Paul's protection necklace was the most blatant use of producer favoritism and meddling so far on any season of Big Brother. Paul was already immune for the first eviction since he was the "twist" and Cameron was kicked out to make room for him. They knew America would vote for him as the only returning houseguest, and giving him THREE additional weeks of safety was ridiculous. That's 4 total evictions Paul was safe for without doing a thing in the game. He would have been gone week 1 without it when Cody was going to backdoor him.
I go back and forth between that power and production reintroducing the duos twist via Pandora’s box in BB13 at the final 6. It allowed both Rachel and her closest ally Jordan to be safe when Rachel won the POV, and left only one other duo eligible to be nominated. Then Rachel and Jordan had control of the vote, since at final 6 only three people vote.
I hate to burst your bubble, but the twists, and how they will be implemented in the game are planned MONTHS in advance, and run through multiple versions of "tests" to see how players might utilize them. America's vote is NOT something they can actively predict... it's why future seasons may be built more and more ~around~ America voting. {Anyone who think's they knew America would surround, and stan for Taylor last season, was only getting that information from the live feeds... it wasn't even shown on aired episodes until WEEK's LATER... right?} Production knew they had a socio-political mastermind in Paul; that without Cody, crushed the collective "backbone" of a massive frat-culture alliance from the INSIDE! Which made for GOOD TV!! I.E. if the "twist" you're bringing back is a petri-dish of political thinking, who EVERY PLAYER should be fearful of, you have to let it ferment... giving him 4 weeks simply allowed for that.
Omg and then the friendship bracelets?? BB basically handed Paul safety until jury and a majority alliance. Thankfully the last few seasons seem to have had little production influence
@@Yeaster Exactly!! I almost mentioned that in my comment too. They just wanted to set him up with safety from 4 evictions and a handful of people likely to feel indebted to him. It annoys me every time I think about it 😂
Don't forget the Golden Apple giving the taker 1 week of safety. Paul could also have potentially taken that to get safety if somehow he didn't get the Pendant of Protection. lol
Coup twist was the most blatant riggery. Chima and Jessie got fucked over hard and Chima stood up for herself and for what's right by rebelling against the producers. The house shoild have done then what Zach/Ty did in bbcan11 when they threatened to walk (they had the right principal but wrong situation tbh).
I feel like the best twists make players show their cards when they otherwise wouldn't want to advertise alliances. I feel like this can be in subtle ways like the split house of last season - it's such a simple element changed but causes a bit of a strategic frenzy for the HGs
8:33- 8:45 Remember, during week four, Aaryn received the most votes to be nominated. However, because Aaryn was already nominated by the HOH (Judd) the nomination went to the next highest vote receiver (Elissa).
@@TheGraphicalHarmonicist On the night that Caitlin was evicted, Julie actually stated that Aaryn was the highest vote getter for America's nomination.
Didn’t even mention the additional power that the BB11 coup d’etat had. After Jesse’s eviction, Chima was so upset about it that she completely cracked. She repeatedly refused to put on her microphone and then threw it in the hot tub, and production expelled her for violating the rules. So in a way it was like Jeff’s side of the house got two members from the other side eliminated in one week.
Chima was going home next anyway. Michelle won the HOH the following week, and she hated Chima. Even without the Coup D'Tat, there is no scenario where Chima stays against anybody on Jessie's side. She goes over Lydia, Kevin, Natalie, and Jessie.
To be fair, the Coup d’etat would’ve been great on Big Brother 22. Imagine if Janelle or Kaysar were voted for it and put up Cody and Nicole, do you know how much that would’ve saved that season?! Twists allowed David and Davonne to actually shake up the game…so I feel like if the season is getting way too one sided; twists should come in to break it up. Cuz it’s funny Kevin came back and understood why 11 introduced it
You know, a part of me is actually kind of glad that BB22 happened, simply because it highlighted to everyone how flawed Big Brother's structure is. It also made the producers finally wake up and realize that nobody - not even the "all stars" they casted - has been able to develop a way to logically combat Derrick's "big alliance" strategy that he introduced in BB16, and why this is a terrible thing for the show. I don't know. I feel like BB22 is one those atrocities where you have to take a step backwards, before you can move forwards again.
TBH it's cause of BB16 and 22 the cookout won BB23, just with a "twist on their plan" 😂😂😂😂 but BB24 was good cause of the Leftovers. Huge alliances but with a purpose. BB16 was for Derrick to win and BB22 was for no reason
If the Coup De Tate was in all stars and if not Janelle or Kaysar, hopefully Ian, Kevin or Da Voone it would have changed so much and if it was used and Cody and Nicole it would have shaken up the comittee as a big F you to everyone in the committee alliance and it would make the season so much better than what ended up happening.
I agree even though I'll admit in s11 I was very pissed when it happened. However, 22 was so boring and literally nobody outside that alliance won an hoh. I would have happily voted for Janelle to hand her the Coup d"etat. I'm still upset she was 1 point short of winning HOH the week she went home 🙄.
I'm not sure if you considered spinoff seasons with this list but America's nominee/vote was REALLY overpowered in OTT. For 5 of the 7 weeks it was active, the person who went home was not the person the HOH initially targeted. Also, it led to weeks where the HOH's ally went home without much control around it. For a couple weeks, the house was evenly divided in a split vote and the deciding vote was America those times. The viewers had a lot of power compared to the houseguests.
