Man! A 4104 is my life goal right now! Great timing on the video. I'm almost 40, divorced ase certified auto tech. Built my life back up this last year after getting out of a toxic marriage... Live in a decent older TT but I'm working hard to be able to afford a 4104 I can convert to live in. Your videos give me hope that they can still be found and made reliable. ❤️
As a retired truck driver, locomotive engineer I never took over a set of power or drove a truck until I checked coolant level, oil level and sand level on locomotives. Never trust Father Time, even if you drove it the day before always check under the hood. I reported for a pusher assignment in Pittsfield one Saturday during a heat wave daytime temperatures rarely below 95 to pick up an SD40-2 to push trains over the mountain from both sides but even though the dispatcher wanted us on the move east I insisted I check her over as she was shut down. Glad I did because it was drained of coolant, plain old water with and anti rust compound added to the cooling system. Fortunately we were opposit the yard office with a 100 foot line from the outside garden hose facet but the cooling system holds 450 gallons. We finally headed east 45 minutes later due to low water pressure. This was back in 1974 the engines were painted black without and air conditioning I miss the old days.
This just shows G.M. made some darn good buses in its coach days. Those Detroit two strokes aren't so bad as many think they are. New seals, sulfur taken out of the fuel, the right injectors and the rack set up right, these engines do just fine. No smoke seen out of the tail pipe. Many other buses weren't built as good as the G.M. coaches and got a lot of ' rattles' in them, especially going over R.R. tracks.
I have some 4103, 4104, scenic cruiser, and other repair manuals from Greyhound with wiring diagram changes over the years and Greyhound upgrades I use to work on buses in Dallas Texas for a gentleman that worked for Greyhound many years He gave me these manuals I would like for them to go to someone that restores these old buses
When you have to be stopped next to the highway and are working on the road side of the bus, I would suggest that you park another vehicle on the solid line and rumble strip right behind the bus to protect yourselves from errant and/or inattentive drivers and their vehicles.
The old girl sounded happy coming up the road to her new home! Like Lenny, she just wants to run. Thanks for saving her. I used to love driving these old buses back in the day.
So exciting for everyone that is, you, Tyler, your daughter and her husband that you have the bus. Exciting for us your viewers as I know I have been waiting for this series of video's.
Glad you got the bus home ok! That air problem could have really put a damper on things if that tank was really bad, glad it was able to be patched enough to get it home.
Can’t get over how quick that thing fired up…and no smoke! Those tires….wow! Lends new meaning to the phrase “Crack kills”…… Looks like somebody already started the conversion. Rooftop air units and blanked out windows..
I love the suspense. Here we have a sweet 4104 that's been sittin in the grass for 20 years, and our intrepid Bus Grease Monkey crew here to rescue her and bring her back to BGM WORLD HEADQUARTERS. Will she make it back to BGMHQ under her own power? Will she hold air? Will she keep her cool under the withering oppressive heat? All these questions and MORE will be answered in this installment of Bus Grease Monkey! She's a beauty, can't wait to see you your magic on her, good luck.
Scott, In the future rubber tie downs fill in when necessary for missing/broken springs and are cheap and easy to find as most truck stops have them in stock. Food for thought
Awesome bus. Noticed a door under the drivers area flapping open. Looks like it's gonna take some time. Motor sounds weak on start up. Get your young-in working it. Time to get HER hands dirty!
FWIW - I spotted a former Greyhound Aerocoach silverside on way home yesterday. I estimate it being built around early 1940's just guessing. This one looks similar to the PD3751. The Chicago built Aerocoach was operated by Greyhound Lines, Cardinal Lines, and Gray Lines. This one appears to be either 33'ft or 35'ft long. It is sitting on N.W. corner lot of U.S.36 and C.R.725E approximately 5-miles east of Bainbridge, Indiana or 10-miles due west of Danville, IN. It's the road that leads into Heritage Lake. I got a couple of still photos of it and thought that would make somebody a nice RV conversion project. It's rough but looks intact.
