Media: Michael Jordan had Scottie, that's why he was so good!! Also Media: LeBron needs more help to be better! Wade, Bosh, Allen, Kyrie, Love, Anthony Davis are not enough! It's their fault he doesn't win a lot!
@marclyndoncruz6097 If he wanted to stat or ring chase, hed have 8 rings and pass kareem on the all time scoring list. Not tryna discredit MJ, just saying thats how good he is compared to Bron.
Worst thing about the statement is that it's an OLD one from Sharpe that aged poorly, because stat padding is really what James has been doing since 2021. Not even sure it's about winning as much as highlighting the stats HE wants highlighted (he'll never talk about the turnovers, etc.).
*I can’t believe a guy can still have a job talking sports after saying Jordan was Russell Westbrook before Pippen showed up!!! Unbelievable comment I’m speechless ㋡*
But LeBron had to leave and team up with D Wade and Bosh , but that went out the window when he tried to take control of the team ( Pat Riley is the Boss ) and teamed up with Kyrie and Love . Then he went to LA to team up with AD
Why do you think all these ex football players talk basketball? Because they’re all willing to lie for LeBron for a check. They will discredit another sport because they don’t care about it.
@@urusledge The other football players referred to are only on shows as guest. I've seen it happen more than once. Sharpe is the only one with a full time job.
They are also pushing narratives for players to secure huge contracts that the agency profits off of. Jalen Brunson has been great, but think about what kind of pressure it puts on the Knicks to pay him whatever he wants when the media says he is the 2nd coming of AI
Lebron himself also never takes accountability for the losses and always makes up excuses whether it's his teammates, coaching or fake injuries. More importantly, he never gives credit to his championship teammates either. I have yet to hear him praise how great his teammates (especially co-stars) were when they won.
I think his new podcast with jj redick really exposed this mindset he has. He was mentioning KCP as an important factor for the nuggets, but didn’t give him credit for being a big contributor to his LA championship. Then, he was talking about needing luck to win championships, but couldn’t think of anything in his own championship runs… It took them wrapping up the show and leaving for him to get reminded of Ray Allen’s shot and come back to talk about it being a case of luck leading to winning a championship
An athlete paying off people in the media to try and craft the narrative that they are the GOAT is legitimately one of the most pathetic things that I have ever seen in sports.
LeBron stacks his teams so he won’t get blame.. that’s the whole point.. he couldn’t handle the pressure of being the “best player” on his team and having to shoulder the blame… so he left, and joined 2 other guys so they could take the blame… cuz, come on, LeBron is on the team… if they can’t win with LeBron, it’s got to be their own fault right? Not LeBrons even though he absolutely disappeared in ‘11 Finals… and I was a mega fan of that team! I was Wade fan, so when Lebum came over I was hype! But it quickly became obvious that he doesn’t know how to share the spotlight and he can’t shoulder any responsibility… Jordan won while being that guy… I remember analysts and “journalists” talking mad trash about him if he lost a game in the 90’s… he would even directly respond! Then respond again in the game! Then get the last word in the post game presser!!! LeBron can’t and won’t do that…. Which is why he passes up on “game winners” or “clutch” shots… he’s great.. for sure… Uber talented, for sure… but can’t even be mentioned in the same breath as Jordan!
You are sport on. I lived in Chicago during Jordan's playing days. I had positive vibes for LeBron during his first time in Cleveland. Didn't like the 'decision' announcement. That's what turned me off.
I feel like lebron and his charging, traveling, no defensive effort, and whining /blaming teammates has run its course. It’s time for the media to move on, they are ruining basketball behind handicapping one man IMO.
LeBron is athletic, and that's not the same as uber talented. LeBron really isn't as talented as the media portrays. He pads his stats to make himself look better than he really is. Look at Jokic, little to no real athletic skill, but he keeps winning. Why? Because he's smart. Denver is going to keep winning because they brought in players to help Jokic to succeed. Jokic is much like Bird, but I believe Bird was a better player. Bird could put up more points and he did a better job utilizing his teammates. LeBron does everything he can to keep the spotlight on himself, even if he has to pay analysts to lie for him. If you look at LeBron's numbers through a performance spectrum, he's actually more of a top 50 player and rather than a top 10 player.
The fact that Jordan hasn't created his own media operation to combat LeBron's Klutch Sports propaganda...really proves how solidified he is as the GOAT. Even The Last Dance documentary didn't portray Jordan as a saint. It showed all the dirty grity aspects that made him what he was.
your a fool theres literal clips saying the media catered to MJ even to the point where if they didnt cater to MJ, mj would alienate them. yall just mj groupies
All 3 of those guys would fry in the 90’s, they are the product of this era and have to be insanely skilled to do what they did. Name any 90’s players who were as skilled as these 3 players? I’ll wait.