I didn’t watch that season until a couple years after it first aired so I only know what was in the edits and what I’ve read on various social media sites about that season, but it seems like the thing that saved that twist from messing up the season was the fact that the audience was just as divided as the house. And due to the very nature of OTT there were basically no casuals who were voting based solely on the edit. I do like what they’ve done in Canada before though, where one week is Canada’s HOH. This way none of the houseguests have their HOH week nullified by an audience vote, and the twist only lasts for one week. I’m honestly surprised BBUS hasn’t taken that idea yet. I’m just remembering how the America’s vote for who to punish in BB21, how it messed with those three houseguests’ heads and what being nominated by America would do, especially if it’s implemented in a steamroll season.
BB4’s diamond veto was different from what we know as the diamond now though. It was a “diamond veto” because it allowed a veto to be won at F4 which was not allowed the previous season. It’s like how they brought the specialty “Golden” veto at F5 of BB3 to spice things up.
Season 15 is honestly such an underrated season. Sure, most of the players had little if any likability, but from a pure entertainment perspective--it really doesn't get much better. The Gina Marie/Amanda fight that resulted in the spit-take seen 'round the world is one of the most iconic moments in Big Brother history. I use that gif of Elissa on a weekly basis to this day.
As a Big Brother super-fan I couldn't agree with you more about 15. My girlfriend and I personally consider Andy to "actually" be one of the greatest winner's of all time. He strategically moved himself through a "majority-to minority-to majority again" alliance, all while keeping good will amongst the players remaining IN the game. In our opinion he was the first player to navigate a legitimately TOXIC jury, since Jun. A fact which is proven by multiple people later saying they would have voted Helen to win, had she made it... despite having treated her equally as hatefully. It's one of the most socially analytical seasons they've ever cast!
@@conanmcclanahan1069 it's really fascinating if you're at all interested in human psychology/sociology. To this day, I think the hate towards Aaryn was hyperbolic and am happy she's since been killing it as a bona-fide influencer. Spencer was even more benign comparatively, and the fact he actually lost his job due to fan complaints infuriates me.
Season 15 has aged both like milk in the sun and fine wine simultaneously. Andy’s winning game is one of the most highly regarded, Elissa is in retrospect more likable than many gave her credit at the time, and gameplay wise it is definitely a good season with lots of moves made throughout. However, Aaryn, Ginamarie and Amanda’s behaviors only look worse in retrospect, the cast overall isn’t super likable beyond Elissa, Candice, Howard, and Helen, and it sucks to know the behaviors that made this season so problematic are just as prevalent as they were 10 years ago when this season aired. I still enjoy the season overall, but more for Andy’s win than anything else!
I think a good Big Brother video topic is to talk about the controversy of Big Brother. From S1 till S24. Some seasons have fan reactions that cause CBS to speak while others CBS ignores because of fan reaction being dramatic like Shelly voting to evict Jeff in BB13 and causing fans to threaten her family and daughter plus her job. I don't want it to be a negative video but more so I like to hear your perspective on it
Halting Hex and Identity Theft fit into the first category too for sure. Absolutely busted The powers in BB21 and 22 with whacktivity and the basement were a lot more balanced
For three weeks of secret immunity in the game, they should have hired a 7 year old girl to enter the house and kick Paul in the nuts for every day he was in that house.
I love watching your stuff, you always think of great topics to talk about and your insight paired with the clips you use never fail to be enticing and entertaining!
Paul also had those friendship bracelets that made everyone a lapdog like week 1 right? It was like a final 8 type of power which I always thought was nuts. It being named after Paul's catchphrase the year prior.... I think production over saturated Paul and were thrown off by the audience reaction w/the return and like never course corrected & kinda dug their heels in with a disingenuous edit of Paul being so powerful when..... production gave out 8 leashes and Paul walked them all.... I still think if production gave Paul a less obvious puppet master edit, like the first season with the underdog edit, they wouldnt have acted so harsh/cold/removed in their social game. It felt like there was constantly reassurance it was all working out.... and Paul would have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for Josh and his meddling goodbye messages :P Edit: after reading through some comments I learned Paul uses they/them now, so I corrected my comment. If anyone else didn't know now you know
The most ridiculous thing about Paul’s power is the fact that to my knowledge there was no deadline. He could’ve been nominated first at the final 7 and all of a sudden he just has immunity into the final 4. Busted power.
I don’t think there’s a single soul who LIKES the coup as a twist. It was just obnoxiously overpowered, although I would’ve loved if Boogie got to use it in All Stars. I do like when there’s “third nominee” twists on occasion because it shakes up the strategy, but the MVP just broke that entirely. It allowed Amanda and Helen to completely run a majority of BB15 by weaponizing Rachel’s popularity. I much preferred the Roadkill/Temptation nominees as that was a little more random and involved a competition where people were on equal footing.
The problem with Roadkill is that it gives a majority another out to get their way even if an underdog is HOH, since they can win Roadkill and evict their own nominee. Temptation at least gives more outs for people to defend themselves from a backdoor attempt, which happened a lot during Paul's supermajority in BB19. I wouldn't mind seeing that or Safety Suite return.
