Where's Heihachi? Corrections: This video was made before Harada made his Reina/Heihachi tweet. If you say that "She's a Mishima!!!", this means the baby was her mom & Heihachi is evil AF for that He's further infecting himself with the Devil gene since that was the point of having 20 kids after Kazumi, who's already Hachijo You put the normal Women at risk of being infected with the Devil gene as well if Heihachi was going to be infected by Kazumi/Reina's mom I renege on my Jack-7 comment being a nitpick. It's not a nitpick since Xiaoyu and the cast defending Jin & the world from a dictator is essential to the story & in-universe rules/logic. Base story review below: ruclips.net/video/NHYkORPCHmA/видео.html Thanks for watching!
@C.R.Cole331 I was too young to know about that, but I get the idea here given the context of this cluster cuss. I guess they like wasting money on the pretty graphics. No one is asking for a story-mode experience & that money could've gone towards making their game stable on day 1. It gets worse every patch & I haven't played in 7-months. (Played it pre-TK shop)
This was worse than Tekken 6 story, Tekken is a fighting game, ofc it dosen't have to be very story driven, but these retcons are annoying as real fuck. Like they could've easily sorted out the rivalry between Jin and Kazuya in the story DLCs and gave us Reina Vs Lars in Tekken 9 where Lars would've again become the protagonist of the game like T6. This story DLC made Tekken 7 pointless, and atp the lore of Tekken is a complete joke, the plot of Tekken was always decent, but still they could've done better. But because of those dumbass mains of Heihachi and desperation of devs, they brought Heihachi, couldn't they just gave the moves of Heihachi to Reina. The Tekken monks are said to be good people, so why tf they would save a threat like Heihachi.
@VishinSingh-bp3mz It makes the developers look like morons because: 1. You can make OVAs or something like that for entertainment purposes & marketing without thinking about the growing lore in the game if you don't want to make a story mode. Don't write it. (Multiple characters could shine here in theory) 2. This diaper DLC & base story are expensive to make, so I guess they're stupid & like to waste money and our time rather than be considerate to the narrative to generate organic, positive PR from the community. (Notice how Jin's TK3 tattoo is still on him even though he's "free" from the Devil gene; no, I don't like calling them stupid, etc.) 3. The monks are knuckleheads for saving that monster. If it was in their beliefs to redeem lost, people who lack a purpose & had a no-killing code, I'd almost buy that but there's no context to their beliefs as monks outside of mastering the Ultimate technique The story "doesn't matter," so instead of Jun & Kazuya having a normal conversation, I guess the 2 of them, Anna & Nina, can have a twerk-off at a beach since logic doesn't exist in TEKKEN lore & characterization doesn't have to be respected with Kazuya, Nina & Jun here. Anna is campy enough to do something like that.
"But it's free, tho!" And the DLC is still trash. I'm done. I don't want to see Asuka again because she'll continue to be mishandled. I don't want to see Kazuya again now that they made him dumber than MK1 Bi-Han, I don't want them to even TOUCH Anna (let at least one character I like retain some dignity). All I have to look forward to is this series continuing to turn its wheels and it to be mindless praised by the most gormless of fanbois purely because it is Tekken. The AsuLili rivalry won’t change Bryan vs Yoshimitsu won’t change Kazuya will continue being stupid Paul and Law will continue having their dignity chipped away Reina will eventually get sidelined (she cannot stand on her own with Heihachi back) I won’t miss anything.
@asm4991 "We just want to see the Mishima fights continue" even though the context is needed for fights and regression makes character interactions look like a parody of their more seasoned selves. Can't handle new characters moving the plot either because you get: A rare competent utility like Victor, A mediocre jester-like Azucena (notice how the "JOsIE RIzAl" replacement isn't supported in the marketing or by fans. Josie excelled here) A significant character like Reina, who was going to either stumble in the beginning or future because of TEKKEN's stagnant methods and how Mishimas are typically used in the story, excluding Lars. I theorized that Josie would be reconceptualized if she'd get renewed. (This isn't new, you can look at Julia, Zafina, Kuni for TK7 or Jin from TK3 => TK4). I'm a bit petrified of whatever they would write and at the same time, I would be accepting defeat because of these trends. Also, yeah. Kazuya is a DC character from the CW shows. He is a jester.
