@@AKumar-co7oe neo lib talking point : only job of government is to protect private property .... And settle disputes..... Lol....... Good if u r born in rich family... 70-80% population ke pach 3-4 room ka Ghar , 4-5 lakh bank balance.... choti si private property. Basically above statement : government only job is to protect d rich who have 20-30 cr cash/ property and above .
@@jeshminhaxarika5479 Feel free to try state led development aka license raj - we tried it for for 30 years and while it was not all bad and we built some capacities, we would still not wish it on our worst enemies - i.e. YOU. To be honest Pakistan's problem is toxic islamism, feudalism and an elite culture of lying and taking shortcuts instead of telling the truth and committing to nation building - no policy, neolib or commie - will ever work for you guys until that core is broken. Add to that your confrontation with india that means every country/company which wants to invest also has to think whether they want to bet on the pakistani horse or the indian one - investors in bangladesh don't even think about that question. But Saab would never put up a plant in Pakistan if it ever wants to sell anything to India again.
@@jeshminhaxarika5479 BTW, I also support a hybrid model in which the private sector is given significant freedom but in which the government still builds homes for the underprivileged - provides education healthcare, basic ration like rice and dal etc and subsidizes inputs that have positive externalities like transportation and renewable energy and penalizes those that have negative externalities like fossil fuels and plastic waste. Thankfully Indian economists are smart enough to do all this on my behalf.
@@jeshminhaxarika5479 He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
But suddenly starts saying crap in the last 1/3rd in favor of bloated government organizations, sounds like a classic indian leftist. Until and unless you have capitalist organization style incentive structures in a PSU - you will not see efficiencies emerge in the employees. Once the first guy gets fired from PIA for incompetence then you will see them at top performance in their next railways appointment
Mr.Rehman seems to have perfected the art of teaching while making the topic immensely interesting. Doesnt appear patronizing like our typical Pakistani professors.hes like a friendly genius friend you have in clg who knows everything and wants you to learn more than you yourself might want to.
He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
@@bharatkapoor4062 yeah, so that basically proves his point that efficiency is not in any way related to the ownership of production. As inefficiencies and efficiencies both exist in public as well as the private sector, the productivity curve is dependent on the technology and management of a firm. Not so difficult of a concept to grasp
@@syedmuhammadabdullah1431 no government can not fire it's employees in private competition is cut throat u have to perform in government chalta hai attitude by babus but in private time is money
How come all fools are celebrated in Pakistan. He is a socialist in blood. His all thing was just nit picking every word and not understanding the context and if he teaches u economics than god bless Pakistan. Learn from him.
When you invite a guest like Dr Taimur Rahman, you should allow them to speak and not interfere too much. You can challenge them once they're done speaking.
At 3 instances where guest was about to explain some points but it was left because host interrupted him: 1. Point where he was explaining about difference between profit vs output vs growth maximization, he was going to explain further that in some industries like electricity, education, trackters, steel factories etc society needs to prefer output maximization because that will lead to growth maximization in long term but since market follows the principle of profit maximization and profit max doesn't coincide with output max therefore market mechanism will fail there. That was his main point against leaving the economy to market mechanism. 2. Point where they were arguing over whether one has right to frame the question of tax expenditure as "where was my money used?", Guest's basic point was that an individual has right to know where tax was spend not because it is their money but because government should be transparent to public. Host was saying that an individual has right to know because it was their money. Guest's point was lost due to continuous interruption. 3. At last he was going to explain how can a bankrupt state manage to invest in infrastructure development in those industries where output maximization is needed instead of profit maximization but again here he was interrupted. Last point I want to add is that Muzamil has very romanticized idea of post liberalization India. If he is reading this comment he should seriously read the P Sainath's and and several other Indian political economist works. P Sainath runs an online journalistic website called Peoples Archive of Rural India (PARI)
Well point 3 he was not actually doing it. In point 2 because we are democratic country i as an infividual have a right to elect my representitives who use my fund more efficiently and if people sharing my idea are miniority it wont happen and people having same thought process as me are majority it would happen. And its not first of all speech. Niether an interview where you ask question and wait for the answer to end its a pod cast where disscussion is happening questions come out of the answers. What you call interruption is actually making a point and clearly stating the conflict in your mind. And of course the only example that is near to us and emerged is india after taking part from socialist ideas.
Actually he never discussed the equation where output maximization is needed . . Infact muzzamil did try to bring in the the demand factor and competition impact in the output maximization but Dr taimur was more into the idea of nullifying profile max . . So the point remained unclear and the argument was lost on the shuffle
@@alihaider5190 He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
The guest (Taimur Rahman) recently made a podcast on Profit Maximization vs. Output Maximization if you want to learn more about this topic. It is fascinating.
Aoa Muzamil! I have been following your podcast for a long time now. For this particular podcast, I feel it could have been so much more interesting if only you would have let Dr. Taimur speak more. I have repeatedly noticed how you interrupt your guests, and it was particularly pronounced in this session when Dr. Sahab was trying to make a point. As an avid listener of your podcast I’d appreciate if you work on your listening skills and respect the guest because clearly they have been invited to your show for their expertise. P.S may be you were having a bad day.
I first heard about Taimur Rehman back in 2010, when he made an appearance on FM 91. Still the same amazing guy. I just want to know what's his secret for staying happy all the time. He always has a smile on face. So soft spoken. Mashallah.
Dear Muzamil Bhai, Greetings from Mumbai. Good to see Dr Taimur Rehman on the podcast , who gave diff perspective to issues of Pakistan. Dr Taimur Rehman comes out as a very learned, articulate and grounded person. His videos on YT exhibits multi-facet personality as an Economist, teacher, musician , lucid speaker and balanced interviewer. Pvt sector has sole aim of maximising profits, which runs against basic need of Public services like primary & secondary health & education, Infra , environment etc. Developing economies like Pakistan need State interventions in critical sectors like Health, Education,Water , Power , Communication, Infra like Railways , Universal Banking . Once society reaches a critical mass , pvt sector can expand its reach further. Pvt sector needs to be encouraged in other areas , which demands technology, innovation etc. His Socialist ideas surely adds to the public discourse in Pakistan on Political Economics.
