HS0Rare That is a rage card im so glad its limited to one but it could go to three if they made it so he still goes to grave when he returns opponents card
Rob the Hungry Says who? They wouldn't do that. Right now Yugioh is going down the make too much too over powered and this is using the term overpowered correctly in so many ways.
I seem to faintly remember episode 68 (just slightly): Kaiba:"Now prepare to meet: a creature like none you seen before. I will sacrifice my 3 Blue-Eyes: GO MY GREAT BEASTS! So I can summon my Egyptian GOD CARD, an almighty creature. That knows no equal! Behold: its ABSOLUTE power! The INVINCIBLE Obelisk The Tormentor! HAHAHA! You're no match for an Egyptian GOD CARD; Now behold Obelisk The Tormentor's Special Ability. I sacrifice to MORE of my monsters to INCREASE HIS POWER! Now Obelisk, destroy ALL of their monsters." Lumis:"He just wiped out our DEFENSE!" Kaiba:"And now my Egyptian GOD CARD: Finish them off!" Lumis:"I'm really sorry to DISAPPOINT YOU, but Mirror Force will reflect Obelisk's Attack right back at yo-" Kaiba: "I'm afraid that YOU'RE WEAK TRAP WON'T WORK! Heh, Now GO!!" -nuclear explosion occurs- Kaiba: "HAHAHAHA VICTORY IS OURS! YOU TWO ARE FINISHED!"
+Sina Shahbazi ya know right? The newest Xyz and Synchros are like.... wow a round 5 monsters on field or 2 OP cards. With the new Pendulum? Say GB to this old deck m8.
Foxy Striker point is that "can't be targeted or destroyed by card effects" is barely that good anymore. Before spellbooks it really was unstoppable, then came fate which for some reason didn't target but still banished and now half the cards don't target yet can easily remove (monarchs stormforth, trishula, erebus, tiaramisu etc.)
Nice to see someone else run the immortal Obelisk. Obviously there's lots of things that get around it, but the most common would be Honest. But you're right, most of the meta doesn't have a response for something like this. Hell, most of the meta has a hard time with just a regular Obelisk on the field.
***** No, it doesn't. Nothing is being done to Obelisk when using Honest. Your monster is just simply gaining ATK equal to your opponents monster; in this case, Obelisk.
PyroTakun How to defeat immortal obelisk 1) Honest 2) Gorz upon obelisk's direct ATK 3) Sephylon the ultimate timelord (even better if u can summon a 4k fairy in addition) 4) Spellbook of fate 5) Madolche queen tiaramisu 6) Skill drain (only for targeting, not destruction) 7) Powerful equip cards (Megamorph, united we stand) 8) Gishki zielgigas 9) Sky scourge norleras 10) MIRROR WALL
Although this is an old video, can you explain why Obelisk survived that Mirror Force at 4:06 ? I was checking the OCG rulings and it says he can since his ability only says "target," which excludes area effects (Dark Hole, etc).
hm. wasnt sure it would still carry the animation tho. if im right. the back ground being white will make that part transparent? as in with the default circle its just the circle. with white
The first time i used this setup i lost. I got obelisk on the field and whatever he did i could easily counter. then he had a card that could change the level of all cards on the field. the way it was worded allowed it to target obelisk. My harden Armour dragon was no longer active. He took out obelisk the turn. I still remember that fateful battle to this day.
so i cant read the whole combo asnmy screen is too small but wouldnt rainbow neos work to take it out? since it doesn't target obelisk specifically but all monsters and it is not monster destuction?
My friend made a Ice Barrier/Frog deck... It was actually pretty good. Look up the card "Wetlands" , the deck meets that requirement, stalls, and attacks directly.
There are a lot of non targeting single creature removal. Fissure, Hammer Shot, Volcanic Queen too mention a few. That's why I find this easy to get rid of. That's why you should have hammer shot in your side deck.
dna transplant changes it to any attribute you want. or you can use super poly plus dna surgery (machine) plus overdragon. Or you could simply go dna surgery (machine) plus foretress dragon.
Im buying all the playable egyptian god cards and dragon master knight with everything to summon him. Ive also got 5 headed dragon, so on a scale of one to 10 how good will my deck be?
To deal with my brothers powerhouses, I used to use a card called Physical Double. It makes a token during the opponents turn with the same attack as his strongest monster. Would that work here?
I have always loved the immortal obelisk idea with Hardened arm dragon but I kind of like my version of it better, I don't use frogs to bring it out and I use several other powerful cards like White Night Dragon so it doesn't revolve around having Obelisk and they also help bring out that Obelisk or whatever on the first turn with Hardened Arm Dragon's other effect.
so easy way to get over ANY Obelisk is Book of eclipse/ Swords of concealing and crossout. did this in a mirror match of ghostricks where he got it out both rounds and did the same thing twice.
