"i do think they kinda like each other a bit" "i think its very recognizable they do like each other" "for me they are a little bit in love" IM SCREAMING
Eh. The creators are definitely leaning into it, but the Moomin Official RUclips Chanell is actually run by the Canadian Company Wildbrain, which bought the rights to distribute the 90s Moomin animated series in Canada via RUclips and share promos for other Moomin media. So they aren't actually involved with the production or anything.
THE WAY I SAW THIS AND IMMEDIETLY STARTED LAUGHING LMFAOOO TYSM FOR MAKING THIS I HAVENT EVEN WATCHED IT YET BUT THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE IDEA EDIT: HOLY FUCK I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE I THOUGHT U WERE GONNA DO A FAKE VOICE OVER BUT ITS????? ACTUALLY???????? REAL??????????????????????? HUH??????????????????????????????????????
I completely freaked out (in a positive way) when I heard this part of the podcast it’s just. Bvnmedbvjhdebvjhdevvhjedbv! “For me they are a little bit in love.” !!! Finally! Yes! This! Abhjfgjh4jehrfg!
The 90s series is good but made their relationship kinda weird, maybe it’s just the English dub that made Snufkin sound like a mature man and Moomin sound like a innocent child
If Moomin and Snufkin are supposed to be gay for each other, why did the comic strip (by Tove) make Snorkmaiden Moomin's girlfriend and constantly keep shipping each other together?
1. Same sex relationships were literally illegal in finland at the time (decriminalizd in 1971 - the comic strips launched in 1947). Even to this day there are unfortunately many, MANY people agants lgbt representation...just imagine what would've been back then 2. Moomin's relationship with Snorkmaiden is a blatant parody of overused and pointless straight relationships in media. They epitomize al the wrong tropes, all the stereotypes of two protagonists who date each oher just "because". There's no actual developement (if not in the new series, sorta?) or chemistry. On the other hand there's a lot of pinig and deep love between Moomin and Snufkin, in the books & any other adaptation. You can read it both as romantic or platonic love, but it's deeper than anything he's got going on with Snorkmaiden
@@mumrikvodnik 1) Then, why give Moomin a girlfriend at all? 2) Then, why does the comic repeatedly have heartwarming moments between if them if it's supposed to be a terrible relationship? Also, it would help if the video cited evidence from Tove's actual Moomin works and not a cartoon made almost two decades after he death.
@@a.dennis4835 1. To mock boring heteronormative relationships with no tail and no end 2. Also to mock boring heteronormative relationships with no tail and no end, tbh 😂 The "heartwarming" moments are more of a mockery of corny and timeworn tropes in romance novels On top of that lots of the comics were made by Tove's brother. In the actual books written by her, their relationship is clearly more satirical/unserious while the interactions with Snufkin always have some kind of impact on his character developement and emotional maturity. I'm not responsible for that podcast in particular: they were specifically taking about the new series and direction of the Moomin franchise, but there are many other essays talking about Moomin and Snufkin relationship in the books and other media
@@mumrikvodnik I've only read Tove's comics. There, I didn't really get a sense that the romance between Moomin and Snorkmaiden was meant to be satirical. Did Tove say somewhere that this was her intention?
@@a.dennis4835 She didn't release any declaration because it wasn't the custom at the time. But yeah, from the book it's more clear their relationshp is meant to be funny/satirical. In the last books Moomin even calls her "friend" instead of "girlfriend" like in the first ones. They go from two kids playing lovers to two young adults questioning their place in the world and in their personal interconnections with others
I hate to dissapoint you, but from my point of view Moomin is just a clingy extrovert and he is just attached to Snufkin. They love eachother, but not in the romantic way. They are best friends and from what I know Snufkin is based on creator's uncle (but your version could be true I think, idk). Yeah, those are my thoughts.😊
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"i do think they kinda like each other a bit" "i think its very recognizable they do like each other" "for me they are a little bit in love" IM SCREAMING
THEY FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED IT
The fact that Moomin Official uploaded this podcast means they're totally cool with the ship existing!! We won gays I mean guys I mean gays
Awww ❤❤❤ yeeesssssss i am happy now
Eh. The creators are definitely leaning into it, but the Moomin Official RUclips Chanell is actually run by the Canadian Company Wildbrain, which bought the rights to distribute the 90s Moomin animated series in Canada via RUclips and share promos for other Moomin media. So they aren't actually involved with the production or anything.
AYYY, WE WON :D
HUZZAH
AYYY, WE WON :D
HUZZAH
Pffftt you mean gays I mean guys I mean…
*I’M DOING CARTWHEELS I HOPE THAT EVERY SNUFMIN ENJOYER SEES THIS*
I SIT
IN MY DESOLATE ROOM
NO LIGHTS
NO MUSIC
JUST SNUFMIN
i just woke up and i’m greeted by snufmin becoming cannon. my life is complete and i can die happy
Don't die yet
*Yk its a thing, when literally everyone says it-*
Oh my god, the legend
He's here!!!
OMG ITS THE GUY
ª ºk
Wise guy here
"They're a little bit in love" Still crying and loving this line
As friends.