Wikipedia finally have something to say about Taimur. These kinds of debates are healthy for youth rather than our political debates on news channels of pakistan.
Really good to know you've invited someone from Liberal Arts background... Pakistanis are too much obsessed with Science, Technology and Medicine. We want more people from liberal arts, social sciences, management sciences these fields teaches broad knowledge of how world and society works.
He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
@@bharatkapoor4062 BTW, neoliberal se 30-40 countries ka fayeda hua hai reflecting more than 50% of world population - India/China, South east Asia and Eastern Europe have all benefited a lot.
@@AKumar-co7oe hahahaha china is not Neo liberal Chinese opened there economy but they make there home companies very strong first and don't forget Chinese govt is having share in private companies of china
Muzammil, you framed it incorrectly "I have the right to know where my money is spent." Dr. Taimur was correct here "I, as a public individual, have the right to know where public money is spent."
As a pakistani I feel Good to see such a platform where economic issues are discussed which ideally should have been discussed in our parliament. Let's hope for the best. Keep doing good work.
Need part 2 of this.. also 1st time ever I felt Muzamil didn’t let guest to finish his comments and brought his counter questions which maybe formulated while the guest was speaking…
Muzzammil, while I like your podcasts and I appreciate how you question your guest, this is where Dr. Taimur ate you. His arguments were so scholarly and unbiased while you kept on pushing on neo liberal policies and half baked knowledge on economics. Hope this is a lesson to you that when you bring in such few, great, intellectually capable personalities you give them a due respect and the ear to hear the other side.
There was no need to get so opinionated & emotional over PIA. The guest must be completely listened and their opinion should be respected. This is what sets apart a podcast from a regular TV talk show. Overall it was an engaging, thoughtful talk.
this entire podcast was very funny it looks like muzammil is having flashbacks to his Olevel economics ki tuition with a frustrated tutor trying to jam in the concepts 10 days before his finals hahahah
Muzammil larna hi shuru ho gaya hy end mein.... bhai jis guest ko bulaya hy, usey bolny to do.... agar khud hi sb bolna hy, to apna aik alag lecture record kr k laga do... even if you disagree from the opinion of the guest, just let them state what they want to state..... why so much arguing to prove him wrong???
This was an amazing podcast to comprehend the core problems haunting Pakistan's economy. I do understand that such a podcast is meant to have the idea understood by people from all spheres of life, and Muzzamil did a good job at asking questions which were basic and simple yet demanded depth from Dr. Rehman. However, I think the questions and the structure could be further refined. This podcast also draws clear lines between knowledge acquired through 'infotainment' and that acquired through years and years of research. Love the way Mr. Rehman, makes sure that he has delivered his point, for a great presenter is never satisfied in moving to the next topics before finishing the previous. Thank you for bringing such an intellectual and an accomplished academic to the show. Dr. Rehman is one of those people you wish in life to be one like. The podcast was very helpful!
Dr taimur is very right in saying that Pakistan requires self reliance rather than opening doors to free international market . . One of the reasons that it will destroy chances of any budding local industry
Ahhh man the more i see Dr Taimur, the more i fall in love with the articulation of his ideas. I may not agree with a few things he has to say but it sure is fascinating to see him speak. This was lovely podcast.. 2 thumbs up to you too Muzamil. These 2 hours passed in an instant. It was so interesting !!!!
I just watched 3 podcasts in a row and i know more about Pakistan now then ever before in my 21years that ive lived 😂 And now im a Fan of you. From my heart i wish tha you continue through this magnificent Journey so that the people of Pakistan awake from "zaroori kam wali neend" and do something about their country
Phew! So it took me two days of listening to complete this episode. Very honestly, I was attracted to this video because of Dr Taimoor, and although I knew you early as the podcast guy doing very good job and according to some you are a Babar Azam of podcasts, I didn’t know you have got a lot of knowledge to have one on one discussion with Dr Taimoor on such topics and to ask very tough questions at some times. This was impressive from your part I must say, and I’m thinking to listen to you also on regular basis from now onwards.
For God sake... let the guest speak? why have you invited him if you don't want to listen to him? why turn it into a debate to prove him wrong... just let him say his thoughts... please change your behavior.. this is no way to treat guests
If u can speak slowly & through normal rhythm. It would be better for us to understand easily. Please dont be showy , over with ur behaviour and pompous.
Muzammil took it too far...Dr Sahab and Muzammil were saying the same thing but I could smell the generation gap...Now the TATAs have taken over Air India and they are exactly following both what Dr Taimur said and what Muzammil is saying. Purchase new planes and do away with excess staff through collective bargaining as Dr Sahab said...
Taimur is one of those traditional, academic economists (Atif Mian included) who operate in the idealistic world. Please invite Uzair Younis to your show and adopt this line of questioning (giving him ample time to answer). I'm sure he will make more pragmatic sense than Taimur. E.g. he started arguing on the nuance of public vs individual (a useless "politically correctness" debate). Also, Air India adopted the policy of laying off employees after Tata acquired it.
He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
Marxists are first of all Materialists, there is no room for idealism in the Marxist Scientific interpretation of the economics, capital accumulation, classes, and society in general.Neo-liberals are the idealist of highest order,speculative economy is cornerstone of idealism in economy, speculating in abstraction in the chaos of capitalist mode of production is what they do best!!!
@@mosthonestcommentor I'm not well-versed in the nuances of those terminologies but I can tell you something simple. In a perfect world: 1) If you listen to the poor how an economy should be run, the economy will end up where the most successful poor person is. 2) If you listen to the rich how an economy should be run, the economy will end up where the most successful rich person is.
Commenting straight after watching the Podcast, I haven't seen the comments to this episode but I'll just give my two cents. I am not a leftist and haven't always agreed with Dr. Taimur even mocked him on twitter as well but here I feel that any talk or discussion should not come to a point where it exude hidden acrimony. Taimur is a subject specialist and in the start you did ask him to explain political economy and that's what he did. He spoke about economy, energy, PEs and infrastructure. Your counter questions sounded inane, out of depth and more like a drawing room banter than an educated discussion. You're love, hope you won't mind the criticism 🙂. I just believe that when you invite a guest allow him to express and explain himself, complete his points, arguments and sentences and the host should encourage him to speak more, the questions should be probing, informed and we'll researched instead of formed through personal opinions and experiences.