Boogie did use it. He threatened george Nd intimated he had It ahich scares george into replacing will with howie....on twenty minutes notice. A move boogie never got credit for just same old people calling him a sidekick. He is no sidekick
I remembered there was a segment where ED, Dani Reyes, Mike Boogie and Janelle were told to give their opinions on the late game bit of BB11. Mike mentioned that us viewers should give her a break because the houseguests can be unpredictable at times to the point of doing unexpected things. Meanwhile ED was like There were 8 people left and she completely lost sight of the goal, which is the half a million prize money
Pretty sure Boogie actually lost the coup d'etat since he told Will about it, when it was supposed to be anonynous. Thankfully for him, he was in a good enough position to survive those two weeks without it.
It will not let me post the link but there is an article describing the event if you just google "mike boogie coup d'etat", and it's also somewhere in the jokers archives
Poor Mr. Pectacular. He gets evicted in 2 consecutive seasons due to a twist. As unlikely as it might be, i hope we get to see him play the game again.
Hacker was very close and the only thing that stopped me was that they don’t pick veto replacement, so there’s a really obvious way to “fight against” the hacker (and everyone is aware of it) as opposed to something like the MVP where nobody can do anything about it
@@Ethanimale Exactly, because remember that Haleigh was hacker on Angela's HOH, and her best friend/number one ally in Bayleigh still went out the door that week
Imagine how different season 19 would have been if they just canceled the evictions after the nominee quit. They should have done that. Cody might have favor for a few more weeks and maybe Paul isn’t drooled over up until final 2
What are your thoughts on the Coin of Destiny event from BB23? It was sort of a watered down Coup d'etat, since it could undo all of the HOH's power. Except I think the coin flip happened prior to the POV? I don't remember exactly how it worked, tbh, since Tiffany was controlling Claire's nominations either way.
If I'm being totally honest, I did plan on including that as a side mention after talking about the Coup, but I got a bit burnt out and ended up not including it lol. I think it was a much, MUCH more balanced version for what it's worth
Even tho the panic power didn’t get used in BB21 it still feel like it did, since I believe they threatened the holder into not using it bc of the diamond veto potential
I genuinely think something like the diamond veto would be more of a staple in the game. As it stands the game is super comp focused and the hoh especially gets way too much power. If you have a majority alliance it becomes pretty easy to sweep the game. At the very least the diamond veto can give actual power to someone on the outs
I don't know if this would rank, but I was just thinking in recent BBCAN occurrence, the Fatal Feast week, rendered Kuzie's HOH useless, because she was HOH and didn't really nominate anyone. They used the chain of safety, and I thought that this was overpowered in the other direction. Reaaaaaallly bad, and put a target on that HOH who couldn't really accomplish anything they wanted to.
Ethan you also couldve mentioned that for the MVP twist if it didn’t exist Elissa wouldve been sent home week 1 or 2 as well as they switched it to America voting for the MVP because the houseguests were using Elissa for gameplay with the MVP
Didn’t Paul also have the friendship bracelets week one making him able to create alliances moreso than anyone else on top of 3 weeks of protection? As for BB15, as overpowered as the MVP was, I can’t imagine what would have happened with that season otherwise. For the Coup d’État, I really wish we would have had that season without it and see how it would have played out. Granted, we did get the Russell lie late game which was phenomenal gameplay by Kevin and Nathalie.
I understand why people don’t like Paul, personally liked him, hated Cody and Jess, transphobic morons, but that pendant was the most busted thing ever. They really need twists that reveal people’s allegiances. The chopping block game or survey game that survivor uses would be perfect for HOH comps and I’m baffled that they don’t used
I knew there were issues when the ad's starting with season 8 forward said the word "twist" as much as possible..... BB today lacks confidence in itself to let the game play out without giant twists
I actually think the BB12 Diamond Power of Veto could work if the person who was HoH when it was used got immunity for themself + 1 other person of their choosing for the next week
The immunity would be granted on the spot, so if the HoH gives immunity to John then John cannot be the DPOV user’s replacement nominee AND the outgoing HoH and John cannot be nominated next week
I remember bb15 and the most "likable guy" in the house, taking his clothes off in the backyard and running around completely naked. He thought it would be funny, but the rest of the house did not. 😅 He ended up being the first one evicted. If he wouldn't have done that, it would have been someone else evicted first, instead of him. 😂😁
The MVP twist was done that way on purpose. CBS created the MVP twist to give Elissa an unfair advantage. It completely altered the game. If I were on this cast, I would never have voted for Elissa to win just because of the MVP twist.
I would have, because it wasn't Elissa's decision to have that twist in the game, and she wasn't the one controlling the MVP votes, so I'd rather base my vote on how she played the game using the factors that she actually could control
The MVP twist... if you think that's broken try the early UK show. Literally the nomination and eviction was entirely public vote. Non Hoh, no veto. If you get the least votes you leave. Get the most in the final week - win the money.
Ugh I still get mad about that power Jeff got. I like him and Jordan but him and Jesse were battling and they should have had to beat the other fairly. It’s like how Paul ruined Cody in week one over a power.
I came to this video because of the Deepfake HOH as well. The Deepfake HOH is definitely up there with the most overpowered twists/powers in BB history.
