PvP DPS Tier List - WoW Mists of Pandaria
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- A full TIER LIST for all dps classes and specs in PvP on the Mists of Pandaria expansion made with the help of a highly experienced PvP veteran from MoP - Wickedfury, for the patch 5.4.8 - last patch of Mists of Pandaria which all WoW private servers use.
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I love mop i had so much fun i was literally spending all my time in timeless island and i used to take a break to kill alliance in the pvp vendors or messing about mind control/typhoon them from the wall down xD! imo pvp was the most balanced to all expansions is such a shame we dont have a pvp server like warmanes icecrown for pandaria thank you for an other spot on video Meytrix
Im slowly getting nostalgic to MoP . WoW has been a part of my life as i grew up so its always cool to rediscover it with a pvp perspective .
I still keep going back to the legendary Swifty, Bajheera, Hansol MoP PvP videos even if I don’t play the expansion 😅
Could you make one for bg's or 1v1's in general? I know game ain't balanced around 1v1 but would be cool to hear your input as I am not an avid arena player anymore.
there's only very little 1v1 and duels going on on MoP so I have honestly no idea how well or poorly classes can do in those situations, I would have to battle like at least 5 different people of each spec many times to get somewhat of an idea and that's pretty much impossible with the kind of activity there is in duel zones 😔 and I try to touch on the PvP in BGs a little bit, but unless it's a rated BG, it's usually just about who the person behind the PC is, and there is also a healer PvP tier list that I am working on, so that might give you even more complete idea about MoP PvP
@@MEYTRIX Thanks mate, the video was very well made by the way.
I just wanna play a class that I enjoy in both pvp and pve that isn't too hard to play.
Don't really like spec switching much :D
So it's probably best I pick a pure dps class like warlock, mage or rogue.
I'm thinking affliction lock, frost mage & sub rogue right now.
Any thoughts on how these are doing in bg's and 1v1's at least? if you got any friends that duel a lot :D
I like to 1v1 and want to hold my own on timeless isle for example :D
@@GalinhoFC sub rogue is always a good pick for PvP, and it's the king of duels, it's actually a really good dps spec in PvE on MoP too, but rogues are definitely one of the more complicated classes, though aff locks and frost mage's aren't much simpler either, frost mage is also a beast in 1v1, and in BGs for single target burst, aff lock would probably be the weakest of the 3 in 1v1s, overall I would go with subtlety
@@MEYTRIX Thanks mate. I'd just play sub in both pvp and pve then. Combat sounds fun too though.
@@MEYTRIX Very much appreciate your input since you look like you know what you're talking about. Rather new to MoP. Been a wotlk fanboy my whole life basically eventhough I started playing when BC came out on private servers (WoWScape).
Very well put together. I just don't agree with unholy and ret. Unholy is definitely S tier. You can always push it to the top with rsham or monk. Unholy is harder to manage in comparison to warrior for instance, and I think that's his disadvantage. Ret paladin has good qualities as you have mentioned, but overall I think he really rely on partner's dmg, meaning - hes better support then the actual dps and frankly you will never push it to the top. Just look at every leader board out there. You can see there only unholy dk, warr, mage, rogue sometimes survival hunt.. ret paladin is more like at the end of A tier or maybe B in my opinion. Also look at the retail. Mystic was the only grev glad ret paladin (that's why he wears that title I guess cuz it's a flex basicly lol). I would also add that, even do rsham is probably the best pick for warr, I would argue that rdruid might be slightly better if you really practice. Because I personally felt like control was always superior about everything. But I might be wrong. Anyways really great rankings.
Good points.
Will wait for the Legion tier list
should be coming before Legion comes out on Felsong!
very accurate placement and no bullshiting. great work as allways :) go so tired of disc+frost mage when i played mop private server while back xD
thank you, I am pretty worried about some comps doing TOO well 😅
@@MEYTRIX haha yeah so many strong classes in mop its ridiculous xD btw i saw you didnt mention anything about Balance/Affli in 2v2 bracket. i found it one of the best double dps comps in the 2s bracket if played right. the warlock gets rejuvination and balance gets Unending Resolve i think from symbiosis. Dont know how the private server ladder looks but i remember Thyraz pushing multible rank 1s with that back in the day being able to kite and heal endlessly. i think he even played with destro warlock.
Edit: even though Thyraz was probably considered the best balance back then and he played with the best warlocks, i still think the potential of that comp was insane
Oh yeah, balance can work in many double dps comps in 2v2 since it can act as a healer if needed
I forgot to ask you any good updates for Helios pvp wise?
The first pvp season starts tomorrow, BGs are active, first BGs pop as early as 11:00 morning and in the evenings we usually have at least 2 BG groups in at the same time, I’d like to see a dedicated dueling zone still, duels are what I miss a lot 😞
@@MEYTRIX I made one human to check the water's of the server the other day and outside sw was empty as far the trade/global chat dead queet not even gold seller's.
