

    Am I the only one amazed that Aurra Sing was still alive and still a bounty hunter by the time of Legacy of the Force? Because I did the math (Looking up her age on Wookipedia) and she was in her early 90's at the time of LotF.

    • @TheCreepyLantern
      @TheCreepyLantern 3 года назад +16

      that lady had so much anger inside, little things like time or logic couldn't stop her from making herself the galaxy's problem

    • @EvanNova95
      @EvanNova95  3 года назад +38

      She is implied to have some Anzati heritage and Anzati have REALLY long lifespans.

    • @Apathy.Apathy.
      @Apathy.Apathy. 3 года назад

      @@EvanNova95 1,400 years, I think?

    • @iceomistar4302
      @iceomistar4302 3 года назад +9

      It's sort of like how Mara Jade never aged between heir to the empire and Legacy, she has eternal youth, Luke must have it too, because he doesn't seem that much older either

    • @EvanNova95
      @EvanNova95  3 года назад +19

      @@iceomistar4302 The power of the LightSide goes a long way. :)

  • @LordDagovere
    @LordDagovere 3 года назад +22

    The most underappreciated star wars channel. Literally inspired me to start.
    Gotta say fam, I don't think there is anyone that can compete with your analysis.
    Loved the format. Can't wait for your next one.

  • @TrumpImmortal
    @TrumpImmortal 3 года назад +19

    Ooo. Must be my birthday if i see a new one of these pop up. Now, get greyjedi91 back in the game. The man's voice is the pinnacle of unintentional asmr.

  • @wristofkings
    @wristofkings 3 года назад +13

    Excellent vid, a much more complete and fair evaluation than your prior Caedus vs Vader matchup. I agree with your conclusions. Jacen/Caedus may have been a pretender in terms of Sith philosophy, but his combative strengths and comprehensive knowledge made him one of the greatest threats to the Galaxy since Palpatine.

  • @sjeason
    @sjeason 3 года назад +72

    In celebration of the Kotor Remake being announced, I have a suggestion. Revan VS Kyle Katarn
    Both are extremely skilled duelists, both have immense strength with the force, and both have experience with being on both sides of the force, so I think it would be a fairly even match.

    • @darylsdesigns6679
      @darylsdesigns6679 3 года назад +7

      That would be a sight to see

    • @khalduras784
      @khalduras784 3 года назад +9

      oooh now that would be interesting. As far as combat prowess such as lightsaber mastery and physical augmentations, id say Kyle Katarn trumps Revan where as in terms of mastery with the force or knowledge, i might say Revan.
      Thing about Revan i feel like is that he's more of a scholar rather than an actual powerhouse. Most of his feats are far too vague and he has knowledge but never able to reach the potential before his death or setbacks such as the imprisonment from Swtor

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 3 года назад +2

      my apologies, I read the comment as revan vs kylo ren. I'm blind 😂

    • @marcusarnold9175
      @marcusarnold9175 3 года назад +1

      In my opinion Kyle Katarn would take this one.

    • @khalduras784
      @khalduras784 3 года назад +2

      @Emperor Vowrawn that' a horrible example. That was from a time when Luke didnt even take up the title Grandmaster. That was back when he only recently opened his jedi praxium.
      GM Luke is the Luke that existed by the end of the Legacy era. To compare using Luke from the sun crusher era is like comparing using Anakin from Phantom Menance

  • @ifarded4986
    @ifarded4986 2 года назад +1

    I really LOVE how in depth you go and how you back your hypothesis with citation! Keep it up!

  • @seniorwhalez1
    @seniorwhalez1 3 года назад +4

    This video was great. This was a great breakdown of caedus, very happy to see his character and abilities get such justice on this channel.

  • @jeskerjames2938
    @jeskerjames2938 3 года назад +9

    The section on "Oneness" reminds me of one of the most simple explanations I have to explain the difference between Sith and Jedi: Sith seek to bend the Force to their will. True Jedi (Qui-Gon, Ahsoka, Legends Luke) seek to bend to the will of the Force.

  • @kconroy4617
    @kconroy4617 3 года назад +17

    Nicely done. Great to see Jaina is coming back to Versus. Ani is about to get dat WORK from Jaina!