@@LL-zm9goMichael Jordan, Penny Hardaway, Kevin Garnett, Arvidas Sibonis, Scottie Pippen, Tim Hardaway, Allen Iverson Dirk Nowitzki Kobe Steve Nash are a just a few. But you’re a stat guy and not something who actually watched those players so you won’t agree but any of those guys to their prime in this weak ass era? They are cooking
Hahahahahaha. Outside of Jordan & Kobe, all of those others would get absolutely fried but Jokic, Luka, & Brunson, positions respective ofcourse. But you are absolutely out of your mind if you think KG or Sabonis are stopping Jokic. I figured some casual would use Jordan or Kobe, the other names would stand zero chance. I guess “stat guy” is another term for someone who actually knows basketball and doesn’t rely on nostalgia & bias. These channels are pathetic echo chambers for casuals who know nothing about the game nor have played it at a high level. Thanks for the laugh
@@LL-zm9gothe joke is you actually think you’re right. To say iverson who lead the league in steals multiple times or penny hardaway would get “fried” by Luka is crazy. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about or you have only been watching basketball for like 10 years.
Shannon is just white noise at this point. No one who really knows basketball is listening to him when he talks Lebron or Jordan. As soon as the checks stop flowing, he’ll stop running his mouth.
Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs Lebron james has won more playoff Series' than any player in NBA HISTORY Lebron james has been to 10 nba finals. Only Bill Russell and Sam Jones (in a mostly nine team league) have made more nba finals appearances LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate Rick Barry (1975) Bill Walton (1977) Hakeem Olajuwon (1994) Tim Duncan (2005) (2007) Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010) Steph Curry (2015) (2022) LeBron james (2016) Kawhi Leonard (2019) Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021) As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!! I have added a Postscript So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER to make the playoffs in 1985, as opposed to 2004. Perfect example is, the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school
He doesn't need to. They want to be buddies with him right in time when he buys a new team or starts another business venture in the US. They want access to that show.
I always ask Bron fans! What part does LeBron play in those 6 losses in the finals? We all know quote un quote Those playoff losses was all on Jordan, so I’m asking what part Bron plays in all those playoff and finals losses? They can never answer that question
All I know is no matter where Bron been and who he played with, nobody but him has those 6Ls.. When the problem follows you it's time to look in the mirror lmfao
That's actually on LeBron: he was on the Cavs for seven years without a ring before he decided he wanted to get traded. You know who else went without a ring for seven years? Michael Jordan, but Mike stuck it out and used the fear of failure to hone his edge. In terms of mental fortitude and competitiveness, LeBron's progression as an All Time Great stopped once he left the Cavs. Once he found that he could cobble together a super team instead of leading a bunch of great players to championship status, he was done developing. It's like those guys who spend on a budget years building PCs, trying to squeeze every last drop of performance out of every dime, then giving that up once they have enough money and just buying them premade: same results, but your understanding of the craft has come to a dead stop.
He won 3 championships BEFORE pippen (Ncaa, world & olympics) Also had myltiple scoring titles, ROY, DPOY, multiple all team nba, multiple all defence teams, steals titles, and more before 7ppg pippen
Funny how they act like Pippens 7 ppg was the reason they won their first playoff series together. How good do you think the Lakers would be without their best player in AD?
I noticed Shannon mentioning that Jordan lost to my Pistons three straight times: fair enough, a lot of teams lost to the Pistons in '89-90. What he doesn't mention is once the Bulls roster finally clicked into place and beat Detroit to get the championship in '91, Jordan did not let it go: once he finally found a way past the Pistons, he was basically unstoppable. He was even good when he was playing for the Wizards. If he didn't take his break in '94, the Bulls wouldn't have a pair of three-peats.
Excellent video as usual. For Shannon to compare MJ to Westbrook shows how much of a 🤡 he is. MJ won 6 championships with Pippen as his sidekick. Westbrook couldn’t even play alongside Durant and Magic Johnson called Westbrook the worst PG in the history of the Finals when OKC lost.
LeBron James has been in the league for 2 decades and still doesn't have a jumpshot or a post game. His entire career is a manufactured media psy-op. It's never been a "conspiracy" for anyone who has watched him play
LeBron james has never had an assist to turnover ratio as bad as curry and this season shot his best at 3p% career 41%. Led the league in PPG in the 4th quarter... he avgs 5 fts lol and 2 ft in the 4th. Ok though I guess hes just not so good hes a lil old. 4 mvps at age 28 btw.
do people realize pip was a 16 6 5 player for his career? he had a few good seasons, but thats about it. also, in big playoff moments he came up short several time (like lebron). they say mj didnt win without pip. i say pip didnt win anything without mj.
@@KyprosEc yes his better attribute was defense, but its other things why he came up short so often in the playoffs. mj has the flu game, pip has the migraine game. 91 who really locked down magic? go back and watch those games. pip was in foul trouble a lot and it was mj and others guarding magic. 1996 finals pip 15 8 5 on 34%. 98 finals pip bad back. if you really think about, pip wouldnt be a top 75 player without mj as his teammate. pip had about 5 maybe 6 good seasons, but thats about it.
@trick0502 I agree with everything you just said. Notice how I never said pippen was better than MJ defensively...because he wasn't. I watched those games like you did in real time. It was Jordan locking down the best player more than Pippen. Pippen Is not a top 75 player all time to me. As a side kick he rocked it but alone he's more or less top 100. He played a role and accepted it. That needs to be respected.