A suggestion from a experienced coach driver, never trust the speedo in a coach. Use a GPS like a Garmin ( not a phone) which has a speedo on the navigation screen. Boy , that 1/2 wheel steering slack brings back memories ( not good ones ) of the old days!
I found a 57 not far from me, guy wants 10K for it. It is still a bus with seats. My wife thinks I'm crazy, but I sure would love to have it, the 671 still runs, but he said the blower needs to be resealed, and one of the brake pods is bad, that is what he told me. Is 10K too much? It has a dent at the top of the roof at the back, so I would have to take out part of the inside to straighten it, at least one one window has bullet holes in it. The story he gave me was that it was used from 57 to 83, at which time a high school used it from 83 to 2014, and then a private owner purchased it, and that is who he got it from. I'd like to have a bigger bus, but this one keeps calling me, don't know what to do, 10K is a lot to give, when there is probably several thousand to get it roadworthy and safe, before I could even begin the conversion.
Could it be upgraded with a larger engine? Also it is a standard, how hard would it be to put an Allison in there, and hook it up? I'm new to this, so just thinking out loud.
You can use a long handle shovel as a poor man's tire caddy. Just put shovel under tire and use handle to maneuver it. Shovel slids over gravel very easy.
Man, I love watching your vids... They really make me miss my poor old 4905A that burned up in the house fire, but I'm quite happy with my new-to-me H3-45. I really would like to bring it to you at some point once I'm recovered from this surgery and have some cash flow again. Do you even look at/work on the newer-ish coaches? Or do you pretty much just stick to the old timers like these? Just curious... Thanks!
@@BusGreaseMonkey Awesome. Sorry, I neglected to add the year of my coach... it's a 2000 model. :) Once I'm nearing a point where I can travel with it again, I'll inquire with specific details of what I'm looking for from ya and we can go from there! :) Again, thank you for publishing your "tricks of the trade" in many cases, you've given me a lot of information will make things a ton easier in the long run! Thanks again!
Actually Loretta Lynn’s ranch is where a lot of national Motorcross events are held. Been there several times over the years. Yes it’s kinda cheesy but host good events.
Engine sounded so sweet at start up and she seemed to have a friendly ambience about her, would you not prefer her softer air suspension to your faithful leaf sprung friend ?
What is that little square thing up on that back area beside the back window? I think there is one on both sides. I'm not sure where that hole was you fixed on the side of the road. Is that an air tank? You should really carry emergency triangles for when you have to pull over like that!
How much is one of them that's running and driving. What do thy go for. There is 2 down the street from my house one has a great big Chrome Eagle on the front
I’ve watched your videos for a few years now. Ballpark price wise what can you get one of these for in decent shape? There’s a lot to be said for old school busses.
I have followed your channel for years, please enable comments for the hearing impaired, don't know what extra work is involved but would appreciate it
I wonder if you guys have a different specification for diesel fuel in the US than we have here in uk? I’ve been running diesel cars and buses for 30 years here, and didn’t even know about the weird stuff that grows in the tank till I started watching your stuff.... I’ve certainly never seen it in any of my vehicles when I’ve done filter changes.
Very cool Scott you and Tyler did great how many miles was the trip? Looks like the old girl did well considering how long she sat. Can't wait to she the breakdown of what she needs in repairs. Thanks for sharing.
Man! A 4104 is my life goal right now! Great timing on the video. I'm almost 40, divorced ase certified auto tech. Built my life back up this last year after getting out of a toxic marriage... Live in a decent older TT but I'm working hard to be able to afford a 4104 I can convert to live in. Your videos give me hope that they can still be found and made reliable. ❤️
Good on ya, way to go, keep on keeping on, stay positive, encouragement, etc!!!!!
As a retired truck driver, locomotive engineer I never took over a set of power or drove a truck until I checked coolant level, oil level and sand level on locomotives.