  • @Mrjoshstaff2
    @Mrjoshstaff2 3 года назад +2

    LOVED this style bro. keep this up and we'll have your best season to date on our hands

  • @cloudftw113
    @cloudftw113 3 года назад +67

    I'm a simple man, I see my homie Darth Caedus/Jacen Solo, I press like.

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 3 года назад +15

      Right in the face of Crylo Ren, ha !

    • @FrostAzgori3167
      @FrostAzgori3167 3 года назад +1

      Same

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 3 года назад +6

      @The Cambot Doesn't remotely stack up. Jacen's history is much richer and he had more believable causes for his fall : being shoved into a horrific war, lost his younger brother Anakin, tortured, was slowly seduced by two former Sith apprentices (Vergere and Lumiya), and the tipping point was him receiving a vision about a dark man taking over the galaxy and taking his daughter as his apprentice, somehow believing that Luke Skywalker had to be killed to prevent that. He kills Luke's wife, tries to corrupt his son, masterfully takes control over the Galactic Federation (successor to the New Republic). Overall, he was smart, crafty, believed that becoming a Sith was a necessary evil to save the Galaxy from bigger threats.
      TL;DR: Crylo doesn't even stack up. He was a whiny manchild with daddy issues who lived an overly sheltered life, was groomed since childhood by a voice in his head, yet Luke never noticed or done anything about it. Where Caedus was a powerful scholar, he is just a blunt instrument. Never called his own shots or a clear agenda outside of his Vader fanboy phase or "lEt ThE PaSt DiE", never faced a true opponent yet he was defeated almost everytime.
      In short, Caedus was shrewd, knowledgeable, had much more success, had his own twisted morals, and was insanely powerful.
      Kylo is just some dumb edgy kid.

    • @FrostAzgori3167
      @FrostAzgori3167 3 года назад +4

      @The Cambot Kylo Ren is trash, you can't compare trash to something good. It's just wrong man!

    • @TSPH1992
      @TSPH1992 3 года назад +2

      @The Cambot kylo is a wimp. Jacen on the other hand had character and motivation

  • @paladin195k3
    @paladin195k3 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the years of amazing content.

  • @jimpat2489
    @jimpat2489 3 года назад +2

    This gonna be fantastic. You just made my day man i love your videos. They are so well made and always worth the wait

  • @ariesstorm9577
    @ariesstorm9577 3 года назад +9

    That was epic!!! So happy that Caedus emerged as the victor (it truly was “a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one” moment)

  • @codymojoe5935
    @codymojoe5935 3 года назад +4

    You definitely should use this style of format from now on. I would never have thought to come up with an idea like it. Nice work.

  • @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
    @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty 2 года назад +1

    I used to watch these all the time and I always loved them. Very good videos

  • @MegaWizard79
    @MegaWizard79 3 года назад +14

    No, by all means, please just end Tenten's misery already. She has, nor had anything to live for.
    As Lord Odion would say, "Just end the pain."

  • @LordDagovere
    @LordDagovere 3 года назад +2

    Some of the best content on the Tube. Thanks so much fam.

  • @samuelbumgardner5518
    @samuelbumgardner5518 3 года назад

    I have been waiting for this for a very long time!!! Thank you Evan!!!

  • @gokuthehedgehog100
    @gokuthehedgehog100 3 года назад +14

    Grandfather vs Granddaughter. I'm already ready lol.

    • @darylsdesigns6679
      @darylsdesigns6679 3 года назад

      I haven’t read all the New Jedi Order era books yet. Aside from her victory over Darth Caedus, what are Jaina Solo’s other dueling feats?

    • @gokuthehedgehog100
      @gokuthehedgehog100 3 года назад +1

      @@darylsdesigns6679 Best to watch the video where she's pitted against Darth Plageus

    • @parkersummerlin865
      @parkersummerlin865 3 года назад

      I'm gonna say Anakin will win but by the skin of his teeth.

    • @gokuthehedgehog100
      @gokuthehedgehog100 3 года назад

      @@parkersummerlin865 Maybe

    • @Irmarinen
      @Irmarinen 3 года назад +1

      DW: [inhales] I HAVA A GRANDDAUGHTER TOO?! I'M A GRANDPA! I MUST TELL EVERYONE!!!

  • @juresaiyan
    @juresaiyan 2 года назад +1

    This channel is a distillation of everything I love about SW: depth.

