The one great thing about this scene is how little blue team cares about Locke. Guy has a gun pointed at them and is commanding them to stand down but they just look at Master Chief and casually leave when he tells them to.
@@eomersimbajon2938 I mean, it's a cutscene, so obviously they're gonna focus on Locke and Chief, but in my head cannon, Buck is just standing there like 👀 I believe I made a mistake, if I stay quiet, maybe Chief won't notice I'm here.
The fight would have made more sense if Master Chief just stood there taking shots until his visor broke, because he doesn't want to break children, rather than scaling him down and barely able to hold his own. This is the same man that jettisoned himself into space to deliver a nuke to an enemy vessel.
Yea no one wanted to see locke stand a chance agaisnt the OG Master. Master should have destroyed locke and his entire team, beating them senseless but not killing them. Just MC showing the children who the alpha really is. Instead we got a fairly equal fight that was won by mere "experience" and not total obliteration. You can attempt to tell a good story and maybe fail (in this case they did) or you can just give the customers what they want... crazy idea i know.
@@stephenpicciano6811 Even in the lore, the Spartan IIIs are supposed to be the (relatively) cheap McDonald's burger to a five star restaurant's steak. Cheaper, mass produced faire compared to a masterfully cooked and seasoned dish.
This scene could of been 100x better if we actually were playing as Locke and fighting Master Chief. Why did they just make it a cut scene? They promoted the game with this and we got a cut scene lol....
@@patriousthefallenknight3185 bro thank fuck someone can relate, I ain't ever passed the missions. Ain't completed it ever. I still want to but I don't. It's so shit. I forgot what mission it was but it was the one with the mongoose on the rocky acacias planet I played
Fun fact, chief has a covenant kill count in the low millions. Most were from dropping ships out of the sky but still, why lock thought it would be a good idea to try and fight the only current living Spartan with a hyper lethal designation is beyond me
There were people watching: he didn't want to be that guy that pussed out last minute. Even if they said they understood, he'd know they were judging him for life
This is the reason why i would love to see the only other spartan to get hyper-lethal (noble 6) to fight chief I personally think it may be a somewhat fair fight
@@Coercioner noble 6 was a spartan III if I'm remembering correctly and for him to be the only spartan III classified hyper lethal says it all, so I agree a fight between he and chief would be legendary but ultimately chief would win since he's a spartan II.
Now that the librarian accelerated his evolution (Ancient Human Genes which is Astronomical in quality) locke should be grateful chief did not obliterated him
Yes I've watched the video and enjoyed. Spartan II's was faster and stronger than the UNSC Spartan IV's. They were naturally acrobatic. They experienced time differently. I like reading the books. Falling to reach must have taken awhile.
@@dionmcleod5350 did you see the one where Chief takes down all of Osiris with just one knife, body checks against a wall, John wick style camera style? I ask because I’m on a banned list for sharing links on RUclips. It’s more retarded than take two interactive’s E3 2021’s presentation.
i love that in the lore Chief, using his enhanced relfexes and strength, literally pimp slaps a missile the day he's pairs up with cortana. Then here, they have him fighting like a washed up boxer in a bar fight. It would have really been nice if the team making Halo 5 actually gave a damn about the lore, let alone know any of it lol. The fact they didnt think Chief was Halo's main character still baffles me to this day.
@@Lightray110 in Halo 4 chief is taller than Palmer. In Halo 5 Palmer is the same size as Locke, who is the same size as chief. Also only the Spartan 2s got bigger on that scale to tower above everyone else.
343 also doesn't understand you don't go into battle with 2 clips and hope to scrounge ammo and weapons on the field. In the original, a player could carry 60 rounds in the assault rifle and carry 600 more. (Not that the assault rifle was very effective, but once loaded up, you didn't run out of ammo!) The pistol was the best weapon with 12 in clip and 120 more at the ready. In 5 a player couldn't carry much more than 60 rounds total for all weapons, and the pistol has been useless since 2. Halo 5 just pissed me off every way possible!
There are a lot of ways you could make this fight work. Personally, I'd either have it go about the same, except it's 117 vs. all of Osiris. That would show how much a threat Chief would really be if he went rogue. Maybe he even accidentally kills or injures one of them. Throw some emotion into the mix. Or, Chief just slaps Locke's gun away, goes easy on him, then after Locke cracks his visor, Chief just backhands him and leaves
I think it would have been cool if chief just ate a few punches and took it and when lock went for kick or some large hit chief dodges and counters with a massive hit putting Locke on the ground Locke then does some dirty move and slightly injures chief who then unleashes a. Devastating combo finishing it with a knee to head then stabbing Locke pinning him to the floor and the rest of Osiris kind of just move out of the way
I like the idea that he tells Blue Team to go on ahead, scraps with all of Osiris, Locke says something that sets him off, he unintentionally severely injures one (I'd pick Buck, it'd carry more weight if it's someone the audience likes and it makes it clear it's accidental) and then leaves
Chief is superior to everyone in Osiris team, and could possibly tango with 2 at once. He would have no chance at all against the entire team. In the books, we get to know Chief's and the Spartans' limitations much better. They weren't absolute juggernauts like Cheif is in the games. They are super-well trained super soldiers that could handle entire enemy troops at once, but their ability to defeat armies comes from their tactical genius developed over years of traninig and decades of experiemce. And guess what: in terms of power and abilites, spartan 4s are pretty close to the 2s. They just can't stand up to Blue team as a coordinated tactical unit.