Dr taimur is very articulate and rational in presenting his arguments and is a source of great learning. . However it the first time I have seen him addressing counter narrative with deeper dive 55:30 . . This is a very interesting podcast since muzzamil is a very strong proponent/analyst of value creation and free market economy
He doesnt even know GDP includes government spending lol he also dodge the question about India moving to free market and getting all the success post 1991
He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
@@bharatkapoor4062 when he gave the example of efficient army institution it was actually very convincing. . . But he is proposing an idealistic model that needs refinement. . . But I partially agree with Dr taimur on state intervention to some extent in large scare industries . . . Where corporate can exploit common citizenz and politics
India learnt its hard lessons with Enron Project and that was the first and the last with the sovereign guarantees. Pakistan has to learn from other's experience rather than "The Pakistan Experience".
This podcast is the only Muzammil's podcast which have long debate... at one point they were literally fighting 😂😂 otherwise in other shows its a light, healthy talk but here its all about disagreeing with each other. This happens when you interview an economist lol no one can defeat them my macroeconomics professor is next level thing, you just can't argue anything with her🤣
Regarding output maximization muzzamil was giving very important concern keeping the competition and demand in the equation. . I couldn't get get that part clear . . Taimur Sahab discussed his point but this point got lost in the shuffle
مزمل نے آج ایک ARY اینکر کی طرح تصویر کی ایک روخ پیش کرنے کی کوشش کی، اور اس کا اندازہ اس بات سے لگیا جا سکتا ہے کہ مزمل نے پروفیسر صاحب کو بات مکمل کرنے کا موقعہ بھی نہیں دیا، بس سوالوں پر سوال اٹھائے جا رہا تھا اور جب پروفیسر صاحب نے جواب دینے کی کوششیں کی تو بیچھ میں ARy والوں کی طرح ٹپکتا تھا اور جواب کا ستیاناس کر دیتا تھا ۔۔۔آج مجھے ایسا لگا جیسے کہ مزمل نے اپنے آپ کو منوانے کی کوشش کی ہے نہ کہ کچھ سیکھنے کی۔۔۔۔۔ اگر آپ نے quality کو بڑھانی ہے تو آپ کو اپنے ان غلطیوں پر عور کرنا ہو گا ۔۔۔۔۔ اس طرح کے ڑیبیٹ میں لوگ emotions کو کنٹرول کرتے ہیں جیسا کہ پروفیسر صاحب نے کیا آپ کو ان سے سیکنا چاہیے اور میں امید کرتا ہوں کہ آپ نے محسوس بھی کیا ہو گا کہ عالم لوگ آپ کی طرح اپنے نظریات کو ٹھونسے نہیں بلکہ ایک respectful way کے ساتھ پیش کرتے ہیں آپ اس سے agree کر سکتے ہیں اور disagree بھی کر سکتے ہیں جس طرح کہ پروفیسر صاحب نے کیا ۔۔۔۔۔۔
Wow, Dr. Taimur Rahman has shared such great ideas and options for growth and progress, Muzamil bhai; you really need to get out of this kind of capitalism and materialistic thinking. There is always a solution with socialism if the government is willing to go for it. I agree with Dr. Taimur Rahman. great discussion overall.
Muzzamil was right about the PIA layoff thing.... You first have to get rid of the dead load to turn around the system, get efficient and then you can add more capital to expand it in future... Other wise with dead load new capital will also get used without giving the ROI.... Similar situation happened with Air India after it was taken over by TATA... They introduced voluntary retirement VRS FOR 4500 EMPLOYES OF 12500+ OUT OF WHICH 1500 ACCEPTED IT IN JULY . in coming months thousands more will be accepting it as well.... By privatisation you can get rid of naukri politics .. if plans go well it will surely create more employment and if it doesn't work out then all the 12500+ won't be begging for jobs at same time ... Less 4500 people would really soften the impact for those 8000 employees .
Taking PIA as example is wrong. Aviation is considered toughest sector to turn profit (razor thin margins)even in heigh income countries. Pakistan with 22 cr population and per capita of 1600 US dollars, is gargantuan task. Sure ....for only profit shake.....if flight are only deployed in 5-6 profitable route having only 7-8 destination .. sure a profitable PIA , but wats d point ?? In India Indigo airlines have 50-60 % market share , it's a cheap airlines has zero facility , no bussiness class , no lounge , forget first class, no complementary meals ..... Its like city local bus but cheap ticket. Plus indigo run international routes only to popular middle East destination for migrant labor to travel ( all economy configuration) Air India has been sold too TATA.... Let see, time will tell?? running a full service airline with flight to costly routes like Paris , Tokyo , newyork etc ( competing with 5 star airlines like British airways , Lufthansa , klm ,pan amm etc ) in price sensitive market ( per capita is 2800 USD ). It would be imposible...in my opinion... 90 plus years old ratan Tata taking all d bad decisions.
It was a chicken and the egg argument and both had 2 different school of thoughts. . . A hybrid model is required to keep the local industry bidding and large scale industry being productive. . . Dr taimur also discussed it in his own videos in detail . . .
This was amazing podcast. Would appreciate if you do your upcoming podcast on dams and hydropower, and specially discuss the controversial Kala Bagh Dam.
Dr Taimur Rehman simply nailed it with a simple line after 30 min of argument: Apke paas F16 khareedne ke paise hain na? Hope Muzammil will understand the root of the problem
A very good podcast, treat to the brain! Dr Rehman is great at communication and supporting his ideas. I loved the conversation between an economist and a business student... Muzamil bhai capitalism is based on numbers - life is not. I agree to Rehman's hybrid approach. I think 'Technology' provides solutions to a lot of Pakistan's problems!! This will require 2 things "neeat" (don't equate it with the 'will' in english) and "sabr" (yes, both words are taken from religious context, will make sense if thought upon without prejudices). The people of Pakistan need to have those two factors more than expecting from the government. Happy new year!