  • @Futuretense101
    @Futuretense101 3 года назад

    Welcome back! Love your content. Keep it coming 😃

  • @MichaelMyers101
    @MichaelMyers101 3 года назад

    Great to see you back! Awesome video!

  • @fadelibrahim4079
    @fadelibrahim4079 3 года назад +3

    You never fail to disappoint Evan!

  • @Zeroauto20
    @Zeroauto20 3 года назад +1

    Glad your back man your content always lit

  • @romerojackson4405
    @romerojackson4405 3 года назад

    He's back. I've been waiting patiently. This is worth the wait.

  • @mattbrittain2180
    @mattbrittain2180 3 года назад

    Again Evan puts out and amazing vs vid! Awesome job, this one makes my top 5 vs videos!

  • @jeremyleonjonas7657
    @jeremyleonjonas7657 3 года назад +7

    Awesome video and well worth the wait xD now excuse me, I'll have to get my snacks ready and watch this beauty.
    Hope you like the artwork I made for the episode ^^

  • @OfficialRaveBlitz
    @OfficialRaveBlitz 3 года назад +14

    MY BOI IS BACK!!!

  • @marcustinsley2290
    @marcustinsley2290 3 года назад

    I experience so much excitement every time you upload a new video 💯🔥

  • @ariesstorm9577
    @ariesstorm9577 3 года назад +2

    I was not expecting this so soon. Time to finish the washing up, make a coffee, sit back and enjoy this versus video 😃

  • @matthiasmccormack3213
    @matthiasmccormack3213 3 года назад +17

    So... I agree with all the advantages and how you doled them out... but a part of me thinks Windu would still come out on top. Ironically enough, it’s the missing hand that you correctly pointed out wouldn’t affect an ordinary space wizard the same as us. Quite frankly, it limits Caedus’ ability to attack with the blade and another weapon, or the blade and lightning. I think a two-handed Caedus could overwhelm Windu, but a one-handed one might be a minuscule bit too linear

    • @iceomistar4302
      @iceomistar4302 3 года назад

      I agree, however I feel like his massive force strength would come out on top

  • @michaelmckeithan2293
    @michaelmckeithan2293 Год назад +2

    I've been watching you, Antonio, Grey Jedi, and Jensurai for 6 or 7 years now. I hope you always make Star Wars Versus videos. You guys brought me in like no body else. I went from someone that was kind of meh, about Star Wars to someone that was passionate and knowledgeable because of you and the others. I will always be a fan, and I will always have this deeper understanding of the force and it's forms because of you.
    Keep going man.

  • @LongfusedbombasticBarbarian
    @LongfusedbombasticBarbarian 3 года назад

    Very fun one been hanging in the back for years you do very good work

  • @jordanschoepke1864
    @jordanschoepke1864 3 года назад +1

    Hell yeah! Been waiting for this!

  • @andrewgeorgecomeau4066
    @andrewgeorgecomeau4066 2 года назад +10

    I think its very impressive that he was able to beat Mara Jade. Sad, sick ,but impressive.

    • @goroakechi6126
      @goroakechi6126 Месяц назад

      Not to mention, he beat her before he even became a Sith, WHILE she had all the preparation she could ever want.
      Admittedly I wish it was someone else he killed though, as Zahn was ignored entirely.

  • @jamesburrelljr.8561
    @jamesburrelljr.8561 3 года назад

    Welcome back Evan. Nice quality as always.

  • @centerofstar
    @centerofstar 3 года назад +1

    It is always a treat to see the versus series Evan. Amazing job as always and prop the longest video I've ever watch.
    I actually wanted to read the New Jedi Order series to get some much closer insight plus I want to learn how to write fight scenes for my novel since you've praise the Jacen Solo vs Mara Jade battle.
    Can't wait to see the Anakin vs Jaina Solo verses video (though i'm sure Jaina will unfortunately stomp Anakin)

  • @erieperry8241
    @erieperry8241 3 года назад

    Ive been looking forward to this!

  • @gabrielcanejo187
    @gabrielcanejo187 3 года назад +2

    Can't wait to see more of this Season!
    Hopefully it doesn't take long until the next match.

