Serial | Season 01, Episode 03 | Leakin Park
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- It's February 9, 1999. Hae has been missing for three weeks. A man on his lunch break pulls off a road to pee, and stumbles on her body in a city forest. His odd recounting of the discovery makes Detectives Ritz and MacGillivary suspicious. For instance, why did he walk so far into the woods - 127 feet - to relieve himself? And that's just the start. A look into the man's past reveals some bizarre behavior.
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Anyone watching this in English class
yuhh
Is there a chp being taught on this case? I'm bit curious why they are teaching this in school.
Yes
luzvez my school doesn’t teach it, but my teacher does. My teacher asked if it was okay to teach it, and got the approval. (Listening comprehension skills I guess) probably some kind of life lesson too, idk tho, we are still working on it
Yes
I love this - this must be what it was like to listen to news and stories on the radio in the early 1900s. No video, nothing to distract you from the story. Gives my ADD a nice break.
I think it would be nice to have some pictures for visual reference.
This was from 1999
People still listen to the radio and talk shows on radio to this day sir
@@victory1014 they do on the serial podcast website, they include additional text, summaries of the episode, and photos that go along with the epsodd
Episode 3 I’m hooked, and she has a very pleasant and calming voice, which is important To me when listening to podcasts! I’m very intrigued to hear the rest of this story!!
You know what's crazy, the lens craft manager that confirmed Don's alibi. Was his mom! His mom was the manager.
But he had no motive
@@mckernan603 do you know him personally? What ‘motive’ do many killers have. Maybe he was totally normal and snapped one day
@@charlied8355 It's been proven by Adnan's own private investigators hired by Rabia Chaudry, that the timecards couldn't be altered without leaving a trace. Not to mention, there were 9 OTHER PEOPLE AT LENSCRAFTERS that would vouch to seeing Don. Stop engaging in slander, you pos. Accept the truth, Adnan killed her. It wasn't Don. It wasn't Jay. It wasn't Bilal. It wasn't "Mr. S."(weird for people to call Alonzo Sellers that btw...)
Mr. S self reported. He's the imposter.
he’s sus lmao. he either helped kill or jay did it cuz jay really has no hard proof
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We're listening to this in AP Language and Composition. And let me tell you I love it. By the end of it we're supposed to decided if we're defending Adnan or if we're Prosecutors. Idk yet 😭
same lmao
WHY WOULD MR S NEED A HIDDEN SPOT TO PEE IF HES A SERIAL STREAKER
Law-abiding, fully dressed citizen by day, streaker by night.
To smoke a blunt.
@Adam He wasn't going there to streak, obviously he was working. A little 420 break while on the job, derp.
Because he's tired of going to jail lol
Be out of view or anyone from the road. Smoke or other adult activity.
I think maybe he discovered the body at an earlier time while possibly doing illegal stuff, being high or whatever so that he couldn't call the cops. Then he came back there, because his footsteps were on the scene and because he wanted to report the body. He did some shady stuff before so this doesn't seem too far fetched to me.
Nobody walks thru that park for legal reasons so that’s possible but it doesnt even make sense
Ngl, the intro music Is SICK😎
Wits it called do uk ?
They use this music also in Only Murders in The Building with Selena Gomez Steve Martin and Martin short ❤️
Did Jay help bury the body? I'm confused. If he helped bury the body why didn't he tell authorities where it was.
Jay did bury the body , jay knows where Hae's car was also jay had Adnan's phone around the time of the death.jay lies numerous times in the interviews
Why isn’t Jay in jail too?
Well now we know it was because he took a plea deal and was supposedly talked into it because they caught him with a ton of weeed... but what I know for sure now is the way Adnan and his case was treated by prosecutors etc was wrong and illegal.
Kristopher Holiday I think jay must’ve told his story but only if he was granted immunity that’s y he’s not in jail...I think
hope erwin doesn’t seem anyone could answer that question
This is actually so interesting...
I often wonder if I could go back in time as an invisible chrononaut who can only witness, but not interfere with, any one true crime/unsolved event what would it be? I guess this is why these stories are so intriguing and why so many people tune in to begin with.
Exactly! It makes me wanna time travel even more
omg sameeeeee
I'm listening to this after he got released from prison!!!!
It's actually not surprising how out all of the boyfriends that the victim had, they think the Muslim guy did it
for real. That's how they operated pre200's. They targeted the minority of minorities.
idiots
Yeh even though Don's mother was his alibi and no video of him there st the time or anything actial facts he was working or busy. it was a kinda new relationship ship with a big age gap (as a teen). I'm not saying he did it but adnan is not the only suspect back in 99. I actually remember how the world was quite racist then towards Arabs and Asians.