This is truly the only way this game would've had a good campaign. Master Chief needed to have a REAL reason to go rogue, so if he killed off one of the members of fire team Osiris (on accident or on purpose) then the story could have started there. Here's how I wish they started Halo 5's campaign; Cortana is corrupted and trying to kill people, so fire team Osiris has been a tasked with taking her out. However, Master Chief would defend Cortana and kill another spartan with such ease that they view it as an act of aggression towards his own people, when in reality he's the only one that can stop Cortana and knows exactly how to do it but if he doesn't- then all of humanity will die. This way Master Chief has a storyline where he actually goes rogue and shows his truth strength against another Spartan
343 really ruined this game. If we could’ve played as Buck and been forced to deal with Locke ordering us to pursue the Chief and put the player in a role we don’t want to be in, as opposed to us being Locke, I might have enjoyed it more.
And we Can actually see what would have happened if lock and chief fight where Locke would have had to be in the cast for 4 weeks cuz of how bad Chief whooped his ass so now buck got to step up and show his true potential
@Splinter-ben 343 didn't invent a time machine to go back and remake previous Halo games themselves. Your childhood isn't ruined because 343 ruined this game. Calm down.
Also, the UNSC decides not to trust the *MASTER CHIEF* The man who has saved the galaxy and everyone in it multiple times. Because they think "He's going rogue". Or "We don't know if we can trust him". Chief is the ONLY person that you COULD trust to do his own thing out there in the galaxy. On a mission that he clearly feels strongly about. Like seriously, this game is hilariously dumb, and an embarrassment to the Halo franchise. And once again... Screw those devs.
Well, it wasn't Chief they were concerned about. It was Cortana. They were aware that she was still active, way past her deterioration date, which meant she was going haywire. She was making moves, not concerned about the betterment of Mankind by activating a shit ton of unknown Forerunner tech. They were trying to prevent Chief from making contact with Cortana because of his extreme attachment to her, since she could potentially convince him to help her with whatever she's planning. To the knowledge of the UNSC, Forerunner technology is kinda assumed to be geared towards killing all life since all they really fully understand are the Halo installments. The wordings on how they presented this plot mechanism is a bit unnecessarily dramatic but they were definitely correct. He was going rogue by going after Cortana, a currently missing asset who is making big play moves for unknown purposes, which meant he couldn't be trusted at that time.
That actually makes a lot of sense given the emotional toll losing cortana would have on the chief, the chief is an absolute weapon, it’s like batman having contingencies for if superman went route, it’s a what if. Honestly you sound like the dumb one😂
"UNSC decides not to trust the MASTER CHIEF" In the Lore it was ONI who ousted Chief. Not the UNSC. ONI has no love for the Spartan-II's (As explained during the Halo 4: Infinity 'Campaign'), even though the II's were primarily responsible for the victory in the Human/Covenant War. ONI condemned the II's because of Halsey. Also, explained via the lore. And since Halsey was responsible for both Chief and Cortana she was considered a traitor and anyone she 'created' was also deemed traitors. Which is why when you see the Trailer of the 'UNSC' announcing Chief's death, it's because ONI didn't want to paint a bad image on themselves, and instead tried to kill that hope that Chief gave by claiming he was 'Killed in Action'. The Office of Naval Intelligence has a nasty hatred for Chief and the other Spartan-II's. And they'll do anything in their unrestricted power to ensure they're demonized and cast out.
There’s nothing that anyone or anything in the universe can do about master chief & Cortana’s relationship. “it’s complicated” is a understatement. But they’ve both saved each other. And that’s all that matters.
Forerunner technology. Also, Cortana may or may not have come up with a way to prevent the EMP from occurring WAYYYYY back when she first got plugged into a Covenant ship.
Comparing Forerunner slip space drives to Human or even Covenant slipspace is like comparing UNSC slip space drives to the sails on on Nelsons flagship HMS Victory.
Honestly, this game was not what they’d advertised. Made it seem like chief did something way controversial and so they sent a Spartan team after him. Instead, nah man he’s hearing voices and stuff so he goes AWOL in the first mission. Now he is public enemy number one. Who the hell wrote this?
I love how 343 tried to make Locke an equal to John lore wise w/ S4's and their Gen2 armor being "equal" to S2's in Gen1 armor and the entire fan base is like "nah."
The dumbest part of the entire game. For starters, in a game that actually knew what it was doing, Master Chief would hilariously out match Locke in a 1v1. Second, imagine an in game boss fight against Chief while you, the player, play as Locke. Where your objective is to take down the Master Chief in an all out gun fight. That would be sick, right? But no, instead we get a slow and boring cutscene where Locke is actually beating Chief at some points in the fight, while his idiot teammates stand there lookin' stupid. I hate this game. Screw those devs.
Spartan IV's are less compared to the Spartan II's. IV's have a normal reaction time where II's reaction time is in milliseconds. Spartan II's died mainly from suicide. IV's are just unlucky and slow.
