I remember the good old days (around 1984) with the round parachutes T10 and C9 with limited double L or TU modifications. VERY limited steering and no flaring. Every landing was PLF. It transfers forward energy into the rotational energy. We practised it from chairs, tables and ended up doing it from about 3m height. The T10 (10.6m diameter) was for the heavy blokes like me, and the C9 (8.5m Diameter) was for the lighter weight classes. I once took a C9 by mistake and to make matters worse I took one with full TU modification. The T10 descends at a rate of 6.7 to 7.3 m/s, and an unmodified C9 with the same weight descends quite a bit faster so I came down way faster than I was supposed to. The instructor was screaming his head of but that didn't help on the descend rate. In the end I walked away from that experience with no damage of any kind due to a perfectly executed PLF.
I watch this several times and I love it with all my heart and I'm never going to do anything but a plf landing . If you get in trouble you need to have a habit of approaching the ground and instantly going into your Plf .. that needs to be practiced and polished. When you land hard because of the bad launch or whatever reason you got your best chance if you have a habit you built Time after Time. I'm always going to do the plf and think about you and never ever steer from the way. I saw all the people that land on one foot pay for it. I don't mind rolling in a ball either. I'm coming in at a 20 degree angle of incidence flying at trim standing up. I'm blessed with a lot of rolling and tumbling to do and not very much vertical.
Thanks Jocky, great stuff. Something that was drilled into me when landing Paracommaders back in the day was the importance of making the first point of contact the balls of your feet. A flat-footed landed tended to discourage the sideways roll when I'm a crosswind or downwind landing.
I'm addicted to your channel! love your positive attitude, great articulation and how much you love to help and teach others! Will definitely do my SIV with you after I'm done with P2 :)
You can do it wearing a paragliding harness, especially when you have momentum, which is when you will be needing to do it. Also pod harnesses enable you to do it and keep your legs together. just being in the bent position and side on, will be better than nothing as the pendulum will do the rest. I have done it in a harness and it works. Thanks
This is for when your wing is dead and your harness is just hanging off you like a cheap Halloween costume. You will be hurtin' for certain but maybe not brokin' and that's not jokin'.
I wonder what the best plf method is when in a stalled backfly? I was once in this situation (on a wing with shortened brakelines!) falling backwards at 10 m/sec and tried the plf but my knees hit my chest and I broke my sternum hitting my knees and got very severe whiplash. Try twisting to one side before impact?
Hi Mark. Sorry to hear about your accident. You can still do a PLF going backwards, you just rotate more and put the side of your foot to the direction of travel, but I appreciate this can be tricky in a harness.
Your relationship to the air in the vertical axis is all lifts and gravity-driven, horizontal is determined by the flight direction of the glider and the direction of the wind. Sink rate is a very evil thing and harder to roll off,than horizontal speed.
would there be anything wrong with Just doing the parachute landing fall every single time you land? Just don't worry about it don't worry about looking cool when you swoop in for the landing or anything else. I'm thinking where I live at the sky in the air has rotors and weird places and you never know that last three or four feet and change enough that you would land harder than you thought.
@@GodzillaGoesGaga there were many reasons but here is the first one. I saw a video of competitions and all of the people there with far more skill than I will ever have were showing off their twisted ankles. It dawned on me that I'm coming down with a single great and I'm flying on a wing 25 ft wide. If you hit the ground with one foot, good ankle joint is only an inch across. That's a pretty long lever arm considering you're trying to arrest this downward motion, that puts a lot of pressure downward on foot to connect you solidly to the ground and then the wing twists on that ankle knee and hip. For that brief instant when your foot hits the ground and the other foot is going to hit the ground, that's almost considered as a single point. If you hit with both feet at the same time the torque load is spread out between those two feet your ankles are about 4 in between each other maybe 6 in to the outside edge. That shock torque load is spread out. The horizontal component only comes into play when you get to the ground. I'm flying in the biggest epsilon 9 they got and I'm still heavy on the wing. I have to come up with an extremely tolerant landing strategy. I see people come in and dive to make the final approach and then they don't have enough altitude and they hit the ground pretty hard. That's the nature of a proper landing gone wrong. At the ground handling stage right now and when I get out of the school I got to come home and there's no one here to fly with. In the low hours part of being a pilot a well polished automatic parachute landing fall will pay off eventually.
@@markmcgoveran6811 Talked to my instructor today about this. You can’t do a PLF when moving forward for normal landings. You only do it when dropping in (stalls etc).
@Mark Mcgoveran if you're setting up for a PLF before you land, you're not flaring properly, and therefore you're not controlling your wing, this means you then end up laying on the floor with your wing dragging you around, or just smacking your wing on the floor and popping the cells. Land properly, turn and land your wing, all is nice and tidy and no drama. You shouldn't be 'swooping in' for a landing if you're not confident, it should be slow ,controlled, and in a nice big landing area so you have plenty of options.
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This is possibly one the most accurate/instructional demonstrations of a "PLF" that I've ever seen.
I remember the good old days (around 1984) with the round parachutes T10 and C9 with limited double L or TU modifications. VERY limited steering and no flaring. Every landing was PLF. It transfers forward energy into the rotational energy. We practised it from chairs, tables and ended up doing it from about 3m height.
The T10 (10.6m diameter) was for the heavy blokes like me, and the C9 (8.5m Diameter) was for the lighter weight classes.
I once took a C9 by mistake and to make matters worse I took one with full TU modification. The T10 descends at a rate of 6.7 to 7.3 m/s, and an unmodified C9 with the same weight descends quite a bit faster so I came down way faster than I was supposed to. The instructor was screaming his head of but that didn't help on the descend rate.