This makes me miss playing MoP so much, wasnt the best expansion, but i had A LOT of fun in pvp playing pretty much every class but Spriest main. God comp was S tier for sure (spriest, frost mage, rdruid)
Also whats the best mop server you would recommend?
I am enjoying MoP PvP a lot too, best MoP servers atm are Twinstar Helios and Stormforge Mistblade, each has its pros and cons so it's very individual
@@MEYTRIX I've been wanting to go back and play either cata or mop but can't figure out what servers are worth investing my time in. You should do a video comparing all the pros and cons of mop servers if you haven't already. Either way your videos are awesome 👍
@@ahetzel9054 thank you, a video like that is actually on the list 😄 I did compare them a little bit already, but only in few criteria, still waiting for the raids opening and first pvp season on Helios to be able to compare them fairly
@@MEYTRIX which is the most populated?
Best pvp by far. For the best overall mmo rgp experience though, I'd pick between wotlk & vanilla + - depending on whether I want a great questing experience or fun end game. Turtle wow & duskhaven are the best vanilla + servers. Duskhaven is my personal favorite. It brings wotlk class design into vanilla. Amazing combination
Hey Meytrix - which is the most active Privat MoP Server if it comes to arena? - Appreciate the content :)
hey Lector, thank you, definitely Stormforge Mistblade 2 right now
thanks gonna check it out :) hope leveling goes fast@@MEYTRIX
Do you think you'll do a MoP comp tier list for 2v2?
@@prestonknight6217 maybe once MoP Classic comes closer I might
as far as PvP goes, you need to put sub on A & put enh, bm & feral on S.
tell us why you think so
Bm was stupid in like 5.2 or 5.3
I remember prot warrior being unkillable un 2s, isnt that correct ? Or later expansión ?
You’re right, Second Wind is OP healing on MoP, it rly makes warriors super-hard to kill
*Played Lock, Hunter, DK, Warr, Rdruid, Rshaman and Disc in Mists, all above 2k 3v3, some 2.2*
And this tier list is not how i remembered it...
So i checked season 15 ladder and counted the amount of each spec on the top 200 players:
Aff: 24 + Destro 4
Frost: 19 + Fire 5
SP: 14
Survival: 10 + 7 MM
Arms: 13 + 0
SubRogue: 10 + 0
Boom: 8 + 0
etc
cba counting more but seems to me you have a thing against warriors.
When Mage, Lock and SP were that dominant, Warr has no business being ahead of them. Specially when the best comp at the time for arms was WLS. And the best comp for Aff was MLS or MLD or LSD2 or Splay or LSD with zeepye.
wait, are you talking about MoP from 10 years ago? this is 2022 tier list
Can you do the same Tier list for MOP pvp healers? :)
I wanted to, already started working on it, but I will still need more info and opinions of seasoned players 😕
@@MEYTRIX you are fkng legend bro
Привет, данный топ составлен именно на патч 548? 550 ilvl?
Yes
I loved feral druid in MoP. Was 1v2ing arenas easily for fun XD
Yeeep, but it also takes a rly good player and ppl on higher ratings won’t let you do that 💀
I remember how I was bullied playing affliction warlock or shadow rogue on WotLK but in the end kicked those asses☕️👨🏻
RET ARENA PVP mop vs cata who was better?
same with Dks and hunter please mop version or cata?> thanks bro big fan of ur channel from america
Ret was insanely good in Cata, it’s still decent in MoP but not nearly as good, hunter is amazing on both, but on MoP it’s actually viable with all 3 specs, and DKs might be a bit better on Cata overall but very comparable, still one of the better classes
WW is S. S for Ass Broken Shit when devs were given 1 hour to make a class right before release. You sometimes question whether it is a class and not some testing mode option left unremoved on release.
Druid - B to S if you're talking about pservers. Where I play they have crazy hots and easily buggeable even without extra software - like dual model ferals on transformation potions randomly, double hard cast starsurge on end, shooting stars procs in fucking roar of sacrifice in 1v1 ( for 100-200k dps each lol also randomly breaking through invuls ) pve stuff working on guardians so your sub eviscerate on opener deals pathetic 10k regardless of cds. They are just hard to patch
PS: dont forget about the gear. In < 540+ fire , affli, SP are kinda worthless, but once they get gear , their damage is multiplied by a lot. Like 550 sp deals 3-4x more dps than 522 able to kill ppl by just recasting dots once if they cant heal and 550 no longer need a pillar - you see most of them stand in place in the open like retards.