The TK team say a lot of things. Difficult to take them at their word. Especially when it comes to the narrative. Don't try to have your cake & eat it. (This was already expressed in the base story mode review) Sideline Reina. Burn the narrative because investment turns into a mockery from the fans with few doses of dopamine & positivity despite how the marketing tries to present itself.
I'm just asking for better. They aren't required to make one since it's absurdly expensive to make. (Older fans have expressed this for years before my stuff. TK8 is my 2nd real TK exp, but I've played older TK titles/other FGs) That's like me making it sound weird that people play modern TEKKEN titles for money & travel the globe, yet that's ignorant for me to say cause they're fans of the game. Pretty sure they'd ask for better if their competitive circuit was flawed in some areas.
This isn't a valuable defence. Deflecting the Heihachi criticism with "What about Bison, or any other FG icon that cheats death?" doesn't mean that you are excused for the tired gag, dishonest TK marketing & immature storytelling. They don't have to write stories for these chars or make visual story modes & bios. That is all.
This was so frustrating, which is a shame as it did two of the things I have been begging the main story to do, have characters acknowledge Jin's villainy in Tekken 6 and focus on characters outside of the Mishimas. Unfortunately, they did this in the worst way possible. While I agree that it was cool to see Eddy and Jin at least talk about what happened, Eddy immediately forgiving Jin unconditionally made the idea of acknowleding the horror of Jin's actions in Tekken 6 feel meaningless (my biggest fear is that the possible Miguel DLC will be handled the same way), and the time we spent with the new characters was pointless as all their character development happened offscreen, they did nothing significant and were then unceremoniously defeated. I know, they have a power scale to maintain, but since Heihachi was still recovering and still isn't ready with his plan after the main story, they could have easily had them temporarily incapacitate him and force him to retreat. Barring that, they could have easily given them some kind of meaningful character interaction with Heihachi. Imagine if he offered Yoshimitsu assistance with rebuilding the Manji Clan, promised Eddy revenge on Kazuya (or even Jin, imagine how cool it would have been if Eddy didn't immediately forgive Jin and it was seeing the monster the desire for Vengeance twisted Heihachi into that convinced Eddy to forgive Jin) and told Lidia the truth about her family cooperating with him in the past (as was hinted at in some of her bios, and would also explain the handwritten letter, which this story never did), that would have made their decision to oppose him actually mean something. Or imagine if they confronted the fact that they willingly consented to brainwashing a human being, that their "heroism" was hypocritical. Speaking of Heihachi, everything about his story was terrible. His story from Tekken 7 (which I liked, and was foreshadowed by the bios in Tekkens 1-3 in my opinion, but I understand this is unpopular and most people prefer his story without 7's changes) was thrown out the window. The way he survived was idiotic and made no logistical sense, Kazuya was watching the entire time (it also contradicts his intro dialogues, which state that he fell in the lava), the Tekken Monks ended up being insignificant, idiotic (really, trusting Heihachi just because they brainwashed him?) fodder and his memory returning felt completely contrived. I was actually looking forward to his return, but this was garbage. Honestly, it would have been better if they showed the story of how Lidia and Yoshimitsu saved Eddy from Kazuya, and just had Heihachi be badass enough to survive through sheer willpower and climb out of the volcano of his own volition, the way they did it was the worst of both worlds, a nonsensical explanation while making him look weak. P.S. I hope subsequent DLCs act as Sequels rather than prequels. We already know that no major character development or changes to the status quo will happen in the time period between Tekken 7 and 8, so prequels feel pointless in this instance. P.P.S. This only confirms for me that giving Reina the Devil Gene was a massive mistake, she's way more interesting when she has to use her intellect to get by. P.P.P.S. The character assassination of Nina into a money grubbing henchwoman continues, I can't wait for some Anna DLC to fix this garbage, hopefully.