You mean 2 boyfriends, and a friend of the boyfriend basically spinning a tale of the whole event. That might have something to do with it. This is not baseless
@@Amy_Stanmore It's been proven by Adnan's own private investigators hired by Rabia Chaudry, that the timecards couldn't be altered without leaving a trace. Not to mention, there were 9 OTHER PEOPLE AT LENSCRAFTERS that would vouch to seeing Don. Stop engaging in slander, you pos. Accept the truth, Adnan killed her. It wasn't Don. It wasn't Jay. It wasn't Bilal. It wasn't "Mr. S."(weird for people to call Alonzo Sellers that btw...)
How can a school employee be on a sexual misconduct on a police report without a employer investigation
I wonder if they can check if Jay, Adnan, Hae, had some sort of relationship with S.
I think Mr. S went back there to shoot herion and he was sitting on the log staring at the ground after he got high and found it. That's why he went so far back in the woods thats why it seems like he's lying because he, but not about killing the girl.
this seems legit
Could have been doing anything back there.
bro- my english teacher would loveeee you
heroin?? where did you come to that conclusion? lmao
@@kellinxx1003 it’s more plausible than peeing LmaO 🥴 you must’ve never been on the nod. Props to you. Sincerely! ❤
But wait.the girlfriend of Jay is called Stephanie, as in the prom princess who was mentioned in Hae Mins diary? Who was somehow dumped by Adnan to be with Hae? Crazy theory: Stephanie was in love with Adan and more than jealous of Hae, so she
got somehow in contact with Jay, ending up
planning to murder Hae Min and blaming it on
Adan as a punishment? The dna found on the
wheel in Haes car, could be Stephanies, who parked it there, so the story would make sense?
Now, I'm not saying this to defend Mr. S, but as a man who pees in places like Mr. S all the time because I work in rural areas with next to no civilization for miles, I take great care to scan small areas with my eyes to make sure some spider or snake or what have you doesnt jump out and nibble on my member once I start letting the stream fly. The chances of this happening are nil, but the fear of it happening is very intense even though I do this probably 5-10 times a week.
I am almost certain if I was within 10 steps of a needle when I'm about to pee I would be able to spot it, a body would be easy mode.
He was actually skylarking-running. Not really using the woods as a personal toilet. I think he was skylarking and then he wanted a seat and saw the huge log. I just want to know why the anthropologist who dinterred her body never wrote a note or recorded his voice as notes. I feel like everyone failed this young girl.
I like how this dude decided to take a Leak in Leakin park
😂😂😂
This pod cast is fire u did an amazing so far it's better than most Netflix shows & movies fr
I love the unbiased narration.
That's sarcasm right?
More like streakin Park, amiright
Mr S was cracking one out. Every guy knows...
Pee:10 foot off the road.
Crack one out: 127 feet off the road.
Mr. S was looking for a package aka some dank or some snow. He stumbled on the body. He thought this would give him points for removing him from suspicion from his other activities because he would be looked at a as a hero. And or the killer got to cocky thinking he got away and god can make an impossible situation possible like having a random person like mr.s stumble upon a body while actually trying to urinate. Seems illogical but possible. Just heard the indecent exposure chargers and that could explain why he went so far or planning to go farther so he would not get a second offense on the same charge which comes with a harsher sentence than the first. Peeing anywhere outside not in a bathroom is publicly indecency. Behind target or in the woods, same thing.
Drinking a Budweiser on the way to work, he was definitely stopping to shoot up.
racist
@C R racist
Mr. S has GOT to have a larger involvement.
no, this isn't a lifetime movie
maybe he WAS streaking through the woods and stumbled upon the body but then made up a story abt going to peeing
I searched up images. I found them. There's like no way you could have just stumbled upon that.
He was was prolly just strolling smoking a doobie n had to pee n saw it not impossible right?
the last five seconds of this episode freaked me out. why did the uploader make it loop like that?
i remember I listened to this u english class but ever since I graduated I never got to finish it
Look up the crime scene, there is NO way he could have just "stumbled" across the body!
The body was partially exposed… it was just a matter of time before someone “stumbled” onto it
Face it, you're here because you're discussing the podcast in class. 😊
Yes 😭
False...I love to listen hear people BS others!