In the end I walked away from that experience with no damage of any kind due to a perfectly executed PLF.
I watch this several times and I love it with all my heart and I'm never going to do anything but a plf landing . If you get in trouble you need to have a habit of approaching the ground and instantly going into your Plf .. that needs to be practiced and polished. When you land hard because of the bad launch or whatever reason you got your best chance if you have a habit you built Time after Time. I'm always going to do the plf and think about you and never ever steer from the way. I saw all the people that land on one foot pay for it. I don't mind rolling in a ball either. I'm coming in at a 20 degree angle of incidence flying at trim standing up. I'm blessed with a lot of rolling and tumbling to do and not very much vertical.
Thanks Jocky, great stuff. Something that was drilled into me when landing Paracommaders back in the day was the importance of making the first point of contact the balls of your feet. A flat-footed landed tended to discourage the sideways roll when I'm a crosswind or downwind landing.
randomly came across this. great video, great instruction. not sure if i'll ever need it but i'll try to keep it in mind anyways.
Great video and instructions!
Just re-watched you VLOG. Very helpful. Thanks !
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge sir 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Great video + explanation
Great video, I wanted to leanr how to PLF and you explained it perfectly
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this outstanding presentation !
I'm addicted to your channel! love your positive attitude, great articulation and how much you love to help and teach others! Will definitely do my SIV with you after I'm done with P2 :)
Thanks, I look forward to seeing you enjoy SIV
Always a good recap Jocky. Thanks.
Great video, thank you for the reminder to practice PLF
Important video, thank you 🙏
Safety First Lesson when learning Paragliding. Thanks
I kind of brushed over PLF in my paragliding training and broke my ankle the other day due to a hard landing. Kinda wish I payed attention haha.
Great vid thanks
But we cannot roll over our buttocks because of the harness. How to do it with a harness?
You can do it wearing a paragliding harness, especially when you have momentum, which is when you will be needing to do it. Also pod harnesses enable you to do it and keep your legs together. just being in the bent position and side on, will be better than nothing as the pendulum will do the rest. I have done it in a harness and it works. Thanks
This is for when your wing is dead and your harness is just hanging off you like a cheap Halloween costume.
You will be hurtin' for certain but maybe not brokin' and that's not jokin'.
I kept hitting my head on practice. I need more practice but a short break with some instruction videos first. What'd I say?
Tuck your head into your chest and avoid trying to look where you are going, because that raises your head and it clatters about. have fun.
I wonder what the best plf method is when in a stalled backfly? I was once in this situation (on a wing with shortened brakelines!) falling backwards at 10 m/sec and tried the plf but my knees hit my chest and I broke my sternum hitting my knees and got very severe whiplash. Try twisting to one side before impact?
Hi Mark. Sorry to hear about your accident. You can still do a PLF going backwards, you just rotate more and put the side of your foot to the direction of travel, but I appreciate this can be tricky in a harness.
Your relationship to the air in the vertical axis is all lifts and gravity-driven, horizontal is determined by the flight direction of the glider and the direction of the wind.
Sink rate is a very evil thing and harder to roll off,than horizontal speed.
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would there be anything wrong with
Just doing the parachute landing fall every single time you land? Just don't worry about it don't worry about looking cool when you swoop in for the landing or anything else. I'm thinking where I live at the sky in the air has rotors and weird places and you never know that last three or four feet and change enough that you would land harder than you thought.
Why wouldn’t you want to land properly most of the time ?
@@GodzillaGoesGaga there were many reasons but here is the first one. I saw a video of competitions and all of the people there with far more skill than I will ever have were showing off their twisted ankles. It dawned on me that I'm coming down with a single great and I'm flying on a wing 25 ft wide. If you hit the ground with one foot, good ankle joint is only an inch across. That's a pretty long lever arm considering you're trying to arrest this downward motion, that puts a lot of pressure downward on foot to connect you solidly to the ground and then the wing twists on that ankle knee and hip. For that brief instant when your foot hits the ground and the other foot is going to hit the ground, that's almost considered as a single point. If you hit with both feet at the same time the torque load is spread out between those two feet your ankles are about 4 in between each other maybe 6 in to the outside edge. That shock torque load is spread out. The horizontal component only comes into play when you get to the ground. I'm flying in the biggest epsilon 9 they got and I'm still heavy on the wing. I have to come up with an extremely tolerant landing strategy. I see people come in and dive to make the final approach and then they don't have enough altitude and they hit the ground pretty hard. That's the nature of a proper landing gone wrong. At the ground handling stage right now and when I get out of the school I got to come home and there's no one here to fly with. In the low hours part of being a pilot a well polished automatic parachute landing fall will pay off eventually.
@@markmcgoveran6811 Talked to my instructor today about this. You can’t do a PLF when moving forward for normal landings. You only do it when dropping in (stalls etc).
@Mark Mcgoveran if you're setting up for a PLF before you land, you're not flaring properly, and therefore you're not controlling your wing, this means you then end up laying on the floor with your wing dragging you around, or just smacking your wing on the floor and popping the cells. Land properly, turn and land your wing, all is nice and tidy and no drama. You shouldn't be 'swooping in' for a landing if you're not confident, it should be slow ,controlled, and in a nice big landing area so you have plenty of options.
last time i crashed on mx bike in the flat turn, i use technique like this and everythink works nice. Only bruise on my butt =)
Anyone here from the YT Short by Not What You Think or Leg Breaking Landing video?
Hahahahahaha no way