Listening Dr sb is fabulous and always enlightening. His views are very much with clarity and he has practical flavour for system change by his own way. You can brand him left leaning but I think what all he says is universal and verily related to this part of the land. His views are a kind of paradigm shift and it is only viable if whole part of the land focused to change. Now a days his school of theory is being applied in most of the countries successfully and we can also do within Pakistan. His Political views are little rigid and skewed what may be a difficult proposition because of the political school of thought in Pakistan. Let's hope he continued his effort to find out a good leadership but not like Bhutto and his legacy.
I also think it's more of a discipline problem than work force. However, there are certain examples where there is unnecessary work force but instead of firing them, they can be moved to other places based on their skills and education. For example, in a government university, there is a person who cleans the whiteboard, then there is a person who is responsible for bringing the equipment (projector, etc.), then there is a person who writes the attendance. All of this can be automated and the work force can be used in other areas. To get stipend from government departments like benevolent fund, you have to attest each document from the university and etc. You can automate that process and use the extra work force in other areas.
Hmm Thoroughly enjoyed the healthy debate and both sides being vehemently defended with respect The one thing that both seemed to agree on during the heated part of the conversation was KE as a bad example of privatization. Without taking sides in the debate, we need to stop demonizing KE. Karachi's electrical situation is far better since the privatization, despite the challenges. It has been one of the better success stories of efficiency...the common sentiment from the average Karachiite may not be very positive, but looking at it objectively, the city has been better off since the privatization. The electricity situation is better than Lahore or Multan (barring high loss areas). The customer focus is far better Take for example, other utilities of the city and the shape they are in. For instance, KWSB, KMC etc...the city's transport and road infrastructure. As someone who has spent most of his life here, trust me, Karachi is far better off with KE privatized
Muzammil jani, I'm a little disappointed. Your line of questioning is brilliant, but you need to let the guest complete his argument before barging in. A good podcast nevertheless.
And being as pragmatic as you are, I'm surprised that you support Imran Khan, who indulges the public in idealistic conspiracies. I am an ex-PTI supporter, but his non-practical, confrontational brand of politics AFTER assuming power made me a disbeliever. During the same time, compare our numbers with Bangladesh's and suddenly, the COVID argument goes down the drain.
Wow ... what a podcast, loved it immensely. So much respect for both individuals ...... Despite my differences with Dr Taimoor. I have loved this podcast listening to him as an expert on Political economy for the first time instead of a SOCIALIST Purely. Thanks to the host. Brilliant answer to the last question by Dr. Taimoor, loved its simplicity.
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For all those who think there should be Part 2 comment. Get Dr taimur Rehman again on the pod.
Get him with an intelligent neolib like Uzair Younus
@@AKumar-co7oe neo lib talking point : only job of government is to protect private property .... And settle disputes.....
Lol....... Good if u r born in rich family... 70-80% population ke pach 3-4 room ka Ghar , 4-5 lakh bank balance.... choti si private property.
Basically above statement : government only job is to protect d rich who have 20-30 cr cash/ property and above .
@@jeshminhaxarika5479 Feel free to try state led development aka license raj - we tried it for for 30 years and while it was not all bad and we built some capacities, we would still not wish it on our worst enemies - i.e. YOU.
To be honest Pakistan's problem is toxic islamism, feudalism and an elite culture of lying and taking shortcuts instead of telling the truth and committing to nation building - no policy, neolib or commie - will ever work for you guys until that core is broken. Add to that your confrontation with india that means every country/company which wants to invest also has to think whether they want to bet on the pakistani horse or the indian one - investors in bangladesh don't even think about that question. But Saab would never put up a plant in Pakistan if it ever wants to sell anything to India again.
@@jeshminhaxarika5479 BTW, I also support a hybrid model in which the private sector is given significant freedom but in which the government still builds homes for the underprivileged - provides education healthcare, basic ration like rice and dal etc and subsidizes inputs that have positive externalities like transportation and renewable energy and penalizes those that have negative externalities like fossil fuels and plastic waste.
Thankfully Indian economists are smart enough to do all this on my behalf.
@@jeshminhaxarika5479 He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
That's the first economist I've heard who can talk for hours without diving into the current political landscape. And I mean this in a good way.
lots of love from India. 🇮🇳❤❤.... he is truly a gem..... so articulate....
But suddenly starts saying crap in the last 1/3rd in favor of bloated government organizations, sounds like a classic indian leftist. Until and unless you have capitalist organization style incentive structures in a PSU - you will not see efficiencies emerge in the employees. Once the first guy gets fired from PIA for incompetence then you will see them at top performance in their next railways appointment
Mr.Rehman seems to have perfected the art of teaching while making the topic immensely interesting. Doesnt appear patronizing like our typical Pakistani professors.hes like a friendly genius friend you have in clg who knows everything and wants you to learn more than you yourself might want to.
He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
Acha, aisi baat hai?
@@bharatkapoor4062 yeah, so that basically proves his point that efficiency is not in any way related to the ownership of production. As inefficiencies and efficiencies both exist in public as well as the private sector, the productivity curve is dependent on the technology and management of a firm. Not so difficult of a concept to grasp
@@syedmuhammadabdullah1431 no government can not fire it's employees in private competition is cut throat u have to perform in government chalta hai attitude by babus but in private time is money
How come all fools are celebrated in Pakistan.
He is a socialist in blood. His all thing was just nit picking every word and not understanding the context and if he teaches u economics than god bless Pakistan. Learn from him.
When you invite a guest like Dr Taimur Rahman, you should allow them to speak and not interfere too much. You can challenge them once they're done speaking.
really irritating watching him repeatedly interrupt Dr. Taimur and not letting him complete his talk
That's why Junaid Akram is best in the category 💯
True
you cant argue with a teacher who handles so many questions every day and also have a political party
yehi soch humein peechay khenchti hay
Why can't?
At 3 instances where guest was about to explain some points but it was left because host interrupted him:
1. Point where he was explaining about difference between profit vs output vs growth maximization, he was going to explain further that in some industries like electricity, education, trackters, steel factories etc society needs to prefer output maximization because that will lead to growth maximization in long term but since market follows the principle of profit maximization and profit max doesn't coincide with output max therefore market mechanism will fail there. That was his main point against leaving the economy to market mechanism.
