Disagree. Ceiling does not just equal athleticism. Some of the best players ever: Duncan, steph, kobe, bird, magic, jokic. None are unique athletes and I'd say their ceiling is pretty damn high. Ceiling, more than anything, is determined by your ability to create. If you can't create shots for yourself (I'm not saying thompson can't, but his shot is really bad right now, and his bag consists of driving forward full speed. Not much nuance), you can't make it as a true #1. The ceiling for guys that can't create is a klay Thompson or a Dwight Howard.
Amen being in the 1% of athleticism already gives him a huge advantage on both sides of the ball. If he becomes just a leauge average shooter and develop a consistent floater game and you add how great he could become as a point of attack defender he could be a special player in the next 4 years.
Amen has crazy athletic traits, and I’d have him as the most athletic player in the NBA right now. His 3/4 sprint would be the fastest In over a decade, his standing vertical would also be the best in the nba for over 15 years. His lane agility and reaction drills would both be considered top 7 in the NBA right now. His 44 inch max vertical puts him at the 99.9 percentile putting him in classes with players like Zion, Morant, Green, And Sharpe. He is the most coordinated and controlled athlete I’ve seen in years. The change of direction in his euro is insane also. All while he’s 6’7 with a 7 Foot wingspan and a 44 inch vertical
@@81ELDINbro same. I thought all these overtime elite players were gimmicks. Most of them take alot of time to adjust to high level nba play but the Thompson’s picked it up quickly
man theres some scary up and coming teams in the west with a ton of young talent like the thunder, wolves, and rockets. the athleticism on all those teams is ridiculous.
I’m loving my Jaime on my team but man amen has been my favorite the whole year even before the draft bro has so much ability to become something great really excited for his future in the league
Ik pple call Ant the closest to Michael Jordan in terms of overall athleticism and athletic style, but after watching Amen and Ausar (especially Amen) I think it’s these two for sure they are also the closest to Jordan’s build too
him and his brother are uber athletic in a league where just about everyone can jump! the way they move and get off the ground stands out! even in the NBA!
@@xavwill4807def amen brooks don’t have the tools for that the twins some of the most physically gifted players ever and it shows on defense they can stay infront of the quickest/shiftiest players , block shots and rebound like big men and then play passing lanes like a all pro DB
I really like Houston's nucleous of Sengun, Whitmore, Van Fleet and Amen. Not so sure about Jalen Green though. So bad that Amen's shooting is broken... If not for that he could be a star.
Amen and Ausar are absolutely S+ tier athletes, and Amen is *arguably* the best athlete in the NBA. However, I believe that distinction goes to Jonathan Kuminga. From a speed/quickness/vertical standpoint he's basically identical to Amen, but he's *substantially* stronger.
Kuminga not as athletic as amen , amen way too twitchy he can’t decel like that, and amen gets off the floor way easier especially standing , amen way faster in the open court
@@FTO9797 I think you gotta watch more Kuminga if you think any of that is true. I do think Amen has some advantages over Kuminga. He has a better nose for the ball, better Eurostep footwork, and is a better screen navigator on defense, but he has precisely zero *athletic* advantages over Kuminga except for MAYBE body control through contact.
@@DaggerMan11 lmao dude u really think he faster than amen amen is one of the fastest players in the league but we’ll see, this will be the consensus in the future with more Pt
4+ ORBs per 75 for a rookie G/F is absolutely bonkers. Is it too early to say his motor is reminiscent of Westbrook? Bc in terms of how dedicated the kid is to trying to do the right things every possession and consistently putting in the most effort of anyone on the court is hopefully a sign of what’s to come for his game for his career. Especially as he gets more experience and tightens up his efficiency in terms of outside shooting and taking care of the ball, he has a lot of promise to go alongside his physical tools
watching, Amen does look more athletic and it was said that he was a tiny bit more athletic when they were in the draft, Amen is a bit faster, a bit stronger and just a tiny bit more explosive
“Most athletic rookie ever” is beyond a stretch. Shaq weighed 285 at 7’1 and ran the floor like the Greek Freak & to keep it closer in times John Wall & D.Rose 🌹 were definitely in a class of their own in terms of athleticism and court vision and I definitely left out way more names
Wanted the Nets to draft up for him so bad. Idk if the Rockets get what they have. Good coaching for a skilled Uber athlete and you have potentially the best player in the league. There’s plays only he can make and if his game fills out Jesus .
