The "Aslla Piscu + Nightmare Archfiends" combo *alone* does 7300 damage, as AzyEyes calculated. If any of the opponent's own monsters are sent to the graveyard by Assla Piscu's effect, then that will generate the final 800 damage.
Not just on Devpro. You have to activate the effect of the field spell to have it resolve. If MST is chained to the activation of the effect (not just the card activation) then you can't use the effect but you still lose the life points. It's the same with Fusion Gate. Mausoleum did work here but Azn chose to sacrifice the facedown monsters instead. I hope that answeres Derek's question.
Yes, Piscu leaves the field before the tokens are summoned. However, the card, "Nightmare Archfiends," resolves its effect first, summoning the tokens. Afterwards, Piscu's effect activates to destroy the monsters on the opponent's side of the field. Piscu's effect does not and cannot resolve in the middle of "Nightmare Archfiends."
Actually, if you have another Winged-Beast in your deck with the same level as the "Earthbound Immortal", you can tribute the "Earthbound" to summon another one, since you first tribute the monster, and then, after the monster leaves the field, summon the other.
Piscu's last eff is a trigger eff, which is classified as speed spell 1. Traps are speed spell 2, therefore the eff of his trap activated first, before Piscu's eff activated.
it summons 3 tokens to the opponents field that, when destroyed, deal 800 damage. asilla piscu's eff is that when it is removed from the field, destroy all monsters your opponent controls and deal 800 damage for each. so, asilla piscu deals 3200 damage, and the tokens deal 2400 damage + asilla piscu's attack dealing 2500 damage for a total of 8100 damage
There's another way. And it's all in one turn. Set Nightmare Archfiends and Just Desserts one turn before you summon the earthbound. Then you summon him, attack directly, activate Just Desserts, chain Nightmare Archfiends, which gets activated first, then tribute the earthbound, summon the tokens, then Just Desserts activates. They take 1500, so half of their life points are gone with the attack of the earthbound, the his effect activates, destroying the 3 tokens, causing 2400 damage. Then their effect takes place, which is that the controller of the tokens takes 800 damage for each token destroyed, which is another 2400. It's 800 overkill.
I believe this is how the OTK should have gone. After getting the setup: Attack with "Earthbound IAP: 2500 During opponent's turn, activate "Ojama Trio". Chain "Nightmare Archfiends" so it activates first. Tribute "Earthbound IAP" to activate "Nightmare". If your opponent has no monsters, they now have 3 "Nightmares" + 2 "Ojamas" "Earthbound's" Effect: 800 X 5 = 4000 "Nightmare's" Effect: 800 X 3 = 2400 "Ojama's" Effect: 300 X 2 = 600 2500+4000+2400+600=9500
When "Nightmare Archfiends" is activated, a chain is created, and the "Earthbound Immortal" is tributed as a cost. Since the effect of "NA" has not yet resolved, "EI" cannot activate its effect. After "NA" resolves, the effect of "EI" activates, since it is a mandatory effect.
You cannot use this card [Swallow's Nest] to Tribute an "Earthbound Immortal Aslla Piscu" to Special Summon another because the effect allowing only 1 "Earthbound Immortal" to exist on the field prevents you from even attempting to Summon another if one is on the field.
4800 damage is from the archfiends only + 800 from his other monster (the TG). from what i can see, for the OTK to work, all you need is those 2 cards on the field and your opponent to have 1 monster
This doesn't work since the trap "NA"says Tribute 1 monster.He selected the earthbound.It is tributed and the earthbound's eff. activates = in 600 dmg since his opponent only has one monster then the tokens are summoned.You need to pay the trap's cost to activate it's effect.But I didn't play in a long time so the rules might have changed?
Earthbound CANNOT activate its effect before the effect of "NA" is resolved. "NA's" effect is resolved when the tokens are Special Summoned and "NA" is sent to the Graveyard. After the resolution of the effect, "EI" activates its own effect, because it is mandatory. Also, the secondary effect of "NA" is not "activated"; it is a lingering effect, so it just "applies".
