I should have clarified: I know about the Battery Staff snapshotting, a heist base + boss unique + specific mechanic aware playstyle is just out of bounds for what I'm looking for in a league starter.
Hey man, I think you should collab with OneManaLeft (ConnorConverse) and just go for the big cahuna to popularize this really strong archetype. I think you have a skill set that he does not, and that is appeal and trust with new players. True - you CANNOT league start archmage battery staff snapshot. But you CAN plan around transitioning into that later and YOU can map out a few paths to that for players to follow while Connor can lend credibility to the absolute endgame version of the build.
What I love about manastacking: You see every small upgrade you do. For a lot of other builds, upgrades dont increase numbers that you see in the game, you only know its an upgrade because PoB says so. For manastacking, you see the upgrade because Mana number go up
I dunno, i think most builds in PoE are like this, either it be damage or defensive, any small upgrade is actually huge. Thats how i've felt with most builds I've done.
I always thought of Temporal Rift as closer to Weaver's Time Lapse, since it doesn't technically heal you, but send you back to the state you previously were, even if it was worse
@@jedrusnowak3317 Volatile reversal actually used to be rather popular in Last Epoch beta and it works just fine even today it's just that VK isn't as popular anymore. So to say it'll always work bad is just objectively untrue.
I should have clarified that I'm only testing for a league start scenario, that stuff is out of bounds for that. I am away of the reverse snapshot stuff and it's actually what started me down this rabbit hole in the first place.
They do work together if u have a battery staff where the energy shield is considered your second mana pool (just for arcmage sup) for more info look up Connor Converse and his penance brand build
I took inspiration from captainlance to build (inqisitor with adorned) my bosser in affliction. I went life stacking and scale dmg from es > spellblade . 3 lbos ended up hitting for 30mill, so a single was more than smooth for mapping, and bosses melted with the 3 up. Ivory tower especially with the enchant of 8% increased defense can also add more ES per the unique line, which ends up adding a fair chunk of ES as a bonus.
What's funny is that for your duration kind of skills indigon is actually a lot more manageable. Don't go for 2k% increased damage. That's a trap because the cost is too high. Take your few hundred % increase damage by ramping just a little, put down your ball lightnings until you're blocked by the cooldown, and then the indigon cost naturally flattens out because you back of your casts per second.
I’ve started making my own build from scratch for the first time and I ended up on a manastacking hierophant using Crackling lance of disintigration. The idea being to use stormfire to cause a massive ignite and then spreading it with bereks respite (which also spreads the shocks, giving the ignite more damage thanks to stormfire). I’m currently in the testing phase. But so far its working pretty well. All that being said: I defenitely feel the “the last 72 hours i’ve been thinking about this” Once I really got started I constantly catch myself thinking about the build while walking, eating, etc. Its strangely addicting.
@@subtractem This is true, but the main circumstance is that the skill needs to have a duration. This skill does have a duration. Though, how viable a battery staff is as a leaguestarter is a whole other question.
Some dude made an Indigo + archmage combo with the Heist experimental staff base (spends ES instead of mana) with Ivory tower to, he insta delete all ubers with high invest but at low budget version was like 30mill, pretty crazy.
I started this at league start, got to late red maps, was doing nice damage but I was dying a lot, didn't have the currency to get the items I wanted and it was a bit buggy as well so I abandoned it and forgot about it. Good to see someone is thinking alike :D
They should work together as long as you have enough to spend for archmage. To raise the cap you can use Eldritch battery, but yeah as soon as the mana cost becomes higher then your maximum mana + energy shield the bonus damage will vanish.
Love your work, keep it up. Will wait and see how you go with League Start numbers, played SRS Guardian in Affliction and loved it but looking to switch it up next league.
Super interesting stuff man, I love league start testing. Keep it coming! I'm wondering if there's a world where frost blades of katabasis ignite elementalist is worth experimenting with. Using something like shaper of flames and stacking generic dot damage to scale both the ignite and cold dot.