Funnily enough, BB19 also provided the houseguests with the Golden Apple to tempt someone with safety for the first week, and Paul has actually mentioned in the live feeds that they figured the apple was designed for them. ruclips.net/video/gTRtGBJgOKY/видео.html So, even if America hadn't voted to give Paul the Pendant of Protection, they could have potentially used the Golden Apple as an out for the start of the season on top of that (although Josh obviously thwarted that possibility without intending to). lol Production doesn't bring players back for a 2nd season unless they can be sure they will stick around for a while. =P
BBCAN 7’s Blood Veto could’ve been great on a different season loved how it seemed at the time. (Spoiler Alert) I wish Kyra would’ve used it to save Kiera but no had to be a useless houseguest.
Haven’t watched yet. But I’ll say MVP from 15, cause that was probably just the first instance of rigging that I noticed as a viewer. And obviously the coup
Hacker isn't as OP as the rest of them, because it's known to the entire house, and as we saw the first week it was introduced, the Hacker can still have their closest ally go out the door
BBCAN's Dead Last twist was basically Big Brother's equivalent of Do or Die. Glad they quickly ditched it, it had potential to break the game as much as Battle of the Block did in strongly encouraging a big alliance of all the comp beasts.
Chima's reaction to having the Coup d'tat used against her HOH was, as far as I was concerned, 100% justified. Having a rare HOH win for a black woman yanked away from her made her clearly decide to get herself removed from the game, by doing everything she could, so she refused to wear her mike and eventually she just tossed it into the pool. I thought she was completely in the right and at the least, should have become eligible to play for the next HOH, if not just having her HOH stretched to two weeks. Let's face it. The power wasn't designed to be racist, but it worked out in such a way that it became racist.
It's the name of the game. As the saying goes, "expect the unexpected." That move by Jeff _was_ exactly that. There was nothing racial about it; it had nothing to do with the fact that Jeff was white and Chima was black, it was based on just pure strategy.
@@Ethanimale No big deal...mistakes happen, especially when you're used to referring to someone by one set of pronouns and they later end up using different ones, and we all know you didn't intentionally misgender Paul
Not gonna lie, a funny scenario would be: Imagine a season, BBUS vs BBUK. Houseguests from both US and UK competing against each other. For a good player, I’d like to imagine Sam Evans from BBUK14 in a different format
Paul's protection necklace was the most blatant use of producer favoritism and meddling so far on any season of Big Brother. Paul was already immune for the first eviction since he was the "twist" and Cameron was kicked out to make room for him. They knew America would vote for him as the only returning houseguest, and giving him THREE additional weeks of safety was ridiculous. That's 4 total evictions Paul was safe for without doing a thing in the game. He would have been gone week 1 without it when Cody was going to backdoor him.
I go back and forth between that power and production reintroducing the duos twist via Pandora’s box in BB13 at the final 6. It allowed both Rachel and her closest ally Jordan to be safe when Rachel won the POV, and left only one other duo eligible to be nominated. Then Rachel and Jordan had control of the vote, since at final 6 only three people vote.
I hate to burst your bubble, but the twists, and how they will be implemented in the game are planned MONTHS in advance, and run through multiple versions of "tests" to see how players might utilize them.
America's vote is NOT something they can actively predict... it's why future seasons may be built more and more ~around~ America voting.
{Anyone who think's they knew America would surround, and stan for Taylor last season, was only getting that information from the live feeds... it wasn't even shown on aired episodes until WEEK's LATER... right?}
Production knew they had a socio-political mastermind in Paul; that without Cody, crushed the collective "backbone" of a massive frat-culture alliance from the INSIDE!
Which made for GOOD TV!!
I.E. if the "twist" you're bringing back is a petri-dish of political thinking, who EVERY PLAYER should be fearful of, you have to let it ferment... giving him 4 weeks simply allowed for that.
Omg and then the friendship bracelets?? BB basically handed Paul safety until jury and a majority alliance. Thankfully the last few seasons seem to have had little production influence
@@Yeaster Exactly!! I almost mentioned that in my comment too. They just wanted to set him up with safety from 4 evictions and a handful of people likely to feel indebted to him. It annoys me every time I think about it 😂
Don't forget the Golden Apple giving the taker 1 week of safety. Paul could also have potentially taken that to get safety if somehow he didn't get the Pendant of Protection. lol
“Because better luck next time, you big dummy” is an underrated line in BB history
Matt is an underrated big brother player
Coup twist was the most blatant riggery. Chima and Jessie got fucked over hard and Chima stood up for herself and for what's right by rebelling against the producers. The house shoild have done then what Zach/Ty did in bbcan11 when they threatened to walk (they had the right principal but wrong situation tbh).
Elissa accidentally getting nominated by the MVP week 4 was one of the funniest goddamn moments this show has seen
Legend has it that to this day Elissa still goes to the diary room and reads "congratulations, America has chosen you as this week's MVP" every week.
You should have mentioned that Chima was so upset over how broken the Coup d'etat was that she ended up getting herself kicked from the game.
China was breaking rules all season, long before the twist. Don’t make excuses for her ghetto diva behavior.
I wish the show would go back to doing casting twists like having exes or secret partners. It would add more drama that the show has been missing
When you really break it down, Paul fumbled the BB ball so badly. He had so much handed to him...
I feel like the best twists make players show their cards when they otherwise wouldn't want to advertise alliances. I feel like this can be in subtle ways like the split house of last season - it's such a simple element changed but causes a bit of a strategic frenzy for the HGs
8:33- 8:45 Remember, during week four, Aaryn received the most votes to be nominated. However, because Aaryn was already nominated by the HOH (Judd) the nomination went to the next highest vote receiver (Elissa).