@shahzebhasan9995 Honestly, I feel that dignifying Jin's monstrous actions would be better for Miguel, who's just an ordinary man, versus Eddy, who already had the baggage that was the focus of his DLC arc. In this case, that's why I gave that a pass because while Eddy himself could be categorized as a "Jin fanboy," he was on his journey of redemption and identity. Jin, who had yet to be hit with Kazuya's New York speech, would profit from what Eddy's words meant & that could be part of the challenge for Jin when he begins to waver and question his beliefs and journey in the base story. There is more salt in the wound from the stadium crowd and Miguel, which would add to the challenge if the TK team had the crowd boo Jin and set up Miguel if you wanted. (He should never forgive Jin. Adds variety and a realistic worldview) For Heihachi being a nutcase, you could've had his new power-up feel like it was the Lazarus pit from Batman in that you feel rejuvenated and takes a few moments for your mind to mentally recover from the adrenaline. Otherwise, what they did here was indeed a missed chance to make the heroes waver and also have Heihachi question their morality towards manipulating a heroic Heihachi. In addition to Heihachi offering refuge as you suggested, though I doubt they would have had the runtime. For Heihachi's amnesia, I could see his last headbutt be the reason why he got it before Kazuya's punch. Additionally, it should've been mentioned by the TEKKEN monks that it was because of their beliefs that they would try to reform Heihachi rather than let him perish. (This would open the topic of morality to our trio and hear their thoughts on the matter. Characters can be in-character but still make bad decisions that we, as the audience, disagree with. Maybe have Lidia agree with keeping Heihachi confused. Yoshi is on the fence. Have Eddy be in the middle, but also realize that it would be better to agree with Lidia. This is an iffy idea so this suggestion isn't definitive or ideal). I imagine that story DLC in the future would progress with timeline material rather than more prequels. One of my concerns with the DLC here before release was the attention to the timeline. I was not disappointed or fed with the accuracy since there weren't any retcons that contradicted the main story. (Should watch MK9 and look at MK11 immediately afterward). I feel like Reina having info isn't too bad, but there isn't any mystery to her identity anymore, so explanations and actual hints that pay off previous questionable Reina cutscenes, like networking with Lidia, would make them look better.
@lunar-turtle8230 I can't and haven't played in months.😔 I like the gameplay, but man........the PC stability and need to find content to make & being hit with this depressing story mode makes it very difficult to show support. They do it to themselves with this story.
@fightingmedialounge519 yes, I made a corrections post in my pinned comment. She's in her 20s. I said 40s in the video here since I didn't consider Heihachi's timing and thought it was fast. It's funny, though, that Heihachi didn't take too long to kill Kazumi, so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was faster with his efforts here. Also, consider that this was a Heihachi who lost his wife, so his mental state would have him be more ruthless than what we saw with his Kazumi fight. (Who also knew Mishima Ryu. Can't assume the Hachijos would be as effective fighters in comparison despite being assassins)
@fightingmedialounge519 Kazuya got thrown at the same time as Kazumi was being killed. She was at night, and Kazuya was in the morning since Hei wanted to confirm if Kazuya was also infected with the gene.
One thing this story dlc drove home is what a boring character Lidia is. She's got no flavour at all. She's all seriousness and discipline. But of course she is. No room for anything interesting if you're a martial arts grandmaster and a Prime Minister.
@thebibliophilering8881 I'm neutral on her character because she at least has a motivation and tragedy that caused her to be more stoic about her life. (Easier to support a new character versus Nina) Kind of expected with TEKKEN at this point with its stagnation: Bubbly, comedic relief character Hardcore, stoic character Mix of the 2 sides Take your pick 🙂
Worse part of this DLC is how surface level and generic......everything about it is. The dialogue, fights, and general interactions are also really repetitive. And they did absolutely nothing with the amnesiac Heihachi. Truly nothing. He didn't come face to face with the countless atrocities he committed throughout the series which are most prominent to his own flesh and blood: his father whom buried alive, his 5 year old son whom nearly killed when threw him off a cliff, and his teenaged grandson whom he used and personally shot in the head when he no longer had use for him. What was thr point? And Lidia was here......why? And she's motivated by her dead father? Really? We have yet another character whose motivations are about their dead loved one? Again?!
In regards to Lucky Chloe, Tekken's character endings have never been canon outside of a few exceptions, so there really wasn't anything to retcon in my opinion.
@shahzebhasan9995 considering that 2 characters would have an ending here in TEKKEN 7, I beg to differ. At The very least, Eddy's bio in TEKKEN 7 dignified his TEKKEN 3 ending and makes that his motivation to confront Kazuya personally. TEKKEN 8 more or less dignifies his interaction with Kazuya and makes this significant to his recovery through Lidia's words & inevitable TEKKEN 8 events.