It looks fun. I haven't played with temporal rift at all yet, so I'd be open to try it. Worst case, we can farm a bit of chaos and transition into a Mjölnir or manaforged build.
This kind of reminds me of Alkaizerx's 3.14 self cast Ball Lighting Heiro (i'm sure you hate those types of comments). I think it used Cloak of Defiance and Glimpse of Chaos in conjunction with Atzeri's Foible with the old MOM and Agnostic. It was a great medium budget build for tanky, high damage Ultimatum monsters. I think i still have the old PoB saved if anyone wants to check it out.
always interested in learning possible other techniques to add in! i was already looking at cloak/agnostic as an earlier budget setup and transitioning to ivory tower later.
I did storm burst totem starter into the standard manastacking mjolnir stuff and then later swap into battery staff penance brand mana stacking. Really fun, first time doing mana stacking but it was rly fiddly when u got into battery staff indigon snapshotting
They work together, just analyse any build from Conner Converse. You just have to fine tune the duration of the indigon buff with your mana regen and the duration of the spell you are using.
Static Ball lightning will get nerfed for sure, it was OP on totems at no investment and already used quite a lot in the mana stacking. I'd be more surprised if it didn't get nerfed.
Great ideas here. For myself personally as second season probably too outa my leaugue but super great to learn learn about items and how they interact with each other and different synergies. Hats off. Question/request if possible and time. Its going to be my first pure witch then not sure what accendency im going to take but trying to learn crit. I come from games where you just get crit chance/multi and bang you get ur answer. Its quite confusing here. I watched vidios and still kinda lost. Any resources that anyone could reccomend for this would be greatly appreciated. Also what level should it become time to invest into it.Thanks much
This looks absolutely great! Ive played lances ivory tower builds but never actually read that mana node on it... maybe its time i try a mana stacker build? Kinda wanna try it with new absolution of inspiring and get that hiero node that gives aoe from stacking mana...
You can create annointed ivory tower (brick sporeguard and use mythic orb) +2 +2 implicits are much better, but annointed mana is very good too, and somewhat deterministic.
You may wanna check out the new video by “1 mana left”. He’s doing archmage indigon galvanic field, without arcane cloak. Which works up to like 12k mana, apparently.
It looks really interesting but will you make a serious guide for leveling and white maps / yellow maps etc etc ? and what to upgrade and when or something in this general direction ?!
I was thinking of doing this too in 3.24, but you should also check ZiggyD's Arc of Surging from 3.23. I feel like it could be a good backup or single target skill since it similarly 'snapshots' damage like transfigured ball lightning.
I played Bonezone then switched to PBoD this league, but I really wanted to check out SRS Guardian. Assuming no nerfs, SRS is probably what I'm gonna play. I'm looking forward to it!
Biggest problem / entry cost on league start I think will be the gem itself. in the now dead league it still costs 100c. or you have to run dozens of normal/cruel/merc labs and hope you a) get the recipe at the end and b) hit the gem, as BL has two different alt gems and the static one is the rarer one. until gem is acquired - normal BL selfcast or any alternative idea?
@@FokiHunfair enough. the only problem is, even if you get the recipe in lab, its not a guarantee. There are skills which only have one alternate recipe, then it is a guarantee, but BL is not one of them, it is a double RNG to farm it yourself. but if it really is like 10c at league start this is no issue, I agree.
One thing to keep in mind with price of ivory tower is that this league has been poopin out uniques like crazy so supply might be way lower next league
Yeah this was my thought too Ultimately that should just mean the *potential* price is higher and subject to more volatility Basically everybody shush up about ivory tower so I don't have to regret not playing the build last league 😂
Just like I said, I ran Acts 1-3 with Pohx's Righteous Fire set up for Jug. IDK man, it was really good once I got RF going. I walked through mobs and they were 90% dead. Once Vaal Oversoul started moving it took me less than 1 min to kill him. Ya, that's not super fast, but I'm not the best player in the world and it's certainly faster than many builds do. So the only thing that makes Flamewood not really good then is immune to taunt things. But you can go RF though the entire campaign especially if you build similar to Dreamcore's skill tree. His goes around the outer left side of the tree, similar to Jorgan's build.
