African History Unauthorised | Peter Jones on Zambia 02

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @clivemidlane8152
    @clivemidlane8152 3 года назад +10

    Hell I'm loving this, just can't get enough as a Rhodesian/Zimbabwean now living in Zambia.

  • @bethlloyd5295
    @bethlloyd5295 3 года назад +5

    Went back to Zambia after some 45 years and was brought to tears by the customs official at the airport looking in my passport and saying "Welcome home". Loving this series.

    • @rosemarystapleton3625
      @rosemarystapleton3625 3 года назад +3

      Same happened to me Beth, it's never happened in the UK ! The Zambian official said what took you so long to come home, we need you back💖

  • @TrevorD2502
    @TrevorD2502 2 года назад +2

    I'm Australian, your history talks on Zambia & Rhodesia are fascinating thankyou.

  • @harryanderson7644
    @harryanderson7644 3 года назад +4

    Lived in Kitwe, 1959 to 1970 and learned so much from this talk. Thank you Peter.

  • @xpressotel
    @xpressotel 2 года назад +3

    Honestly,history teachers could take a leaf out of Peters book,articulate ,enthusiastic and interested in the topic ,thanks boys.

  • @roberthart6677
    @roberthart6677 3 года назад +8

    Amazed to hear about the Woolworths and Marks & Spencer connection.

  • @AnthonyJones-pd9oe
    @AnthonyJones-pd9oe 3 года назад +5

    Hannes, Peter I just love listening to these stories. My family are all from the old Rhodesia and I sadly don’t know many of these interesting facts. I will be sure to pull them on it when I see them again. Rich history to teach my kids as well. Thank you

  • @estellawobker3568
    @estellawobker3568 3 года назад +3

    Interesting history thank you. An Old Girl in KZN SOUTH AFRICA.

  • @stephenmcqueen9493
    @stephenmcqueen9493 3 года назад +6

    Brilliant thanks for the great history lesson we don't hear about it much in the UK thank you

  • @maxbrown8665
    @maxbrown8665 2 года назад +2

    Thank you gentlemen for the "Truth History".

  • @brianandtarryn
    @brianandtarryn 3 года назад +9

    Another excellent interview.

  • @xpressotel
    @xpressotel 2 года назад +2

    Probably would have paid more attention to Peter had he been my history teacher at Plumtree-articulate,knowledgeable and really enthusiastic about the topic nice work Hannes.

  • @hermitzl6494
    @hermitzl6494 3 года назад +7

    Thankyou very much John and Hannes. I am greatly enjoying this content.

  • @rogermoore6726
    @rogermoore6726 3 года назад +9

    A great interview, thank you for sharing your vast knowledge on Rhodsia, Zambia and rugby stories 🙏👍.

    • @fightingmenofrhodesia
      @fightingmenofrhodesia  3 года назад

      Our pleasure!

    • @davidbarker6660
      @davidbarker6660 2 года назад

      Viagra won't make u James Bond, but it will make u Roger Moore🤣🤣🤣

    • @rogermoore6726
      @rogermoore6726 2 года назад

      @@davidbarker6660 Bro I am alive 🙏🦍🤜🤛👍😉

  • @FrancesMacaulayForde
    @FrancesMacaulayForde 3 года назад +11

    Yes, I look forward to Part 3. This is such an enjoyable look back at the so many good things which most people are not aware of. So interesting to hear about Bomber Harris' connection to Rhodesia as well. My dad was a Master Bomber on Lancasters, a Pathfinder, Flt Lt. J.A. Forde DFC who flew 60 missions. After the war he ran Ndola Airport for a while, also spent time up in Kasama where when a call came through to say a plane was landing, they had to shoo the animals off the runway and light candles in paper bags along the strip! Thank you both. Keep this series going, please.

    • @projones2988
      @projones2988 3 года назад +3

      Frances, I have this information on your father but alas no photo of him in uniform. Do you have one perhaps I could have for my document on RAF personnel from NR?

    • @idleonlooker1078
      @idleonlooker1078 3 года назад +2

      A Bomber Command aircrew veteran? My respects to your father!! 👍

    • @FrancesMacaulayForde
      @FrancesMacaulayForde 3 года назад +1

      @@projones2988 What information do you have on my father, please? I looked at your link which has no information about you or your project. I am very interested.