Except this was a bit accurate. Chief wasn't trying to kill Locke, that wasn't his goal here. He wasn't out to hurt other Spartans, rather to subdue them long enough to get ahead of them and continue his mission. There is no doubt Chief could have killed Locke and the rest of Osiris by himself, but that wasn't his goal.
I would have made a dlc showing that lock has severe mental issues and the chief had to go stop him that would explain his “actions”. But that’s just me.
Gotta love how that armor can survive reentry of earths atmosphere and all he gets is a dint in his chest piece but some how lock punching a bulletproof visors broke it
To be fair, Wilder (hardest hitting boxer, slightly less powerful than Ngannou) can punch with the power of being hit by a vehicle going 40 mph. Part of this is due to lots of force being concentrated in a very small area (the fist). So with enhancements and spartan armor the force of the punch would be incredible and the damage would be focused on a small spot rather than spread throughout the body. Also this Halo got a lot of shit wrong and this explanation is still one hell of a stretch.
I thought chief would have been calmer and more focused. And that punch.. just felt wrong. The (I got a job to do) felt good and locke getting tossed but. Idk. Maybe I'm wrong. Just felt they don't know the guy an didn't care too!
When I first played H5 and saw this cutscene, one of the first things I noticed was the lighting made Chiefs visor look red, and my own little theory was that the red signifies Chief going rogue to find and bring back Cortana. But it's probably just the lighting
Such a shame that games still haven’t learned from what made Devil May Cry 3 so great as a rival story. Should’ve had us as Locke and really hammer the underdog feeling as a S-IV against THE pinnacle S-II, then for us to build ourselves through the campaign after defeat to finally stand a chance near the end. Locke should’ve earned the crack against Chief’s visor and I promise that if he did, most of the fanbase wouldn’t be so hostile towards him or even the S-IV program as a whole.
Chief:You expect that you can beat the shit out of me while the entire covenant is so scared of me they decided to call me demon while you are just some baby Spartan and then you break my visor Locke:"sweating nervously" Yes
Amazing action packed with drama and good story lines and dialogs animation cinematography. If this is a real movie, it would win all categories awards.
Imagine ever thinking that a team of Spartan 4's, let alone a single one, ever stood a snowball's chance in hell against a Spartan 2. How did they think they every stood a chance against anyone on Blue Team? How the fuck do you read off Master Chief's accomplishments and go, "Yeah, I can take that guy," in a fist fight.
It's so sad to call this anything more than a sparring match and Chief could if he'd wanted to killed Locke without a huge degree of effort. A boy taken and trained in lethal combat since adolescence, besting Marines to get his whole company back home during training, and that was just the start. The only reason this went on as long as it did (aside from the portrayal of the dramatist personae) was Chief held back. Somewhere along the line he went from loyal soldier to master of his own mind. Given how high the stakes were this is understandable.
*Locke cracks Chief's visor* Buck: Yeah...I'm just gonna stand over here, not looking to be added to what happened last time "What happened last time?" Buck: Let's just say, better him than this pretty mug *taps helmet* down there... "ODST? Why?" Buck: Remind me to warn you guys later...
I’ve never seen a more awkward fight scene. Why do the supporting cast just stand there doing nothing? Why are both characters so slow an clumsy with every single movement?
Its the animation, and they're somewhat bulk so it feels slow but the impact is much greater, their movement are supposed to portray them as giants and giants are not fast. In trailer they move a little faster.
@@constantvitriol7426 Force goes hand in hand with speed. Even if those punches were thrown with the strength of a nuclear bomb, if they are going that slowly, the most they would be doing is gently pushing the opponent out of the way.
@@thebigyes8482 not really, a motion like that can do quite a pack of of force and damage realisticaly speaking, but sometimes, realism isnt always fun, thats what the dev dont understand, these are super soldiers, not normal human i think the best cutscene so far from any game is the halo wars and of course the remaster
I’m sorry, did y’all forget the lore completely, 343? This should have ended with Locke’s death, or at the very least incapacitation within 10 seconds of the first punch being thrown. Utter malarkey.
The red armor chick too was good obsessed with elites. (Imo she shoulda been wearing helioskrill armor would have fit her perfectly) she would want playable elites in infinite
Locke: *breaks visor*
Chief: -
Locke: ... Let me start my three part apology by saying, I think you're an incredible human being-
Chief-ive whipped wholesale ass for a lot less that that...
Lol
Punches Locke
Chief: I’m not trying to hurt you
Locke:*Breaks Visor*
Chief: I’m about to end this mans whole career
Chief: I don’t wanna hurt you.
Locke: *Breaks visor*
Chief: Your free trial of living has now ended. Prepare to perish.
when tf they say that?
@@unknownuser8454 BRO
Lmao I love this
End his life is more like it
The one great thing about this scene is how little blue team cares about Locke. Guy has a gun pointed at them and is commanding them to stand down but they just look at Master Chief and casually leave when he tells them to.