@NapBlack I agree with how it was cool for his T7 bio to acknowledge his past and build upon it, the fact that he shared a story with Lucky Chloe, didn't increase its odds at being canon for me, especially as their endings both contradicted each other unlike, say, Law and Feng or Devil Jin and Hwoarang.
@shahzebhasan9995 I think the beauty of the 2 TEKKEN 7 endings makes it easy to say that Eddy's content was canon while Chloe's wasn't. Giving value towards his debut material, paying off & mocking that in 7 & correcting that mockery in TEKKEN 8 to also enhance 2 TEKKEN characters with valuable screen time makes it worthy for me to say that Eddy still went to G-corp but they retconned it from being Chloe to Kazuya Messy as TEKKEN's timeline is, events like this occurring and being part of this canon TEKKEN 8 prequel makes that a retcon to T7. If Chloe drops, I'd have an easy time believing that she did her own thing for the 1st time in TK8 rather than dignify her fight with Eddy. Special Intros don't count as I expressed in my video. She could've worked with G-corp but either left because of their growing corruption or could've gotten fired for the Jack 7 bot issue in Jack 7's ending. (If you wanted to make Chloe canon)
@RandyGarcia1 I never dismissed either character for the finals. I guessed Fahk as of recent after Evo Vegas though using TK's story as a way to support my argument is a red flag as of now (Because of how fans are) Josie would make more sense to me, given what I already shared around that same time frame.
Where's Heihachi?
Corrections:
This video was made before Harada made his Reina/Heihachi tweet. If you say that "She's a Mishima!!!", this means the baby was her mom & Heihachi is evil AF for that
He's further infecting himself with the Devil gene since that was the point of having 20 kids after Kazumi, who's already Hachijo
You put the normal Women at risk of being infected with the Devil gene as well if Heihachi was going to be infected by Kazumi/Reina's mom
I renege on my Jack-7 comment being a nitpick. It's not a nitpick since Xiaoyu and the cast defending Jin & the world from a dictator is essential to the story & in-universe rules/logic.
Base story review below:
ruclips.net/video/NHYkORPCHmA/видео.html
Thanks for watching!
This DLC drop was 9/11 for anyone who cared about Tekken’s story
@C.R.Cole331 I was too young to know about that, but I get the idea here given the context of this cluster cuss.
I guess they like wasting money on the pretty graphics. No one is asking for a story-mode experience & that money could've gone towards making their game stable on day 1. It gets worse every patch & I haven't played in 7-months. (Played it pre-TK shop)
This was worse than Tekken 6 story, Tekken is a fighting game, ofc it dosen't have to be very story driven, but these retcons are annoying as real fuck. Like they could've easily sorted out the rivalry between Jin and Kazuya in the story DLCs and gave us Reina Vs Lars in Tekken 9 where Lars would've again become the protagonist of the game like T6.
This story DLC made Tekken 7 pointless, and atp the lore of Tekken is a complete joke, the plot of Tekken was always decent, but still they could've done better. But because of those dumbass mains of Heihachi and desperation of devs, they brought Heihachi, couldn't they just gave the moves of Heihachi to Reina. The Tekken monks are said to be good people, so why tf they would save a threat like Heihachi.
@VishinSingh-bp3mz It makes the developers look like morons because:
1. You can make OVAs or something like that for entertainment purposes & marketing without thinking about the growing lore in the game if you don't want to make a story mode. Don't write it. (Multiple characters could shine here in theory)
2. This diaper DLC & base story are expensive to make, so I guess they're stupid & like to waste money and our time rather than be considerate to the narrative to generate organic, positive PR from the community. (Notice how Jin's TK3 tattoo is still on him even though he's "free" from the Devil gene; no, I don't like calling them stupid, etc.)
3. The monks are knuckleheads for saving that monster. If it was in their beliefs to redeem lost, people who lack a purpose & had a no-killing code, I'd almost buy that but there's no context to their beliefs as monks outside of mastering the Ultimate technique
The story "doesn't matter," so instead of Jun & Kazuya having a normal conversation, I guess the 2 of them, Anna & Nina, can have a twerk-off at a beach since logic doesn't exist in TEKKEN lore & characterization doesn't have to be respected with Kazuya, Nina & Jun here. Anna is campy enough to do something like that.