You do know that the 1997 Jazz took out Olajuwon. We never got a Finals between MJ vs. Olajuwon. But is that MJ’s fault? The Jazz took out Olajuwon, Barkley, Drexler, Duncan, Robinson, Shaq, and a young Kobe those two years in 1997 and 1998. But yeah, Jordan only beat weak competition while LeBron is beating Roy Hibbert and a Warriors team who lost Andrew Bogut to injury. Notice Jordan won rings when he played in the deepest era of centers. MJ used to drive to the basket a lot too. While LeBron won rings in the weakest decade for centers when DeAndre Jordan is named All-NBA FIRST Team! 😂 Now that Jokic and Embiid have reached their prime, he can’t win anymore! BTW, Duncan was 2-1 in the playoffs against LeBron while Kobe is 4-2 against Duncan. Based on Finals games, Duncan is 11-4 against LeBron. Spurs should’ve won in 2013. LeBron got swept by a team who’s center was Zaza Pachulia! Scary! 😂 I enjoy watching LeBron stans lose in GOAT debates. To quote Les Grossman: I WILL MASSACRE YOU! I WILL F*CK YOU UP!
l looked up the stats for game 7 of the 1990 Eastern Conference finals Bulls vs Pistons . Jordan had 31 pts 9 assists 8 rebounds on 48% shooting. Scottie Pippen was 1 for 10 shooting with 2 assists and 4 rebounds. Players 2 through 6 for the bulls shot 19% from the field combined. 15 field goals were made outside of Jordan for the Bulls and 9 of those were assisted by Jordan. The Pistons of course won game 7 and would go on to beat Portland 4-1 in the finals. Bulls would sweep Detroit the next season's playoffs and win their first title. Fun facts: Jordan only played two full seasons before Scottie Pippen showed up(one injury season, only played 18 games). Scottie Pippen averaged 7.9 ppg as a 22 year old rookie.
Two of the big narratives are that LBJ makes everyone else better, and always makes the right basketball play…if true, then by that logic it should be all his fault when they lose
I’m from Germany, I saw Jordan Live twice in Chicago in 1997 and follow the league since 1993. I've never seen a player in professional sport with that killer instinct since. Yeah Kobe was near that level, but then… You can compare stats for days, but HOW you win games is a different story. Jordan has not allowed himself to lose in crucial games and has demanded this attitude from his teammates. He was the best leader you can imagine and at the same time the most feared opponent ever. No question whose the GOAT
The only time MJ was at fault for losing a series was against Orlando when he came back from retirement. But the moment he found his grove again he swept the Magic.
I played pick up basketball last night and seriously had a 17 year old telling me that Anthony Edwards was the best player in the league and that Lebron was the GOAT because Jordan could not go left.
What’s always been crazy to me is that Sharpe was around in that era of basketball. I wonder what he thought of Jordan at that time as those feats were happening live.
Those who are done with the “90’s are gonna be shocked to find out that Anthony Edwards plays like a “90’s player his body language is very much “90. I’m excited to see what he does cause he’s give that crowd who has never watch 90’s nba players, a glimpse of the skills the 90’s players had.
You watch MJ play in the 90’s and you can see he was trying to win. He was playing JUST AS HARD ON DEFENSE as he does on offense. Brunson is not only not capable of that type of sustained defense but neither was iverson. The effort and ability was insane on defense all day
Absolutely spot on, why does he keep going to super teams every time he starts losing again. He knows he can’t win there, and will go somewhere else. Media is horrible
40+ point games doesn't impress me in the modern NBA. It's an offensive league. The rules and the officiating is heavily tilted towards the offense. Just like the NFL. If you took a shot every time a player traveled in contemporary hoops you'd have alcohol poisoning by halftime.
Klutch Sports pays ESPN and I am pretty sure they pay Google and Meta as well. I’ve had threads here on youtube where I am critical of Lebron but in a measured tone yet I can no longer clap back at the Lebron fanboys. This happens often on ESPN’s channel. Their whole agenda is to prop up Lebron and create false narratives.
I’m a Knick fan ( since 1973 ) what Brunson is doing is historic . He’s wearing the heaviest jersey in the NBA and he is the one!!! ( KD & Kyrie didn’t want that heat ) he put the city on his back, but to turn around and downplay Jordan???? Like he ran from team to team to join up with other stars ⭐️ Is ridiculous
That’s why Shaq smothered him when Shannon said he was salty for Jokic’s MVP. Shaq said if you’re not even in the top 10, you don’t have the right to talk about him hahahaha!
Remember that 2001 Allen Iverson still had the DPOTY, Sixth Man of The Year, and Coach of The Year on that team. He was the best player but not completely alone.
What's disturbing is how the NBA is allowing Klutch sports to run the NBA. Going as far as texting voters to name Lebron the MVP. David Stern would never have allowed this mess. Adam Silver is a complete push over and doesn't know how to run an organization.
Bron been out my top 10 for a while now I can’t respect a player that carries them selfs like this it’s a joke, No integrity no respect for the game and it’s legacy and past players.
Keep knocking out these truth videos on these ignorant LeBron fans who would rather read and laugh at a meme than use another 5 minutes to research it. We used to laugh at the phrase "its on the internet. It must be true" but I never would have imagined that people would actual live their life by this phase now 🙄
As a marketing organization Klutch sports struggles with the problem of having an inferior product. If your product is inferior you have to try to diminish the competitions product to try to compete. It is such a tragedy that Klutch sports has a top product that is the least clutch of any superstar short of maybe Harden. Should have looked at their product and picked a more appropriate name. Maybe something like Drama Sports.