Facts. Blue Team has been training since they were kids. Team Osires is relatively new. So Blue Team isn't even phased by them
chief was like "yeah i can handle this"
blue team : welp locke is fucked
@@eomersimbajon2938 I mean, it's a cutscene, so obviously they're gonna focus on Locke and Chief, but in my head cannon, Buck is just standing there like 👀 I believe I made a mistake, if I stay quiet, maybe Chief won't notice I'm here.
Blue Team sure is good stand in for fans regarding how much **** we give about Lolke
@@oliverjr73 He questioned signing them re-enlistment papers. LMAO
The fight would have made more sense if Master Chief just stood there taking shots until his visor broke, because he doesn't want to break children, rather than scaling him down and barely able to hold his own. This is the same man that jettisoned himself into space to deliver a nuke to an enemy vessel.
Yeah its ass.
hoo rah
Yea no one wanted to see locke stand a chance agaisnt the OG Master. Master should have destroyed locke and his entire team, beating them senseless but not killing them. Just MC showing the children who the alpha really is. Instead we got a fairly equal fight that was won by mere "experience" and not total obliteration. You can attempt to tell a good story and maybe fail (in this case they did) or you can just give the customers what they want... crazy idea i know.
@@stephenpicciano6811 Even in the lore, the Spartan IIIs are supposed to be the (relatively) cheap McDonald's burger to a five star restaurant's steak. Cheaper, mass produced faire compared to a masterfully cooked and seasoned dish.
@@stephenpicciano6811 What. You can tell a good story and give the customers what they want at the same time.
Master Chief the man who's been fighting since he could stand and they expect to stop him with a baby Spartan. HAHA you're funny.
And not only that.
A gen 4 spartan. Which were less powerful than the gen 2s. Ridiculous.
This scene could of been 100x better if we actually were playing as Locke and fighting Master Chief. Why did they just make it a cut scene? They promoted the game with this and we got a cut scene lol....
@@SmkAslt thts why he said baby spartan
i never finished Halo 5, it is sucha shit game and nothing like the real Halo
@@patriousthefallenknight3185 bro thank fuck someone can relate, I ain't ever passed the missions. Ain't completed it ever. I still want to but I don't. It's so shit. I forgot what mission it was but it was the one with the mongoose on the rocky acacias planet I played
Fun fact, chief has a covenant kill count in the low millions. Most were from dropping ships out of the sky but still, why lock thought it would be a good idea to try and fight the only current living Spartan with a hyper lethal designation is beyond me
There were people watching: he didn't want to be that guy that pussed out last minute. Even if they said they understood, he'd know they were judging him for life
This is the reason why i would love to see the only other spartan to get hyper-lethal (noble 6) to fight chief I personally think it may be a somewhat fair fight
@@Coercioner noble 6 was a spartan III if I'm remembering correctly and for him to be the only spartan III classified hyper lethal says it all, so I agree a fight between he and chief would be legendary but ultimately chief would win since he's a spartan II.
@@KodaKowalchuk true but it would still be really cool to see how noble 6 would fight chief
@@Coercioner for sure just sucks we'll never get to see it canonically 🙁
Chief: *trying no to hurt locke *
Locke: *breaks his visor *
Chief: thats it, im going full monke
😂😂
never said that but ok
@@unknownuser8454 its a joke
@@unknownuser8454 bro
Lmfao. Fuckin love it
this is what happens when the Chief limits himself to 0.06% of his true power
More like his Gen 2 armor limits it.
No this is what happens if u crack his helmet
@@vanderwallstronghold8905 not just his armor. Chief could have beat him easy, but he held back.
Now that the librarian accelerated his evolution (Ancient Human Genes which is Astronomical in quality) locke should be grateful chief did not obliterated him
I reckon the plot to Infinite should be Cheif going back in time and removing Locke from the lore XD
Lore accurate: Chief knees Locke in the balls, stabs him in the chest 5 times in quick secession, then snaps his neck.
I believe that's what really happened!
@@dionmcleod5350 HaloFollower made a few lore accurate videos on the topic.
Yes I've watched the video and enjoyed. Spartan II's was faster and stronger than the UNSC Spartan IV's. They were naturally acrobatic. They experienced time differently. I like reading the books. Falling to reach must have taken awhile.
@@dionmcleod5350 did you see the one where Chief takes down all of Osiris with just one knife, body checks against a wall, John wick style camera style?
I ask because I’m on a banned list for sharing links on RUclips.
It’s more retarded than take two interactive’s E3 2021’s presentation.
Yes. I've watched him take osiris team down Easy. Hands down take down lol jk. But then we have this scene. As if Locke had a chance.
Locke: *breaks chief’s visor*
Chief: “All that for a drop of blood”
If you can make God bleed, people will cease to believe in him.
@@mechanomics2649 so basically what the doomslayer did?
i love that in the lore Chief, using his enhanced relfexes and strength, literally pimp slaps a missile the day he's pairs up with cortana. Then here, they have him fighting like a washed up boxer in a bar fight. It would have really been nice if the team making Halo 5 actually gave a damn about the lore, let alone know any of it lol. The fact they didnt think Chief was Halo's main character still baffles me to this day.
Think they learned their lesson with that move huh? 😅
I don't think he's trying to hurt him here
Chief is the premium brand steak. Locke and co are store brand frozen hamburger patties.