"But it's free, tho!" And the DLC is still trash. I'm done.
I don't want to see Asuka again because she'll continue to be mishandled. I don't want to see Kazuya again now that they made him dumber than MK1 Bi-Han, I don't want them to even TOUCH Anna (let at least one character I like retain some dignity).
All I have to look forward to is this series continuing to turn its wheels and it to be mindless praised by the most gormless of fanbois purely because it is Tekken.
The AsuLili rivalry won’t change
Bryan vs Yoshimitsu won’t change
Kazuya will continue being stupid
Paul and Law will continue having their dignity chipped away
Reina will eventually get sidelined (she cannot stand on her own with Heihachi back)
I won’t miss anything.
@asm4991 "We just want to see the Mishima fights continue" even though the context is needed for fights and regression makes character interactions look like a parody of their more seasoned selves.
Can't handle new characters moving the plot either because you get:
A rare competent utility like Victor,
A mediocre jester-like Azucena (notice how the "JOsIE RIzAl" replacement isn't supported in the marketing or by fans. Josie excelled here)
A significant character like Reina, who was going to either stumble in the beginning or future because of TEKKEN's stagnant methods and how Mishimas are typically used in the story, excluding Lars.
I theorized that Josie would be reconceptualized if she'd get renewed. (This isn't new, you can look at Julia, Zafina, Kuni for TK7 or Jin from TK3 => TK4). I'm a bit petrified of whatever they would write and at the same time, I would be accepting defeat because of these trends.
Also, yeah. Kazuya is a DC character from the CW shows. He is a jester.
The TK team say a lot of things. Difficult to take them at their word. Especially when it comes to the narrative. Don't try to have your cake & eat it. (This was already expressed in the base story mode review)
Sideline Reina. Burn the narrative because investment turns into a mockery from the fans with few doses of dopamine & positivity despite how the marketing tries to present itself.
I'm just asking for better. They aren't required to make one since it's absurdly expensive to make. (Older fans have expressed this for years before my stuff. TK8 is my 2nd real TK exp, but I've played older TK titles/other FGs)
That's like me making it sound weird that people play modern TEKKEN titles for money & travel the globe, yet that's ignorant for me to say cause they're fans of the game. Pretty sure they'd ask for better if their competitive circuit was flawed in some areas.
Story fans have been shafted for years as well. Time has only made this more evident
This isn't a valuable defence. Deflecting the Heihachi criticism with "What about Bison, or any other FG icon that cheats death?" doesn't mean that you are excused for the tired gag, dishonest TK marketing & immature storytelling.
They don't have to write stories for these chars or make visual story modes & bios.
That is all.
This was so frustrating, which is a shame as it did two of the things I have been begging the main story to do, have characters acknowledge Jin's villainy in Tekken 6 and focus on characters outside of the Mishimas. Unfortunately, they did this in the worst way possible. While I agree that it was cool to see Eddy and Jin at least talk about what happened, Eddy immediately forgiving Jin unconditionally made the idea of acknowleding the horror of Jin's actions in Tekken 6 feel meaningless (my biggest fear is that the possible Miguel DLC will be handled the same way), and the time we spent with the new characters was pointless as all their character development happened offscreen, they did nothing significant and were then unceremoniously defeated. I know, they have a power scale to maintain, but since Heihachi was still recovering and still isn't ready with his plan after the main story, they could have easily had them temporarily incapacitate him and force him to retreat. Barring that, they could have easily given them some kind of meaningful character interaction with Heihachi. Imagine if he offered Yoshimitsu assistance with rebuilding the Manji Clan, promised Eddy revenge on Kazuya (or even Jin, imagine how cool it would have been if Eddy didn't immediately forgive Jin and it was seeing the monster the desire for Vengeance twisted Heihachi into that convinced Eddy to forgive Jin) and told Lidia the truth about her family cooperating with him in the past (as was hinted at in some of her bios, and would also explain the handwritten letter, which this story never did), that would have made their decision to oppose him actually mean something. Or imagine if they confronted the fact that they willingly consented to brainwashing a human being, that their "heroism" was hypocritical.