LeBron is never the issue but the problem follows him wherever he goes.. Weird
That is a FACT!!!!!
Its like *gasp* Bron has been the problem this whole time
(Ngl he is tho)
🎯🎯💯
Never thought of it like this 😬😬😬
Where theirs 💨……
Media: Michael Jordan had Scottie, that's why he was so good!!
Also Media: LeBron needs more help to be better! Wade, Bosh, Allen, Kyrie, Love, Anthony Davis are not enough! It's their fault he doesn't win a lot!
Bron has played with 3MVPS and every single one of them wasn't good enough at some point lol.. MJ play with 0MVPs
It’s completely insane logic, and I’m glad more and more people are starting to call this out!
LeTampon is also a giant hypocritical cry baby too
He also had melo westbrook howard 😂😂
I always wonder why thats never brought up Lebron is always jumping teams in search for better talent and then is teammates are at fault when he loses
My conclusion after listening to Shannon Sharpe is that Pippen is better than LeBron.
Thank you Shannon, for enlightening me.
yep, the 90s are washed, but Pippen is better than Lebron better than AD, go figure
Tbf, 6 rings > 4
You guys can be so stupid I actually can believe you are that stupid, somehow.
I can not listen to Shannon anymore when it comes to basketball at all. He’s a complete moron about it !!
@@zell2626ring culture doesn't mean much in terms of who was better
Lost to the Nuggets 11 straight times....😂😂😂
... even with AD, no less. And they had the nerve to attack Jordan's record w/o Pippen.
Not 3, not 6 .. Fkn 11 , Lord have mercy.. Woooow.
Losing to the Nuggets 11 times is not Lebron's fault. It is definitely Jokic's and Murry's fault.
"All he did was accumulate stats" Talking about MJ, not Bron?!?
Wow. Just FN wow. This is some Eric Cartman level projection from Shannon.
If jordan stats pads we would score more
@marclyndoncruz6097 If he wanted to stat or ring chase, hed have 8 rings and pass kareem on the all time scoring list.
Not tryna discredit MJ, just saying thats how good he is compared to Bron.
If MJ chased rings, he'd be mentoring Kobe in LA with the Lakers, not Kwame on Washington.
@@midnightlumina7 Gottdamn right.
Worst thing about the statement is that it's an OLD one from Sharpe that aged poorly, because stat padding is really what James has been doing since 2021. Not even sure it's about winning as much as highlighting the stats HE wants highlighted (he'll never talk about the turnovers, etc.).
*I can’t believe a guy can still have a job talking sports after saying Jordan was Russell Westbrook before Pippen showed up!!! Unbelievable comment I’m speechless ㋡*
But LeBron had to leave and team up with D Wade and Bosh , but that went out the window when he tried to take control of the team ( Pat Riley is the Boss ) and teamed up with Kyrie and Love . Then he went to LA to team up with AD
Why do you think all these ex football players talk basketball? Because they’re all willing to lie for LeBron for a check. They will discredit another sport because they don’t care about it.
Imagine if somebody told Shannon he wouldn't have been as successful as he was in football without a HoF QB. Oh wait, that happened.
Never look at it like that.
I wasn’t aware of any major ex football players outside of Sharpe.
@@urusledge 1 is sitting near skip on undisputed and is talking shit while clearly not watching the games
@@urusledge The other football players referred to are only on shows as guest. I've seen it happen more than once. Sharpe is the only one with a full time job.
“Control the narrative” = discredit the game by getting people to lie for LeBalco.
They are also pushing narratives for players to secure huge contracts that the agency profits off of. Jalen Brunson has been great, but think about what kind of pressure it puts on the Knicks to pay him whatever he wants when the media says he is the 2nd coming of AI
@@mikevismyelement tyrese maxey and fred van vleet all benfited fromm hype by espn/ fs1
@@allenross3050they earned it tho
Lebron himself also never takes accountability for the losses and always makes up excuses whether it's his teammates, coaching or fake injuries.
More importantly, he never gives credit to his championship teammates either. I have yet to hear him praise how great his teammates (especially co-stars) were when they won.
I think his new podcast with jj redick really exposed this mindset he has. He was mentioning KCP as an important factor for the nuggets, but didn’t give him credit for being a big contributor to his LA championship. Then, he was talking about needing luck to win championships, but couldn’t think of anything in his own championship runs… It took them wrapping up the show and leaving for him to get reminded of Ray Allen’s shot and come back to talk about it being a case of luck leading to winning a championship
An athlete paying off people in the media to try and craft the narrative that they are the GOAT is legitimately one of the most pathetic things that I have ever seen in sports.
This sounds like late 90s hip hop, artists paying radio stations to play their music
At this point, I don’t even wanna argue with facts or stats. If someone says Mj is not the GOAT, can I just laugh at them?
Not just laugh, bust out laughing like MJ did in the last dance interview after he saw that GP video.
You're morally obligated to laugh at them!
CHOKE Sports is more appropriate.