at least a handful of travels here. His change of direction is unreal different - you don't need athleticism to be great at start/stop and lateral movement, Luka is one of the best if not the best when it comes to that but this dude seems to just move like a speeding bullet wherever he wants without slowing down or losing his handle he's so athletic that it just kind of doesn't process just watching a few plays on a screen. He's kind of just always moving differently to the point of not sticking out or being ultra-highlight worthy. No dramatic launches where all of a sudden he's turning the springs on for a poster, it's just effortless physicality i cant wait to see this dude's development though, he's got unlimited potential. would love to have a crystal ball and see this dude year 3 or 4 of his career
that's one of kobe's strength too the ability to stop and start, so whenever he does that and then suddenly make a shot fake u bet the one who's guarding him will bite that fake and it will be a easy jumpshot for him
I mean if you could 3D print the prototype for the best basketball player of all time, it would be the Thompson twins. They are seem genetically engineered to be basketball demis.
Ant a better athlete in my opinion. Lebron, Zion and Ant type of calibre of athletes will always the best type of athlete. Those type of athletes who have big frames combined with strength, quickness, explosion, touch and body control, as well as crazy bounce. Will always be the best version of any athlete in my opinion
I knew once he got sometime he’d flourish. The early takes on him all trash. The rookies need playing time to develop. Houston is the “Dumpster Fire”, not New York. Because lil bro was getting playing time in Detroit. The Knicks could be a future home for either. These dudes are that gifted, you couldn’t lose. They get you stats across the board. They are rotting but learning the ropes on their perspective teams. I’m glad he’s getting some shine now👈🏿🫡
He does need to develop a jumpshot to be top 5 in the league. But he can be an all star wo a jumper. He can be like Zion (wo the strength). I know that sounds like an off comp, but is it really?
Its between the twins, cam whitmore, shadeon sharp, jonothan sims KJ martin Fox Kuminga and Ja morant for the most athletic in the league 3 of them are rookies 😮😮😮😮 EDIT: OMG HOW DID I FORGET JALEN JOHNSONS he is a super athlete young Bron type
Because it is! 2 guys can both have a 48' vert but if one needs a longer load time/more steps to reach that apex, it's not as effective as someone who can just spring off the floor at a moment's notice.
@@HoopVenueliterally why derrick jones jr is not on the level of the twins and he jumps higher then both of them. His load up is much more exaggerated and easier to nullify with help defenders and even on ball defenders on his hips.
As a Sixers fan I remember Nerlans Noel during his rookie year and that dude had the freakiest bounce I may have ever saw. His 2nd and 3rd jumps were just as fast and high as high 1st.
Realistically, he is bad enough at shooting right now, that I think it would benefit him to completely rework his jumpshot. His base is never consistent and his shooting arm starts so far into his chest, there's no way he'll find genuine consistency. Even if it takes him years to truly rework it, I really don't know if it would be worse than what it is now. To add on, because he's so athletic and relies on it so heavily, if he doesn't build a solid jumper soon, one unfortunate injury could ruin his career.
He has Jordan-like athleticism but one ting that made MJ above other is the size of his hands. MJ damn near was born with an abnormality in terms of how big his hands were. IF Amen had MJ's hands he good be the best player in the NBA but he doesn't so he will have to settle for being an all-star! LOL
I wanted the Blazers to draft Amen at #3. I was really bummed when they didn't. I like Scoot, but I still think Amen is going to be the better player and at a position far more important to have that elite player.
Most athletic rookie ever??😂😂😂 Wilt Chamberlain? Bill Russell? Micheal Jordan? David Robinson? Artis Gilmore?Gus honeycomb Johnson? LeBron? Dennis rodman? Iverson? I could keep going🤦🏾♂️
@@jaywp2343 wym by twitch? Because Gus Johnson and Johny green were VERY explosive...wilt and bill were very agile as well ..if you watch young bill Russell he's a lot like giannis
@JohnnyRodgers3 I mean change of direction, the ability to stop on a dime and accelerate back to full speed. How fast he can jump off the floor. Bill Russell was a great athlete but if his comparison is giannis than he does not compare to amen as an athlete.