2. Point where they were arguing over whether one has right to frame the question of tax expenditure as "where was my money used?", Guest's basic point was that an individual has right to know where tax was spend not because it is their money but because government should be transparent to public. Host was saying that an individual has right to know because it was their money. Guest's point was lost due to continuous interruption.
3. At last he was going to explain how can a bankrupt state manage to invest in infrastructure development in those industries where output maximization is needed instead of profit maximization but again here he was interrupted.
Last point I want to add is that Muzamil has very romanticized idea of post liberalization India. If he is reading this comment he should seriously read the P Sainath's and and several other Indian political economist works. P Sainath runs an online journalistic website called Peoples Archive of Rural India (PARI)
Well point 3 he was not actually doing it.
In point 2 because we are democratic country i as an infividual have a right to elect my representitives who use my fund more efficiently and if people sharing my idea are miniority it wont happen and people having same thought process as me are majority it would happen.
And its not first of all speech. Niether an interview where you ask question and wait for the answer to end its a pod cast where disscussion is happening questions come out of the answers. What you call interruption is actually making a point and clearly stating the conflict in your mind. And of course the only example that is near to us and emerged is india after taking part from socialist ideas.
Actually he never discussed the equation where output maximization is needed . . Infact muzzamil did try to bring in the the demand factor and competition impact in the output maximization but Dr taimur was more into the idea of nullifying profile max . . So the point remained unclear and the argument was lost on the shuffle
@@alihaider5190 He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
The guest (Taimur Rahman) recently made a podcast on Profit Maximization vs. Output Maximization if you want to learn more about this topic. It is fascinating.
@@shariq7 he making argument Neo liberal failed but where is communist are happy? Itnfailed.too
Aoa Muzamil! I have been following your podcast for a long time now. For this particular podcast, I feel it could have been so much more interesting if only you would have let Dr. Taimur speak more. I have repeatedly noticed how you interrupt your guests, and it was particularly pronounced in this session when Dr. Sahab was trying to make a point. As an avid listener of your podcast I’d appreciate if you work on your listening skills and respect the guest because clearly they have been invited to your show for their expertise. P.S may be you were having a bad day.
I first heard about Taimur Rehman back in 2010, when he made an appearance on FM 91. Still the same amazing guy. I just want to know what's his secret for staying happy all the time. He always has a smile on face. So soft spoken. Mashallah.
I first saw him on ravish kumar show ..i was like so much anti socialism
His secret for life is 'laal maal' 🍉🍉
Dear Muzamil Bhai, Greetings from Mumbai. Good to see Dr Taimur Rehman on the podcast , who gave diff perspective to issues of Pakistan.
Dr Taimur Rehman comes out as a very learned, articulate and grounded person. His videos on YT exhibits multi-facet personality as an Economist, teacher, musician , lucid speaker and balanced interviewer.
Pvt sector has sole aim of maximising profits, which runs against basic need of Public services like primary & secondary health & education, Infra , environment etc. Developing economies like Pakistan need State interventions in critical sectors like Health, Education,Water , Power , Communication, Infra like Railways , Universal Banking . Once society reaches a critical mass , pvt sector can expand its reach further. Pvt sector needs to be encouraged in other areas , which demands technology, innovation etc. His Socialist ideas surely adds to the public discourse in Pakistan on Political Economics.
The professor proves why he is a professor 😂.
Cherry on the top: Economics/politics professor 😂
Econ professors se to koi jeet he nhi skta 🤣
@@nycto16 exactly 💯
@@RH-ll1tu 🤓🙌
Wikipedia finally have something to say about Taimur. These kinds of debates are healthy for youth rather than our political debates on news channels of pakistan.
Damn!! Dr. Taimoor is so genius. 🔥
Sorry to say. syed muzammil.
Dr. Taimor is extremely genius . You cant argu with him or counter him and teach him . He is so perfect in his theory
Really good to know you've invited someone from Liberal Arts background... Pakistanis are too much obsessed with Science, Technology and Medicine. We want more people from liberal arts, social sciences, management sciences these fields teaches broad knowledge of how world and society works.
He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
@@bharatkapoor4062 Idk I was just appreciating Muzzamil for inviting him...
@@bharatkapoor4062 BTW, neoliberal se 30-40 countries ka fayeda hua hai reflecting more than 50% of world population - India/China, South east Asia and Eastern Europe have all benefited a lot.
@@AKumar-co7oe hahahaha china is not Neo liberal Chinese opened there economy but they make there home companies very strong first and don't forget Chinese govt is having share in private companies of china
@Left your choice of video is amazing then
Muzammil, you framed it incorrectly "I have the right to know where my money is spent."
Dr. Taimur was correct here "I, as a public individual, have the right to know where public money is spent."
Potayto potaato
OK this means if i'm not a public figure then i don't have any right to know where my money is spent,where the taxes go which i paid ?
As a pakistani I feel Good to see such a platform where economic issues are discussed which ideally should have been discussed in our parliament.
Let's hope for the best. Keep doing good work.
Need part 2 of this.. also 1st time ever I felt Muzamil didn’t let guest to finish his comments and brought his counter questions which maybe formulated while the guest was speaking…
Muzammil is a rude host, he disrespects the guests when they don't say what he wants to hear.
I believe that when you invite someone, then let them speak instead of you speaking
Muzzammil, while I like your podcasts and I appreciate how you question your guest, this is where Dr. Taimur ate you. His arguments were so scholarly and unbiased while you kept on pushing on neo liberal policies and half baked knowledge on economics. Hope this is a lesson to you that when you bring in such few, great, intellectually capable personalities you give them a due respect and the ear to hear the other side.
There was no need to get so opinionated & emotional over PIA. The guest must be completely listened and their opinion should be respected. This is what sets apart a podcast from a regular TV talk show. Overall it was an engaging, thoughtful talk.
this entire podcast was very funny
it looks like muzammil is having flashbacks to his Olevel economics ki tuition with a frustrated tutor trying to jam in the concepts 10 days before his finals hahahah
He is Adam Smith of Riyasat-e-Madina😎
Muzammil larna hi shuru ho gaya hy end mein.... bhai jis guest ko bulaya hy, usey bolny to do.... agar khud hi sb bolna hy, to apna aik alag lecture record kr k laga do... even if you disagree from the opinion of the guest, just let them state what they want to state..... why so much arguing to prove him wrong???