LeBron stacks his teams so he won’t get blame.. that’s the whole point.. he couldn’t handle the pressure of being the “best player” on his team and having to shoulder the blame… so he left, and joined 2 other guys so they could take the blame… cuz, come on, LeBron is on the team… if they can’t win with LeBron, it’s got to be their own fault right? Not LeBrons even though he absolutely disappeared in ‘11 Finals… and I was a mega fan of that team! I was Wade fan, so when Lebum came over I was hype! But it quickly became obvious that he doesn’t know how to share the spotlight and he can’t shoulder any responsibility… Jordan won while being that guy… I remember analysts and “journalists” talking mad trash about him if he lost a game in the 90’s… he would even directly respond! Then respond again in the game! Then get the last word in the post game presser!!! LeBron can’t and won’t do that…. Which is why he passes up on “game winners” or “clutch” shots… he’s great.. for sure… Uber talented, for sure… but can’t even be mentioned in the same breath as Jordan!
Facts
Lebum is Uber talent? LMAO. He is a joke. The media makes him great. Lebum is average at best.
You are sport on. I lived in Chicago during Jordan's playing days. I had positive vibes for LeBron during his first time in Cleveland.
Didn't like the 'decision' announcement. That's what turned me off.
I feel like lebron and his charging, traveling, no defensive effort, and whining /blaming teammates has run its course. It’s time for the media to move on, they are ruining basketball behind handicapping one man IMO.
LeBron is athletic, and that's not the same as uber talented. LeBron really isn't as talented as the media portrays. He pads his stats to make himself look better than he really is.
Look at Jokic, little to no real athletic skill, but he keeps winning. Why? Because he's smart. Denver is going to keep winning because they brought in players to help Jokic to succeed. Jokic is much like Bird, but I believe Bird was a better player. Bird could put up more points and he did a better job utilizing his teammates.
LeBron does everything he can to keep the spotlight on himself, even if he has to pay analysts to lie for him. If you look at LeBron's numbers through a performance spectrum, he's actually more of a top 50 player and rather than a top 10 player.
The fact that Jordan hasn't created his own media operation to combat LeBron's Klutch Sports propaganda...really proves how solidified he is as the GOAT.
Even The Last Dance documentary didn't portray Jordan as a saint. It showed all the dirty grity aspects that made him what he was.
your a fool theres literal clips saying the media catered to MJ even to the point where if they didnt cater to MJ, mj would alienate them. yall just mj groupies
Well at least we have proof that its not just a conspiracy theory now
How anyone can argue bigger faster stronger with Jokic, Luka, and now Brunson in the league is beyond me
All 3 of those guys would fry in the 90’s, they are the product of this era and have to be insanely skilled to do what they did. Name any 90’s players who were as skilled as these 3 players? I’ll wait.
@@LL-zm9goMichael Jordan, Penny Hardaway, Kevin Garnett, Arvidas Sibonis, Scottie Pippen, Tim Hardaway, Allen Iverson Dirk Nowitzki Kobe Steve Nash are a just a few. But you’re a stat guy and not something who actually watched those players so you won’t agree but any of those guys to their prime in this weak ass era? They are cooking
Hahahahahaha. Outside of Jordan & Kobe, all of those others would get absolutely fried but Jokic, Luka, & Brunson, positions respective ofcourse. But you are absolutely out of your mind if you think KG or Sabonis are stopping Jokic. I figured some casual would use Jordan or Kobe, the other names would stand zero chance. I guess “stat guy” is another term for someone who actually knows basketball and doesn’t rely on nostalgia & bias. These channels are pathetic echo chambers for casuals who know nothing about the game nor have played it at a high level. Thanks for the laugh
@@LL-zm9gothe joke is you actually think you’re right. To say iverson who lead the league in steals multiple times or penny hardaway would get “fried” by Luka is crazy. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about or you have only been watching basketball for like 10 years.
Jokic is basically a out of Shape Larry Bird who has 3 MVP's. You can't tell me the league is better. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Shannon is just white noise at this point. No one who really knows basketball is listening to him when he talks Lebron or Jordan. As soon as the checks stop flowing, he’ll stop running his mouth.
Never call some bum the GOAT who thinks “it’s just a game of basketball”.
MJ, Kobe and all the legends before them had way more love for the game.
Lebron and Rich Paul is paying ESPN, The NBA and the media
Or at least individuals
Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen
84-85 38-44..First round exit
85-86. 30-52..First round exit
86-87. 40-42...First round exit
01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs
02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs
Lebron james has won more playoff Series' than any player in NBA HISTORY
Lebron james has been to 10 nba finals. Only Bill Russell and Sam Jones (in a mostly nine team league) have made more nba finals appearances
LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals
In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate
Rick Barry (1975)
Bill Walton (1977)
Hakeem Olajuwon (1994)
Tim Duncan (2005) (2007)
Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010)
Steph Curry (2015) (2022)
LeBron james (2016)
Kawhi Leonard (2019)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021)
As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt
Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO
In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were
83-84 bulls 27-55
84-85 bulls. 38-44
92-93 bulls 57-25
93-94 bulls 55-27
98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen
00-01 wizards 19-63
01-02 wizards. 37-45
02-03 wizards 37-45
03-04 wizards 25-57
02-03 cavaliers 17-65
03-04 cavaliers 35-47
09-10 cavaliers 61-21
10-11 cavaliers 19-63
09-10 heat. 47-35
10-11 heat 58-24
14-15 heat 37-45
2013-14 cavaliers 33-49
2014-15 cavaliers 53-29
2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32
2018-19 cavaliers 19-63
2017-18 lakers. 35-47
2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day.
As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank.
Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter
Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck.
THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!!