Speaking of Heihachi, everything about his story was terrible. His story from Tekken 7 (which I liked, and was foreshadowed by the bios in Tekkens 1-3 in my opinion, but I understand this is unpopular and most people prefer his story without 7's changes) was thrown out the window. The way he survived was idiotic and made no logistical sense, Kazuya was watching the entire time (it also contradicts his intro dialogues, which state that he fell in the lava), the Tekken Monks ended up being insignificant, idiotic (really, trusting Heihachi just because they brainwashed him?) fodder and his memory returning felt completely contrived. I was actually looking forward to his return, but this was garbage.
Honestly, it would have been better if they showed the story of how Lidia and Yoshimitsu saved Eddy from Kazuya, and just had Heihachi be badass enough to survive through sheer willpower and climb out of the volcano of his own volition, the way they did it was the worst of both worlds, a nonsensical explanation while making him look weak.
P.S. I hope subsequent DLCs act as Sequels rather than prequels. We already know that no major character development or changes to the status quo will happen in the time period between Tekken 7 and 8, so prequels feel pointless in this instance.
P.P.S. This only confirms for me that giving Reina the Devil Gene was a massive mistake, she's way more interesting when she has to use her intellect to get by.
P.P.P.S. The character assassination of Nina into a money grubbing henchwoman continues, I can't wait for some Anna DLC to fix this garbage, hopefully.
@shahzebhasan9995 Honestly, I feel that dignifying Jin's monstrous actions would be better for Miguel, who's just an ordinary man, versus Eddy, who already had the baggage that was the focus of his DLC arc. In this case, that's why I gave that a pass because while Eddy himself could be categorized as a "Jin fanboy," he was on his journey of redemption and identity. Jin, who had yet to be hit with Kazuya's New York speech, would profit from what Eddy's words meant & that could be part of the challenge for Jin when he begins to waver and question his beliefs and journey in the base story. There is more salt in the wound from the stadium crowd and Miguel, which would add to the challenge if the TK team had the crowd boo Jin and set up Miguel if you wanted. (He should never forgive Jin. Adds variety and a realistic worldview)
For Heihachi being a nutcase, you could've had his new power-up feel like it was the Lazarus pit from Batman in that you feel rejuvenated and takes a few moments for your mind to mentally recover from the adrenaline. Otherwise, what they did here was indeed a missed chance to make the heroes waver and also have Heihachi question their morality towards manipulating a heroic Heihachi. In addition to Heihachi offering refuge as you suggested, though I doubt they would have had the runtime.
For Heihachi's amnesia, I could see his last headbutt be the reason why he got it before Kazuya's punch. Additionally, it should've been mentioned by the TEKKEN monks that it was because of their beliefs that they would try to reform Heihachi rather than let him perish. (This would open the topic of morality to our trio and hear their thoughts on the matter. Characters can be in-character but still make bad decisions that we, as the audience, disagree with. Maybe have Lidia agree with keeping Heihachi confused. Yoshi is on the fence. Have Eddy be in the middle, but also realize that it would be better to agree with Lidia. This is an iffy idea so this suggestion isn't definitive or ideal).
I imagine that story DLC in the future would progress with timeline material rather than more prequels. One of my concerns with the DLC here before release was the attention to the timeline. I was not disappointed or fed with the accuracy since there weren't any retcons that contradicted the main story. (Should watch MK9 and look at MK11 immediately afterward).
I feel like Reina having info isn't too bad, but there isn't any mystery to her identity anymore, so explanations and actual hints that pay off previous questionable Reina cutscenes, like networking with Lidia, would make them look better.
@shahzebhasan9995 Also, considering the Anna traffic, I would think she'd be in. She's too much of a crimson cash cow not to get renewed.
This story was so bad I was laughing all the way while playing it. Truly a master comedy.
@lunar-turtle8230 I can't and haven't played in months.😔
I like the gameplay, but man........the PC stability and need to find content to make & being hit with this depressing story mode makes it very difficult to show support.
They do it to themselves with this story.
6:25 i think the idea is suppose to be heihachis genocide took awhile and reina is in her late teens if not early 20s
@fightingmedialounge519 yes, I made a corrections post in my pinned comment. She's in her 20s. I said 40s in the video here since I didn't consider Heihachi's timing and thought it was fast.