Never trust Father Time, even if you drove it the day before always check under the hood. I reported for a pusher assignment in Pittsfield one Saturday during a heat wave daytime temperatures rarely below 95 to pick up an SD40-2 to push trains over the mountain from both sides but even though the dispatcher wanted us on the move east I insisted I check her over as she was shut down. Glad I did because it was drained of coolant, plain old water with and anti rust compound added to the cooling system. Fortunately we were opposit the yard office with a 100 foot line from the outside garden hose facet but the cooling system holds 450 gallons. We finally headed east 45 minutes later due to low water pressure. This was back in 1974 the engines were painted black without and air conditioning
I miss the old days.
👍 Nice to see you guys brought along your BEST camera person. She is REALLY missed…
This just shows G.M. made some darn good buses in its coach days. Those Detroit two strokes aren't so bad as many think they are. New seals, sulfur taken out of the fuel, the right injectors and the rack set up right, these engines do just fine. No smoke seen out of the tail pipe. Many other buses weren't built as good as the G.M. coaches and got a lot of ' rattles' in them, especially going over R.R. tracks.
Must be so good to have Tyler working with you to share the load. Bless you both.
Great to see your best camera operator on the the job with you!! Yay Kelly!
Another Bus in the family, Love their sound. Stay Safe from Canada
I have some 4103, 4104, scenic cruiser, and other repair manuals from Greyhound with wiring diagram changes over the years and Greyhound upgrades I use to work on buses in Dallas Texas for a gentleman that worked for Greyhound many years He gave me these manuals I would like for them to go to someone that restores these old buses
I'd love to get some legit manuals for my 55 4104 info is not easy to obtain
Do you still have them?
@@frednick5443 yes I should
When you have to be stopped next to the highway and are working on the road side of the bus, I would suggest that you park another vehicle on the solid line and rumble strip right behind the bus to protect yourselves from errant and/or inattentive drivers and their vehicles.
4104's are like a Timex watch They just keep ticking.
I’ll be in touch for some parts Luke. ;) you can start your list
@@BusGreaseMonkey Hope you don't wait until 3pm. LOL
Resealable boxes 📦 is what i need.
@@BusGreaseMonkey I will pack the morning order with a velcro lid. LOL
Thanks for tooling us down the road with this video
It's nice to watch the two of you working together! A good team, and you both seem to know what needs to be done and then get it done. Thanks..
Instead of a 'Hey Lance,' it will be a 'Hey Luke' moment!
The old girl sounded happy coming up the road to her new home! Like Lenny, she just wants to run. Thanks for saving her. I used to love driving these old buses back in the day.
That bus has a good new home.👍
Hi Scott and family that looks a nice bus will make a nice conversion looking forward to the next video thanks for including us in your travels
I like the look of the 4104’s. Looking forward to seeing the work on this one.
Good to see you back on the road again!
Nice to see you on the road again wrenching
So exciting for everyone that is, you, Tyler, your daughter and her husband that you have the bus. Exciting for us your viewers as I know I have been waiting for this series of video's.
I'm excited can't wait to see all the progress on this bus!!
What a great bus, no smoke and no puddles under it!
man that sounded great after a 20 year hibernation...amazingly well running machine. such a classic look bus
The contrast in the sound tracks between the bus and the Lexus lol.
You sir were doing more than 60 🤣
Yes mom informed me i was doing 70. Didn’t feel like it.
@@BusGreaseMonkey I spied 12R22.5's!
Glad you got the bus home ok! That air problem could have really put a damper on things if that tank was really bad, glad it was able to be patched enough to get it home.
thats going to be a great bus , shes a little dirty and in need of some work but its gonna be a peach !
Way to go Kelly, Scott, and Tyler, just knew you guys would get the bus home, nothing but the best working on it, looking forward to more videos
Can’t get over how quick that thing fired up…and no smoke! Those tires….wow! Lends new meaning to the phrase “Crack kills”……
Looks like somebody already started the conversion. Rooftop air units and blanked out windows..
Any idea when the last time Co-Op sold their own brand of tires was?
I like that it started with no problem and no smoke., sounds good
I love the suspense. Here we have a sweet 4104 that's been sittin in the grass for 20 years, and our intrepid Bus Grease Monkey crew here to rescue her and bring her back to BGM WORLD HEADQUARTERS. Will she make it back to BGMHQ under her own power? Will she hold air? Will she keep her cool under the withering oppressive heat? All these questions and MORE will be answered in this installment of Bus Grease Monkey! She's a beauty, can't wait to see you your magic on her, good luck.