I have added a Postscript
So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER to make the playoffs in 1985, as opposed to 2004. Perfect example is, the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school
@@vicepresidentmikepence889lebron missed the playoffs twice as many times as mike and even missed an entire play in
He doesn't need to. They want to be buddies with him right in time when he buys a new team or starts another business venture in the US. They want access to that show.
Nah, they're voluntarily on their knees for LeCon. Gug gug gug gug
I always ask Bron fans! What part does LeBron play in those 6 losses in the finals? We all know quote un quote Those playoff losses was all on Jordan, so I’m asking what part Bron plays in all those playoff and finals losses? They can never answer that question
Facts
All I know is no matter where Bron been and who he played with, nobody but him has those 6Ls..
When the problem follows you it's time to look in the mirror lmfao
That’s a great question ‼️
"MJ choked in the playoffs before Pippen" - "It's not LeBron's fault his supporting cast was not up to snuff". It's double think.
They can’t answer it, but they’ll be quick to call you a ‘hater’ for asking.
Lebron is just KD with a better PR team.. smh
I would say lebron is a better Westbrook
And what was LeBron‘s success in Cleveland before he went to Miami? Exactly: there was none.
Got to the finals cause playing in a weaker conference and got swept by spur
@@marclyndoncruz6097that’s not success
@@Sc19869 That's his point. Weak conference and then swept.
That's actually on LeBron: he was on the Cavs for seven years without a ring before he decided he wanted to get traded. You know who else went without a ring for seven years? Michael Jordan, but Mike stuck it out and used the fear of failure to hone his edge.
In terms of mental fortitude and competitiveness, LeBron's progression as an All Time Great stopped once he left the Cavs. Once he found that he could cobble together a super team instead of leading a bunch of great players to championship status, he was done developing.
It's like those guys who spend on a budget years building PCs, trying to squeeze every last drop of performance out of every dime, then giving that up once they have enough money and just buying them premade: same results, but your understanding of the craft has come to a dead stop.
@@marclyndoncruz6097 And played like absolute ASS in that series.
Shannon Sharpe complaining about Jordan STATS and needing another superstar sidekick is the RICHEST thing ever.
He won 3 championships BEFORE pippen
(Ncaa, world & olympics)
Also had myltiple scoring titles, ROY, DPOY, multiple all team nba, multiple all defence teams, steals titles, and more before 7ppg pippen
Funny how they act like Pippens 7 ppg was the reason they won their first playoff series together. How good do you think the Lakers would be without their best player in AD?
I noticed Shannon mentioning that Jordan lost to my Pistons three straight times: fair enough, a lot of teams lost to the Pistons in '89-90.
What he doesn't mention is once the Bulls roster finally clicked into place and beat Detroit to get the championship in '91, Jordan did not let it go: once he finally found a way past the Pistons, he was basically unstoppable. He was even good when he was playing for the Wizards.
If he didn't take his break in '94, the Bulls wouldn't have a pair of three-peats.
@@StandingStones409 I still don't understand what Lebrons failures have to do with Jordans?
and before the nba he won 8 straight against the nba all star team
@@doogiebear139you realize it took longer for lebron to win a chip than Jordan, right?
They always bring up jordan needed pippen, but failed to realize how many stars did lebron need to win 4 championships?
Excellent video as usual. For Shannon to compare MJ to Westbrook shows how much of a 🤡 he is. MJ won 6 championships with Pippen as his sidekick. Westbrook couldn’t even play alongside Durant and Magic Johnson called Westbrook the worst PG in the history of the Finals when OKC lost.
Lebum is entitled
LeBron James has been in the league for 2 decades and still doesn't have a jumpshot or a post game.
His entire career is a manufactured media psy-op. It's never been a "conspiracy" for anyone who has watched him play
LeBron james has never had an assist to turnover ratio as bad as curry and this season shot his best at 3p% career 41%. Led the league in PPG in the 4th quarter... he avgs 5 fts lol and 2 ft in the 4th. Ok though I guess hes just not so good hes a lil old. 4 mvps at age 28 btw.
Lane driver. All he ever has been, all he ever will be.
Bro, It's disgusting to see Shannon acuse and criticize MJ for what lebron is and does
1989 MJ was first team all defense and lead league in steals. He was playing so good on defense. He was no way Brunson or iverson.
Klutch sports is the AIPAC of the nba
do people realize pip was a 16 6 5 player for his career? he had a few good seasons, but thats about it. also, in big playoff moments he came up short several time (like lebron). they say mj didnt win without pip. i say pip didnt win anything without mj.
Correct. His better attribute was no doubt his defense. Offensively he was inconsistent and come playoffs unreliable offensively
Pimpin was a overrated choke artist and he always stay injured like A D
@@KyprosEc yes his better attribute was defense, but its other things why he came up short so often in the playoffs. mj has the flu game, pip has the migraine game. 91 who really locked down magic? go back and watch those games. pip was in foul trouble a lot and it was mj and others guarding magic. 1996 finals pip 15 8 5 on 34%. 98 finals pip bad back. if you really think about, pip wouldnt be a top 75 player without mj as his teammate. pip had about 5 maybe 6 good seasons, but thats about it.