Actually if there isn't enough room to summon all of the tokens for either Ojama or Nightmare, they will not resolve. Only Nightmare would resolve in that case.
queria saber se todos os immortais nao sao destruidos por cartas magicas e armadilhas e se so presinsa de 2 mostro pra invocar eles e tb se eles estiverem em campo jaque eles nao podem ser selecionados como alvo de atk o oponemte nao pode me atakar ne?
oh azneyes this time it isn't your math the otk relies on your opponent summoning at least one monster kinda like how the gagaga otk can not be an otk if your opponent doesn't play something strong enough
Nightmare Archfiend says "Tribute 1 monster. Special Summon 3 "Nightmare Archfiend Tokens" (Fiend-Type/DARK/Level 6/ATK 2000/DEF 2000) ...." So if you tribute Piscu at this moment, doesn't it mean that it leaves before the tokens are summoned? Someone please clarify for me :/
@dkmorbid otaku the rules didnt change youre totally wrong he tributes the earthbound then the eff of the earthbound chains to the traps eff the tokens are summoned and the traps eff is over and then the chained - earthbound eff activates
is it too hard to figure out the deck after he showed you the 3 card combo? Its like asking for a Macro-Rabbit decklist, or anything else. Apparently lots of noobs are salty and down voted my remark.
Errata says "tribute", that isnt the same as "destroy" a monster according to rulings. From a technical stand point this combination does not work. but it would be very powerful if it did as shown in the video
Christian Jordan Assla Piscu says "When this card leaves the field, destroy as many face-up monsters your opponent controls as possible and inflict 800 damage to your opponent for each card destroyed". Nightmare Archfiends says "When a "Nightmare Archfiend Token" is DESTROYED, its controllertakes 800 damage." No idea what you're talking about. This OTK DOES work. There is nothing in Assla Piscu's errata (either of them) that would change that, and Nightmare Archfiends does not have an erratum. Devpro is fully automatic and kept up on the rules. If it works there, it works in live play.
Soo what you're saying is that we're supposed to figure out an entire deck based on 3 cards? Thats a pretty rough pull there. And even macro-rabbit had a couple of combinations depending on the player. still at maximum you're asking us to figure out a 40 card deck based on the 3 card combo? Gj, have fun guessing 37 cards.
To be an actual, guaranteed OTK, your opponent must control at least 1 monster other than the Archfiend Tokens and one of your attacks must have successfully gotten through. Still pretty sacky though.
Was that a glitch with the emperor field spell? Shouldnt he have been able to pay 3000 to summon it and why didn't he pay 1000 for the missing tribute?
No.Learn about Spell Speed.I just searched for the card rulings and it's still the same."NA" does not start a chain.You activate "NA">Earthbound is offered and uses it's eff.Then when the cost is done the trap's secondary eff. is activated.
wow it's my first time watching his video where there are less than 2000 views lol heck there are only 135 views right now and only 5 comments before me... this is a very rare opportunity
azneyes: this is an otk (one turn kill)
azneyes: it actually doesnt do it in one turn.
me: what is this... i dont even...
The "Aslla Piscu + Nightmare Archfiends" combo *alone* does 7300 damage, as AzyEyes calculated. If any of the opponent's own monsters are sent to the graveyard by Assla Piscu's effect, then that will generate the final 800 damage.
Not just on Devpro. You have to activate the effect of the field spell to have it resolve. If MST is chained to the activation of the effect (not just the card activation) then you can't use the effect but you still lose the life points. It's the same with Fusion Gate. Mausoleum did work here but Azn chose to sacrifice the facedown monsters instead. I hope that answeres Derek's question.
Yes, Piscu leaves the field before the tokens are summoned. However, the card, "Nightmare Archfiends," resolves its effect first, summoning the tokens. Afterwards, Piscu's effect activates to destroy the monsters on the opponent's side of the field. Piscu's effect does not and cannot resolve in the middle of "Nightmare Archfiends."
Actually, if you have another Winged-Beast in your deck with the same level as the "Earthbound Immortal", you can tribute the "Earthbound" to summon another one, since you first tribute the monster, and then, after the monster leaves the field, summon the other.
Piscu's last eff is a trigger eff, which is classified as speed spell 1. Traps are speed spell 2, therefore the eff of his trap activated first, before Piscu's eff activated.
Looks like we'll be needing a deck profile of this.
it summons 3 tokens to the opponents field that, when destroyed, deal 800 damage. asilla piscu's eff is that when it is removed from the field, destroy all monsters your opponent controls and deal 800 damage for each. so, asilla piscu deals 3200 damage, and the tokens deal 2400 damage + asilla piscu's attack dealing 2500 damage for a total of 8100 damage
Hey AznEyesWhiteDragon,
This is kokarukontno and it was a pleasure to duel you and I would like to say great otk idea. Love your videos keep it up. :)
There's another way. And it's all in one turn. Set Nightmare Archfiends and Just Desserts one turn before you summon the earthbound. Then you summon him, attack directly, activate Just Desserts, chain Nightmare Archfiends, which gets activated first, then tribute the earthbound, summon the tokens, then Just Desserts activates. They take 1500, so half of their life points are gone with the attack of the earthbound, the his effect activates, destroying the 3 tokens, causing 2400 damage. Then their effect takes place, which is that the controller of the tokens takes 800 damage for each token destroyed, which is another 2400. It's 800 overkill.