I think Jay got jealous that adnan was talking to his girlfriend and killed hae and buried her body and he set adnan up and gave a false statement
Or
Hae was hiking in the park ma mr s all drugged up saw her and assaulted her and killed her
And why did they never tested the rope and the whiskey bottle
I agree
Sarshar sajid There’s almost no chance that Mr S did it. In that case how would Jay know anything about the location of Hae’s body or her car? And why would he try to implicate himself AND adnan in the crime? It’s almost certainly Adnan or Jay and the motive for Jay is so weak that it’s reasonable to lean towards adnan
@@notsocooldude7720 I don't think Mr. S did it either. My mind was mostly going towards that he probably saw the murderer burying the body when he was trying to use the bathroom and ended up running away. This could probably indicate why he said he ended up not using the bathroom and waiting or he probably was doing some sketchy stuff. He probably said this story to the cops because he didn't want to get charged for something. For Adnan and Jay. I'm kind of more interested in knowing Jay's relationship with everyone. Not just "oh they we're friends" like what kind of friendship was it? We're there ever anything between Jay and Hae Lee? What I have heard about the story so far, I'm kind of low on thinking Adnan did it. The motive from the case isn't that great, especially by the way his other friends (other than Jay) describe the way Adnan reacts towards things. Like, he was making fun of what happened at the dance and all his friends said he was just sad and moved on real quickly. I don't think he had hate for Don since they both meet each other when Hae Lee's car broke down and had a conversation. I also would assume that Don didn't have anything against Adnan since he litterly let his girlfriend ride with her ex. Adnan said that he doesn't really remember what happened that day but once Asia said that she saw him that day. He remembered seeing her, which would back up Asia's story about seeing him during the time Hae Lee was suppose to be dead. But since Asia took back her statement they obviously can't really use it. But the fact that she mentioned it means there had to be some truth in it. Asia was described as being "proper" and wouldn't get involve in things just because she wanted to. She probably took back her statement becuase she didn't want to be apart of it anyone or maybe deep in her mind she believes that the real killer is out there. I'm pretty sure the host mentioned something about her being scared of a killer coming to her door during their interview. I haven't gotten much about Jay's story other than that he brought up Adnan being the killer. That's basically what I got from these past episodes.
hope genius The problem with the Asia thing is that classmates at school remember Asia saying that she believed so much that adnan was innocent that she would make up a lie to prove his innocence. Also it’s just so awfully convenient that adnan remembers nothing from that day considering the following: he let jay borrow his car AND his brand new cell phone for the whole day, he was called by the police as to what happened to his ex, and it was the last day before they were snowed in for a few days. Not to mention the fact that adnan admitted originally to asking Hae for a ride but then later denied it completely. Not saying that he’s definitely guilty but he should also definitely be a primary suspect. Obviously they didn’t really have enough proof to convict him but his only real defense is that he doesn’t remember anything from that day which seems fishy because of what I mentioned above
@@notsocooldude7720 I would definally agree that Adnan should be a primary suspect and that some stuff is fishy. I haven't ever heard about Asia saying that she would lie for him yet, I'll maybe find it later and I won't deny that, that could have happened with Asia. But I would find it hard to believe for a teenager or really anyone to back a couple weeks and say specifically what they did that day. I would also wouldn't say he's 100% guilty or innocent and his main defense IS that he doesn't remember about that day but the other sides only main defense is that Jay said he killed Hae Lee, there wasn't even any real evidence to pin point Adnan at the crime scene/killing her. I'm still as the beginning of the case so I can't really say much😅 but if you want to add anything I haven't heard yet. You can comment back.
exposing yourself to random non-consenting people isnt a sexual crime?? what??
It is a sexual crime, strange that she stated that
I am not surprised the justice system have another innocent man in prison.
What was the side story about police officer Margaret taking his clothes and stuff? Strange
Maybe he streakd near Hae and she knew him in passing St the other school.....
I’m watching this for my forensics class
Mr S isn't a streaker, he's a flasher.
They had a streaker working at a school???
5:25 Rabia lies about EVERYTHING 😂
right?? first episode it was “he’s a volunteer EMT and basically a saint” and now it’s “the park 3 miles away is an hour away” 😂😩
I thought it said Linkin Park
MasterLuke24 Is Cool that’s how your pronounce it
Adam thank GOD you corrected me because I’m not sure anyone would’ve known what I meant
@Adam *you're
807D14M0ND5 lol, i think it’s “you”. But maybe I’m wrong, don’t hurt me
Mr.S still should have been arrested or fined or something for continued drinking and driving.
127 ft isn’t as long as it sounds. It’s a little more than 30 yards on a football field. Less than the length of a high school gym basketball court. The length of the parking lot in the center of Leakin Park is larger than that. It’s about the distance from the nearest parking spot to the first bridge maybe, because the parking lot sits next to a run (kinda like a small river).