Sir was literally teaching him while using that paper as white board
Every lecture,speech,podcast is a treat & enrichment for the brain
Malnutritioned tha kya brain pehlay?
This was an amazing podcast to comprehend the core problems haunting Pakistan's economy.
I do understand that such a podcast is meant to have the idea understood by people from all spheres of life, and Muzzamil did a good job at asking questions which were basic and simple yet demanded depth from Dr. Rehman. However, I think the questions and the structure could be further refined. This podcast also draws clear lines between knowledge acquired through 'infotainment' and that acquired through years and years of research.
Love the way Mr. Rehman, makes sure that he has delivered his point, for a great presenter is never satisfied in moving to the next topics before finishing the previous.
Thank you for bringing such an intellectual and an accomplished academic to the show. Dr. Rehman is one of those people you wish in life to be one like.
The podcast was very helpful!
Really wanted to hear Dr. Taimur on TBT🤩
Glad that he's finally here ♥️
Dr taimur is very right in saying that Pakistan requires self reliance rather than opening doors to free international market . . One of the reasons that it will destroy chances of any budding local industry
Ok point noted. Will let finance minister know
@@majestiint3537 hahaha 🤣 you are funny
This guy is a gem!
Great Sir!Not a podcast but a learning session.Respect & regards from India!
Ahhh man the more i see Dr Taimur, the more i fall in love with the articulation of his ideas. I may not agree with a few things he has to say but it sure is fascinating to see him speak. This was lovely podcast.. 2 thumbs up to you too Muzamil. These 2 hours passed in an instant. It was so interesting !!!!
Schooled the O level self proclaimed macroeconomist ! 😂
I dont understand who are you referring to
@@wasaymoria9061 Muzamil.
Probably my favorite podcast from Muzammil-- straight to political economy, not bakwas.
Here you come bringing a gem to your podcast 🤩
Ye gems kahan mine hotay Hain Bhai? I needed one
One can listen this lecture over and over again , without getting bored even once. Kia bat hai Murshad ❤️❤️
Easily one of the best informative podcast on this channel.
Very animated discussion. Kudos to Dr.sb for being so kind and gentle. Would love to have more of these types of discussions.
First time seen muzzamil have very tough time 😂😂
💯🤩
Will wait for a second part definitely.
I just watched 3 podcasts in a row and i know more about Pakistan now then ever before in my 21years that ive lived 😂
And now im a Fan of you.
From my heart i wish tha you continue through this magnificent
Journey so that the people of Pakistan awake from "zaroori kam wali neend" and do something about their country
Indian export breakdown :
600 billion :
1. 80-100 billion IT services export ( thz to government investment in education, IIT)
2. 60billion , diamond polishing jwellery export ( thz gujrati bussiness mindset , traditional business scalled for export)
3. 35-40 billion textile export ( thz to cheap labor , government subsidy)
4. 60 billion petroleum products export ( thz to enterprenuership ambani family , private refinery, efficient government owned refinery )
5. 40 billion basmati rice and tea, jute export ( thz geography , poor wage labor )
6. 50-60 billion , pharma export ( thz to investment in education , good government policy, )
7. Chemical export , engineering equipment export etc etc
IT Export Was 178 Billion Dollars, I Guess.
Brilliant podcasts!!! Very informative! Pls call Dr Taimur again. He is a true gem!
بہت بہترین گفتگو رہی۔ سن کر فائدہ ہوا، کئی مغالطے درست ہوئے۔ اس پر مزید بات ہونا چاہیے۔ شکریہ
nahin Janab apka Shukriya
Jeetay Rahein
Please stop interrupting the guest and ask counter questions in a polite way
Amazing podcast!!! So informative!! Would love to see another one with the same guest.
Phew! So it took me two days of listening to complete this episode. Very honestly, I was attracted to this video because of Dr Taimoor, and although I knew you early as the podcast guy doing very good job and according to some you are a Babar Azam of podcasts, I didn’t know you have got a lot of knowledge to have one on one discussion with Dr Taimoor on such topics and to ask very tough questions at some times. This was impressive from your part I must say, and I’m thinking to listen to you also on regular basis from now onwards.
Respect Respect Respect n good wishes for Dr Taimur Rehman....muzzamil needs to learn
This deserves a part 2
For God sake... let the guest speak? why have you invited him if you don't want to listen to him? why turn it into a debate to prove him wrong... just let him say his thoughts... please change your behavior.. this is no way to treat guests
Dr Taimur Rahman... What a brain!
If u can speak slowly & through normal rhythm. It would be better for us to understand easily. Please dont be showy , over with ur behaviour and pompous.
🟥❤️🟥❤️🟥❤️ 🟥I am a proud supporter of mazdoor kisaan party from Sindh
One of the excellent discussions I've ever seen. I like your topics muzamil. Keep on doing such intellectual discussions.
Muzammil took it too far...Dr Sahab and Muzammil were saying the same thing but I could smell the generation gap...Now the TATAs have taken over Air India and they are exactly following both what Dr Taimur said and what Muzammil is saying. Purchase new planes and do away with excess staff through collective bargaining as Dr Sahab said...
it almost felt like the guy had some vendetta against the guest lol
One thing muzamil please give some time to guest to finish their point .
Other wise brilliant podcast
you tried socialism, mixed economy - that didn't work well
options left are - Capitalism & Communism.
time to make transition
Excellent conversation
God has not made all the commodities equal 🙏
Taimur is one of those traditional, academic economists (Atif Mian included) who operate in the idealistic world. Please invite Uzair Younis to your show and adopt this line of questioning (giving him ample time to answer). I'm sure he will make more pragmatic sense than Taimur.
E.g. he started arguing on the nuance of public vs individual (a useless "politically correctness" debate). Also, Air India adopted the policy of laying off employees after Tata acquired it.
He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
Marxists are first of all Materialists, there is no room for idealism in the Marxist Scientific interpretation of the economics, capital accumulation, classes, and society in general.Neo-liberals are the idealist of highest order,speculative economy is cornerstone of idealism in economy, speculating in abstraction in the chaos of capitalist mode of production is what they do best!!!