Amen is an absolute freak of nature and if not for Wemby will be looked at as having the highest ceiling in this draft class
I wouldn’t doubt it!
Looking like a 6'7 Ja Morant out there
Disagree. Ceiling does not just equal athleticism. Some of the best players ever: Duncan, steph, kobe, bird, magic, jokic. None are unique athletes and I'd say their ceiling is pretty damn high. Ceiling, more than anything, is determined by your ability to create. If you can't create shots for yourself (I'm not saying thompson can't, but his shot is really bad right now, and his bag consists of driving forward full speed. Not much nuance), you can't make it as a true #1. The ceiling for guys that can't create is a klay Thompson or a Dwight Howard.
westbrook 2.0
His ceiling is capped with that busted jump shot of his.
Calling Amen the best athlete when Davis Bertans exists is certainly a take
True, my bad
Davis Bertans really got bunnies like that?
And what about his brother asur
Amen more atheltic
🤣🤣🤣
Amen being in the 1% of athleticism already gives him a huge advantage on both sides of the ball. If he becomes just a leauge average shooter and develop a consistent floater game and you add how great he could become as a point of attack defender he could be a special player in the next 4 years.
Definitely all star potential, both him and his brother could make a great impact on a championship team
Both Amen and Ausar can be all defense candidates 1 day if and when their teams start winning and they make an impact.
ausar ill be there this year men maybe year 3 because they wont respect it bc of his passing and finishing
Amen has crazy athletic traits, and I’d have him as the most athletic player in the NBA right now. His 3/4 sprint would be the fastest In over a decade, his standing vertical would also be the best in the nba for over 15 years. His lane agility and reaction drills would both be considered top 7 in the NBA right now. His 44 inch max vertical puts him at the 99.9 percentile putting him in classes with players like Zion, Morant, Green, And Sharpe. He is the most coordinated and controlled athlete I’ve seen in years. The change of direction in his euro is insane also. All while he’s 6’7 with a 7 Foot wingspan and a 44 inch vertical
He's absolutely remarkable!!
Its crazy how Amen and Ausar are both such freakishly athletic twins. Kinda cool to have in the nba Ausar for defense Amen for offense
THOMPSON TWINS 2 OF MY FAVE PLAYERS RN🤩🤩
Their demeanor and mentality says they will be good in the league for a very long time.
It’s crazy cause I thought they were going to be busts , but then instantly proved me wrong and both instantly became my favorites to watch 😭
@@81ELDINbro same. I thought all these overtime elite players were gimmicks. Most of them take alot of time to adjust to high level nba play but the Thompson’s picked it up quickly
Amen improves his outside game. The future for the league gonna be spooky.
The Thompson twins have a 90 standing dunk as wing players
Actually wild lmao
And I think one of them played point guard
Yea but they 3 ball a 25
@@DeZenter Amen is the better playmaker, so it was probably him
@@DeZenter it was amen
God help the league if the Thompson twins develop reliable jumpers
Reminds me of David Thompson who I saw many times in Denver in the late 70's
Skywalker!
not having them on a rising stars team together or in the skills challenge was dirty work
Definitely Ausar was snubbed
Amen Thompson slowly but surely IMPROVE HIS GAME 💪🔥💪
man theres some scary up and coming teams in the west with a ton of young talent like the thunder, wolves, and rockets. the athleticism on all those teams is ridiculous.
Honestly I watched him play live, and I was shocked with his vertical jump and speed.
I enjoy watching these insights of players I don’t have the time to analyze myself, keep up the work brotha
Soon the starting backcourt for Houston will be Amen and Cam. Hope Amen works hard on his shooting during the offseason.
Get rid of jalen green man while he still have some kind of value maybe a team will overvalue him because of his "potential"
Cam barely getting playing time 🤣🤣
I’m loving my Jaime on my team but man amen has been my favorite the whole year even before the draft bro has so much ability to become something great really excited for his future in the league
Ik pple call Ant the closest to Michael Jordan in terms of overall athleticism and athletic style, but after watching Amen and Ausar (especially Amen) I think it’s these two for sure they are also the closest to Jordan’s build too
You know I enjoyed this! Spot on bro 🚀🚀🚀
This is getting out of hand! Now there are two of them!