I believe this is how the OTK should have gone. After getting the setup:
Attack with "Earthbound IAP: 2500
During opponent's turn, activate "Ojama Trio".
Chain "Nightmare Archfiends" so it activates first.
Tribute "Earthbound IAP" to activate "Nightmare".
If your opponent has no monsters, they now have 3 "Nightmares" + 2 "Ojamas"
"Earthbound's" Effect: 800 X 5 = 4000
"Nightmare's" Effect: 800 X 3 = 2400
"Ojama's" Effect: 300 X 2 = 600
2500+4000+2400+600=9500
When "Nightmare Archfiends" is activated, a chain is created, and the "Earthbound Immortal" is tributed as a cost. Since the effect of "NA" has not yet resolved, "EI" cannot activate its effect. After "NA" resolves, the effect of "EI" activates, since it is a mandatory effect.
Azn forgot the opp's monster
Only Azneyes could make an OTK that takes more than one turn :)
Ahhh the shadows are back lol. *gets out fork and a plate * I'm ready shadows.
Since dn is now on the newest banlist, I suppose you'll begin your meta climb to the top soon?
You cannot use this card [Swallow's Nest] to Tribute an "Earthbound Immortal Aslla Piscu" to Special Summon another because the effect allowing only 1 "Earthbound Immortal" to exist on the field prevents you from even attempting to Summon another if one is on the field.
How much tries does these videos take you to record?(not editing talking about to get the hand)
i wanna see a deck profile of this. it seems very fun.
what happens when you use swallow nest and summon another pisu?
Man it would suck to finally be able to duel azneyes after months of trying just to get smashed haha
on devpro you have to click mausoleum first to activate it then normal summon
4800 damage is from the archfiends only + 800 from his other monster (the TG). from what i can see, for the OTK to work, all you need is those 2 cards on the field and your opponent to have 1 monster
Azneyes, I challenge you to make a deck of Heraldic Rulers (Heraldic Beast with Tempest and Redox) I love to see what you can make of it.
Watch this video with captions on. o.O
LOL I have been waiting for a earthbound deck
nice one , can u do the deck profile
You've been posting A LOT of vids lately, azneyes
this happens every other week or so at my locals when my friend wants to be trolly
This doesn't work since the trap "NA"says Tribute 1 monster.He selected the earthbound.It is tributed and the earthbound's eff. activates = in 600 dmg since his opponent only has one monster then the tokens are summoned.You need to pay the trap's cost to activate it's effect.But I didn't play in a long time so the rules might have changed?
Earthbound CANNOT activate its effect before the effect of "NA" is resolved. "NA's" effect is resolved when the tokens are Special Summoned and "NA" is sent to the Graveyard. After the resolution of the effect, "EI" activates its own effect, because it is mandatory.
Also, the secondary effect of "NA" is not "activated"; it is a lingering effect, so it just "applies".
indeed I would like 2 see a deck list
Do I deck profile of that deck cuz I will like to try that and my locals
Actually if there isn't enough room to summon all of the tokens for either Ojama or Nightmare, they will not resolve. Only Nightmare would resolve in that case.
queria saber se todos os immortais nao sao destruidos por cartas magicas e armadilhas
e se so presinsa de 2 mostro pra invocar eles e tb se eles estiverem em campo jaque eles nao podem ser selecionados como alvo de atk o oponemte nao pode me atakar ne?
it's not "when" that causes effects to miss timing. It's "you may". If it's an option, then you can miss timing.
i saw him start losing life points and i just start laughing my ass off. lol
perfect 8000? no I need 9000.
oh azneyes this time it isn't your math the otk relies on your opponent summoning at least one monster kinda like how the gagaga otk can not be an otk if your opponent doesn't play something strong enough
want to see this deck profile!!!!
I this this idea will work very nicely with dustons
Cant you make a deck profile about this plz :D
deck profile would be awesome :D
Ive seen this done way more times before. Ever heard of the gift card OTK?
Once it is the other guy's turn it is no longer OTK, as the damage was dealt across two different turns.
The "NEARLY" isn't needed.
Nightmare Archfiend says "Tribute 1 monster. Special Summon 3 "Nightmare Archfiend Tokens" (Fiend-Type/DARK/Level 6/ATK 2000/DEF 2000) ...." So if you tribute Piscu at this moment, doesn't it mean that it leaves before the tokens are summoned?