    • @FrancesMacaulayForde
      @FrancesMacaulayForde 3 года назад +1

      @@projones2988 Are you the Peter Jones in the documentary? If so I am happy to provide photo.

    • @FrancesMacaulayForde
      @FrancesMacaulayForde 3 года назад +1

      My apologies - I didn't realize you were one and the same... please tell me where I should send a copy of the photo. Again, I have thoroughly enjoyed this video and learnt so much. My parents have been gone since the early 80's but I would love to know more about their early time in NR. Did you know Dad?

  • @davetyson7128
    @davetyson7128 3 года назад +4

    Keep up this amazing work!

  • @yaakovcomley
    @yaakovcomley 3 года назад +7

    Excellent!!!! Thank you for the wonderful content. Keep it up...

  • @KernowekTim
    @KernowekTim 3 года назад +5

    This series goes from strength to strength. I really appreciate your work John; Hannes, in all that you do to educate us viewers. It is seldom too late to sit and listen to superbly delivered history lessons. You both certainly know some very special human beings, and for them to impart their collective knowledge and memories so accurately is testimony to great strength in depth. Thank you both once again. Also, a huge, "Thank you", to Peter Jones.

  • @barracudabossgaming6853
    @barracudabossgaming6853 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love the comment about playing with chongololos and the smell of fresh earth when it rains, been there and done that. Rhodesia was a great place for children to grow up in, running around bare foot in the bush which was our playground.

  • @tonykirkham4087
    @tonykirkham4087 3 года назад +2

    Great stories, keep them coming, I learned so much about my own country. Thank you.

  • @andrewcockburn1739
    @andrewcockburn1739 3 года назад +3

    Thank you Hannes , John and Peter Jones for a fascinating insight into Zambian history. Enjoying the tie ups with sport... World Cup rowing on the Zambezi, beating the AB's and the bridge construction being fine engineering. I now live in VicFalls formerly called Livingstone I heard?

    • @projones2988
      @projones2988 3 года назад

      Hi Andrew. Livingstone is still Livingstone and is on the northern side. Vic Falls is on the southern side.

  • @johncollins5796
    @johncollins5796 3 года назад +2

    Brilliant interview. Please keep these coming.

  • @umvhu
    @umvhu 2 месяца назад +1

    "Those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it." George Santayana 1863-1952

  • @Hermann-lz2jb
    @Hermann-lz2jb 3 года назад +6

    Amazing content!! Thank you for all the wonderful info, cheers

  • @johnsmith-ht3sy
    @johnsmith-ht3sy 3 года назад +9

    I live in England and due to My Rhodesian accent the minute I start speaking I get asked , " Where are you from ?"
    I reply " Rhodesia " they ask " Where is that ?" I reply " Its now called Zambia " then the standard answer " Oh South Africa " Never mind the History of Northern Rhodesia, folks here just lump Southern Africa into South Africa.

    • @idleonlooker1078
      @idleonlooker1078 3 года назад +2

      Yes! Unfortunately the same sort of thing when, purely by misidentifying their accent, Canadians get labelled as Americans!! 🙄

  • @daveludick1572
    @daveludick1572 3 года назад +3

    As a Zambian born old man, I so enjoyed the 2 episodes with Hannes Wessels and Peter Jones. Could Peter also share on the part played by Harrison Clark and 'Chiripula' Stevenson as well as Stewart Gore-Brown. I do not recall Wilbur Smith from Broken Hill and I was born there in 1940,

  • @seanbryan157
    @seanbryan157 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for a fascinating interview ...so much untold history

  • @ric6383
    @ric6383 3 года назад +2

    Great to listen to, Kitwe 1971-4. Coming back to UK was no longer like 'going home'.

  • @cyberphox1
    @cyberphox1 3 года назад +4

    Interesting stuff, look forward to the next episode. You need to write a book Peter.

    • @projones2988
      @projones2988 3 года назад +2

      Phocas, I am working on it. Thanks for your encouraging words.

    • @FrancesMacaulayForde
      @FrancesMacaulayForde 3 года назад +1

      @@projones2988 I'd like to purchase it when you publish.