@trick0502 I agree with everything you just said. Notice how I never said pippen was better than MJ defensively...because he wasn't. I watched those games like you did in real time. It was Jordan locking down the best player more than Pippen. Pippen Is not a top 75 player all time to me. As a side kick he rocked it but alone he's more or less top 100. He played a role and accepted it. That needs to be respected.
@@KyprosEc agree
You do know that the 1997 Jazz took out Olajuwon. We never got a Finals between MJ vs. Olajuwon. But is that MJ’s fault? The Jazz took out Olajuwon, Barkley, Drexler, Duncan, Robinson, Shaq, and a young Kobe those two years in 1997 and 1998. But yeah, Jordan only beat weak competition while LeBron is beating Roy Hibbert and a Warriors team who lost Andrew Bogut to injury.
Notice Jordan won rings when he played in the deepest era of centers. MJ used to drive to the basket a lot too. While LeBron won rings in the weakest decade for centers when DeAndre Jordan is named All-NBA FIRST Team! 😂 Now that Jokic and Embiid have reached their prime, he can’t win anymore!
BTW, Duncan was 2-1 in the playoffs against LeBron while Kobe is 4-2 against Duncan. Based on Finals games, Duncan is 11-4 against LeBron. Spurs should’ve won in 2013. LeBron got swept by a team who’s center was Zaza Pachulia! Scary! 😂 I enjoy watching LeBron stans lose in GOAT debates. To quote Les Grossman: I WILL MASSACRE YOU! I WILL F*CK YOU UP!
MJ is the definition of GREATNESS, while Lebron is the ultimate definition of a loser .
Now, it's confirmed that his career is fabricated
Just remember everything that Shannon says he's probably saying it with a pair of Jordans on his feet...
MJ 13 seasons 6-0 6 rings 6 fmvp 5 mvp 10 scoring titles 3 steals titles dpoy.
Lebron year 21 4-6 4fmvp 4 season mvp swept twice in the finals still chasing the ghost of MJ 😂😂😂😂
lebron hasnt even passed kobe
l looked up the stats for game 7 of the 1990 Eastern Conference finals Bulls vs Pistons . Jordan had 31 pts 9 assists 8 rebounds on 48% shooting. Scottie Pippen was 1 for 10 shooting with 2 assists and 4 rebounds. Players 2 through 6 for the bulls shot 19% from the field combined. 15 field goals were made outside of Jordan for the Bulls and 9 of those were assisted by Jordan. The Pistons of course won game 7 and would go on to beat Portland 4-1 in the finals. Bulls would sweep Detroit the next season's playoffs and win their first title. Fun facts: Jordan only played two full seasons before Scottie Pippen showed up(one injury season, only played 18 games). Scottie Pippen averaged 7.9 ppg as a 22 year old rookie.
LeMemorial day seriously thinks He’s better than Michael Jordan😂😂
Thank you UnCut Hoops for exposing these clowns
and the kids today dont understand that those 1989 playoff averages adjusted to league averages since the 2004 rule changes is 50/10+/10+
Two of the big narratives are that LBJ makes everyone else better, and always makes the right basketball play…if true, then by that logic it should be all his fault when they lose
I’m from Germany, I saw Jordan Live twice in Chicago in 1997 and follow the league since 1993.
I've never seen a player in professional sport with that killer instinct since.
Yeah Kobe was near that level, but then…
You can compare stats for days, but HOW you win games is a different story.
Jordan has not allowed himself to lose in crucial games and has demanded this attitude from his teammates.
He was the best leader you can imagine and at the same time the most feared opponent ever.
No question whose the GOAT
Man, I remember that 89 playoff run like it was yesterday. MJ was in full god mode!
He definitely was especially the 1st 2 rounds. Having games like 40pts 15rb and 9 assist
The only time MJ was at fault for losing a series was against Orlando when he came back from retirement. But the moment he found his grove again he swept the Magic.
He didn't make excuses for that either
The next year he scored 45 point on them in the playoffs because they said they was not scared of the number 45, which made MJ go back to 23.
@@christophershenton899he wasn’t at fault. Without Jordan back that team doesn’t get nearly that far.
If Scottie Pippen was carrying Jordan in 1989, then Dante DiVincenzo is definitely carrying Jalen Brunson.
They definitely push and paid analyst to push LeDiva you can see it
Windhorst, Nick Wright, Shannon Sharpe and Kendrick Perkins.
@@KNByam yup that’s them that’s why I don’t watch any fake sports media platforms or sports they all reading a script
The only reason LeShannon on Brunson is because he wants Brunson to carry Lebron in NY😂😂😂
We need to get rid of the Mainstream Sports media and flush Klutch Sports out of the sports and entertainment agency.
One thing to add that I don't see many people mention; In his time as a Bull, Jordan never missed the playoffs. Not even once.
I played pick up basketball last night and seriously had a 17 year old telling me that Anthony Edwards was the best player in the league and that Lebron was the GOAT because Jordan could not go left.
That's cause he didn't watch Jordan play.. and lebalco fans just take other fans words for it instead of actually going back & watching the games..
You should have asked him did he see the baseline dunk on Ewing. The one he spun out of a trap. He did that with left before dunk
They saying MJ didn't have a jumpshot? His fadeaway mid game was his go-to when he got older and had to bulk up vs Pistons
LeFlop will NEVER be MJ. Too many of us were actually there to see him. No matter how much LeFraud pays his talking heads.😂
If you have to solicit you aren't it.