Any card that makes you return Obelisk to the hand would pretty much trump you. Also Effect Veiler can get rid of the effect of Obelisk not being destroyed by card effects. You'd need some backrow help to keep that Obelisk on after you've succeeded in summoning him by tributing hardened armed dragon.
put it would prevent the effect, that it can't be targeted by card effects. so with skill drain in play, he can be banished by dimensional prison for example. or simply use compulsory evacuation device.
a few ways to break this lock are neo spacian grand troll, metaion, dropping honest when u atk, spellbook of fate, trish(if ur playing ocg), morphing jar #2, super powering something with sirocco, or using huge ass beatsticks such as malefic cyber end, 5 head dragon, dark neosphere. But yeah i doubt most decks would ever play most of these cards, making this still a hard to break lock. and if i was playing heros i would go excaliber crash
I used to run this deck a lot back before e-dragons came out and it was a super strong deck. Now that most of the traps to stop obelisk are gone due to the banlist, it's a much more powerful deck. Btw the extra deck is really useful if they manage to stop your obelisk because you can get gachi and other rank 2's for defensive plays.
I was thinking about my Banish-Psychics, only ways I can think of to get rid of Hardened Obelisk would be Psychiconductor Behemoth or attacking over it, though that would involve a high level Synchro or Fusion + Future Glow
dna transplant you can make obelisk any attribute. With dna suregery you can also make it machine for overdragon super poly or fortress dragon withut super poly.
Lava Golem, Volcanic Queen, Sky Scourge Norleras and Morphing Jar #2 are some cards that can stop that combo since those cards do not target nor do they destroy.
i used hardened dragon in the new blue eyes deck star eater bkue eyes and azure eyed cant be targeted cards cannot activate and they are uneffected by card effects. Also did you guys know maiden was supposed to be the second ever tuner monster released some odd years ago?.
Im fully aware that Obelisk is divine. Super poly will still work with either dna transplant (for heros) or dna suregry (for machines though better just to go dna surgery and fortress without super poly to overdragon).
dna transplant to change it to any attribute or dna surgery plus super poly for machines to get overdragon though you could just get fortress with the same method.
My only question is. I was playing obelisk today and a guy used mirror force and looked up a ruling and it specifically says that mirror force and two other cards CAN destroy obelisk. I followed cuz he showed me a ruling. But I still question WHY?
I have an unstopple winged dragon of ra but can only be used in unlimted, also first turn summon with over 20,000 attack actuall it depends on how much time you have it can petionally go all the way up to infinte
It wouldn't destroy Obelisk, but I do have a deck that could potentially beat it. I use a Mystical Shine Ball OTK. It uses Venus to summon all three Shine Balls, which I can then power up with Photon Booster (MSB = 2000 ATK). Next, I activate DNA Surgery to make them into machines. This allows me to use Limiter Removal (MSB = 4000 ATK). I finish the combo with Delta Attacker to have (at least 2) Shine Balls attack directly and win the game. Alternately, I can use Seal of Orichalcos and Honest instead of DNA Surgery and Limiter Removal (have Venus attack with Honest's effect for the remaining 2000 damage, which could also kill Obelisk).
I could actually pretty easily hit over Obelisk with my irl deck even back when this video was uploaded provided I had a bit of luck. I ran a machina fortress deck, and while machina fortress couldn't naturally take out obelisk, I had a lot of cards like solidarity or heavy mech support platform which could easily provide me with an extra 1500+ atk to tie/beat obelisk. If I got stuck top-decking I'd be in trouble though.
this combo also works good with wicked avatar. Since Avatar's atk is always 100+ the highest atk on the field it pretty much can't be destroyed by battle.
Its because its "choose". I've heard that selecting counts as targeting but choosing is not. Im not sure though. I just assumed that cause in devpro my opponent negated an effect with turtle that said select so I gess select is target but choose is not.
Neo-spacian grand mole, d.d. warrior lady, honest, madolche queen, spellbook of fate, creature swap and so many other ways to stop obelisk like cmpulsory escape device.
If you can attack over Obelisk, it has to be one of the most satisfing things to do. I did it once with Beast Machine King Barbaros Ur + Horn of the phantom beast against a mecha phantom beast obelisk deck. Going plus off obelisk = awesome
will you take a look at my obelisk deck and let me know what you think im posting the a new video today and its makes the deck faster but let me know what you think I should change
It is very possible to defeat a player using Obelisk or Ra or Osiris, but not the monsters themselve. i am thinking of something like burn deck with defences using Path of Destiny Wave motion which detonates and making 1000x standby turns, some traps, which doesnt negate attack but transfers the damage to the opponent.