oh boy, lots of people talking about BLOS this last week. I'm just over here hoping we get a new t-gem that replaces some of the old alt qualities for dark pact in 3.24
I say this as a HUGE fan of yours - while this build looks exciting are SURE that this is viable as a LEAGUE STARTER (caps for emphasis, not shouting). That gem is being worked on by other content creators and having the ivory tower in there as well... We know how this community loves to overprice shit when they sense there are people to be exploited. That said, I love seeing you so enthused again, bro.
ivory tower is a pretty common unique tho, I league started it this league picking up ghostwrithe early for like 1c until i could afford ivory tower which was like 40c for a 5link (may have been cheaper than usual because of league mechanic)
Since manastacking has reached the mainstream im soooo glad that this league i wont stack my mana :-) happy high prices (not that it was anywhere near cheap anyways)
Ive seen the build, it's a very specific interaction that doesn't work for a league starter. Clever stuff but far out of the range of what I'm trying to do.
This build already exists as a totem version from Tatiantel2 if anyone else wants to check it out. Also uses Arcane Cloak etc. so just a lot safer because of totem playstyle in general and decoy totem. Can also do sanctums easy then. Played it this league and was super strong.
GTFO, Tati's build uses a Rare chest, Ashes, Algors Mortis, Forbbiden Flesh, Mark of the Shaper..... None of the same items Subtractem uses. On the tree, well maybe 50% of it is the same, so I guess that makes it like Tati's??? What are you smoking? Tati's build does not go to the right side of the tree, while Subtractems does. Tati's build stops directly in line with the Witch starting position, Tati takes life and ele nodes in the Templar starting are Subtractems doesn't take any.... So your a lying hack, with your logic any two build using the same skill gems is the same build...
Thx for the effort Subtractem. I loved your SRS Starter and your Bane build (R.I.P. Bane) but unfortunately this build does not look appealing to me (but this is ok :D).
Don’t do it to me Sub. This will be my 3rd league and I was all set to try DD. But your Guardian league start guide/build was awesome. Probably the reason I’m enjoying this game so much. So it will be hard not to follow you again. Really appreciate the content and all the effort. Thank you so much
Sweet! that's basically what i was planning to league start too! Except i went the Totem route like raizQT's last league starter. From his video, im pretty sure he was saying that recasting a totem basically bypass the CD cause each totem has its own CD. So in the end I think the totem route mind be better for this! :)
Totally! Totem is a very different playstyle, I might swap if I don't enjoy the playstyle but I've played other totems build in the past and I generally enjoy it.
Sounds like a good possible league starter, BUT...BUT.... as someone who nevers gets more than 10 Divines the entire league...will this build be viable , end game for me and others. Can it be viable for ZERO Divines ?? I've watched your SRS Guardian, but your beyond my capabilities/resources ! I don't want to waste my time !
I'm guessing that's a window there to your left? If so, having your Quest laying where it is just baaaaarely angled away from direct window-lens contact is making me queasy. I've seen so, so, SO many panic posts since 2016 of "wtf is this can i fix it" with a shot of these burned blotches on the screen from sunlight hitting the lenses. It doesn't even need to be a clear day, cloudy light can scorch the displays too given enough time.
Good callout! Luckily the window is always shaded and the Quest is facing nearly 180 degrees away from it, I'll try to store it in its case more often regardless.
@@subtractem There was one post years ago from a guy who brought his Vive to an outdoors event, where he had it set up under this pavilion-type thing on an overcast day. The headset still ended up bricked from burn marks on the displays. "Better safe than sorry" applies *strongly* when it comes to VR headsets & daylight.
im not sure if i missed this in video or what, but why not use the unique mana flask? the one that makes your skills cost mana for set duration? would maybe work with your initial idea where spell costs 16k to use?
All new gems are not even remotely balanced even for poe balance benchmark. Assuming they would stay as they are now and you can legstart with them is just a bit way too optimistic.