@godlee908 Try pservers. You'll see shit
@godlee908 its when u burst on a kitty, he receives no damage, and then opens on you from invis because it was not rly the kitty you wanted with literally a single feral per bg
How would you rank healers for pvp
1-by simplicity
2-by power
I know its subjective, but thanks in advance
simplest: holy paladin and holy priest, resto druid would probably be the most complicated...and by power it differs quite a bit in different pvp brackets and also comps, like holy priest has one of the strongest comps in 2v2 on MoP - with frost mage, but aside from that not too many viable options, holy paladin, r sham, r druid are all very good, and I haven't seen disc priest much in MoP PvP at all, they kinda suck
@@MEYTRIX My friend is playing windwalker monk so I can't decide what do I want to play 😅
@@martinivanov1817 if you wanna play a healer with it (which would be gei but I am not gonna judge you) - then holy priest definitely best
@@MEYTRIX Why xdd,? Is then frost/hunter good with it
@@martinivanov1817 nope, not good, you could consider playing ww+boomkin/ret/rogue, but they aren’t too competitive
Combat rogue & resto shammy is quite decent, I have had good fun and success with a friend pushing. But still sub rogue mm hunt is just superior, not even a question 😅😅
I forgot to mention that the Tierlist is very accurate, i agree with them all, would put Combat above assa though.
I'd say with even poorer classes you could still go up to some 2k rating just by outplaying ppl, I'd like to try out Combat on MoP myself although I would prefer to play in double dps comps
Thank you, props and criticism goes to Wickedfury 😁
What about pve dps? That would be good! But the pvp one is really good man! Gratz
I will have to get an experienced PvE guest on call for that one 🤔
do you have mop healer tier list? (pvp)
I don't think I made one, I was working on it but I then I was like - it's not worth the effort 😅🤐
@@MEYTRIX are resto shamans good? Because i turned back game for cata ( i started as resto shaman for pvp) but i might stat for mop too since these will be last days good part of wow. I was curious if investing on resto shaman is good for in a long term.
@@leventyesilyurt1907 yea shamans are good, not as OP as in Cata, but still a very good pick
@@MEYTRIX thank you
Guess you've never had MW monk+ guardian Druid in arenas.
Nope, I don’t think that would do enough dps to kill anyone
hey bro can you pls make tier list for legion ? :D
hey Kombi, you just reminded me I wanted to do it before Felsong launches, thank you 😅
Could u see a team in 2s consisting of an Unholy Shadow comp?
Yes, very rare, SP is so squishy it needs a big peel - such as rogue, UDK doesn’t peel enough 😔
@@MEYTRIXaren't shadow priests pretty tanky in mop if specced and geared correctly while still maintaining high damage output?
@@devwadehra9896 everybody’s somewhat tanky in MoP, everyone’s got everything, but without a peeler you will struggle getting above 2k with SP
@@MEYTRIX yeah and I see that shadow form got nerfed in 5.4 we lost our 15% damage mitigation to all classes for more armor and shadow damage. It also seems like we don't heal for as much using holy spells versus previous expansions like wotlk.
As someone who played Holy 10 years ago, im sad you ignored it. Id queue up as healer and out DPS the tank on a regular basis cause the chastise Chakra made your smites absolutely insane. Thats not even covering pvp
Wouldn’t even think about including a healing spec in top dpsers 🤔 but in PvP you’d probably run out of mana really fast and you’d miss your best healing without Chakra
is this still accurate today?
Yep
When stream?
idk if ever 🥲 but if I'd ever go live - I will tag everyone on Discord
Frost mage insane damage DPS lol .... yea only on these crap poorly coded private servers , frost was something like #3 lowest DPS of all damage class/specs in MOP. They had good burst but poor DPS. Yes they rule the DPS damage charts on these unblizzlike servers tho and Yes Frost was the mage pvp spec but, due to mobility, CC and defence, not damage. They were top tier 3v3 not 2v2 like on these trash servers. With the mobility , CC, utility and defence they have coupled with the insane bugged damage on tauri and stormforge they rule the roost and make these servers garbage for blizzlike pvp.
best healer please?
r druids are extremely popular in pvp, and holy priest, especially paired up with a frost mage is one of the, if not THE BEST, comp
2s doesn't matter. 2s were, and should be, a bracket no one cares about. Rank them based on 3v3.
we are talking about private servers here, there is no MoP on retail, and 3v3 is a dead bracket compared to 2s
@@MEYTRIX Well aware, and that makes it even even less of a reason to take this ranking seriously.
There aren't enough good MoP private server players to tell what's good and bad.
@@okandokandast thats more like a "you" problem than anything else. if you dont care about 2s or private servers, then gtfo
Look like u not pvp player
rekted 🥲
@@MEYTRIX 🥲
Fury is second most strongest wtf, and affli is strongest
Not in pvp
frost dk is very good in mop ,same with assasination,ik from experience
you can only prove it by dueling me, mister 😏
i dont need to prove nothing,even i can duel but again ik since Genesis era than tauri, frostdk maybe wasnt very best on genesis but was still good ,unholy was bugged there with an exploit a lot of healing,assasination is very good too,depend how you play it and what build you wanna play , with paralytic poison or other ones
only absolute clowns play assa in mop, sub is the way to go
@@AB-su7jt Sub is for nolifer tryhards, and is only that good on paper. In reality the positional requirements bring it down with the rest
@@stangadoboaradreaptaomoara9567you mean assa