  • @billymays8820
    @billymays8820 3 года назад

    I always saw your videos so late I almost thought you stopped keep it rollen 🤙

  • @harkonusvile
    @harkonusvile 3 года назад

    I've enjoyed the detailed analysis and begrudgingly agree with your conclusions.

  • @JediAcolyte94
    @JediAcolyte94 3 года назад +1

    Always a pleasure to see another vid from you or the other Fanalysis members in my feed and looking forward to the Anakin Skywalker vs. Jaina that you teased in the vid. I'm very much in agreement with the ultimate verdict here and would like to see you continue with the new format. I look forward to seeing more from you in the future. I hope that you or your fellow council members consider doing one of these matchups in the future:
    1. Jerec vs. Dooku or Darth Wyyrlok III
    2. Corran Horn vs. Yareal Poof or Yaddle
    3. Tahiri Veila vs. Adi Galia
    4. Rahm Kota vs. Even Piell
    5. Oppo Rancisis vs. Saba Sebatyne

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 3 года назад

      1. Dooku
      2. Corran, on the basis that we have so little feats from either Poof or Yaddle, though she might pose a bigger threat.
      3 & 4. These are actually interesting ones.
      5. Same for this one, though I lean towards Saba.

  • @aedenali5985
    @aedenali5985 3 года назад +2

    Yeaassssssssss
    For tears I've years for an actual good Anakin verses video

  • @DarthMatusHolocron
    @DarthMatusHolocron 3 года назад +8

    Sees a 2 hour video from Evan with one of my favorite characters.
    The Force is with us!

  • @jonathonbenfield6110
    @jonathonbenfield6110 3 года назад

    I've been looking forward to this.

  • @VoiceOfTheEmperor
    @VoiceOfTheEmperor 3 года назад +1

    It's good to see you again, old friend.

  • @cliftonsargent1572
    @cliftonsargent1572 2 года назад

    This is what I’ve been looking for!!

  • @jonathanwood2446
    @jonathanwood2446 3 года назад +4

    "I've been looking forward to this"

  • @ashe274
    @ashe274 3 года назад

    Always happy to see a video featuring Caedus!
    ...although I have a bad feeling about this one, NGL, lol.
    Good to see you upload again Evan, hope you’re doing good these days :)

  • @archangel5526
    @archangel5526 3 года назад

    Evan you are the only thing keeping me interested in Star Wars now.

  • @warmcrunch3829
    @warmcrunch3829 3 года назад

    I’ve been looking forward to this

  • @alexanderholland6796
    @alexanderholland6796 3 года назад

    Yesss!! You're back!!

  • @TheGaborlein
    @TheGaborlein 3 года назад

    loved it! keep up the work

  • @yrooxrksvi7142
    @yrooxrksvi7142 3 года назад +11

    OOOOHHHH MAI GAAAAAAAAAAAHD. I'll come back to this comment once I'm done with this beauty.
    Edit : Now that I fully watched it, this was an absolute treat. Truly shows how your analysis skills have matured, Evan. And it is so satisfying to hear "Darth Caedus, the heir of Vader" uttered, as he truly is.
    -MakesMeKindaWishYouWouldDoAReduxofVaderVsCaedusDownTheLine- :p

    • @goroakechi6126
      @goroakechi6126 3 года назад +3

      I’d be very down for that. Evan’s opinions have clearly changed for the better on Caedus since then, and I’m all for it.

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 3 года назад

      @@goroakechi6126 Exactly, and the rundowns would be pretty much layed out for both characters.

    • @naseemweathers8358
      @naseemweathers8358 3 года назад

      He is nothing like Vader if anything he’s more like Sidious in the way he manipulated event so he could assume power of the galactic alliance

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 3 года назад

      @@naseemweathers8358 And that, in a way, makes him a superior. True, Vader has a better track record of kills, but after Order 66 and being a glorified lapdog put some perspective.

  • @slimdiddyd
    @slimdiddyd 3 года назад +2

    You’re back

  • @shadow177a17
    @shadow177a17 3 года назад +9

    The battle with Mace Windu Vs. Darth Caedus was a interesting one. It was interesting to see how Mace Windu would stack up against the likes of Darth Caedus in a fight. Boy, I was extremely surprised by this video and the outcome that came out of it. Though I’m glad Darth Caedus was declared the victory at the end. So I can also say I like the format you used in this video. Keep up the amazing work you been doing on these videos. May the Force be with you.