It's very strong but I'm not sure I'd call it "dump op" compared to all the other skills out there. I am going to be looking into alternatives though before patch notes.
@@subtractem Its the fact you can just use it as a "side spell" in combination with other things. The dmg of BLoS is pretty easy to scale and it's not a brand or totem. You can scale many other spells and just put BLoS on top in a 4 or 2nd 6 Link. I ended up putting BLoS in 2 of my builds just because it was better than any other 4 Link for those builds (Lightning tentrils and arc). Both giga ramped in single target. For the Arc i made a 7 Link helmet and BLoS singlehandeldly deleted guardians in 1-2 seconds, even without casting Arc at all.
umm im confused arch mage and indigon do work together absolutely amazingly actually dude... i use that this league mana stacking... check conner converse builds.... kinda lost here mate. my toon does multi billion dps utilising indigon arcane cloak and archmage... have u not seen one mana lefts videos???? i play his cwc arch mage build however i self cast cuz i play on controller.. can smash valdos, deep delve, 100% deli 100% quant 6k+ wisps. i kill/phase ubers instantly, kill uber sirus before he can meteor or final laser beam phase
i self cast. and works amazingly. cwc is not needed. my toon name is MaybeHappyWithRF if u wanna check the pob in poe ninja. more then happy to login at any point and show u the complete meltage of any uber boss/content u can throw at me@@roguethemachine
I should have clarified: I know about the Battery Staff snapshotting, a heist base + boss unique + specific mechanic aware playstyle is just out of bounds for what I'm looking for in a league starter.
Hey, just a question... is this built at the same level as srs Guardian, and what is it good at? Also maxroll guide when?
Hey man, I think you should collab with OneManaLeft (ConnorConverse) and just go for the big cahuna to popularize this really strong archetype.
I think you have a skill set that he does not, and that is appeal and trust with new players.
True - you CANNOT league start archmage battery staff snapshot. But you CAN plan around transitioning into that later and YOU can map out a few paths to that for players to follow while Connor can lend credibility to the absolute endgame version of the build.
@@Pharmacopiumconcur
No doubt about it@@jsing5022
mana crit build that does not use those stupid mirror worth jewels - I'm in.
What I love about manastacking: You see every small upgrade you do. For a lot of other builds, upgrades dont increase numbers that you see in the game, you only know its an upgrade because PoB says so. For manastacking, you see the upgrade because Mana number go up
Shit. This is so simple yet true. Now I want to do it.
I dunno, i think most builds in PoE are like this, either it be damage or defensive, any small upgrade is actually huge. Thats how i've felt with most builds I've done.
@@andrepond4470 yea but you don't see the number properly in game because the in game damage/defensive numbers are terrible.
@@TaylorLodge I don't understand your point, i never said anything about the in game tooltip numbers?
@@andrepond4470 This thread is about ingame numbers increasing
I always thought of Temporal Rift as closer to Weaver's Time Lapse, since it doesn't technically heal you, but send you back to the state you previously were, even if it was worse
skills like this in game like this wil lalways work bad.
If you played bravely default there was an undo ability that the exorcist had which is similar.
Read your comment 😂@@jedrusnowak3317
@@jedrusnowak3317 Volatile reversal actually used to be rather popular in Last Epoch beta and it works just fine even today it's just that VK isn't as popular anymore. So to say it'll always work bad is just objectively untrue.
They do work together: battery staff.
agreed, Connor Converse has made videos on boss killers that take advantage of this setup to do billions of damage with Blade Vortex.
I should have clarified that I'm only testing for a league start scenario, that stuff is out of bounds for that. I am away of the reverse snapshot stuff and it's actually what started me down this rabbit hole in the first place.
They do work together if u have a battery staff where the energy shield is considered your second mana pool (just for arcmage sup) for more info look up Connor Converse and his penance brand build
I took inspiration from captainlance to build (inqisitor with adorned) my bosser in affliction. I went life stacking and scale dmg from es > spellblade . 3 lbos ended up hitting for 30mill, so a single was more than smooth for mapping, and bosses melted with the 3 up. Ivory tower especially with the enchant of 8% increased defense can also add more ES per the unique line, which ends up adding a fair chunk of ES as a bonus.