Wym halo main character is the player
You don't understand racism and politics. This was about replacing master chief with an African to promote Jewish interests.
i like how they made locke the same size as chief when chief is 8 feet tall and locke is 6'10
Thats 343 bulshiet inconsistencies for you.
master chief is 7'2 in armor not 8
Master Chief wants him to feel like he has a chance. It's like playfighting with a kitten.
@@alexo2303 It's called being turned into a Spartan. They GET BIGGER.
@@Lightray110 in Halo 4 chief is taller than Palmer.
In Halo 5 Palmer is the same size as Locke, who is the same size as chief.
Also only the Spartan 2s got bigger on that scale to tower above everyone else.
I just like thinking about what would have happened if Chief had landed that punch after throwing Locke on the ground.
Would have been game over
Locke would no longer be joining us for the remainder of the Halo 5 campaign.
you get yourself some smooth ketchup mayo mixture on the floor then
when 343 dont understand what a Spartan II is
The new suits the 2’s were given limited them to Spartan 4’s strength
@@anthonyreed4633 and tahts 343 covering their asses, from a military and tactical perspective taht is the dumbest thing you could ever do
343 also doesn't understand you don't go into battle with 2 clips and hope to scrounge ammo and weapons on the field. In the original, a player could carry 60 rounds in the assault rifle and carry 600 more. (Not that the assault rifle was very effective, but once loaded up, you didn't run out of ammo!) The pistol was the best weapon with 12 in clip and 120 more at the ready. In 5 a player couldn't carry much more than 60 rounds total for all weapons, and the pistol has been useless since 2.
Halo 5 just pissed me off every way possible!
You don't ever make the mistake to call a Master Chief, sir. 343 is a clueless group of developers.
@@MikeLinPA While you don't understand that a clip and a mag aren't the same thing.
There are a lot of ways you could make this fight work. Personally, I'd either have it go about the same, except it's 117 vs. all of Osiris. That would show how much a threat Chief would really be if he went rogue. Maybe he even accidentally kills or injures one of them. Throw some emotion into the mix.
Or, Chief just slaps Locke's gun away, goes easy on him, then after Locke cracks his visor, Chief just backhands him and leaves
I think it would have been cool if chief just ate a few punches and took it and when lock went for kick or some large hit chief dodges and counters with a massive hit putting Locke on the ground Locke then does some dirty move and slightly injures chief who then unleashes a. Devastating combo finishing it with a knee to head then stabbing Locke pinning him to the floor and the rest of Osiris kind of just move out of the way
I like the idea that he tells Blue Team to go on ahead, scraps with all of Osiris, Locke says something that sets him off, he unintentionally severely injures one (I'd pick Buck, it'd carry more weight if it's someone the audience likes and it makes it clear it's accidental) and then leaves
Chief is superior to everyone in Osiris team, and could possibly tango with 2 at once. He would have no chance at all against the entire team. In the books, we get to know Chief's and the Spartans' limitations much better. They weren't absolute juggernauts like Cheif is in the games. They are super-well trained super soldiers that could handle entire enemy troops at once, but their ability to defeat armies comes from their tactical genius developed over years of traninig and decades of experiemce. And guess what: in terms of power and abilites, spartan 4s are pretty close to the 2s. They just can't stand up to Blue team as a coordinated tactical unit.
This is truly the only way this game would've had a good campaign. Master Chief needed to have a REAL reason to go rogue, so if he killed off one of the members of fire team Osiris (on accident or on purpose) then the story could have started there.
Here's how I wish they started Halo 5's campaign;
Cortana is corrupted and trying to kill people, so fire team Osiris has been a tasked with taking her out. However, Master Chief would defend Cortana and kill another spartan with such ease that they view it as an act of aggression towards his own people, when in reality he's the only one that can stop Cortana and knows exactly how to do it but if he doesn't- then all of humanity will die.
This way Master Chief has a storyline where he actually goes rogue and shows his truth strength against another Spartan
343 really ruined this game. If we could’ve played as Buck and been forced to deal with Locke ordering us to pursue the Chief and put the player in a role we don’t want to be in, as opposed to us being Locke, I might have enjoyed it more.
And we Can actually see what would have happened if lock and chief fight where Locke would have had to be in the cast for 4 weeks cuz of how bad Chief whooped his ass so now buck got to step up and show his true potential
That’s actually a really good idea or play as one of the other Spartans and have Buck play the good angel.
you can do that in multiplayer
@Splinter-ben 343 didn't invent a time machine to go back and remake previous Halo games themselves. Your childhood isn't ruined because 343 ruined this game. Calm down.
@Splinter-ben what are you saying? The dude just said your childhood wasnt ruined. They ruined halo 5
I love how nobody dared to interfere
Ikr
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They know what Chief is capable of and literally demonstrated his combat skills in front of them, legendary 117 has struck again
Let’s be honest, if Chief were to ask them to join him, they would do so in a heartbeat.
you know chief can handle the whole osiris team when blue team leave him behind without hesitation
The fact they made Locke hold his own pissed me the hell off.
I love how mad Master Chief gets when his visor gets broken.
Imagine some punk random kid grabbed your favourite shades and broke one of the lenses?