It's funny, though, that Heihachi didn't take too long to kill Kazumi, so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was faster with his efforts here. Also, consider that this was a Heihachi who lost his wife, so his mental state would have him be more ruthless than what we saw with his Kazumi fight. (Who also knew Mishima Ryu. Can't assume the Hachijos would be as effective fighters in comparison despite being assassins)
@@NapBlack well, he did have two more kids to torment, so I can see how wiping out an entire clan gets pushed down his to do list
@fightingmedialounge519 Kazuya got thrown at the same time as Kazumi was being killed. She was at night, and Kazuya was in the morning since Hei wanted to confirm if Kazuya was also infected with the gene.
One thing this story dlc drove home is what a boring character Lidia is.
She's got no flavour at all. She's all seriousness and discipline.
But of course she is. No room for anything interesting if you're a martial arts grandmaster and a Prime Minister.
@thebibliophilering8881 I'm neutral on her character because she at least has a motivation and tragedy that caused her to be more stoic about her life. (Easier to support a new character versus Nina)
Kind of expected with TEKKEN at this point with its stagnation:
Bubbly, comedic relief character
Hardcore, stoic character
Mix of the 2 sides
Take your pick 🙂
Sadly tekken story have gotten worse than MK
@michealrather9385 yeah. MK is a dumpster fire, too, so it would be hard to compare it.
Worse part of this DLC is how surface level and generic......everything about it is. The dialogue, fights, and general interactions are also really repetitive.
And they did absolutely nothing with the amnesiac Heihachi. Truly nothing. He didn't come face to face with the countless atrocities he committed throughout the series which are most prominent to his own flesh and blood: his father whom buried alive, his 5 year old son whom nearly killed when threw him off a cliff, and his teenaged grandson whom he used and personally shot in the head when he no longer had use for him. What was thr point?
And Lidia was here......why? And she's motivated by her dead father? Really? We have yet another character whose motivations are about their dead loved one? Again?!
@Takejiro24 Yeah......the DLC is a product that exists. Some good, a lot of bad, & even more Heihachi........yay.
In regards to Lucky Chloe, Tekken's character endings have never been canon outside of a few exceptions, so there really wasn't anything to retcon in my opinion.
@shahzebhasan9995 considering that 2 characters would have an ending here in TEKKEN 7, I beg to differ. At The very least, Eddy's bio in TEKKEN 7 dignified his TEKKEN 3 ending and makes that his motivation to confront Kazuya personally.
TEKKEN 8 more or less dignifies his interaction with Kazuya and makes this significant to his recovery through Lidia's words & inevitable TEKKEN 8 events.
@@shahzebhasan9995 The DLC was good for Eddy fans though. I won't take that away.
@NapBlack I agree with how it was cool for his T7 bio to acknowledge his past and build upon it, the fact that he shared a story with Lucky Chloe, didn't increase its odds at being canon for me, especially as their endings both contradicted each other unlike, say, Law and Feng or Devil Jin and Hwoarang.
@shahzebhasan9995 I think the beauty of the 2 TEKKEN 7 endings makes it easy to say that Eddy's content was canon while Chloe's wasn't. Giving value towards his debut material, paying off & mocking that in 7 & correcting that mockery in TEKKEN 8 to also enhance 2 TEKKEN characters with valuable screen time makes it worthy for me to say that Eddy still went to G-corp but they retconned it from being Chloe to Kazuya
Messy as TEKKEN's timeline is, events like this occurring and being part of this canon TEKKEN 8 prequel makes that a retcon to T7. If Chloe drops, I'd have an easy time believing that she did her own thing for the 1st time in TK8 rather than dignify her fight with Eddy. Special Intros don't count as I expressed in my video. She could've worked with G-corp but either left because of their growing corruption or could've gotten fired for the Jack 7 bot issue in Jack 7's ending. (If you wanted to make Chloe canon)
i think next dlc is fak or josie
@RandyGarcia1 I never dismissed either character for the finals. I guessed Fahk as of recent after Evo Vegas though using TK's story as a way to support my argument is a red flag as of now (Because of how fans are)
Josie would make more sense to me, given what I already shared around that same time frame.