What's funny is that for your duration kind of skills indigon is actually a lot more manageable. Don't go for 2k% increased damage. That's a trap because the cost is too high. Take your few hundred % increase damage by ramping just a little, put down your ball lightnings until you're blocked by the cooldown, and then the indigon cost naturally flattens out because you back of your casts per second.
I’ve started making my own build from scratch for the first time and I ended up on a manastacking hierophant using Crackling lance of disintigration.
The idea being to use stormfire to cause a massive ignite and then spreading it with bereks respite (which also spreads the shocks, giving the ignite more damage thanks to stormfire).
I’m currently in the testing phase. But so far its working pretty well.
All that being said: I defenitely feel the “the last 72 hours i’ve been thinking about this”
Once I really got started I constantly catch myself thinking about the build while walking, eating, etc. Its strangely addicting.
Sounds quite exciting. Nice work. Looking forward to seeing the guide.
They do work together? Reverse snapshot.... Conner been doing this for a long time now.
They work but only in very specific situations.
@@subtractem This is true, but the main circumstance is that the skill needs to have a duration. This skill does have a duration. Though, how viable a battery staff is as a leaguestarter is a whole other question.
Some dude made an Indigo + archmage combo with the Heist experimental staff base (spends ES instead of mana) with Ivory tower to, he insta delete all ubers with high invest but at low budget version was like 30mill, pretty crazy.
video or pob please, interested
is it this one? ruclips.net/video/icrFXBYmPtQ/видео.html
is it this one? ruclips.net/video/icrFXBYmPtQ/видео.html
@@erwinfernandez5152its the conner converse, look up 1 billion battery vortex
I started this at league start, got to late red maps, was doing nice damage but I was dying a lot, didn't have the currency to get the items I wanted and it was a bit buggy as well so I abandoned it and forgot about it. Good to see someone is thinking alike :D
Hello Connor Converse))
They should work together as long as you have enough to spend for archmage. To raise the cap you can use Eldritch battery, but yeah as soon as the mana cost becomes higher then your maximum mana + energy shield the bonus damage will vanish.
Love your work, keep it up. Will wait and see how you go with League Start numbers, played SRS Guardian in Affliction and loved it but looking to switch it up next league.
Super interesting stuff man, I love league start testing. Keep it coming!
I'm wondering if there's a world where frost blades of katabasis ignite elementalist is worth experimenting with. Using something like shaper of flames and stacking generic dot damage to scale both the ignite and cold dot.
It looks fun. I haven't played with temporal rift at all yet, so I'd be open to try it. Worst case, we can farm a bit of chaos and transition into a Mjölnir or manaforged build.
This kind of reminds me of Alkaizerx's 3.14 self cast Ball Lighting Heiro (i'm sure you hate those types of comments). I think it used Cloak of Defiance and Glimpse of Chaos in conjunction with Atzeri's Foible with the old MOM and Agnostic. It was a great medium budget build for tanky, high damage Ultimatum monsters. I think i still have the old PoB saved if anyone wants to check it out.
always interested in learning possible other techniques to add in! i was already looking at cloak/agnostic as an earlier budget setup and transitioning to ivory tower later.
I did storm burst totem starter into the standard manastacking mjolnir stuff and then later swap into battery staff penance brand mana stacking. Really fun, first time doing mana stacking but it was rly fiddly when u got into battery staff indigon snapshotting
They work together, just analyse any build from Conner Converse. You just have to fine tune the duration of the indigon buff with your mana regen and the duration of the spell you are using.
Static Ball lightning will get nerfed for sure, it was OP on totems at no investment and already used quite a lot in the mana stacking. I'd be more surprised if it didn't get nerfed.