2:30 I have saw other youtuber calling this ball “Three” step europe step, it’s impressive
He's looking like a young Dream on defense, defending the entire other team some possessions.
I can see him becoming a pass first, more athletic version of SGA.
to do that he needs atleast a midrange bare minimum
This comp isn’t really good lol. Philly Ben Simmons is a lot more comparable imo
Nah SGA has a crazy handle, and a great mid range.
SGA best ability is his pace its almost impossible to teach that
@@venod3134its really just his pace and burst he's a sneaky athlete
him and his brother are uber athletic in a league where just about everyone can jump! the way they move and get off the ground stands out! even in the NBA!
Amén plays today 🙏
Was telling people people the draft that the twins were some of the most athletic players ever
That Jeff green pass is one of the craziest “something out of nothing” plays I’ve ever seen (at 4:56)
I think if Amen starts alongside of Jalen or Cam, Amen would make both that much better than they already are
Future is bright in Houston!
Already the best defender on the rockets
🤔
Brooks
@@xavwill4807def amen brooks don’t have the tools for that the twins some of the most physically gifted players ever and it shows on defense they can stay infront of the quickest/shiftiest players , block shots and rebound like big men and then play passing lanes like a all pro DB
@@xavwill4807not that good, Tari is closer to Amen than him
either Amen or Tari
He'd be unstoppable like SGA if he develops a consistent jumper
I really like Houston's nucleous of Sengun, Whitmore, Van Fleet and Amen. Not so sure about Jalen Green though. So bad that Amen's shooting is broken... If not for that he could be a star.
Green may have very high trade value. The Rockets are on to something great in the near future. Maybe 2 more years away from contention.
@@venod3134 Yeah... I think they should consider trading him. I don't like what I've seen so far.
This didn’t age well
@@Kurtboss74 Apparently not! We'll see... Really hope JG becomes a great player. Again... only time will tell.
His brother is the same level athlete its crazy 😮
Amen and Ausar are absolutely S+ tier athletes, and Amen is *arguably* the best athlete in the NBA. However, I believe that distinction goes to Jonathan Kuminga. From a speed/quickness/vertical standpoint he's basically identical to Amen, but he's *substantially* stronger.
Kuminga not as athletic as amen , amen way too twitchy he can’t decel like that, and amen gets off the floor way easier especially standing , amen way faster in the open court
@@FTO9797 I think you gotta watch more Kuminga if you think any of that is true. I do think Amen has some advantages over Kuminga. He has a better nose for the ball, better Eurostep footwork, and is a better screen navigator on defense, but he has precisely zero *athletic* advantages over Kuminga except for MAYBE body control through contact.
@@DaggerMan11kuminga not close he’s just bigger
@@FTO9797 that's disingenuous, brother. you got it
@@DaggerMan11 lmao dude u really think he faster than amen amen is one of the fastest players in the league but we’ll see, this will be the consensus in the future with more Pt
Great analysis!
that 3p form, omg lol :D its something like a underhand throwish like you would throw something to the bin at 1ft from the bin
4+ ORBs per 75 for a rookie G/F is absolutely bonkers. Is it too early to say his motor is reminiscent of Westbrook? Bc in terms of how dedicated the kid is to trying to do the right things every possession and consistently putting in the most effort of anyone on the court is hopefully a sign of what’s to come for his game for his career. Especially as he gets more experience and tightens up his efficiency in terms of outside shooting and taking care of the ball, he has a lot of promise to go alongside his physical tools
Amen Thompson is just a nba globetrotter
Becoming one of my favorite players
very good video!
We saw all of this at OTE last season
love how u break down and analyze players game bro...
check out Coby White he a Killa!
with his skills I would say,"AMEN".