So not only did got nominated by accident, but she also got there because the most disliked person in the house was already on the block?
Is there a way to see the MVP votes from BB 15?
@@TheGraphicalHarmonicist On the night that Caitlin was evicted, Julie actually stated that Aaryn was the highest vote getter for America's nomination.
@@julianbigelow2794 I see
Didn’t even mention the additional power that the BB11 coup d’etat had. After Jesse’s eviction, Chima was so upset about it that she completely cracked. She repeatedly refused to put on her microphone and then threw it in the hot tub, and production expelled her for violating the rules. So in a way it was like Jeff’s side of the house got two members from the other side eliminated in one week.
Chima was going home next anyway. Michelle won the HOH the following week, and she hated Chima. Even without the Coup D'Tat, there is no scenario where Chima stays against anybody on Jessie's side. She goes over Lydia, Kevin, Natalie, and Jessie.
To be fair, the Coup d’etat would’ve been great on Big Brother 22. Imagine if Janelle or Kaysar were voted for it and put up Cody and Nicole, do you know how much that would’ve saved that season?!
Twists allowed David and Davonne to actually shake up the game…so I feel like if the season is getting way too one sided; twists should come in to break it up. Cuz it’s funny Kevin came back and understood why 11 introduced it
You know, a part of me is actually kind of glad that BB22 happened, simply because it highlighted to everyone how flawed Big Brother's structure is. It also made the producers finally wake up and realize that nobody - not even the "all stars" they casted - has been able to develop a way to logically combat Derrick's "big alliance" strategy that he introduced in BB16, and why this is a terrible thing for the show.
I don't know. I feel like BB22 is one those atrocities where you have to take a step backwards, before you can move forwards again.
TBH it's cause of BB16 and 22 the cookout won BB23, just with a "twist on their plan" 😂😂😂😂 but BB24 was good cause of the Leftovers. Huge alliances but with a purpose. BB16 was for Derrick to win and BB22 was for no reason
If the Coup De Tate was in all stars and if not Janelle or Kaysar, hopefully Ian, Kevin or Da Voone it would have changed so much and if it was used and Cody and Nicole it would have shaken up the comittee as a big F you to everyone in the committee alliance and it would make the season so much better than what ended up happening.
I agree even though I'll admit in s11 I was very pissed when it happened. However, 22 was so boring and literally nobody outside that alliance won an hoh. I would have happily voted for Janelle to hand her the Coup d"etat. I'm still upset she was 1 point short of winning HOH the week she went home 🙄.
I was thinking the same thing
I'm not sure if you considered spinoff seasons with this list but America's nominee/vote was REALLY overpowered in OTT. For 5 of the 7 weeks it was active, the person who went home was not the person the HOH initially targeted. Also, it led to weeks where the HOH's ally went home without much control around it. For a couple weeks, the house was evenly divided in a split vote and the deciding vote was America those times. The viewers had a lot of power compared to the houseguests.
I didn’t watch that season until a couple years after it first aired so I only know what was in the edits and what I’ve read on various social media sites about that season, but it seems like the thing that saved that twist from messing up the season was the fact that the audience was just as divided as the house. And due to the very nature of OTT there were basically no casuals who were voting based solely on the edit.
I do like what they’ve done in Canada before though, where one week is Canada’s HOH. This way none of the houseguests have their HOH week nullified by an audience vote, and the twist only lasts for one week. I’m honestly surprised BBUS hasn’t taken that idea yet. I’m just remembering how the America’s vote for who to punish in BB21, how it messed with those three houseguests’ heads and what being nominated by America would do, especially if it’s implemented in a steamroll season.
BB4’s diamond veto was different from what we know as the diamond now though. It was a “diamond veto” because it allowed a veto to be won at F4 which was not allowed the previous season. It’s like how they brought the specialty “Golden” veto at F5 of BB3 to spice things up.
Imagine s11 with the Coup if Kevin quickly whispered to Lydia and blindsided Jeff, keeping Jessie 3-2 lol
Would have changed the game tremendously
Would have been amazing, but then it means we would never have had the Russell lie late game.
@@NicolasWithNoH I neeeeeed Russell 2.0
Jeff could have taken himself off with that power... Same way he changed noms.. he could have took enough himself of the block..
@@peterwong5463 blindside Jeff via the vote, because Jeff wanted Jessie Evicted, or at least keep the bigger threat to target Jeff
Season 15 is honestly such an underrated season. Sure, most of the players had little if any likability, but from a pure entertainment perspective--it really doesn't get much better. The Gina Marie/Amanda fight that resulted in the spit-take seen 'round the world is one of the most iconic moments in Big Brother history. I use that gif of Elissa on a weekly basis to this day.
I just watched recently for the first time knowing very little about it and I loved it so much. Very underrated
As a Big Brother super-fan I couldn't agree with you more about 15. My girlfriend and I personally consider Andy to "actually" be one of the greatest winner's of all time.
He strategically moved himself through a "majority-to minority-to majority again" alliance, all while keeping good will amongst the players remaining IN the game.
In our opinion he was the first player to navigate a legitimately TOXIC jury, since Jun.