Great ideas here. For myself personally as second season probably too outa my leaugue but super great to learn learn about items and how they interact with each other and different synergies. Hats off. Question/request if possible and time. Its going to be my first pure witch then not sure what accendency im going to take but trying to learn crit. I come from games where you just get crit chance/multi and bang you get ur answer. Its quite confusing here. I watched vidios and still kinda lost. Any resources that anyone could reccomend for this would be greatly appreciated. Also what level should it become time to invest into it.Thanks much
This looks absolutely great! Ive played lances ivory tower builds but never actually read that mana node on it... maybe its time i try a mana stacker build? Kinda wanna try it with new absolution of inspiring and get that hiero node that gives aoe from stacking mana...
You can create annointed ivory tower (brick sporeguard and use mythic orb) +2 +2 implicits are much better, but annointed mana is very good too, and somewhat deterministic.
You may wanna check out the new video by “1 mana left”. He’s doing archmage indigon galvanic field, without arcane cloak. Which works up to like 12k mana, apparently.
It looks really interesting but will you make a serious guide for leveling and white maps / yellow maps etc etc ? and what to upgrade and when or something in this general direction ?!
if i think it's good enough, of course!
This looks too complicated for me. If it doesn't get nerfed do you still think ignite frostblink will be a solid starter?
I was thinking of doing this too in 3.24, but you should also check ZiggyD's Arc of Surging from 3.23. I feel like it could be a good backup or single target skill since it similarly 'snapshots' damage like transfigured ball lightning.
Raiz did this but on totems it bypasses the cooldown on the tottems is this anything useful for you?
i tried totems on friday, that was what my first video was about
One question though, with mana stacking shouldn't you be using an eternal blessing aura instead of reserving 25% of mana for a single aura?
Have you looked at Connor converse mana reverse snapshot stuff?
Yes, it doesn't really fit for a league start scenario.
Broseph, you *are* an exemplar of digital artistic brilliance. Crossing my fingers no nerf.
Soo maybe for bossing mine or trap + lay it down, arcane cloak, set it off ?
archamge indigon manastacking has been very meta this league with the builds that 1manaleft has ... just look at the delve leaderboard
Yes I should have made it clear that it doesn't work for what I'm trying to league start
@@subtractem all G, always love the theory stuff and seeing it come together!
I played Bonezone then switched to PBoD this league, but I really wanted to check out SRS Guardian. Assuming no nerfs, SRS is probably what I'm gonna play. I'm looking forward to it!
can you use overflowing chalice / the sorrow of the divine instead of mana flask and use mana leech as well?
Unfortunately there are no sources of mana leech for spells left in the game after the warlord's mark rework (as far as I can tell).
damn, I thought it was possible with jewels@@subtractem
This one genuinely intrigues me.
Biggest problem / entry cost on league start I think will be the gem itself. in the now dead league it still costs 100c.
or you have to run dozens of normal/cruel/merc labs and hope you a) get the recipe at the end and b) hit the gem, as BL has two different alt gems and the static one is the rarer one.
until gem is acquired - normal BL selfcast or any alternative idea?
To be fair its a 100c cuz the league is uber inflated with currency
It was like 5-10c generally but you can always run first lab until u get it
@@FokiHunfair enough. the only problem is, even if you get the recipe in lab, its not a guarantee. There are skills which only have one alternate recipe, then it is a guarantee, but BL is not one of them, it is a double RNG to farm it yourself.
but if it really is like 10c at league start this is no issue, I agree.
One thing to keep in mind with price of ivory tower is that this league has been poopin out uniques like crazy so supply might be way lower next league
Yeah this was my thought too Ultimately that should just mean the *potential* price is higher and subject to more volatility
Basically everybody shush up about ivory tower so I don't have to regret not playing the build last league 😂
Just like I said, I ran Acts 1-3 with Pohx's Righteous Fire set up for Jug. IDK man, it was really good once I got RF going. I walked through mobs and they were 90% dead. Once Vaal Oversoul started moving it took me less than 1 min to kill him. Ya, that's not super fast, but I'm not the best player in the world and it's certainly faster than many builds do. So the only thing that makes Flamewood not really good then is immune to taunt things. But you can go RF though the entire campaign especially if you build similar to Dreamcore's skill tree. His goes around the outer left side of the tree, similar to Jorgan's build.