Ausar is just a tiny bit more athletic than Amen. They share the same genetic blueprint after all.
watching, Amen does look more athletic and it was said that he was a tiny bit more athletic when they were in the draft, Amen is a bit faster, a bit stronger and just a tiny bit more explosive
Certa de vigo
Not sure about that. As a Pistons fan
Uncle Jeff is the perfect guy for all them puppies on that Houston team
we need Thompson twins and Shaedon Sharpe in next years dunk contest
Twins gotta do the dunk contest
amen to that i guess
does the goat reply?
Yessir!
You called for me?
“Most athletic rookie ever” is beyond a stretch. Shaq weighed 285 at 7’1 and ran the floor like the Greek Freak & to keep it closer in times John Wall & D.Rose 🌹 were definitely in a class of their own in terms of athleticism and court vision and I definitely left out way more names
I mean they all had their own strengths. He’s definitely in the same class even though he might not as a player.
The Rockets have a bright future. Amen, Sengun, Cam, and Jabari can be a great young core to build around
Jabari is trash 🗑️.. u need to stop bruh
you forgot Tari
future face of the league.
bronny got that bounce too
What do you expect from a son of one of the most athletic basketball player
Slow motion footage of Amen in the air is different. Really weird. Like when we watched space jam and like mike.
Insane title when you know Kyle Anderson still exists
You’re right, my bad.
In the future Amen and Cam will lead the starting line up with Sengun/JSJ with a veteran PG.
Jalen Green will be a great 6th man for the Rockets.
JG is never playing 6th man on the rockets he’ll get traded b4 that. Also you didn’t mention Eason in the starting lineup which is crazy
Apparently you have never heard of the White Mamba 🤔
If the Thompson‘s get a jumpshot it’s over
Wanted the Nets to draft up for him so bad. Idk if the Rockets get what they have. Good coaching for a skilled Uber athlete and you have potentially the best player in the league. There’s plays only he can make and if his game fills out Jesus .
9:26 is smoooooooth....
“Amen Thompson might be the most athletic rookie ever..”
“He’s not even the most athletic Thompson Twin!” - Ausar Thompson, probably 😂
He's faster, quicker and jumps higher than his brother
He would bee great in golden state...
What are your thoughts on Julian Phillips?
at least a handful of travels here. His change of direction is unreal different - you don't need athleticism to be great at start/stop and lateral movement, Luka is one of the best if not the best when it comes to that but this dude seems to just move like a speeding bullet wherever he wants without slowing down or losing his handle
he's so athletic that it just kind of doesn't process just watching a few plays on a screen. He's kind of just always moving differently to the point of not sticking out or being ultra-highlight worthy. No dramatic launches where all of a sudden he's turning the springs on for a poster, it's just effortless physicality
i cant wait to see this dude's development though, he's got unlimited potential. would love to have a crystal ball and see this dude year 3 or 4 of his career
Gather steps. When he travels he gets called for it. They don't let rookies get away with that too much.
They should trade Jalen Green for his brother
Pistons not accepting that trade. Even though it's not bad. But Ansur is a key piece.
I knew I wasn’t trim every time I use to watch they highlights I use ta be like deez big mfs quick n got bunnies my bro 6’6 n ain dare movin like dat
that's one of kobe's strength too the ability to stop and start, so whenever he does that and then suddenly make a shot fake u bet the one who's guarding him will bite that fake and it will be a easy jumpshot for him
Wasn't Dante Exum at 6"6 like him before his injuries and became a journeyman?
😂😂😂 you ARE joking, right? 😐
@@jaycurry5593 nope... Exum got to injured he was a high pick with upside that never materialized
I think the Rockets are building some very sillier to the timberwolves
One of those players that could’ve played any sport
I mean if you could 3D print the prototype for the best basketball player of all time, it would be the Thompson twins. They are seem genetically engineered to be basketball demis.
Hes the better twin lets be honest
Ooh is it? so he's gonna be the finals MVP right? RIGHT?!!!
Anthony Edwards?
Definitely in that discussion, he’s ridiculous.
Ant a better athlete in my opinion. Lebron, Zion and Ant type of calibre of athletes will always the best type of athlete. Those type of athletes who have big frames combined with strength, quickness, explosion, touch and body control, as well as crazy bounce. Will always be the best version of any athlete in my opinion
I knew once he got sometime he’d flourish.
The early takes on him all trash.
The rookies need playing time to develop.
Houston is the “Dumpster Fire”, not New York.