Great project. Looking forward to following along.
I like that repair there to get you out of a sticky situation. Glad to see you made it.
Scott,
In the future rubber tie downs fill in when necessary for missing/broken springs and are cheap and easy to find as most truck stops have them in stock.
Food for thought
Nice, that sounds good.
Engine sounded healthy and it started up fast as well. 🙂
I can't believe it didn't smoke after sitting that long. That's awesome.
Awesome bus. Noticed a door under the drivers area flapping open. Looks like it's gonna take some time. Motor sounds weak on start up. Get your young-in working it. Time to get HER hands dirty!
On The Road again. Love it.
Awesome new bus!!
our play in the steering on our 4107 is about the same if not a little worse. Just keeps you on your toes.
Not bad for sitting 20 years!
FWIW - I spotted a former Greyhound Aerocoach silverside on way home yesterday. I estimate it being built around early 1940's just guessing. This one looks similar to the PD3751. The Chicago built Aerocoach was operated by Greyhound Lines, Cardinal Lines, and Gray Lines. This one appears to be either 33'ft or 35'ft long. It is sitting on N.W. corner lot of U.S.36 and C.R.725E approximately 5-miles east of Bainbridge, Indiana or 10-miles due west of Danville, IN. It's the road that leads into Heritage Lake. I got a couple of still photos of it and thought that would make somebody a nice RV conversion project. It's rough but looks intact.
That's what they call, " Prowler Steering ".
That is a nice bus. I wish back when i was younger i had got one. I love those old buss. Have fun with it.
Damn right..pull up to dates house dads would stroke out..
A suggestion from a experienced coach driver, never trust the speedo in a coach. Use a GPS like a Garmin ( not a phone) which has a speedo on the navigation screen. Boy , that 1/2 wheel steering slack brings back memories ( not good ones ) of the old days!
wow that is some windscreen scratch, still gotta get the job done
I'm really impressed on that Milwaukee tool for taking off those lug nuts. Nice job enjoy your video's
It is pretty awesome
Got brakes,still gonna drive it,such a sweetheart bus,cheers from australia
Love the rescue missions, 4104's one of my favorites
I bought some self tappers in Tucson last month. Label was in Spanish... they are known as "autoperforantes". I will forever call them that :)
Goodie, new rejuvenation project, excellent.
That bus is a runner. You sounded very excited about it.
glad you made it home ok
going to be fun to watch u work on this one, keep the videos coming
Looks like your son became a main stay of the crew!
Maybe Laura or lita for names. Since its your daughters bus. Keep the "L" theme going.
It sounds pretty good when it's wound up. Not smoking either.
I found a 57 not far from me, guy wants 10K for it. It is still a bus with seats. My wife thinks I'm crazy, but I sure would love to have it, the 671 still runs, but he said the blower needs to be resealed, and one of the brake pods is bad, that is what he told me. Is 10K too much? It has a dent at the top of the roof at the back, so I would have to take out part of the inside to straighten it, at least one one window has bullet holes in it. The story he gave me was that it was used from 57 to 83, at which time a high school used it from 83 to 2014, and then a private owner purchased it, and that is who he got it from. I'd like to have a bigger bus, but this one keeps calling me, don't know what to do, 10K is a lot to give, when there is probably several thousand to get it roadworthy and safe, before I could even begin the conversion.
Could it be upgraded with a larger engine? Also it is a standard, how hard would it be to put an Allison in there, and hook it up? I'm new to this, so just thinking out loud.
You can use a long handle shovel as a poor man's tire caddy. Just put shovel under tire and use handle to maneuver it. Shovel slids over gravel very easy.
Man, I love watching your vids... They really make me miss my poor old 4905A that burned up in the house fire, but I'm quite happy with my new-to-me H3-45. I really would like to bring it to you at some point once I'm recovered from this surgery and have some cash flow again. Do you even look at/work on the newer-ish coaches? Or do you pretty much just stick to the old timers like these? Just curious... Thanks!
