Weaponized Medieval Wrestling: the Dagger
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Instructed medieval fighting, or modern self-defence for that matter, is in my opinion a holistic compendium of a few techniques and principles which are then extrapolated into various and innumerable situations which at first might seem different but are in reality quite similar once one gets past surface appearances.
Here we see some examples of how I teach the medieval martial arts and modern self-defence, in that more simple situations-unarmed techniques in this example-are then extrapolated into more complex situations through a change of circumstance or additional elements. In this video we see specifically how unarmed medieval wrestling techniques can be extrapolated into armed medieval dagger work.
This kind of work is not only loads of fun, but also very helpful in increasing one's creativity in self-defence situations and creating more well-rounded abilities. Also, it is also quite necessary due to the sketchy or filled-with-holes nature of medieval fighting manuals, as we all know that they didn't show all there was to know.
This kind of extrapolatory work is not only great for our modern practice but also completely historical. One need look no further than the Flos Duellatorum, or the German school of fencing itself, to see that.
I should add that we were also practising how to draw the dagger while being attacked-another and significant added level of difficulty-and moving the initial position of the dagger from the left hip to the right (and at the back and down the boot) in order to vary the parameters of the act of drawing itself. Also, the attack was not pre-arranged.
Enjoy!
I find it interesting that people think that since most modern martial arts come from different parts of asia, european men didn't have a clue how to wrestle effectivelly or fight with skill, and only knew to bash a mace until the enemy died.
Just because the pre-renaissance drawings of masters are kind of derpy doesn't mean the techniques were. The main reason why the Japanese and chinese cultures are closer to their martial arts than we are is that their feudal societies ended some hundreds of years after ours.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense and regular training can become a deadly warrior. No need to have mystical training or anything. It's a question of practise, and Knights had just as much as samurai had.
Yeah, the main reason people think Asian martial arts are better is just because movies. If you study European longsword and wrestling at the sword, and then go study Japanese Kendo and Jujitsu you'll find that they are fundamentally the same things. There are only so many ways to effectively use your body or sword as a weapon, and both figured it out pretty dang well.
Europeans have been fighting for hundreds if not thousands of years, they have some pretty dang sophisticated martial art systems...
i have seen similar techniques in aikido, jujutsu and other martial arts - it's fun stuff :)
superb!
you guys produce some of the best wma work I have seen
Tough boy gives it the power
It is a great idea to use different passages from the historical manuals in order to found a solid european martial art style
I also use some manuals in retrospective , (Camillo Agrippa, Hans wurm, Fiore, Talhoffer, Paulus Hector Mair ) for viking combat along with the sagas and modern wrestling concepts, because you can take everything you need and adapt it. you can make feedback and figure out how they can get the knowledge from experience and instinct...
Great video.
Bravooo!
@ArmeAntica
He's not stupid it's just that people do not realize that empty hand martial arts techniques of every style and origin were developed from weapon's techniques.
Muy buen video, me gustó / Very good video, I like it.
Sure they are, that's why I referenced the names.
nice stuff man
Questo video è stato girato in Italia, quindi direi che posso scrivere in Italiano... E' molto simile al Silat, devo dire!
Gotta love the upper Key! P.S. How's your translation of Mair's Sickle plates going? It looks like the Sickle uses many of the same concepts as the dagger. It might be a good companion weapon to train at the same time.
@ArmeAntica You got me there. It is a word. YOu just used it improperly. Still a good video.
The horrible song is the original song of "Hokuto no Ken" come on, of course it's not the best music on earth but it's a nice memory of our youth who "lived in the '90s" LOL. Systema & Bujinkan friendship!
Carlo Licini It sounds very like "Judy and Mary", I quite like it.
Seriously scary stuff!
I'd love to learn. Only in Europe, I suppose?
Other way around. Weapon usage is an extension of unarmed martial arts.
ya man. It is interesting that the two arts look similar, but it makes sense if you think about it. Great minds think alike
Well, if you think about it, the human body only works in so many ways. Physics doesn't change based on where you were born, after all.
But the application? Are those technique possibles? They seems too affected.
In realtà puoi, è illegale, ma c'è gente che lo fa.
Ci sono foderi fatti apposta per essere attaccati orizzontalmente alla cintura,
se porti la camicia fuori dai pantaloni nessuno si accorge di niente,
eccetto il metal detector della banca o dell'areoporto ovvio! :)
WHY U NO SHOW AURAS AND ATATATATA!? I tease, I tease. One thing though, it seems like there are a lot of arm catches. I would really like to see this with hard sparring. Sorry guys, I can't but help be a little bit skepticle but I wouldn't mind being convinced otherwise
Its nice, but i would really like to see this in a situation where the opponent is resisting the wrestling hold being put on, this is the test for a martial system
That's not the purpose of this video.
I realise that, I was saying that I would like to see these being put into practice against a resisting opponent
Exactly. This looks cool, but only full speed sparring will really prove its usefulness, or fully train the techniques for use in the real world.
reminds me of systema trainings
all this is hight hits...to get the neck, probably, and the ennemy is at one metter... and your focus. But what if the menace comes closer before. Even if your allready focus? and is about to stabb you in the belly ? (if you shows it allready in another video, please, give me the link!)
You're right. This video only shows a high attack, and it was done simply because that is the most common attack shown in medieval texts. For attacks that are lower and closer, you have to be able to move your center freely around its axis. I do have some clips showing examples of this, in Systema (which is historical Russian martial art) at around the 2:19 point.
ruclips.net/video/eW3Fe5Lat6k/видео.html
@ArmeAntica I've asked you 'cause I think that if you partner had continued the stabs you'll lose the arm 9/10, the first step, grab the wirst, is really, reeeeeally difficult already with the punch, I don't mind with a knife!
@ArmeAntica ok, I'm searching for in your channel; there's interesting vids, great job! Thanks for answers, tunr a blind about my donkey english xD
Further, jiujutsu wasn't developed until after Europeans visited Asia; it was created as an off-shoot of Pankratia, also known as greek wrestling.
Is that genuine medieval stuff? Cause it looks a lot like the asian martial arts stuff. Just asking, i don't know too much about martial arts, anyway.
Good video, although the horrible song ;)
Not a bad demo. BUT WEAPONIZED IS NOT A WORD. LOL
Great moves, I just didn´t like the song!
1) Hands aren't sharp, what kind of idiot punches like he's holding a knife
2) People were punching each other before they figured out how to use tools
3) This is embarassing