Awesome! It’s Keri and Dave. We just got these ice bears and have really been enjoying learning on them. So fun to see your videos! Keep up the great work!
I ordered a thumper exhaust system for my champion ice bear 125 I bought it from trail Buddy here in Michigan. Bart motors company in Orange county California he sells one an exhaust I believe it comes in two different colors? But you Can tune it. He sells separate the tuner mechanism for his exhaust system
Off topic but I’d like to thank you again for your other video on the Delrin bushings for the swingarm. I did both of my clones and that, tires and different rear shocks make these Icebear Champions great riding bikes.
I've got the aftermarket exhaust like the thumper and sounds a little bit different than yours, don't like the sound when you cut the throttle but definitely outperforms stock. The other one you first had on there that discolored the blinker sounded good but looks off with rest of the bike.
I agree . In person it doesnt sound quite as bad when you let off the throttle but it still is a weird sound. Overall I like it. The other one would be better if the pipe wasnt aiming the muffler at the turnsignal. I agree that it sounds better. But in reallife it sounded a little raspy . I would be happy with either one.
@@yeksun just took mine for a spin I believe it is the same as your thumper it just sounds different when you're on the bike riding it then when someone has a camera and your driving away on the bike. Also mine is a Lifan 2007 clone 110cc four speed with a clutch which makes a great difference than the semi-automatic which I had back in 1976 on a real CT70 Honda back in the day
Did you notice a significant performance difference between the Amazon and the Thumpstar? Was the flow different enough that you had to re-jet? The tip of that Thumpstar looks like it may accommodate a stock CT70 flame arrestor baffle if if you wanted a “stealth” mode.
I did not notice a performance difference between the two I tested . But keep in mind between a stock pipe and the thumper you would notice a big difference. The only reason I didnt was because I already had a free flowing exhaust on there. I left the jetting the same as I had it for the other exhaust and that seems fine. Im glad that you found the other video helpful about the swing arm. I cant believe the difference with those bushings. I ride this bike everywhere.
Hey man quick question! I have the same mikuni carb .. what is your screw position for air/fuel ratio . My bike seems to bog out bad then die while I’m riding . I’m currently rocking with a 115 main jet and the 50$ Amazon performance exhaust.
HI, I am not really sure how many turns out it is . Its a pain because the screw can only be turned if you take off the carb, so I bought one that you can do with your fingers. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07LF69WVL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 But My settings are : I have a 120 jet and I set the clip on the needle on the notch closest to the pointy end, that is to say furthest from the cable. I hope this helps. The carb is a vm22. It runs great.
@@yeksun Yessir , I’m about to go give it a try thanks for the info ! I’ll be grabbing that air fuel screw asap . Ripping the carb on and off all day is a pain lol ..
Hello, I was wondering if you had any trouble getting your bike through inspection. I am thinking about purchasing one. But just found out about the annual PA inspection
Unless the stock pipe is very restricted , which it is. This video is comparing 2 aftermarket pipes in the interest of sound quality. An aftermarket pipe is an improvement over the stock. Its just a matter of which one you like the sound of.
Yes. In my case the part that bolts to the shock mount seemed a little off. but it was no big deal. I just bent it ever so slightly and it fit just fine. Overall I really like it.
Very good question. This style of bike was made by honda years ago. It was called a CT70. It is no longer made. A Chinese company called Ice Bear copied the design and called it a Champion. There are other company's that have done this over the years as well. Of course they cant sell them with the Honda stickers on them. Lots of people have very fond memories of owning the old hondas. So since it looks the same with the exception of it not saying Honda , people will just buy the stickers and put them on the bike . Now it looks just like or more like the Honda they remember. Some people feel funny about doing this so there are some people who put stickers that say CHONDA in the same font as the Honda stickers. This stands for " Chinese Honda". There are lots of things that are "Cloned" With collector cars you may find for instance a Chevelle SS clone. Which means the car when new was not a SS. But the owner bought the badges and stickers and made it look like an SS . I am always sure to tell people the whole story and not have them believe it is a real Honda. Of course anyone who is familiar with these bikes would already know that. Hope that helps.
I would say yes. It starts every time and runs like it should.I have 480 miles on mine. I have made some tweeks to mine to make it even better but even if you don't tweek it you'll have fun
Awesome! It’s Keri and Dave. We just got these ice bears and have really been enjoying learning on them. So fun to see your videos! Keep up the great work!
Hello I’m also buying an ice bear from my local dealer I just wanted to know the bike seems a little small I’m 5ft 5 would it be a comfortable ride?
@@tommyfreeman1741 you’ll be fine . I’m 6’3” and I roll around on this thing comfortably like a big ass kid
I ordered a thumper exhaust system for my champion ice bear 125 I bought it from trail Buddy here in Michigan. Bart motors company in Orange county California he sells one an exhaust I believe it comes in two different colors? But you Can tune it. He sells separate the tuner mechanism for his exhaust system
Off topic but I’d like to thank you again for your other video on the Delrin bushings for the swingarm. I did both of my clones and that, tires and different rear shocks make these Icebear Champions great riding bikes.
take a end curved pipe put it on the end of the pipe your blinker is saved.