Also, the UNSC decides not to trust the *MASTER CHIEF* The man who has saved the galaxy and everyone in it multiple times. Because they think "He's going rogue". Or "We don't know if we can trust him". Chief is the ONLY person that you COULD trust to do his own thing out there in the galaxy. On a mission that he clearly feels strongly about. Like seriously, this game is hilariously dumb, and an embarrassment to the Halo franchise. And once again... Screw those devs.
Well, it wasn't Chief they were concerned about. It was Cortana. They were aware that she was still active, way past her deterioration date, which meant she was going haywire. She was making moves, not concerned about the betterment of Mankind by activating a shit ton of unknown Forerunner tech. They were trying to prevent Chief from making contact with Cortana because of his extreme attachment to her, since she could potentially convince him to help her with whatever she's planning. To the knowledge of the UNSC, Forerunner technology is kinda assumed to be geared towards killing all life since all they really fully understand are the Halo installments. The wordings on how they presented this plot mechanism is a bit unnecessarily dramatic but they were definitely correct. He was going rogue by going after Cortana, a currently missing asset who is making big play moves for unknown purposes, which meant he couldn't be trusted at that time.
Besides... he's got a crush on Cortana he's not telling her that he won't help her be normal again
That actually makes a lot of sense given the emotional toll losing cortana would have on the chief, the chief is an absolute weapon, it’s like batman having contingencies for if superman went route, it’s a what if. Honestly you sound like the dumb one😂
@@B.Scruby agreed even the John's doctor said his mental state isn't stable at the time and finding Cortana will likely break him mentally
"UNSC decides not to trust the MASTER CHIEF"
In the Lore it was ONI who ousted Chief. Not the UNSC. ONI has no love for the Spartan-II's (As explained during the Halo 4: Infinity 'Campaign'), even though the II's were primarily responsible for the victory in the Human/Covenant War. ONI condemned the II's because of Halsey. Also, explained via the lore. And since Halsey was responsible for both Chief and Cortana she was considered a traitor and anyone she 'created' was also deemed traitors.
Which is why when you see the Trailer of the 'UNSC' announcing Chief's death, it's because ONI didn't want to paint a bad image on themselves, and instead tried to kill that hope that Chief gave by claiming he was 'Killed in Action'.
The Office of Naval Intelligence has a nasty hatred for Chief and the other Spartan-II's. And they'll do anything in their unrestricted power to ensure they're demonized and cast out.
Chief saying “like hell she is” is the equivalent of him saying “im about to end this mans whole career”
There’s nothing that anyone or anything in the universe can do about master chief & Cortana’s relationship. “it’s complicated” is a understatement. But they’ve both saved each other. And that’s all that matters.
@@russman720p
Thank you bro
If it was lore accurate, Chief would have destroyed him.
If it was Lore accurate I suppose Locke would immediately side with Chief and say FU to UNSC and help chief in any way possible.
Woah this fight doesn't match up with the lore, did i miss a page ?
The new suits here actually limit Spartan 2’s and make Spartan 4’s as strong as them basically Spartan 2’s got nerfed
@@antoniosaenz375 good point tho, but they still cannot beat a blue team cuz lack of experience
@@errip3903 they didn't
wait there is lore? a book? i didnt know that , i mean i know they have books but did not know about this
@@strifer43 yep a shit ton too
6:54
So every other time in the Halo franchise, when an object has gone through slip space, a huge EMP has followed.
Why not here?
Forerunner technology. Also, Cortana may or may not have come up with a way to prevent the EMP from occurring WAYYYYY back when she first got plugged into a Covenant ship.
Comparing Forerunner slip space drives to Human or even Covenant slipspace is like comparing UNSC slip space drives to the sails on on Nelsons flagship HMS Victory.
@@Tuberuser187 Idk how it all works, I just assumed the effect would be the same across the board.
A unsc ship built on forerunner engine
unsc slipspace jump, punching a hole in skin
forerunner ss jump, an almost perfect sharp scalpel cutting skin
Locke: (breaks vizor)
Chief: …
Locke: “I have made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgment.”
"Why do I hear boss music?" "BUCK CUT THE SHENANIGANS!"
Never...NEVER...EVER!!! DOES JOHN LOSE A BATTLE.
Honestly, this game was not what they’d advertised. Made it seem like chief did something way controversial and so they sent a Spartan team after him. Instead, nah man he’s hearing voices and stuff so he goes AWOL in the first mission. Now he is public enemy number one. Who the hell wrote this?
...Have you watched the new Season of the TV show? Possibly the same people.
@@asmodeusr1578 Cannot say that I have
I love how 343 tried to make Locke an equal to John lore wise w/ S4's and their Gen2 armor being "equal" to S2's in Gen1 armor and the entire fan base is like "nah."
my favourite part of this game was when the arbiter was indirectly making fun of locke by saying how great the master chief is
When Locke went “Blue team” trying to stop them, they honestly looked like “you, YOU are trying to stop US?”
everything in their body language basically shows one command from Chief and they'd drop Osiris.
3:53 is where the fight starts
Thank you!
@@thedarkjw6219 you’re welcome
The fight still sucks even at that part.