???
@@subtractem this is the only response
When is new league?
Throw in battery staff you can use es as mana it makes build even more wierd with indigon
not very accessible for a league start, you need to do grand heists to find a battery staff
@@OlivierCombe Indigon nethier
oh boy, lots of people talking about BLOS this last week. I'm just over here hoping we get a new t-gem that replaces some of the old alt qualities for dark pact in 3.24
I say this as a HUGE fan of yours - while this build looks exciting are SURE that this is viable as a LEAGUE STARTER (caps for emphasis, not shouting). That gem is being worked on by other content creators and having the ivory tower in there as well... We know how this community loves to overprice shit when they sense there are people to be exploited. That said, I love seeing you so enthused again, bro.
ivory tower is a pretty common unique tho, I league started it this league picking up ghostwrithe early for like 1c until i could afford ivory tower which was like 40c for a 5link (may have been cheaper than usual because of league mechanic)
@@MediocreGamer1You're probably right, I've just come to distrust this community. Everyone wants to be a scalper in POE.
Since manastacking has reached the mainstream im soooo glad that this league i wont stack my mana :-) happy high prices (not that it was anywhere near cheap anyways)
Thanks for the heads up bud. GGG_Primaeva
(jk)
Putting in work man ! 👍
oh man i can see the people complaining about how ivory tower isn't available for a league starter.
OH NOOOO, I play Manastacker and now it will be super expensive to start, because YOU made a video about it ;(
I suggest you to talk to One mana left, he made an penance archmage indigon setp up (but it's defenetly not a league start)
Ive seen the build, it's a very specific interaction that doesn't work for a league starter. Clever stuff but far out of the range of what I'm trying to do.
This build already exists as a totem version from Tatiantel2 if anyone else wants to check it out. Also uses Arcane Cloak etc. so just a lot safer because of totem playstyle in general and decoy totem. Can also do sanctums easy then. Played it this league and was super strong.
i want to try some totem builds this upcoming league, do u have any suggestions(any class on left side of tree will do for me)
"this build exists but different" and "a mana stacker that also uses arcane cloak" and you get upvoted for it. This is actually crazy.
GTFO, Tati's build uses a Rare chest, Ashes, Algors Mortis, Forbbiden Flesh, Mark of the Shaper..... None of the same items Subtractem uses. On the tree, well maybe 50% of it is the same, so I guess that makes it like Tati's??? What are you smoking? Tati's build does not go to the right side of the tree, while Subtractems does. Tati's build stops directly in line with the Witch starting position, Tati takes life and ele nodes in the Templar starting are Subtractems doesn't take any.... So your a lying hack, with your logic any two build using the same skill gems is the same build...
Now I want to do this with a +5 staff and put lightning conduit in the other 6L so you zap while your balls are out.
nerfed succesfully thanks for informing
Thx for the effort Subtractem. I loved your SRS Starter and your Bane build (R.I.P. Bane) but unfortunately this build does not look appealing to me (but this is ok :D).
What is the thumbnail armor?
ivory tower
anyone got that captain lance video?
Don’t do it to me Sub. This will be my 3rd league and I was all set to try DD. But your Guardian league start guide/build was awesome. Probably the reason I’m enjoying this game so much. So it will be hard not to follow you again.
Really appreciate the content and all the effort. Thank you so much
Sweet! that's basically what i was planning to league start too! Except i went the Totem route like raizQT's last league starter. From his video, im pretty sure he was saying that recasting a totem basically bypass the CD cause each totem has its own CD. So in the end I think the totem route mind be better for this! :)
I tried totems on Friday, it's good but I prefer this setup.
Totally! Totem is a very different playstyle, I might swap if I don't enjoy the playstyle but I've played other totems build in the past and I generally enjoy it.
Sounds like a good possible league starter, BUT...BUT.... as someone who nevers gets more than 10 Divines the entire league...will this build be viable , end game for me and others. Can it be viable for ZERO Divines ?? I've watched your SRS Guardian, but your beyond my capabilities/resources ! I don't want to waste my time !