A fact which is proven by multiple people later saying they would have voted Helen to win, had she made it... despite having treated her equally as hatefully.
It's one of the most socially analytical seasons they've ever cast!
@@conanmcclanahan1069 it's really fascinating if you're at all interested in human psychology/sociology. To this day, I think the hate towards Aaryn was hyperbolic and am happy she's since been killing it as a bona-fide influencer. Spencer was even more benign comparatively, and the fact he actually lost his job due to fan complaints infuriates me.
Hated the ignorance and bullying on that season it was disgusting and they didn’t even show the worst parts on tv
Season 15 has aged both like milk in the sun and fine wine simultaneously. Andy’s winning game is one of the most highly regarded, Elissa is in retrospect more likable than many gave her credit at the time, and gameplay wise it is definitely a good season with lots of moves made throughout. However, Aaryn, Ginamarie and Amanda’s behaviors only look worse in retrospect, the cast overall isn’t super likable beyond Elissa, Candice, Howard, and Helen, and it sucks to know the behaviors that made this season so problematic are just as prevalent as they were 10 years ago when this season aired. I still enjoy the season overall, but more for Andy’s win than anything else!
I think a good Big Brother video topic is to talk about the controversy of Big Brother. From S1 till S24. Some seasons have fan reactions that cause CBS to speak while others CBS ignores because of fan reaction being dramatic like Shelly voting to evict Jeff in BB13 and causing fans to threaten her family and daughter plus her job. I don't want it to be a negative video but more so I like to hear your perspective on it
Halting Hex and Identity Theft fit into the first category too for sure. Absolutely busted
The powers in BB21 and 22 with whacktivity and the basement were a lot more balanced
For three weeks of secret immunity in the game, they should have hired a 7 year old girl to enter the house and kick Paul in the nuts for every day he was in that house.
I love watching your stuff, you always think of great topics to talk about and your insight paired with the clips you use never fail to be enticing and entertaining!
That's so nice, thank you!
@@Ethanimaledo YOU think that pual what have went home in week one if he didn't win that temptation
Paul also had those friendship bracelets that made everyone a lapdog like week 1 right? It was like a final 8 type of power which I always thought was nuts. It being named after Paul's catchphrase the year prior.... I think production over saturated Paul and were thrown off by the audience reaction w/the return and like never course corrected & kinda dug their heels in with a disingenuous edit of Paul being so powerful when..... production gave out 8 leashes and Paul walked them all.... I still think if production gave Paul a less obvious puppet master edit, like the first season with the underdog edit, they wouldnt have acted so harsh/cold/removed in their social game. It felt like there was constantly reassurance it was all working out.... and Paul would have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for Josh and his meddling goodbye messages :P
Edit: after reading through some comments I learned Paul uses they/them now, so I corrected my comment. If anyone else didn't know now you know
The most ridiculous thing about Paul’s power is the fact that to my knowledge there was no deadline. He could’ve been nominated first at the final 7 and all of a sudden he just has immunity into the final 4. Busted power.
Honey wake up, a new Ethanimale video just dropped.
I don’t think there’s a single soul who LIKES the coup as a twist. It was just obnoxiously overpowered, although I would’ve loved if Boogie got to use it in All Stars.
I do like when there’s “third nominee” twists on occasion because it shakes up the strategy, but the MVP just broke that entirely. It allowed Amanda and Helen to completely run a majority of BB15 by weaponizing Rachel’s popularity. I much preferred the Roadkill/Temptation nominees as that was a little more random and involved a competition where people were on equal footing.
The problem with Roadkill is that it gives a majority another out to get their way even if an underdog is HOH, since they can win Roadkill and evict their own nominee. Temptation at least gives more outs for people to defend themselves from a backdoor attempt, which happened a lot during Paul's supermajority in BB19. I wouldn't mind seeing that or Safety Suite return.
Boogie did use it. He threatened george Nd intimated he had
It ahich scares george into replacing will with howie....on twenty minutes notice. A move boogie never got credit for just same old people calling him a sidekick. He is no sidekick
Haven’t started watching yet…but the guaranteed top 2 are Jeff’s Coup D’état and Matt’s Diamond POV
CDT really was BS. Poor Chima.
Funny how we all wanted something like that to happen in 22 but it didn't :/
I remembered there was a segment where ED, Dani Reyes, Mike Boogie and Janelle were told to give their opinions on the late game bit of BB11.
Mike mentioned that us viewers should give her a break because the houseguests can be unpredictable at times to the point of doing unexpected things.
Meanwhile ED was like There were 8 people left and she completely lost sight of the goal, which is the half a million prize money
Pretty sure Boogie actually lost the coup d'etat since he told Will about it, when it was supposed to be anonynous. Thankfully for him, he was in a good enough position to survive those two weeks without it.
Thats not true. He threatened george with it and never used it. He did not lose it
It will not let me post the link but there is an article describing the event if you just google "mike boogie coup d'etat", and it's also somewhere in the jokers archives
Poor Mr. Pectacular. He gets evicted in 2 consecutive seasons due to a twist. As unlikely as it might be, i hope we get to see him play the game again.