  • @coomingnotgoing904
    @coomingnotgoing904 3 года назад +1

    Ayy new versus series hype!

  • @morlath4767
    @morlath4767 3 года назад +10

    Random Thought: That painting picture of Caedus right at the start of the video looks a little like Evan. Something you want to tell us, Master Nova?
    Great video that's at your top quality level like always. I also want to praise you for pointing out the difference between being able to handle pain and understanding pain to push through it.
    Also, and I know this is a bit of a strange thing to say, but I love the fact you're still throwing out the "fucking" every so often. You use it in the perfect emphasis usage that really gets across the nuts-ity of what you're describing.
    Oness with the Force - I think there are two versions. The Selfless Light Side and the Selfish Dark Side version. Shown by Luke and Sidious respectively. One is about giving themselves to the Light Side, the other is about absolute control.
    Verdict - Can't really argue with the points raised.

  • @Starwarsdude8221991
    @Starwarsdude8221991 3 года назад +2

    Almost two hours of Star Wars on fight theories with Mace Windu oh this is gonna be good

  • @InSanic13
    @InSanic13 3 года назад +1

    Oooh, I like the sound of the next matchup.

  • @waiserwal2045
    @waiserwal2045 3 года назад +6

    Fantastic video man even though i disagree with the final verdict.
    How about Exar Kun vs. Revan as a matchup?
    And is the Sith master ranking still to come?
    Greetings from Germany and thank you for this great video

  • @ozzysworld9855
    @ozzysworld9855 3 года назад

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS!
    New video!
    So excited to watch this
    By the way you have great videos.
    I'm also betting that the match after Anakin vs Jaina will be Obi Wan Kenobi vs Mara Jade Skywalker.

  • @turanno6424
    @turanno6424 3 года назад +2

    Enfin !!! Finally it's here !!! Thank you EvanNova95 !!! Je suis français et j'adore ce que tu fais :)

    • @EvanNova95
      @EvanNova95  3 года назад

      Toujours heureux d'apporter un peu de lumière dans votre journée. (My apologies if I messed that up. Had to use software for some of those word.)

    • @turanno6424
      @turanno6424 3 года назад

      @@EvanNova95 Don't worry. Your French is impeccable ;)

  • @yugioht42
    @yugioht42 3 года назад +8

    the loop effect would actually help mace in the final moments as he would feed off the lighting or whatever Jacen would throw. leaving Jacen exhausted with nothing left. you know it could happen and he has done it before like that.

    • @kirtmanwaring3629
      @kirtmanwaring3629 2 года назад

      Sure, if Caedus was relying on his Sith lightning like Palpie. I don’t think Caedus was relying on the dark side as deeply as Sidious though, he was a much more jack of all trades kind of fighter who would have been more than capable of using lots of other smaller scale force powers together that weren’t so … pure Sith.

    • @goroakechi6126
      @goroakechi6126 Год назад +2

      @@kirtmanwaring3629
      I think that’s the biggest advantage Caedus has. Windu will be going in expecting a Dooku or Sidious, someone who specializes entirely in one fighting style and puts everything into it.
      Caedus doesn’t do that.
      Caedus is not ‘the best’ at anything. But he is ‘one of the best’ at so damn much that the only people who aren’t gonna get destroyed by his sheer talent are the demigods and gods of the force, those being Luke, Krayt, Abeloth and the Ones.

    • @kirtmanwaring3629
      @kirtmanwaring3629 Год назад

      @@goroakechi6126 Which ironically makes him the best at that one thing lol. The other thing people forget is he wasn’t at his ceiling when he died, probably not even close. Dude could give Grand Master Luke the fight of his life way before his prime in Force powers or bladework, imagine a 40 year old Caedus who might even win that fight.

  • @dimond360_
    @dimond360_ 3 года назад +12

    Okay so I’ve just finished this matchup and I have to complement your immense talent at bringing these matchups to life it was truly a cinematic experience. Now I understand that there is a Q&A for this video so I will provide my questions here.
    In the physical attributes part you make it very known that Caedus’s missing hand matters little due to his great power. Do you feel this specifically about Caedus or could this be said about other hand missing characters such as Darth Traya and Wolf Sazen?
    What was the decision for these two specific characters why not Mace Windu Vs Kyle Katarn or Exar Kun or Yoda vs Darth Caedus?
    I’ve noticed that only one matchup this season has not used an NJO character (Grevious Vs Zannah) was there meant to be a specific NJO theme this season?