Snufmin - reason of life
I WAS LISTENING TO THIS WHILE I WAS ON THE BUS AND I USED ALL OF MY STRENGHT TO NOT START LAUGHING AND DOING WEIRD THINGS
SO THIS IS WHAT THE MOOMINS FANDOM WOKE UP FOR OH MY GOOODDDD
Trying to scream as low as I can but it's hard. Snufmin actually being acknowledged? I hope i'm not dreaming
THE WAY I SAW THIS AND IMMEDIETLY STARTED LAUGHING LMFAOOO TYSM FOR MAKING THIS I HAVENT EVEN WATCHED IT YET BUT THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE IDEA
EDIT: HOLY FUCK I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE I THOUGHT U WERE GONNA DO A FAKE VOICE OVER BUT ITS????? ACTUALLY???????? REAL??????????????????????? HUH??????????????????????????????????????
It is real 😭🖤
WELL MAKE IT CANON THEN
"For me they are a little bit in love" 😂
A LOTTLE😭✨
What does that have?? It's canon and supports
I LEAVE THE FANDOM FOR A BIT THIS HAPPENS?? OMG I LOVE SNUFMIN THEYRE SO REAL I CANT BELIEVE IT....
Acknowledgement feels very nice
I completely freaked out (in a positive way) when I heard this part of the podcast it’s just. Bvnmedbvjhdebvjhdevvhjedbv! “For me they are a little bit in love.” !!! Finally! Yes! This! Abhjfgjh4jehrfg!
i am smiling so hard
The 90s series is good but made their relationship kinda weird, maybe it’s just the English dub that made Snufkin sound like a mature man and Moomin sound like a innocent child
People just have voices like that dude idk what to tell you
I'M SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS
I’m gonna cry
CANON!!!
OMG!!!! I always saw myself in moomin and this makes it even better!! We're both lovesick gays, I love it!!!
I'm so glad I checked back on this channel when I did
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDD
WE WON
The way we won
LETSS GOOOOOO SNUFMIN FOREVER BABY
YAASSSS I KNEW IT WILL BE CANON BABY!!!!
i needed this after round 7 in alien stage
Lmfao didn’t expect alien stage being mentioned here of all places 💀
@ i know but
OH IN A BLINK GONE-
OH MY GOSH ITS HAPENING EVERYBODY STAY CALM
*EVERYBODY STAY FKIN CALM!!*
Edit: I hope this isn't just a poor attempt at queerbaiting :((
I hope so dude but I have a feeling they may not go through with that too
Edit: (( by the “not go through with that” I mean the queerbaiting)
I love it ❤
For me they’re in love
😮😮😮😮
IF THEYRE IN LOVE WHY ARENT THEY MARRIED COME ON BRO LETS GOOOOOO LMAOOOOO 💕💕💕💕😭😭😭😭
OMGGG YEAAAAAAAA
CHAT IS THIS REAL
YES
HOLLY CRAP YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Well, have you seen the animatics? Most of the animators working for the studio probably do ship them, even a little bit lol
АЭАЭОАОАОАОА НЕУЖЕЛИИИ
O my GOD
AYO 👀
😃😃😃😃😃
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
If Moomin and Snufkin are supposed to be gay for each other, why did the comic strip (by Tove) make Snorkmaiden Moomin's girlfriend and constantly keep shipping each other together?
1. Same sex relationships were literally illegal in finland at the time (decriminalizd in 1971 - the comic strips launched in 1947). Even to this day there are unfortunately many, MANY people agants lgbt representation...just imagine what would've been back then
2. Moomin's relationship with Snorkmaiden is a blatant parody of overused and pointless straight relationships in media. They epitomize al the wrong tropes, all the stereotypes of two protagonists who date each oher just "because". There's no actual developement (if not in the new series, sorta?) or chemistry.
On the other hand there's a lot of pinig and deep love between Moomin and Snufkin, in the books & any other adaptation.
You can read it both as romantic or platonic love, but it's deeper than anything he's got going on with Snorkmaiden
@@mumrikvodnik
1) Then, why give Moomin a girlfriend at all?
2) Then, why does the comic repeatedly have heartwarming moments between if them if it's supposed to be a terrible relationship?
Also, it would help if the video cited evidence from Tove's actual Moomin works and not a cartoon made almost two decades after he death.
@@a.dennis4835
1. To mock boring heteronormative relationships with no tail and no end
2. Also to mock boring heteronormative relationships with no tail and no end, tbh 😂 The "heartwarming" moments are more of a mockery of corny and timeworn tropes in romance novels
On top of that lots of the comics were made by Tove's brother. In the actual books written by her, their relationship is clearly more satirical/unserious while the interactions with Snufkin always have some kind of impact on his character developement and emotional maturity.
I'm not responsible for that podcast in particular: they were specifically taking about the new series and direction of the Moomin franchise, but there are many other essays talking about Moomin and Snufkin relationship in the books and other media
@@mumrikvodnik I've only read Tove's comics. There, I didn't really get a sense that the romance between Moomin and Snorkmaiden was meant to be satirical. Did Tove say somewhere that this was her intention?
@@a.dennis4835 She didn't release any declaration because it wasn't the custom at the time. But yeah, from the book it's more clear their relationshp is meant to be funny/satirical. In the last books Moomin even calls her "friend" instead of "girlfriend" like in the first ones. They go from two kids playing lovers to two young adults questioning their place in the world and in their personal interconnections with others
is this real
I hate to dissapoint you, but from my point of view Moomin is just a clingy extrovert and he is just attached to Snufkin. They love eachother, but not in the romantic way. They are best friends and from what I know Snufkin is based on creator's uncle (but your version could be true I think, idk). Yeah, those are my thoughts.😊
It's based on one of the closest friends of Tove Jansson, and this guy was her fiancé for a while
@marylamb7879 ok
But Snufkin definitely does in the 2019 one, not sure about Moomintroll tho(The podcast was talking about the 2019 one)