@@KJIhues I know… but Chief doesn’t slack as much after this part
True. But I don’t think this is a good representation of the chief at all.
The dumbest part of the entire game. For starters, in a game that actually knew what it was doing, Master Chief would hilariously out match Locke in a 1v1. Second, imagine an in game boss fight against Chief while you, the player, play as Locke. Where your objective is to take down the Master Chief in an all out gun fight. That would be sick, right? But no, instead we get a slow and boring cutscene where Locke is actually beating Chief at some points in the fight, while his idiot teammates stand there lookin' stupid. I hate this game. Screw those devs.
He would have tossed them all around and made it look easy!
Not true thats just bias
Hes older and slower
Spartan IV's are less compared to the Spartan II's. IV's have a normal reaction time where II's reaction time is in milliseconds. Spartan II's died mainly from suicide. IV's are just unlucky and slow.
Again love reading books. They describe Spartans so well! Catharine Halsay Made the best!
Locke:*cracks helmet *
Chief : “And I took that personally “
william 043 tore a hunter in half bare hand i can't imagine what would have happened to locke if it was lore accurate
Except this was a bit accurate. Chief wasn't trying to kill Locke, that wasn't his goal here. He wasn't out to hurt other Spartans, rather to subdue them long enough to get ahead of them and continue his mission. There is no doubt Chief could have killed Locke and the rest of Osiris by himself, but that wasn't his goal.
ngl, one slap from Chief should have Thanos snapped Locke. Gone, reduced to atoms lmao
Locke telling Blue team to stop is equivalent to reservists telling Seal Team Six to stop
I remember watching this as the camera panned around to the rest of my team and thinking "Thanks for all the godd*mn help!"
The rest of them aren't stupid enough to go up against John.
One thing that always bugged me about halo 5 is how flat the lava looks
yeah
Leave the lava alone, it's trying its best.
I can’t say I don’t like the fight, though it seems a bit slow, I mean for Master Chief at least, shit should’ve been like a damn Jojos character
Well, if that is your own friend, would you be aggressive towards him? He doesn't know anything about you now and he's only doing his mission
or red vs blue
Nah better without the ridiculous anime stuff.
not only did chief win the fight, he used locks device against him, and won without either of them getting badly hurt
Yea lol
Chief and I survived CE The Library, there ain't no way this dude is giving Chief trouble.
Locke: "break chief visor"
Chief: so you have choosen, death
Locke seems like the villian here, the devs messed this up badly
I would have made a dlc showing that lock has severe mental issues and the chief had to go stop him that would explain his “actions”. But that’s just me.
Spartan Locke: "Cortana is out of our concern
Master chief: "like hell she is"
Best line I could ask for in any halo game
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Gotta love how that armor can survive reentry of earths atmosphere and all he gets is a dint in his chest piece but some how lock punching a bulletproof visors broke it
To be fair, Wilder (hardest hitting boxer, slightly less powerful than Ngannou) can punch with the power of being hit by a vehicle going 40 mph. Part of this is due to lots of force being concentrated in a very small area (the fist). So with enhancements and spartan armor the force of the punch would be incredible and the damage would be focused on a small spot rather than spread throughout the body.
Also this Halo got a lot of shit wrong and this explanation is still one hell of a stretch.
@@FrozenMrSadness pls stop saying dumb stuff
Take the armor off the both of them and it would be like snapping a twig for chief
I thought chief would have been calmer and more focused. And that punch.. just felt wrong. The (I got a job to do) felt good and locke getting tossed but. Idk. Maybe I'm wrong. Just felt they don't know the guy an didn't care too!
this is what happens when writers try to make a new main character and ignore the lore completely in the meantime
Anyone notice how Spartans look like Power rangers now?
@Reader Stuff haha! So true.
This fight was the ultimate example of “WTF YOU SAY YOU LITTLE SHIT?”
@3:49 when you hit big bro too hard and you know you about to get a can of whoop ass.
3:02 don't you hate when they want you back at work without time off😂😂😂
Chief: Don't ...
Locke: *Beaks his visor*
Chief: That's it! You Little Shit!
Knowing the difference between the IV's and the II's I can't help but think John was seriously pulling his punches here.
I like how the explanation of this is that he was basically being spammed with super forerunner zip bombs and couldn’t see
im sorry what xD
When the doom music kicks in
Chief has been beating the shit out of ODSTs since 14, the fuck did any of them think they were gonna do?
The chief isn't a "sir", he works for a living
Saves humanity multiple times, isn't given a commission-_-
I think sergent Dornan trained master chief
When I first played H5 and saw this cutscene, one of the first things I noticed was the lighting made Chiefs visor look red, and my own little theory was that the red signifies Chief going rogue to find and bring back Cortana. But it's probably just the lighting
I’m actually kind of underwhelmed by the fight, I kind of just can’t feel the blows they’re exchanging
Yea for someone who can flip a multiple ton vehicle over they seeped to be flicking each other
It’s better this way goes to show that Chief really didn’t need to go all out
@@bootybandit9245 That…is an insanely valid point
Armor, they're not feeling anything either.