Because lil bro was getting playing time in Detroit.
The Knicks could be a future home for either.
These dudes are that gifted, you couldn’t lose.
They get you stats across the board.
They are rotting but learning the ropes on their perspective teams.
I’m glad he’s getting some shine now👈🏿🫡
1:49 is definately traveling
He does need to develop a jumpshot to be top 5 in the league. But he can be an all star wo a jumper. He can be like Zion (wo the strength). I know that sounds like an off comp, but is it really?
LOL just got BEASTED by the Pelicans
smothering them with his what?????😦 8:25
Its between the twins, cam whitmore, shadeon sharp, jonothan sims KJ martin Fox Kuminga and Ja morant for the most athletic in the league 3 of them are rookies 😮😮😮😮
EDIT: OMG HOW DID I FORGET JALEN JOHNSONS he is a super athlete young Bron type
He's the new Russ if you think about it super athletic can't shoot..Just needs to work on his playmaking more and can have a long career
why are you talking about speed of jump as something different than vertical?
Because it is! 2 guys can both have a 48' vert but if one needs a longer load time/more steps to reach that apex, it's not as effective as someone who can just spring off the floor at a moment's notice.
@@HoopVenueliterally why derrick jones jr is not on the level of the twins and he jumps higher then both of them. His load up is much more exaggerated and easier to nullify with help defenders and even on ball defenders on his hips.
Great callout.
As a Sixers fan I remember Nerlans Noel during his rookie year and that dude had the freakiest bounce I may have ever saw. His 2nd and 3rd jumps were just as fast and high as high 1st.
Just delete this bro 🤦🏾♂️
Javon is head and shoulders above the rest. Hopefully the Rockets will get him.
Realistically, he is bad enough at shooting right now, that I think it would benefit him to completely rework his jumpshot. His base is never consistent and his shooting arm starts so far into his chest, there's no way he'll find genuine consistency. Even if it takes him years to truly rework it, I really don't know if it would be worse than what it is now.
To add on, because he's so athletic and relies on it so heavily, if he doesn't build a solid jumper soon, one unfortunate injury could ruin his career.
Hard to see and understand speed when you keep slowing down the footage….
You spelled Ausar wrong buddy lol
I honestly think his brother is a better athlete from watching both. Both are insane but Ausar just looks a bit more fluid
He has Jordan-like athleticism but one ting that made MJ above other is the size of his hands. MJ damn near was born with an abnormality in terms of how big his hands were. IF Amen had MJ's hands he good be the best player in the NBA but he doesn't so he will have to settle for being an all-star! LOL
Dude there are two dude who are way more athletic just on his own team, one being a rookie himself.
W
I wanted the Blazers to draft Amen at #3. I was really bummed when they didn't. I like Scoot, but I still think Amen is going to be the better player and at a position far more important to have that elite player.
With all those that hype this dude is traveling and carrying every minute on the floor 😅😅😅
your mama's traveling and carrying
Zion is when healthy 😂
lost on how this is a song n yall talking bout basketball
Anthony Edwards is the best athlete in the NBA bro let's be real 💯😂
His brother is more athletic? He's more skilled no argument that
Amen and FVV should start together. He is much much much better prospect than Jalen.
Zion?
Most athletic rookie ever??😂😂😂 Wilt Chamberlain? Bill Russell? Micheal Jordan? David Robinson? Artis Gilmore?Gus honeycomb Johnson? LeBron? Dennis rodman? Iverson? I could keep going🤦🏾♂️
Those were great run and jump guys but they dnt have the twitch and quickness he has. He has derrick rose type twitch at 6"7
@@jaywp2343 wym by twitch? Because Gus Johnson and Johny green were VERY explosive...wilt and bill were very agile as well ..if you watch young bill Russell he's a lot like giannis
@JohnnyRodgers3 I mean change of direction, the ability to stop on a dime and accelerate back to full speed. How fast he can jump off the floor. Bill Russell was a great athlete but if his comparison is giannis than he does not compare to amen as an athlete.
Umm….his teammate might be better and even younger: Cam Whitmore!
I did a video on him as well! Love his game.
3:23 doesn't even look like a real basketball play wtffff