Well there goes the price of ivory tower 😂
Don't think a gem that need to get from lab, and to be lucky to get the one you need, don't think is viable...
maybe not for SSF but basically everyone will take t-gems from labs as they level so you can just trade what you get and buy what you need.
I'm guessing that's a window there to your left? If so, having your Quest laying where it is just baaaaarely angled away from direct window-lens contact is making me queasy. I've seen so, so, SO many panic posts since 2016 of "wtf is this can i fix it" with a shot of these burned blotches on the screen from sunlight hitting the lenses. It doesn't even need to be a clear day, cloudy light can scorch the displays too given enough time.
Good callout! Luckily the window is always shaded and the Quest is facing nearly 180 degrees away from it, I'll try to store it in its case more often regardless.
@@subtractem There was one post years ago from a guy who brought his Vive to an outdoors event, where he had it set up under this pavilion-type thing on an overcast day. The headset still ended up bricked from burn marks on the displays. "Better safe than sorry" applies *strongly* when it comes to VR headsets & daylight.
It's called convergent evolution...of builds. 😂
chagrin ..oookay
They do work together, Onemanaleft does it this league even if you want some inspiration.
im not sure if i missed this in video or what, but why not use the unique mana flask? the one that makes your skills cost mana for set duration? would maybe work with your initial idea where spell costs 16k to use?
interesting build
GGG gonna nerf it later down the line. Watch!
Voices wasn't cheap in 3.23
to be fair nothing was, but with Adorned i don't think voices will ever be cheap
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All new gems are not even remotely balanced even for poe balance benchmark. Assuming they would stay as they are now and you can legstart with them is just a bit way too optimistic.
arent you scared some new gems or more transfigured are added with necropolis?
Dang that scenario hasn't occured to me. There's still a bunch of transfigured melee gems that I want to try
more gems = harder to get the one you want = higher price
@@roguethemachine theres a font that changes a gem into a transfigured version so no prices wont go up if more gems are added.
No way they're not going to nerf BLoS. it's dumb op.
It's very strong but I'm not sure I'd call it "dump op" compared to all the other skills out there. I am going to be looking into alternatives though before patch notes.
@@subtractem Its the fact you can just use it as a "side spell" in combination with
other things. The dmg of BLoS is pretty easy to scale and it's not a brand or totem. You can scale many other spells and just put BLoS on top in a 4 or 2nd 6 Link.
I ended up putting BLoS in 2 of my builds just because it was better than any other 4 Link for those builds (Lightning tentrils and arc).
Both giga ramped in single target. For the Arc i made a 7 Link helmet and BLoS singlehandeldly deleted guardians in 1-2 seconds, even without casting Arc at all.
I found it! = Fire Wild Strike.... 2040
Ty Sub!
more buttons/buffs to maintain, less interested.
no, this is a one button build except for bossing
this really sounds like a captainlance build 😬
If its mana stacking I watch 1ManaLeft
umm im confused arch mage and indigon do work together absolutely amazingly actually dude... i use that this league mana stacking... check conner converse builds.... kinda lost here mate. my toon does multi billion dps utilising indigon arcane cloak and archmage... have u not seen one mana lefts videos???? i play his cwc arch mage build however i self cast cuz i play on controller.. can smash valdos, deep delve, 100% deli 100% quant 6k+ wisps. i kill/phase ubers instantly, kill uber sirus before he can meteor or final laser beam phase
he talked about it on his stream more but indigon and archmage could work if cast when channeling .
I specifically say that it works in specific situations, not as a generic slap together synergy. I'm aware of the battery staff setup.
i self cast. and works amazingly. cwc is not needed. my toon name is MaybeHappyWithRF if u wanna check the pob in poe ninja. more then happy to login at any point and show u the complete meltage of any uber boss/content u can throw at me@@roguethemachine
Looks horribly slow and boring.
compared to?
It's gonna get nerfed. Sad