127 ft into woods without a trail is far af
@@micahmcfadden8082depends on how dense the woods are
@@micahmcfadden8082 it absolutely is not… especially in winter when there is little foliage. It literally a 30 second walk
@@jazzjackson9875 thats a third of a football field off a trail through trees is far i live in Baltimore i been thru different parts of leakin u cant see 15 yards let alone 30
@@micahmcfadden8082 and I have hiked the entire Appalachian Trail AND I am a graduate of the US Army Pathfinder School. I KNOW THE WOODS. In JANUARY you can see back into the woods by 3 times that distance. There is no foliage in January in the woods. 127ft is literally like crossing a busy major road. Not far at all. Still visible from the road without much effort
I think this man is a flasher and was hoping that he was going to be covered as being at work should he decide to perpetrate a crime. He didn't commit a crime that day but couldn't exactly say what he was really up to.
This poor kid was screwed from the beginning… no real evidence and that poor kid is locked up for good! I’m so glad he’s finally out!
They gave mr s a polygraph but not adnan?
I saw where its close to highway 70, that's a body dump too
Bet that dude takes attendance now
hey guy, i have a question.
why or why not do you guys think adnan syed is guilty or not guilty..
because there's literally no proof of him doing it other than what Jay stated and the motive is way too weak and it seems Adnans lawyer had screwed up big time by not contacting Asia or watched the security tapes to check out Asia's story Just too many loopholes Maybe Adnan did kill her maybe not but there's still no strong evidence against him
I insider if they tested his urine or not, if he's actually speaking the truth.
There's just so many weird things about this case, that seem overlooked and noone is discusing . 1) (bit off topic) Noone has heard from Hae since 2 days and they're all having a gala dancing birthday party and looking ecstatic in pictures ?? Maybe understood for others but even adnan debbie etc looking happy and cheerful??? Wow some "friends"! 2) What about the duration between her disapperance and her body? It was a long time, 2 weeks. Noone is talking about it, but It would be interesting to know if Adnan expressed interest to anyone for helping find her or seemed worried and was making physical efforts to find out her whereabouts.That would be strong circumstansial evidence , since all those things would be expected from someone who loved her so much and was in a loving relatoinship just few weeks ago. 3) Why everyone is only focused on the 20 mins time-frame the murder happened. What about his whereabouts when Jay said they were out at Best buy or spending hours trying to get rid of evidence and burying the body. Does Adnan's family say he was home till late that night or was gone for several hours late? If he doesnt remember where he was at very late hours of the night , and his family says he was out a lot the whole evening, isnt that strong circumstantial evidence? Does anyone know about such information? 4) Imagine you love someone with all your heart for a long time, few weeks aftera breakup they end up murdered,you dont know who murdered her, wouldnt you go insane with rage and not rest and just think and talk about trying to find out the person who did that horrible murder of your loved one?? 5) Similar to point 4, imagine you lose everything and the world labels you murderer and you have to spend 30 years in jail when you are innocent,ONLY because ONE person said you did all that and was just lying about everything. Would'nt you have unspeakable resentment and hate towards that person to the point of wishing you could beat the living shit out of them? Now listen to adnan's audios, does he sound like that when Jay name comes up? Or even if the name doesnt come up, i would still keep telling the world that Jay is a horrible person every time i get an opportunity to speak.
Did Adnan steal your lunch money or something? What is your problem, posting the same thing over and over. The state had a very flawed case, and the evidence strongly suggests he didn’t do it. Get a life!
@@BuiltInBrooklyn He looks like an Indian Hindu who share enmity with Muslim Pakistani's as Adnan is Pakistani so I think it makes sense for him to hate him and be jealous of him to right long paragraphs explaining how he was guilty. I saw his recent comments and he commented like 60 times on this channel and in his recent comments he wad shaming Sarah by saying that you find the "Mazlim " loverboi crush Adnan cute that's why you think he ain't guilty.
@@qtt8122 That makes a lot of sense yes! The fact that he would dedicate so much time though, to smearing someone who was already wrongfully convicted, is just beyond hate. This person is sick!
The first thing I did after reading this long comment was looking at your name, and I got my answer, why you are obsessed in making Adnan guilty.
can someone tell me three nonficiton facts in this video and 3 literary mood examples that are found in this video as well? While you're at it can someone else give me an example of each verbal, situational, and dramatic irony that was used in this video please?
Hide the fact you're asking us to do your homework more carefully and someone might.