@@mosthonestcommentor I'm not well-versed in the nuances of those terminologies but I can tell you something simple. In a perfect world:
1) If you listen to the poor how an economy should be run, the economy will end up where the most successful poor person is.
2) If you listen to the rich how an economy should be run, the economy will end up where the most successful rich person is.
Its my dream to become a professor in the field of psychology, marketing and sociology one day.
Thank you for calling this guy 😍💞
Dr. Tamoor is just on the point...Develop the public sector of economy, invest in the public sector industrial infrastructure and make it productive.
best teacher everrr!!!
Commenting straight after watching the Podcast, I haven't seen the comments to this episode but I'll just give my two cents. I am not a leftist and haven't always agreed with Dr. Taimur even mocked him on twitter as well but here I feel that any talk or discussion should not come to a point where it exude hidden acrimony. Taimur is a subject specialist and in the start you did ask him to explain political economy and that's what he did. He spoke about economy, energy, PEs and infrastructure. Your counter questions sounded inane, out of depth and more like a drawing room banter than an educated discussion. You're love, hope you won't mind the criticism 🙂.
I just believe that when you invite a guest allow him to express and explain himself, complete his points, arguments and sentences and the host should encourage him to speak more, the questions should be probing, informed and we'll researched instead of formed through personal opinions and experiences.
Arey bhai itni zada podcasts pehly taimur aur faisal bhai phir muzzamil aur taimur phir muzzmil aur muzzamil phir junaid aur taimur bhai ab muzzamil and taimur. Maza agya
Dr taimur is very articulate and rational in presenting his arguments and is a source of great learning. . However it the first time I have seen him addressing counter narrative with deeper dive 55:30 . . This is a very interesting podcast since muzzamil is a very strong proponent/analyst of value creation and free market economy
He doesnt even know GDP includes government spending lol he also dodge the question about India moving to free market and getting all the success post 1991
@@Random-nx9kv he didn't dodge it lol, listen to the podcast again without your bias
He is making fool of people ek government school ka naam bta kr efficiency ki baat kra h baaki government school ka kya ? Jb ye same point rakhta hai Neo liberal se 5-7 countries ko profit hua aur 150 countries ko losss
@@aghawaleedhasan363 he did not accept that India progressed due to free market economy post 1991. This is a fact not an opinion.
@@bharatkapoor4062 when he gave the example of efficient army institution it was actually very convincing. . . But he is proposing an idealistic model that needs refinement. . . But I partially agree with Dr taimur on state intervention to some extent in large scare industries . . . Where corporate can exploit common citizenz and politics
really irritating watching him repeatedly interrupt Dr. Taimur and not letting him complete his talk
India learnt its hard lessons with Enron Project and that was the first and the last with the sovereign guarantees.
Pakistan has to learn from other's experience rather than "The Pakistan Experience".
As a social democrat im suprised how well the guest refuted all the of Muzamil’s neo-liberal taking points. 1:21:24. bring this guest back.
This podcast is the only Muzammil's podcast which have long debate... at one point they were literally fighting 😂😂 otherwise in other shows its a light, healthy talk but here its all about disagreeing with each other. This happens when you interview an economist lol no one can defeat them my macroeconomics professor is next level thing, you just can't argue anything with her🤣
Regarding output maximization muzzamil was giving very important concern keeping the competition and demand in the equation. . I couldn't get get that part clear . . Taimur Sahab discussed his point but this point got lost in the shuffle
مزمل نے آج ایک ARY اینکر کی طرح تصویر کی ایک روخ پیش کرنے کی کوشش کی، اور اس کا اندازہ اس بات سے لگیا جا سکتا ہے کہ مزمل نے پروفیسر صاحب کو بات مکمل کرنے کا موقعہ بھی نہیں دیا، بس سوالوں پر سوال اٹھائے جا رہا تھا اور جب پروفیسر صاحب نے جواب دینے کی کوششیں کی تو بیچھ میں ARy والوں کی طرح ٹپکتا تھا اور جواب کا ستیاناس کر دیتا تھا ۔۔۔آج مجھے ایسا لگا جیسے کہ مزمل نے اپنے آپ کو منوانے کی کوشش کی ہے نہ کہ کچھ سیکھنے کی۔۔۔۔۔ اگر آپ نے quality کو بڑھانی ہے تو آپ کو اپنے ان غلطیوں پر عور کرنا ہو گا ۔۔۔۔۔ اس طرح کے ڑیبیٹ میں لوگ emotions کو کنٹرول کرتے ہیں جیسا کہ پروفیسر صاحب نے کیا آپ کو ان سے سیکنا چاہیے اور میں امید کرتا ہوں کہ آپ نے محسوس بھی کیا ہو گا کہ عالم لوگ آپ کی طرح اپنے نظریات کو ٹھونسے نہیں بلکہ ایک respectful way کے ساتھ پیش کرتے ہیں آپ اس سے agree کر سکتے ہیں اور disagree بھی کر سکتے ہیں جس طرح کہ پروفیسر صاحب نے کیا ۔۔۔۔۔۔
Commendable...Please bring people like Senator Javid Jabbar and Munawar Sabir...
Wow, Dr. Taimur Rahman has shared such great ideas and options for growth and progress, Muzamil bhai; you really need to get out of this kind of capitalism and materialistic thinking. There is always a solution with socialism if the government is willing to go for it. I agree with Dr. Taimur Rahman. great discussion overall.
"Man of knowledge"
Dobara honi chahye esi podcast Bhai🌹
Real podcast i would say perfect discussion
Please do another round, It was a whole different prespective. Great conversation.
what an amazing teacher.. wonderful. I wish I could get a chance to be taught by him.
Muzzamil was right about the PIA layoff thing....
You first have to get rid of the dead load to turn around the system, get efficient and then you can add more capital to expand it in future... Other wise with dead load new capital will also get used without giving the ROI....
Similar situation happened with Air India after it was taken over by TATA...
They introduced voluntary retirement VRS FOR 4500 EMPLOYES OF 12500+ OUT OF WHICH 1500 ACCEPTED IT IN JULY . in coming months thousands more will be accepting it as well....