    • @DropkickNation
      @DropkickNation 3 года назад

      Yoda vs. Caedus is a missmatch.

    • @ssukhdeepkaur1783
      @ssukhdeepkaur1783 3 года назад

      @Emperor Vowrawnhe wouldn't stomp him but would defeat him

  • @halo3gamefuel
    @halo3gamefuel 3 года назад

    Where has this channel been all my life.

  • @DarthBPF
    @DarthBPF 3 года назад +1

    Great video and i like this new format although the old one was very good too.

  • @williamhenning4700
    @williamhenning4700 3 года назад

    Solid vid. Liked the new format, think you should keep going in the same vein.

  • @darthcaedus5124
    @darthcaedus5124 3 года назад

    Great video!

  • @arturtourinho6449
    @arturtourinho6449 3 года назад

    I like it. Please continue

  • @theopportuneson699
    @theopportuneson699 2 года назад +2

    Absolutely loved this video! It’s been a while since I’ve engaged with _Star Wars_ in general, but I decided to check out my favorite VS channels out of nostalgia and found your best video yet.
    I’m late for the Q&A, but I don’t have any questions. You were as thorough as possible, and I agree completely with the analysis. Mace Windu should be the superior swordsman, but it would be more about nuance in technique than due to the speed, strength, deftness, and flexibility of Caedus’ bladework.
    Caedus is of course the superior Force wielder. But most importantly, he is one that brings the might of his power to bear in duels between those who rival him, unlike Darth Vader, who tended to rely purely on swordplay if he couldn’t outright dominate his opponent.
    _Legacy of the Force_ was in my opinion one of the weakest installments of the _Star Wars_ franchise pre-Disney. But the abysmal Disney Trilogy has appraised the value of LOTF and FOTJ somewhat in my opinion. And the vs video also helped raise my respect for Darth Caedus further, as I’m sure your Jaina Solo video will do for my thoughts on her.
    Awesome work!

  • @bombshell782
    @bombshell782 3 года назад

    A fine addition to my likes collection! Great work and welcome back Evan! Also Jaina is gonna wreck Anakin, feel like Vader vs Jaina is far more balanced but I look forward to seeing your next video!
    Also as a side note could I suggest a match between Shado Vao vs Ventress?? Or Shak Ti vs Malgus??

  • @MastaKilla63
    @MastaKilla63 3 года назад +1

    A very long analysis of their capabilities indeed! I'm happy with it anyway so it was definitely worth watching.

  • @benjaminjones2185
    @benjaminjones2185 2 года назад +1

    I recently re-watched the clone wars micro series as well as went through the Legends martial arts material, and I think that when Mace went to using physical strikes, he was using the Broken-Gate martial arts form enhanced by "Shatterpoint".

  • @justsomeguywhokeepsgetting4885
    @justsomeguywhokeepsgetting4885 3 года назад +1

    Dude ur a super good narrator

  • @philharrison6394
    @philharrison6394 2 года назад +1

    Love these match ups!!!! I'd love to see Ben Skywalker matched up against a few characters. Darth Maul, or Dooku, Ventress, Aura Sing, ROTJ era Luke or even ROTS Obi-Wan and Anakin. The last two might be a push, but he held his own against multiple Sith and even Abeloth, so I reckon he would be an interesting one to look at...

  • @alexpaul4144
    @alexpaul4144 3 года назад +4

    Luke wasn’t willing to kill him as he would fall, so more like he could hold his own with a handicapped Luke...