Umm. I would help but i think ur hw is over due now
Hermione Lez help me please lmao
@@breyannah what do u need help with
Hermione Lez
20 years later, Asia still defends her story.
Do you believe her? If not, why would she have a reason to lie? If you do,
what is it about her story that feels so believable?
The last 10 seconds freaked me out-
If Jay had the vehicle, he probably told Adnan to ask for the ride because he did forget the gift for Stephanie but suggested he should say his car was in the shop to save cover for Jay.. Adnan doesn’t pay attention to detail & seems generous as though it would not have bothered him if Jay needed the car for more time.
Reach much? 🤦🏽♂️ Having been a teenage boy at one time, I can tell you, they don't care in the slightest if their friend's boyfriend got them a birthday present, they don't loan their car and cell phone to people they say they weren't that close to, and if their ex-girlfriend/good friend goes missing, they don't refrain from calling/texting them as if they know they'll never answer (because they're burried in Leakin Park).
Dudes a streaker imagine
cognac is brandy
This was posted years ago I know. I have a question that maybe someone will see and answer. If Mr S is a streaker then why would he care that much about walking far enough for privacy to pee in the woods.
He was probably high out of his mind and wandered into the woods.
127 feet is not far… 30 second walk. Also it’s winter so literally no privacy because no leaves, foliage
He took a leak in Leakin Park
who is watching these in english class
Sarah develops feelings for Adnan and clearly she takes his side on everything investigated. She minimizes, downplays and outright ignores red flags and facts. I found it amusing watching the nerdy chick developing her first high school crush. Adnan completely mind screws her.
She totally does.
no she doesn't. she consistently highlights that its strange he cant exactly remember things
His half brother is probably right streaking through the forrest
And this guy kept his job at the school ? Drinking on the job and flashing
No, he was stood down & made a probationary substitute teacher.
If he messes up again he’s out of options, he’ll be relocated on final warning to teach at the local primary school.
No other avenues for him if he screws up there, he’ll be forced to join the police department.
@@FromThe3021 😂😂😂😂
ofcourse this is something that happend in Baltimore
Hi Mrs. Clark 👋🏾
Hello Nathan
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Coincidence or suspicious? Did Jay not lead them to the body?
How DOES Mr. S have a wife????
Wait what?!!! Wooooow
SO WE FIND OUT ABOUT MR.S LIE DETECTOR WHAT ABOUT J OR THE DEFENDANT??? DID THEY TAKE A LIE DETECTOR
No one cares if you’re watching it in English class just watch it bruv it’s sick
I’m failing English
me too lmao
Mr. S definitely had something to do with it
12:00 he could've smelled it too??
5:25 Leakin Park is a 10-12 minute drive from the school.
Sarah Koenig about the investigators, "how did they arrive at that level of certainty?" Well they certainly didn't rely on a podcast that tries to keep people guessing.
Mr S sounds like Kanye West 🤣
WHEN IMPOSTER IS SUS
Hold up why she glitch at the end of this one thought my shit was possessed
Hey can someone tell me where in this video there was sarcasm and irony?
15:42 irony.
17:59
27:49 - Easy Chicago
I have to do this for school
Again I'm going to say as I'm listening ,dom states she says take off ,he says he can't,but the note in her car says otherwise , complete opposite ,sorry I can't stay as if note was at dons house ???! Case in point ,Dom is lying ,and of course his mom will lie for him about what time he took his break ,it's his mother did anyone catch this?????
Yes and there no concrete fact he was even at work that day.
@@Amy_Stanmore It's been proven by Adnan's own private investigators hired by Rabia Chaudry, that the timecards couldn't be altered without leaving a trace. Not to mention, there were 9 OTHER PEOPLE AT LENSCRAFTERS that would vouch to seeing Don. Stop engaging in slander, you pos. Accept the truth, Adnan killed her. It wasn't Don. It wasn't Jay. It wasn't Bilal. It wasn't "Mr. S."(weird for people to call Alonzo Sellers that btw...)
There was not one good god damn thing wrong with the guy's story who found Hae's body.
Easy Chicago
English
Leakin park is 10 minutes away from Woodlawn high wtf they talking bout
Leakin park connects west baltimore and the county woodlawn is in people from Woodlawn are more familiar with leakin park than people from the city
I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR
Feck you for making it only audio
That’s literally what podcasts are..
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22:01
6th period English class!!!!!!!!!
Ok wow the mr s is very suspect!!!!!!@
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he did that shit
how?
choked her in the car
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Mr. S was shady asF