By privatisation you can get rid of naukri politics .. if plans go well it will surely create more employment and if it doesn't work out then all the 12500+ won't be begging for jobs at same time ... Less 4500 people would really soften the impact for those 8000 employees .
Taking PIA as example is wrong. Aviation is considered toughest sector to turn profit (razor thin margins)even in heigh income countries.
Pakistan with 22 cr population and per capita of 1600 US dollars, is gargantuan task.
Sure ....for only profit shake.....if flight are only deployed in 5-6 profitable route having only 7-8 destination .. sure a profitable PIA , but wats d point ??
In India Indigo airlines have 50-60 % market share , it's a cheap airlines has zero facility , no bussiness class , no lounge , forget first class, no complementary meals ..... Its like city local bus but cheap ticket. Plus indigo run international routes only to popular middle East destination for migrant labor to travel ( all economy configuration)
Air India has been sold too TATA.... Let see, time will tell?? running a full service airline with flight to costly routes like Paris , Tokyo , newyork etc ( competing with 5 star airlines like British airways , Lufthansa , klm ,pan amm etc ) in price sensitive market ( per capita is 2800 USD ). It would be imposible...in my opinion... 90 plus years old ratan Tata taking all d bad decisions.
It was a chicken and the egg argument and both had 2 different school of thoughts. . . A hybrid model is required to keep the local industry bidding and large scale industry being productive. . . Dr taimur also discussed it in his own videos in detail . . .
So much food for thought. I believe debate and dispute is a better way to ideate rather than presenting a specific narrative alone.
Very Informative podcast.
Let's break away from the platonic cave..
Most awaited podcast !!!
Very insightful discussion
This was amazing podcast. Would appreciate if you do your upcoming podcast on dams and hydropower, and specially discuss the controversial Kala Bagh Dam.
Always a treat to listen to Dr. Taimur.
thanks alot for this podcast please also bring sahil adeem
Dr Taimur Rehman simply nailed it with a simple line after 30 min of argument:
Apke paas F16 khareedne ke paise hain na?
Hope Muzammil will understand the root of the problem
Thank God Pakistan has some intelligent people. Enjoy listening to him. God bless him and protect him.
A very good podcast, treat to the brain! Dr Rehman is great at communication and supporting his ideas. I loved the conversation between an economist and a business student... Muzamil bhai capitalism is based on numbers - life is not. I agree to Rehman's hybrid approach. I think 'Technology' provides solutions to a lot of Pakistan's problems!! This will require 2 things "neeat" (don't equate it with the 'will' in english) and "sabr" (yes, both words are taken from religious context, will make sense if thought upon without prejudices). The people of Pakistan need to have those two factors more than expecting from the government. Happy new year!
Listening Dr sb is fabulous and always enlightening. His views are very much with clarity and he has practical flavour for system change by his own way. You can brand him left leaning but I think what all he says is universal and verily related to this part of the land. His views are a kind of paradigm shift and it is only viable if whole part of the land focused to change. Now a days his school of theory is being applied in most of the countries successfully and we can also do within Pakistan. His Political views are little rigid and skewed what may be a difficult proposition because of the political school of thought in Pakistan. Let's hope he continued his effort to find out a good leadership but not like Bhutto and his legacy.
Oho, oho, kya justice kiya hai, dono roles ne 🔥🔥- capitalism vs socialism, what a discussion, bhai, dil jeet liya, jiyo ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
I also think it's more of a discipline problem than work force. However, there are certain examples where there is unnecessary work force but instead of firing them, they can be moved to other places based on their skills and education.
For example, in a government university, there is a person who cleans the whiteboard, then there is a person who is responsible for bringing the equipment (projector, etc.), then there is a person who writes the attendance. All of this can be automated and the work force can be used in other areas.
To get stipend from government departments like benevolent fund, you have to attest each document from the university and etc. You can automate that process and use the extra work force in other areas.
Muzammil bhai ko democracy wali freedom chahye laikin aik authoritarian regime mai..
Very good podcast ...but i may differ sir in many things like he called right wing religious followers extremists....
A very healthy and open discussion of ideas and road map for the future of the Pakistan economy.
Arey in donu koi nahi sun'ta yahan, aisey hee lagy hain.. Finance minister be Karni apni hee hai 😂😂
Arey in donu ki koi nahi sun'ta yahan.. Finance minister ne Karni apni hee hai 😂😂
Best podcast so far.
Hmm
Thoroughly enjoyed the healthy debate and both sides being vehemently defended with respect
The one thing that both seemed to agree on during the heated part of the conversation was KE as a bad example of privatization.
Without taking sides in the debate, we need to stop demonizing KE. Karachi's electrical situation is far better since the privatization, despite the challenges. It has been one of the better success stories of efficiency...the common sentiment from the average Karachiite may not be very positive, but looking at it objectively, the city has been better off since the privatization. The electricity situation is better than Lahore or Multan (barring high loss areas). The customer focus is far better
Take for example, other utilities of the city and the shape they are in. For instance, KWSB, KMC etc...the city's transport and road infrastructure.
As someone who has spent most of his life here, trust me, Karachi is far better off with KE privatized
Muzamil Brain Level = 2/10
Dr. Rahman Brain Lvl = 9.5/10
Muzammil jani, I'm a little disappointed. Your line of questioning is brilliant, but you need to let the guest complete his argument before barging in. A good podcast nevertheless.
And being as pragmatic as you are, I'm surprised that you support Imran Khan, who indulges the public in idealistic conspiracies. I am an ex-PTI supporter, but his non-practical, confrontational brand of politics AFTER assuming power made me a disbeliever. During the same time, compare our numbers with Bangladesh's and suddenly, the COVID argument goes down the drain.
Good to see tbt diversifying its guests, bus Imran Riaz Khan ko matt lana 😂
I'm TAIMOOR. AND I wish to meet Dr TAIMOOR REHMAN. I am really impress Dr Taimoor.
Wow ... what a podcast, loved it immensely. So much respect for both individuals ...... Despite my differences with Dr Taimoor. I have loved this podcast listening to him as an expert on Political economy for the first time instead of a SOCIALIST Purely. Thanks to the host. Brilliant answer to the last question by Dr. Taimoor, loved its simplicity.