It would actually be pretty funny if he played again, only to get screwed over by yet another twist. lol
I’m really surprised you didn’t mention the Hacker Twist on this list
Hacker was very close and the only thing that stopped me was that they don’t pick veto replacement, so there’s a really obvious way to “fight against” the hacker (and everyone is aware of it) as opposed to something like the MVP where nobody can do anything about it
@@Ethanimale Exactly, because remember that Haleigh was hacker on Angela's HOH, and her best friend/number one ally in Bayleigh still went out the door that week
I was hoping we’d have some BBCAN twist like BBCAN5’s Relay to Jury twist for Neda
They tried so hard to rig it for Paul, it wasn't even subtle. Made BB19 so unwatchable (among other reasons)
ahhhh, the bonus life. the objectively funniest outcome for a twist.
You should make a video of the most unfair punishments (like Sam being a robot in BB20)
none of these should even be considered twists. They are simply ways in which the producers influence the game
I was so pissed at America for putting Elissa on the block after the MVP twist lmao
I'm not pissed. The twist was only created to give Elissa an unfair advantage. Her fans were too stupid to see that the twist had changed.
The Diamond power of veto needs to come back.
Imagine how different season 19 would have been if they just canceled the evictions after the nominee quit. They should have done that. Cody might have favor for a few more weeks and maybe Paul isn’t drooled over up until final 2
Cody is the reason that season sucked
BANGER VIDEO AS ALWAYS BRO
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What are your thoughts on the Coin of Destiny event from BB23? It was sort of a watered down Coup d'etat, since it could undo all of the HOH's power. Except I think the coin flip happened prior to the POV? I don't remember exactly how it worked, tbh, since Tiffany was controlling Claire's nominations either way.
If I'm being totally honest, I did plan on including that as a side mention after talking about the Coup, but I got a bit burnt out and ended up not including it lol. I think it was a much, MUCH more balanced version for what it's worth
Fair enough. Lol Thanks for responding.
Even tho the panic power didn’t get used in BB21 it still feel like it did, since I believe they threatened the holder into not using it bc of the diamond veto potential
Yes, correct, she leveraged just holding it into forcing the HoH (I think it was Cliff) into putting up someone different.
The Split House Twist from last season was the best twist CBS ever did. Until, Amazing Race did No Nonelimination legs.
You forgot to mention that the Power of Coup d'etat removes the hoh status from the current hoh.
I genuinely think something like the diamond veto would be more of a staple in the game. As it stands the game is super comp focused and the hoh especially gets way too much power. If you have a majority alliance it becomes pretty easy to sweep the game. At the very least the diamond veto can give actual power to someone on the outs
I don't know if this would rank, but I was just thinking in recent BBCAN occurrence, the Fatal Feast week, rendered Kuzie's HOH useless, because she was HOH and didn't really nominate anyone. They used the chain of safety, and I thought that this was overpowered in the other direction. Reaaaaaallly bad, and put a target on that HOH who couldn't really accomplish anything they wanted to.
Yeah that's just an absolutely useless twist for Kuzie, it was a detriment for her game
Ethan you also couldve mentioned that for the MVP twist if it didn’t exist Elissa wouldve been sent home week 1 or 2 as well as they switched it to America voting for the MVP because the houseguests were using Elissa for gameplay with the MVP
Didn’t Paul also have the friendship bracelets week one making him able to create alliances moreso than anyone else on top of 3 weeks of protection?
As for BB15, as overpowered as the MVP was, I can’t imagine what would have happened with that season otherwise.
For the Coup d’État, I really wish we would have had that season without it and see how it would have played out. Granted, we did get the Russell lie late game which was phenomenal gameplay by Kevin and Nathalie.
I understand why people don’t like Paul, personally liked him, hated Cody and Jess, transphobic morons, but that pendant was the most busted thing ever.
They really need twists that reveal people’s allegiances. The chopping block game or survey game that survivor uses would be perfect for HOH comps and I’m baffled that they don’t used
I knew there were issues when the ad's starting with season 8 forward said the word "twist" as much as possible..... BB today lacks confidence in itself to let the game play out without giant twists
Actually fun fact:if CG put up either will or boogie. The Booger is using that Coup De Tat and who knows what goes on
I actually think the BB12 Diamond Power of Veto could work if the person who was HoH when it was used got immunity for themself + 1 other person of their choosing for the next week
The immunity would be granted on the spot, so if the HoH gives immunity to John then John cannot be the DPOV user’s replacement nominee AND the outgoing HoH and John cannot be nominated next week
Pretty sure America voted Aaryn to be the 3rd nominee, but since she was nominated normally, Elissa had enough detractors to get the 2nd most votes.
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Ok why does he look like ray william Johnson combined with Rumpelstilzchen from shrek 💀💀
I remember bb15 and the most "likable guy" in the house, taking his clothes off in the backyard and running around completely naked. He thought it would be funny, but the rest of the house did not. 😅 He ended up being the first one evicted. If he wouldn't have done that, it would have been someone else evicted first, instead of him. 😂😁
Meanwhile Ian did the same thing in bb14 and won the season lmao
Lol I knew the coup was gonna be on here 😂
Looks like me and the producers need to have a little bit of a talk...
The MVP twist was done that way on purpose. CBS created the MVP twist to give Elissa an unfair advantage. It completely altered the game. If I were on this cast, I would never have voted for Elissa to win just because of the MVP twist.