Cool bike! Just picked up a black one.
I've got the aftermarket exhaust like the thumper and sounds a little bit different than yours, don't like the sound when you cut the throttle but definitely outperforms stock. The other one you first had on there that discolored the blinker sounded good but looks off with rest of the bike.
I agree . In person it doesnt sound quite as bad when you let off the throttle but it still is a weird sound. Overall I like it. The other one would be better if the pipe wasnt aiming the muffler at the turnsignal. I agree that it sounds better. But in reallife it sounded a little raspy . I would be happy with either one.
@@yeksun just took mine for a spin I believe it is the same as your thumper it just sounds different when you're on the bike riding it then when someone has a camera and your driving away on the bike. Also mine is a Lifan 2007 clone 110cc four speed with a clutch which makes a great difference than the semi-automatic which I had back in 1976 on a real CT70 Honda back in the day
Thank you for this! I’ve been wondering what the TB exhaust sounds like.
Did you notice a significant performance difference between the Amazon and the Thumpstar? Was the flow different enough that you had to re-jet? The tip of that Thumpstar looks like it may accommodate a stock CT70 flame arrestor baffle if if you wanted a “stealth” mode.
I did not notice a performance difference between the two I tested . But keep in mind between a stock pipe and the thumper you would notice a big difference. The only reason I didnt was because I already had a free flowing exhaust on there. I left the jetting the same as I had it for the other exhaust and that seems fine. Im glad that you found the other video helpful about the swing arm. I cant believe the difference with those bushings. I ride this bike everywhere.
Good video. Thank you 😊
Hey man quick question! I have the same mikuni carb .. what is your screw position for air/fuel ratio . My bike seems to bog out bad then die while I’m riding . I’m currently rocking with a 115 main jet and the 50$ Amazon performance exhaust.
HI, I am not really sure how many turns out it is . Its a pain because the screw can only be turned if you take off the carb, so I bought one that you can do with your fingers.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07LF69WVL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But My settings are : I have a 120 jet and I set the clip on the needle on the notch closest to the pointy end, that is to say furthest from the cable. I hope this helps. The carb is a vm22. It runs great.
@@yeksun Yessir , I’m about to go give it a try thanks for the info ! I’ll be grabbing that air fuel screw asap . Ripping the carb on and off all day is a pain lol ..
Hello, I was wondering if you had any trouble getting your bike through inspection. I am thinking about purchasing one. But just found out about the annual PA inspection
No problems. Call around. My guy does it while you wait.
How tall are you? I’m 5ft 5in would it be a good comfortable ride?
I am 6'5'' and I look ridiculous on this. Buy I can ride it with no problems and it is fun fun fun. 5'5'' would be perfect for this bike.
On a 4 stroke, a modified pipe isn't going to change the performance much .😊
Unless the stock pipe is very restricted , which it is.
This video is comparing 2 aftermarket pipes in the interest of sound quality.
An aftermarket pipe is an improvement over the stock. Its just a matter of which one you like the sound of.
What part of PA?
I'm near Butler
Im on the other side my friend. Just outside of Philadelphia to the north.
Is the thumper exhaust a direct bolt on? No modification needed?
Yes. In my case the part that bolts to the shock mount seemed a little off. but it was no big deal. I just bent it ever so slightly and it fit just fine. Overall I really like it.
Ok.. why do all these clones actually say Honda on them?
Very good question. This style of bike was made by honda years ago. It was called a CT70. It is no longer made. A Chinese company called Ice Bear copied the design and called it a Champion. There are other company's that have done this over the years as well. Of course they cant sell them with the Honda stickers on them. Lots of people have very fond memories of owning the old hondas. So since it looks the same with the exception of it not saying Honda , people will just buy the stickers and put them on the bike . Now it looks just like or more like the Honda they remember. Some people feel funny about doing this so there are some people who put stickers that say CHONDA in the same font as the Honda stickers. This stands for " Chinese Honda". There are lots of things that are "Cloned" With collector cars you may find for instance a Chevelle SS clone. Which means the car when new was not a SS. But the owner bought the badges and stickers and made it look like an SS . I am always sure to tell people the whole story and not have them believe it is a real Honda. Of course anyone who is familiar with these bikes would already know that. Hope that helps.
@@yeksun I put Ducati stickers on mine just to get some laughs
What did you use to grind the weld?
I used a sandpaper cartridge roll on the end of a die grinder
Thinking about getting one are they reliable?
I would say yes. It starts every time and runs like it should.I have 480 miles on mine. I have made some tweeks to mine to make it even better but even if you don't tweek it you'll have fun
The thumper sounds much more raspy. Just an unbaffled can haha
Buy cheep Dremel grind welds down and stock sounds better like little glass pack.
After market sound ever Honda popcorn maker
Amazon exhaust looks better and sounds better
The original has a cat in it