    • @darylsdesigns6679
      @darylsdesigns6679 3 года назад

      Still, going toe to toe with arguably the second most powerful Force wielder in history is not something to be taken lightly

    • @ssukhdeepkaur1783
      @ssukhdeepkaur1783 3 года назад +2

      He was literally bloodlusted he only stops at the end

  • @aarondemiri486
    @aarondemiri486 3 года назад

    Now I'm gonna listen to once upon a December
    Ah teaching me Star Wars power scaling and Disney tunes what a great channel

    • @yrooxrksvi7142
      @yrooxrksvi7142 3 года назад

      Anastasia was made by Don Bluth under Fox......oh wait, you're right lol

  • @vt31008
    @vt31008 3 года назад

    The man The myth The legend of Star Wars has returned

  • @xRadinox
    @xRadinox 3 года назад

    An amazing Match!!! 👏👏👏

  • @timothyeckard5182
    @timothyeckard5182 3 года назад +8

    I kind of saw this outcome coming. I couldn't see mace beating caedus. Personally, the opponent I would have chosen for darth caedus would have actually been his other contemporary during this time period, the one who considered him a pretender. Darth Krayt.

    • @mc_rysiek5277
      @mc_rysiek5277 3 года назад +1

      Oh yes. This is a fight I would love to see.

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 3 года назад

      @Emperor Vowrawn Not Reborn Krayt, surely? That's the one people refer to when they cite him in Verses matches.

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 3 года назад +1

      @Emperor Vowrawn But Darth Wyyrlock III defeated an ancient Sith in Darth Andeddu, if I recall. So he's obviously really high up there. And yeah, Krayt didn't stomp him, but he defeated him pretty decisively.

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 3 года назад +1

      @Emperor Vowrawn Caedus was around Kyle's level and did NOT low difficulty defeat him. He was completely matched by him in combat and only won by using his environment. Mind you, that's important as well in a fight, but in terms of actual ability; the fight was anyone's game. Against Luke, he was pretty much going to get killed. No question Caedus is among the strongest Sith in history, prolly only a bit below Sidious or Tenebrae; but he wasn't at their level yet. I think he's actually a relative equal to Reborn Krayt, personally. Around the level of Kyp and Jaina; around the level of a NJO High Jedi Council Member.
      But yes, Krayt was talking too much shit about a Sith that would obliterate him if they had met during the Second Galactic Civil War.

    • @kirtmanwaring3629
      @kirtmanwaring3629 2 года назад

      @@stephenjenkins7971 Yeah I’m still salty they didn’t give Caedus more time to get closer to his potential in LOTF. Even spreading the story out over 5 years would have let him mature and refine his force skills. Krayt was right to dismiss Caedus but only because TOR wouldn't give him the time to really come into his own.

  • @Breakdowns04
    @Breakdowns04 2 года назад +2

    Shatterpoint is the ultimate form of precognition. What would be really interesting to see would be Mace Windu versus Darth Krayt. Both Masters of that ability, both having taken it to its nth degree, though Krayt more so than Windu.

  • @CerberusRhyno
    @CerberusRhyno 3 года назад

    Continue with the format. I do like the details you brings. Though Evan...thanks to you giving the kaedus face now i'll have to sleep with either an E-11 or a lightsaber.

  • @toddhardoin3370
    @toddhardoin3370 3 года назад

    I'd be interested in seeing a Mace Windu and Kip Duran VS video. I think that would be an interesting battle.

  • @ryanyundt2422
    @ryanyundt2422 3 года назад

    He has returned

  • @poppasquat8299
    @poppasquat8299 3 года назад

    Awesome seeing Jacen getting some attention!

  • @corpsedesecrator2612
    @corpsedesecrator2612 3 года назад +3

    Hell yeah good to see new Vs content!! I’m going to call Darth Caedus simply cause he could contend with Grandmaster Luke Skywalker and would’ve killed Jaina if not for Luke’s intervention as well as being a scholar of both Light and Dark side of the force making it not a typical Sith that Mace Windu be use to dealing with whom Windu simply could be able to dispatch most Dark Side users with Vaapad as well as Shatterpoint though I don’t know if it’ll be as effective on Caedus and he does have sufficient knowledge though not absolute mastery on all 7 lightsaber forms as most NJO Jedi do. Anyways going to sit back n enjoy!!
    Hope to see more I’d like to see
    Yoda vs Emperor Vitiate
    Kyle Katarn vs Exar Kun
    Nomi Sunrider vs Kreia/Darth Traya
    Kyp Durron vs Galen Marek
    Satele Shan vs Obi Wan Kenobi (during and after Order 66)
    Lumiya vs Darth Wyyrlok III
    Darth Bane vs Kol Skywalker

  • @darthchingaso3613
    @darthchingaso3613 3 года назад

    great video