I would have, because it wasn't Elissa's decision to have that twist in the game, and she wasn't the one controlling the MVP votes, so I'd rather base my vote on how she played the game using the factors that she actually could control
we need a what if for everyone of these powers if they weren't used
Still confused why Bailiegh didn't use her ID theft week 6 when Angela won HOH
Why does Sam read as though she just learned how a week ago?
what about the have not secret power/twist in bbcan 3 that sarah and brittnee got?
What if someone else got the coup d'etat in BB7. Then eviction night you put Chill Town on the block. How would that season have gone?
I didn't mind the Coup in season 7 cause they had to earn it. It was BS that Jeff got it via fan vote.
Let’s just be happy Paul’s week 2 HOh still counted as his 3 weeks and they didn’t extend it to week 4
didnt the Coup also happened in Canada 3?
Chima did get screwed
These twists may be overpowered but I got a twist on one of my ideas.
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The MVP twist... if you think that's broken try the early UK show. Literally the nomination and eviction was entirely public vote. Non Hoh, no veto. If you get the least votes you leave. Get the most in the final week - win the money.
That’s just bb1
That's how BB1 US worked.
Yay new video!!!
Ugh I still get mad about that power Jeff got. I like him and Jordan but him and Jesse were battling and they should have had to beat the other fairly. It’s like how Paul ruined Cody in week one over a power.
Looks like you’ll need to make a new list with the Deepfake HoH power it’s SOOOOO overpowered
LITERALLY. They were like “how do we make the coup d’état even more unfair?” And then came up with the deepfake.
@@AmityOhCramity98and Quinn still managed to mess it up
I came to this video because of the Deepfake HOH as well. The Deepfake HOH is definitely up there with the most overpowered twists/powers in BB history.
Funnily enough, BB19 also provided the houseguests with the Golden Apple to tempt someone with safety for the first week, and Paul has actually mentioned in the live feeds that they figured the apple was designed for them. ruclips.net/video/gTRtGBJgOKY/видео.html
So, even if America hadn't voted to give Paul the Pendant of Protection, they could have potentially used the Golden Apple as an out for the start of the season on top of that (although Josh obviously thwarted that possibility without intending to). lol
Production doesn't bring players back for a 2nd season unless they can be sure they will stick around for a while. =P
They had safety net after safety net to ensure that Paul was going to be safe one way or another in the beginning of the game 😂
Except for Jessie :(
Jessie has gotta be the most robbed player ever lol, it would’ve been such a better 2nd half of the season if he were still there.
BBCAN 7’s Blood Veto could’ve been great on a different season loved how it seemed at the time. (Spoiler Alert) I wish Kyra would’ve used it to save Kiera but no had to be a useless houseguest.
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I never liked Jeff, so I was disgusted when he was given that power.
Tyler’s Cloud Pissed me off dat was horrible
@425v-s Exactly it Made me Mad bc we all knew he’s wasn’t going anywhere so the Cloud basically was like Ok Your safe for 8 weeks
Haven’t watched yet.
But I’ll say MVP from 15, cause that was probably just the first instance of rigging that I noticed as a viewer.
And obviously the coup
good guess!
Coup D'etat is horrible. I hope BB never brings it back.
Sam: the 🌈 chance 🌈 to return to the game
No Hacker? Cause the Hacker was RIDICULOUS as a power.
Hacker is #6
@@Ethanimale And the Coin of Destiny?
Hacker isn't as OP as the rest of them, because it's known to the entire house, and as we saw the first week it was introduced, the Hacker can still have their closest ally go out the door
Yeah the new seasons suck, I hope they change the way the diary room is done, and see most people prefer the old format
Banger
Imagine if they used the Do or Die twist and it got Taylor or Tiffany evicted.
BBCAN's Dead Last twist was basically Big Brother's equivalent of Do or Die. Glad they quickly ditched it, it had potential to break the game as much as Battle of the Block did in strongly encouraging a big alliance of all the comp beasts.
Chima's reaction to having the Coup d'tat used against her HOH was, as far as I was concerned, 100% justified. Having a rare HOH win for a black woman yanked away from her made her clearly decide to get herself removed from the game, by doing everything she could, so she refused to wear her mike and eventually she just tossed it into the pool. I thought she was completely in the right and at the least, should have become eligible to play for the next HOH, if not just having her HOH stretched to two weeks. Let's face it. The power wasn't designed to be racist, but it worked out in such a way that it became racist.
It's the name of the game. As the saying goes, "expect the unexpected." That move by Jeff _was_ exactly that. There was nothing racial about it; it had nothing to do with the fact that Jeff was white and Chima was black, it was based on just pure strategy.
I hated Jesse
BB19 was the worst season
Man,
Production sucks.
I have ZERO problem with the coup d etat, but given to someone with no competition or sacrifice is a bunch of crap!!
During the pendant of protection segment you misused paul’s pronouns, just wanted to let you know i didn’t want you to get backlash from people.
Shoot I'm usually really good with using their preferred pronouns, but every now and then I slip up and don't catch it while editing
@@Ethanimale i’m the same way dawg it fucks me up especially if i have known them or known of them for years
@@Ethanimale No big deal...mistakes happen, especially when you're used to referring to someone by one set of pronouns and they later end up using different ones, and we all know you didn't intentionally misgender Paul
Not gonna lie, a funny scenario would be: Imagine a season, BBUS vs BBUK. Houseguests from both US and UK competing against each other. For a good player, I’d like to imagine Sam Evans from BBUK14 in a different format