What’s always been crazy to me is that Sharpe was around in that era of basketball. I wonder what he thought of Jordan at that time as those feats were happening live.
Those who are done with the “90’s are gonna be shocked to find out that Anthony Edwards plays like a “90’s player his body language is very much “90. I’m excited to see what he does cause he’s give that crowd who has never watch 90’s nba players, a glimpse of the skills the 90’s players had.
Sharpe is disgusting. Ya need to get paid, Shae? Not rich enough? Come on... This is ridiculous.
Great 👍🏽 information bro . Most of the kids now and days just started watching the NBA in like 2016
I’d love to see a vid about top playoff performances that did not lead to a ring. Those MJ stats seem legendary to me.
You watch MJ play in the 90’s and you can see he was trying to win. He was playing JUST AS HARD ON DEFENSE as he does on offense. Brunson is not only not capable of that type of sustained defense but neither was iverson. The effort and ability was insane on defense all day
Shannon Sharpe knows what he is talking about, he was the point guard at a diddy freakout.
Absolutely spot on, why does he keep going to super teams every time he starts losing again. He knows he can’t win there, and will go somewhere else. Media is horrible
40+ point games doesn't impress me in the modern NBA. It's an offensive league. The rules and the officiating is heavily tilted towards the offense. Just like the NFL. If you took a shot every time a player traveled in contemporary hoops you'd have alcohol poisoning by halftime.
Jordan wasn't the reason they lost... Larry was the reason they lost
I can't stand Shannon. What they never tell you is Jordan had nobody else and had to go against the 76ers, Celtics and the Pistons.
9:17 you wild 😂😂 Brunson measured in at 6’1 with no shoes at the combine 😭😭
How come Jalen LeBrunson (not a GOAT candidate) can carry a team while injured, but LeChoke cannot while healthy...........hmmm...........
lol...the Jordan stare down after he made that bucket on Zeke.
To think that people believed that the Knicks overplayed to sign Brunson.
Keep exposing 'em!
that dunk at 6:17 my lord
I just love the fact that your talking about Jalen in the same as The 🐐 😂😂😂
Those clutch sports checks starting to bounce
All chant LeBalco in all nba arenas!!!
Klutch Sports pays ESPN and I am pretty sure they pay Google and Meta as well. I’ve had threads here on youtube where I am critical of Lebron but in a measured tone yet I can no longer clap back at the Lebron fanboys. This happens often on ESPN’s channel. Their whole agenda is to prop up Lebron and create false narratives.
It ain’t over yet 😂 more stuff will come out about this guy 🤦🏾♂️
Great breakdown you showed the difference 👍
Lebron dealing with scrutiny under the social media era. We’ll never see someone handle it as well ever again
I’m a Knick fan ( since 1973 ) what Brunson is doing is historic . He’s wearing the heaviest jersey in the NBA and he is the one!!! ( KD & Kyrie didn’t want that heat ) he put the city on his back, but to turn around and downplay Jordan???? Like he ran from team to team to join up with other stars ⭐️ Is ridiculous
Darvin Ham was a scapegoat
MJ would have 10 championships if AD was on his squad
That’s why Shaq smothered him when Shannon said he was salty for Jokic’s MVP. Shaq said if you’re not even in the top 10, you don’t have the right to talk about him hahahaha!
Remember that 2001 Allen Iverson still had the DPOTY, Sixth Man of The Year, and Coach of The Year on that team. He was the best player but not completely alone.
What's disturbing is how the NBA is allowing Klutch sports to run the NBA. Going as far as texting voters to name Lebron the MVP. David Stern would never have allowed this mess. Adam Silver is a complete push over and doesn't know how to run an organization.
Brunson has not even been to the finals and Shannon says Iverson🤣
Destroying the business of basketball.
If steph would've had this year Lakers they would've been at least the 6 seed
Idk which is more shocking, this news or Uncut Hoops not starting the video with "when it comes to..."
Isaiah Thomas with the Celtics was the last magnificent small guard carrying his team.
SHANNON who??? oh! the CLOWN🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bron been out my top 10 for a while now I can’t respect a player that carries them selfs like this it’s a joke, No integrity no respect for the game and it’s legacy and past players.
Oh no! An agent is lobbying for his client to be MVP!?!?
And what did Pippien win without Jordan
Lebron is the biggest cry baby the nba has ever seen! Let’s start talking about these young stars instead.
It took Pippen two years before he put up respectable stats and even then he still was nothing special.
Jordan is why peeps started watching basketball.
What is there to watch with Lebron.
Lool at the NBA ratings
Keep knocking out these truth videos on these ignorant LeBron fans who would rather read and laugh at a meme than use another 5 minutes to research it. We used to laugh at the phrase "its on the internet. It must be true" but I never would have imagined that people would actual live their life by this phase now 🙄
All Jordan did was win win win win win win.
Except the 9 seasons where he didn't win win win
I wanted to see the Brunson v A.I. comparison.
As a marketing organization Klutch sports struggles with the problem of having an inferior product. If your product is inferior you have to try to diminish the competitions product to try to compete. It is such a tragedy that Klutch sports has a top product that is the least clutch of any superstar short of maybe Harden. Should have looked at their product and picked a more appropriate name. Maybe something like Drama Sports.