  • @stephenward3468
    @stephenward3468 3 года назад +5

    You have just reminded me of Zambia's NASA training.My dad and i saw the BBC documentary on tv when they rolled that 44 gallon drum down a hill/gomo with that aspiring trainee bouncing all over the placeLOL.Even the one reporter said are you guys serious about this training method,the reply was he has to get used to the G FORCES in space.LOL

  • @tightcamper
    @tightcamper 3 года назад +3

    My mother always said that Northern Rhodesia was ahead of us Southern Rhodesians. She maintained that Salisbury owed its growth to The Federation, without it Bulawayo would have been the principal city.

  • @MOOSEDOWNUNDER
    @MOOSEDOWNUNDER 3 года назад +4

    Fascinating guys. I wonder if Northern Rhodesia's Broken Hill is named after Australia's NSW Broken Hill 1844, silver, tin and copper mine?. Great work team.

    • @stephenward3468
      @stephenward3468 3 года назад +2

      Yes Moose sadly here in the UK hear my accent,oh what part of SA do you come from?I am Rhodesian by upbringing.

    • @jrannandale
      @jrannandale 3 года назад +4

      Yes moose discovered by a prospector from Broken Hill in Australia in 1906, he discovered an outcrop of copper on a kope but under neath that was lead and zinc. I worked there from 1973 to 1987.

    • @MOOSEDOWNUNDER
      @MOOSEDOWNUNDER 3 года назад +1

      @@jrannandale Much appreciated.

  • @michaelkalaluka3674
    @michaelkalaluka3674 Год назад +1

    This is excellent am so glad to have the opportunity to watch this . Please share contact of the gentlemen via email or how we can get in touch. We need to know more about who EW tarry was , the Almer may cemetery etc

  • @phillip-nielalbertyn2188
    @phillip-nielalbertyn2188 3 года назад +2

    Thank you so much much Hannes and Pieter for this amazing insight in the history in Southern Africa of whom modern day liberals don't want the world to know!

  • @peternorbury
    @peternorbury 3 года назад +4

    John, Peter, just a slight correction. Wilbur Smith went to Cordwalles School which is in Pietermaritzburg and yes, he did go on to Michaelhouse, my alma mater.

    • @peternorbury
      @peternorbury 3 года назад +2

      I certainly hope there is another episode in this series. I so interresting to learn about Zambia's history and I agree with Peter that we should be promoting the good things that the settlers did for Zambia and Rhodesia, and not the bad things.

    • @fightingmenofrhodesia
      @fightingmenofrhodesia  3 года назад +2

      I am busy trying to upload a documentary on David Livingstone which covers some of that territory. Not easy doing an upload with Eskom's loadshedding... eish!

    • @projones2988
      @projones2988 3 года назад +2

      Hi Peter. I believe be started off at Broken hill for a few terms before going down south

  • @marcrobitaille4159
    @marcrobitaille4159 3 года назад +3

    ThankYou for the Series...... ‘Having Served in a Canadian Rifle Regiment, directly Related to the Royal Green Jackets, I find it odd/awkward that you relate George Washington to Rifle Regiments,,, I certainly don’t know everything, but I never heard anything in Regimental History about any such Relation. Thanks again for this Series.
    “Hosti Acie Nominati”

  • @charlieking-williams9725
    @charlieking-williams9725 3 года назад +4

    Good morning Gents. Again thank you..
    Apparently My Great Grandfather "Charles Alfred King" was the first mining engineer that actually opened up the copper belt...???? Should have paid more attention to my Grand parents as a Litie and our history..!!!

    • @projones2988
      @projones2988 3 года назад +1

      Charlie, get the story out there are far as you know it. Others can add what they know.

  • @oneplot5132
    @oneplot5132 3 года назад +2

    Zambians seem dam happy they were not Southern Rhodesian. invitation not invasion has made a happier nation

  • @mattyallen3396
    @mattyallen3396 3 года назад +1

    Was the All blacks at full strength? Or did we have to leave the Maoris at home?

    • @projones2988
      @projones2988 3 года назад

      In the first game 13 of the ABs were capped in their careers. In the second game 8 changes were made and 14 of the players were capped during that tour to strengthen the team. They were at pretty much full strength and clearly they thought the only uncapped player, W. J. M. Conrad at scrum half, was not the weak link so he played in both matches.

  • @joejohns3424
    @joejohns3424 3 года назад +3

    Pick on the Jews jewish revolutionaries killed the czars grandfather Alexander the second in 1881