We have a few H3-45 clients
@@BusGreaseMonkey Awesome. Sorry, I neglected to add the year of my coach... it's a 2000 model. :) Once I'm nearing a point where I can travel with it again, I'll inquire with specific details of what I'm looking for from ya and we can go from there! :) Again, thank you for publishing your "tricks of the trade" in many cases, you've given me a lot of information will make things a ton easier in the long run! Thanks again!
Wilton hammer. Nice!
Actually Loretta Lynn’s ranch is where a lot of national Motorcross events are held. Been there several times over the years. Yes it’s kinda cheesy but host good events.
Good looking 4104, I noticed a 2nd GM bus parked next to this one. Is it possible to get the serial numbers for both buses?
Another cool video.
Awesome
Nice bus😀
That 4104 she looks a bit tattered but by the seems of it some TLC and a good polish she will look good as new.
That Poor Baby just needed some TLC, to get Mobile...
Seems to Run pretty Smooth...
Couldn't BELIEVE the Dehydration on those Tires~Wow!!
< B-)
Another good video
My tires & tubes are doin' fine but the air is showin' thru... Hank Williams
Is that the new guest house on the side of the driveway? Lol
Basically a temporary Shed
Wow you could see the air in those tires.
Would you mind sending some of that rain to Arizona
Engine sounded so sweet at start up and she seemed to have a friendly ambience about her, would you not prefer her softer air suspension to your faithful leaf sprung friend ?
Brave man laying on the side of the road 😰
It was not my favorite thing to do
Scary cracks in the tires !!
What is that little square thing up on that back area beside the back window? I think there is one on both sides.
I'm not sure where that hole was you fixed on the side of the road. Is that an air tank?
You should really carry emergency triangles for when you have to pull over like that!
Wix Filter like derek uses...... nice to see great work ....
Is that a vent between the “D” window and the rear window? Nice bus!
I'd be afraid to stand next to those tires
Unbelievable old bus clocking 160 kmph wow
'em r sum real real gud tahrs there, pappy!
How much is one of them that's running and driving. What do thy go for. There is 2 down the street from my house one has a great big Chrome Eagle on the front
At 21:28, I wonder if that is the same tree that's been laying on the power line for.....weeks? Months?
More than a year But not powerlines. Phone
I’ve watched your videos for a few years now. Ballpark price wise what can you get one of these for in decent shape? There’s a lot to be said for old school busses.
Tosi mahtavan rakastettava bussi 🥰🥳💕💕💕💕
I have followed your channel for years, please enable comments for the hearing impaired, don't know what extra work is involved but would appreciate it
Where do you get bus tires? Are they basically semi truck tires?
Something very wrong with that bus........No smoke!!!!!
another 4104 with a propped up engine door?.....lolol........is this your daughters bus?
What torque specs are there for bud wheels? Love the Milwaukee. How do you find these great busses?
I wonder if you guys have a different specification for diesel fuel in the US than we have here in uk?
I’ve been running diesel cars and buses for 30 years here, and didn’t even know about the weird stuff that grows in the tank till I started watching your stuff....
I’ve certainly never seen it in any of my vehicles when I’ve done filter changes.
We suffer from that stuff in the UK as well. It tends to grow in fuel that isn't in use, but some folks are luckier than others in that respect.
Sweet
Very cool Scott you and Tyler did great how many miles was the trip? Looks like the old girl did well considering how long she sat. Can't wait to she the breakdown of what she needs in repairs.
Thanks for sharing.
Video description says 40 miles
How can a person get a hold of you for service I live in Beattyville, Kentucky 75 miles an Lexington Kentucky. Thank you I love your videos.
We are only working on vehicles here at our property outside if Nashville tn and only for Patreon members. www.patreon.com/busgreasemonkey
i want one but i live in the uk .
look at the rabbit drive that 4104
Tourist trap? Have you seen Ruby Falls?? lol
Do you need a CDL TO DRIVE THOSE?
theres one like this with a v8 detroit in it sitting at my friends junkyard. any small parts you need off of it?
Corner lights