Locke: *is getting his ass kicked by chief*
Osiris team: *looking at the tiny gap they would have to jump across* "welp, I guess he's gonna die"
Bro this fight was so sad it look like me and my brother fighting over a controller lol
This is the pg version. the original was too violent when master chief straight up massacred that kid.
Lol
Master Chief: Sir? I work for a living. It's Master Chief, boy.
You get into Chiefs business you fucked up big time, Chief: At this moment he knew he fucked up.
5:08 Gonna tell my kids this was Power Rangers
I never understood why people in armor think a fist fight will do literally anything lmao
Such a shame that games still haven’t learned from what made Devil May Cry 3 so great as a rival story.
Should’ve had us as Locke and really hammer the underdog feeling as a S-IV against THE pinnacle S-II, then for us to build ourselves through the campaign after defeat to finally stand a chance near the end. Locke should’ve earned the crack against Chief’s visor and I promise that if he did, most of the fanbase wouldn’t be so hostile towards him or even the S-IV program as a whole.
it was so kind of master chief to hold back like that, learning experiences are very important for beginners!
Chief:You expect that you can beat the shit out of me while the entire covenant is so scared of me they decided to call me demon while you are just some baby Spartan and then you break my visor
Locke:"sweating nervously" Yes
Amazing action packed with drama and good story lines and dialogs animation cinematography. If this is a real movie, it would win all categories awards.
lol
Maater chief is basically the doom slayer in another universe without the God powers
The fight might not make much sense but it looks really great, really well choreographed imo
Imagine ever thinking that a team of Spartan 4's, let alone a single one, ever stood a snowball's chance in hell against a Spartan 2. How did they think they every stood a chance against anyone on Blue Team? How the fuck do you read off Master Chief's accomplishments and go, "Yeah, I can take that guy," in a fist fight.
0:30 ahh I love the boot sound
Lore wise, a Spartan IV in GEN2 armour were on par with Spartan IIs. The only thing that differed was experience really.
Chief:
*So, you have chosen death..*
It's so sad to call this anything more than a sparring match and Chief could if he'd wanted to killed Locke without a huge degree of effort. A boy taken and trained in lethal combat since adolescence, besting Marines to get his whole company back home during training, and that was just the start. The only reason this went on as long as it did (aside from the portrayal of the dramatist personae) was Chief held back. Somewhere along the line he went from loyal soldier to master of his own mind. Given how high the stakes were this is understandable.
*Locke cracks Chief's visor*
Buck: Yeah...I'm just gonna stand over here, not looking to be added to what happened last time
"What happened last time?"
Buck: Let's just say, better him than this pretty mug *taps helmet* down there...
"ODST? Why?"
Buck: Remind me to warn you guys later...
dude I thought we were just playin around till he broke my damn visor
master chief has way more combat experience than any of them and yet they managed to break his visor.
*Trying to hunt down one of the only two hyper-lethal spartans*
Ah yes, let's send some Spartan IVs, that'll do it right? Haha...right?
how can a spartan 4 even slightly harm the best spartan 2 to ever live? this is such a bizarre fight
I remember playing this as a kid and I thought that chief should be kicking this random dudes ass
Locke: *breaks visor*
Chief: hmm, ima treat you like the odst soldiers I boxed with.
I’ve never seen a more awkward fight scene. Why do the supporting cast just stand there doing nothing? Why are both characters so slow an clumsy with every single movement?
Its the animation, and they're somewhat bulk so it feels slow but the impact is much greater, their movement are supposed to portray them as giants and giants are not fast. In trailer they move a little faster.
@@constantvitriol7426 Force goes hand in hand with speed. Even if those punches were thrown with the strength of a nuclear bomb, if they are going that slowly, the most they would be doing is gently pushing the opponent out of the way.
343
@@thebigyes8482 not really, a motion like that can do quite a pack of of force and damage realisticaly speaking, but sometimes, realism isnt always fun, thats what the dev dont understand, these are super soldiers, not normal human
i think the best cutscene so far from any game is the halo wars and of course the remaster
@@thebigyes8482 you’ve never seen big boy George Forman fight huh. Slow as a model t hits like a Mack truck.
I’m sorry, did y’all forget the lore completely, 343? This should have ended with Locke’s death, or at the very least incapacitation within 10 seconds of the first punch being thrown.
Utter malarkey.
Locke just doesn't understand that Chief is built different.
1:50 is that Cayde-6’a voice actor??
The moment Chief's visor broke was the moment Chief decided to put boots to asses.
The fact that they implemented Locke TO EVEN THINK to dodge Cheifs swings aswell as to even move him is Haresy.
3:50 Master Chief: *C A G A S T E*
I remember playing this in halo 5 with my dad!
Cheifs been fighting way before halo 5 I'm pretty sure he knows more than a whole a halo game.
PERFECT.💋❤💛💙
dang when you realise Master Chief is getting older as the game continue
Buck was the real hero of halo 5 I do not care for Locke at all
Pointing out the exit and always going last through the portals put the team before himself, knew chief wasnt bad. Buck = Hero
The red armor chick too was good obsessed with elites. (Imo she shoulda been wearing helioskrill armor would have fit her perfectly) she would want playable elites in infinite
Man... Master chief cannot be stopped
Blue team is more than just a team, they’re a family, have been together since boot camp