Someone please clarify for me :/
not long until everrybody is playing this on ygopro
@dkmorbid otaku the rules didnt change youre totally wrong he tributes the earthbound then the eff of the earthbound chains to the traps eff the tokens are summoned and the traps eff is over and then the chained - earthbound eff activates
is it too hard to figure out the deck after he showed you the 3 card combo? Its like asking for a Macro-Rabbit decklist, or anything else. Apparently lots of noobs are salty and down voted my remark.
In the deck profile video he says that the opponent needs to have a face-up monster.
You calculated it correctly.
he didn't, he thought it included his own monster, it actually included the monster that the opponent summoned
Dark Signer Carly is soo jealous right now
Is there a deck profile for this? xD
King Phomphakdy there is, but its hard to find
Only if you have the set up tho...
ahh lol aslla piscu looks like a crow aka yata garasu but his eff is like chaos emperor..sorta
it works with the wiked gods? i think that is the name
This deck is genius
puedes pasar el deck o la receta del deck
It was OTK because he had a monster on the field so earthbound did an additional 800 it would only get to 7300 if they had no monsters.
Errata says "tribute", that isnt the same as "destroy" a monster according to rulings. From a technical stand point this combination does not work. but it would be very powerful if it did as shown in the video
Christian Jordan Assla Piscu says "When this card leaves the field, destroy as many face-up monsters your opponent controls as possible and inflict 800 damage to your opponent for each card destroyed". Nightmare Archfiends says "When a "Nightmare Archfiend Token" is DESTROYED, its controllertakes 800 damage."
No idea what you're talking about. This OTK DOES work. There is nothing in Assla Piscu's errata (either of them) that would change that, and Nightmare Archfiends does not have an erratum.
Devpro is fully automatic and kept up on the rules. If it works there, it works in live play.
try to improve the malefic/ earthbound/ zombie deck
Dude that's a dirty deck
Earthbound Immortal Aslla Piscu ATK: 2500
Earthbound Immortal Aslla Piscu Effect: 800 X 4 = 3200
Nightmare Archfiend: 800 X 3 = 2400
2500+3200+2400=8100
Soo what you're saying is that we're supposed to figure out an entire deck based on 3 cards? Thats a pretty rough pull there. And even macro-rabbit had a couple of combinations depending on the player. still at maximum you're asking us to figure out a 40 card deck based on the 3 card combo? Gj, have fun guessing 37 cards.
Deck list! Deck list!
but the immortal does start a chain, that's why it's activating after NA resolved.
took 3200 from earthbound + 2400 from archfiend and 2500 from direct atk
ojama trio can't resolve without three available spots. you can't just summon two.
What is this game called?
To be an actual, guaranteed OTK, your opponent must control at least 1 monster other than the Archfiend Tokens and one of your attacks must have successfully gotten through. Still pretty sacky though.
Someone used nightmare piscu combo against me. What a coincidence 0.o
Someone explain to me about the archfiend token part I got confused there
i agree, would be fun
deck list??
deck list please
This is brilliant!
Was that a glitch with the emperor field spell? Shouldnt he have been able to pay 3000 to summon it and why didn't he pay 1000 for the missing tribute?
davidiswhat why should he pay 3000lp ? The card only needs 2 tributs.
so uh why no deck list
I love EARTHBOUNDS
no one attacks wing juriboh especially lv 10 unless they can stop eff
LOL thats me commentating in game--I'm THEZANE1
Why didn't Mausoleum work?
U forgat the monster he had on the board tg royno so it would be 2500+3200+2400 he had 4 monster on field
Decklist?
Deck list plz. :3
No.Learn about Spell Speed.I just searched for the card rulings and it's still the same."NA" does not start a chain.You activate "NA">Earthbound is offered and uses it's eff.Then when the cost is done the trap's secondary eff. is activated.
I've been playing this combo in my FL deck for MONTHS -_- (fl is fortune ladies) by removing with future visions
chain burn?
Where's your BLS?
Sacked.
YEAH WHILE BEING A BOSS
Deck profile?^^
Earthbound is a When effect, so it should miss timing.
That's why he said otk ( ONE TURN KILL ) not ftk ( FIRST TURN KILL ).
TTK, Two Turns Kill.
why did he takes 3200 at the end?
Sick otk
wow it's my first time watching his video where there are less than 2000 views lol heck there are only 135 views right now and only 5 comments before me... this is a very rare opportunity
GOT problem with that?