He is just like Chaos Max Dragon. The way I usually rater of deck if it can get over Chaos Max Dragon and DM can with Apprentice Illusion Magician. Ancient Gears can with Chaos Giant. I suppose light decks can with Honest.
And Machine deck that combine Sin monster as well and the structure deck is about to be release really soon as well. Gemine deck can easy kill off this deck skill drain is use in it as well. ^_^
well if you have a target card. It still cant be destroyed cause of hardened and it can tribute itself for its effect if necessary. Skill drain will just allow you to target it.
My Umbral Horrors can negate Hardened Armed Dragon's effect with Number C104: Umbral Horror Masquerade, which is actually quite easy to get out as long as I have a Rank-Up-Magic in my hand.
I think DevPro's fire king deck can still top that. Use Tiger King's effect to nullify Obelisk's effect, since it doesn't target, then use Fire Fist Bear's effect to destroy Obelisk.
My first day on dueling network someone was using this friggn deck and I was running a stall deck. I had just gotten my setup right too and friggn obelisk comes out.
iam the only one who is confused cuz obelisk has survived the mirrorforce? in his effect text he cannot be targeted, but mirrorforce does not. so why is he still on the field? pls answer
I use destiny heroes so I guess I could just play scapegoat during your turn, summon a monster during my turn, special summon plasma, Plasma negates Obelisk's effect, I equip Obelisk to plasma, now Obelisk is gone and my Plasma has 3900 attack and negates all your face-up monster effects. Would that work?
great effect but a powerbonded cyber twin and a limiter will trample over or cyber eltani will send to grave not destroy so thats something to think about
Do people not realize that super polymerization can work if you use dna surgery for chimeratech overdragon or dna transplant for shining. Or you could use dna surgery and use chimeratech fortress dragon.
I also run an Obelisk deck, and I combine it with The Tyrant Neptune, so when I tribute Obelisk and Hardened for its summon, is a 5500 atk / 4800 def monster that cannot be targeted or destroyed, lol!
Five headed dragon always goes over obi or blue eyes shining with the right cards or blue eye ultimate can. But that's just my deck cause my friend runs obi and I run over him by like third or forth turn
and what about double magic cylinder ? :D Any burn deck/Exodia deck/needleworm wombo combo deck can possibly win this if they can prevent obelisks attacks.
>winning because of the e-dragons well yea same could be said of any deck that has versatility if you dark hole in a random deck and attack for game did u win because of the dark hole? or your own cards? edrags are just staples now, not an entire deck anymore, and they help out decks like ice barriers to actually compete with newer decks
I"m going to try to list 20 ways to beat it. Grand Mole,Compulsory Escape Device(not evacuation),Madolche queen,d.d. warrior lady,d.d. warrior,d.d. assailant,Spellbook of fate,Lava Golem,creature swap,rainbow neos(effect or attack),volcanic queen,wicked deadroot,wicked avatar,super poly,armor master,HTs psyhemuth,rainbow dragon (both effects) 18. wall of illusion 19. Skill drain (with target effect) 20. Destiny hero plasma (since it negates obelisks effect) There are many more though.
A powerbonded cyber end dragon with limiter removal for the otk of justice. Or a power-bonded Chimeratech overdragon. Basically a cyber dragon extra deck can beat it...though cyber dragons aren't that popular...
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Neo-Spacian Grand Mole: doesnt target, gg lol
HS0Rare That is a rage card im so glad its limited to one but it could go to three if they made it so he still goes to grave when he returns opponents card
Madolche queen tiramisu doesn't target either.
+Master Mayhem no he doesn't. He goes back in your hand.
EDIT: I just realised my mistake. My apologies.
+Master Mayhem if they did that they would have to include battle damage which would defeat the purpose of using the card
Rob the Hungry Says who? They wouldn't do that. Right now Yugioh is going down the make too much too over powered and this is using the term overpowered correctly in so many ways.
I seem to faintly remember episode 68 (just slightly):
Kaiba:"Now prepare to meet: a creature like none you seen before. I will sacrifice my 3 Blue-Eyes: GO MY GREAT BEASTS! So I can summon my Egyptian GOD CARD, an almighty creature. That knows no equal! Behold: its ABSOLUTE power! The INVINCIBLE Obelisk The Tormentor! HAHAHA!
You're no match for an Egyptian GOD CARD; Now behold Obelisk The Tormentor's Special Ability. I sacrifice to MORE of my monsters to INCREASE HIS POWER! Now Obelisk, destroy ALL of their monsters."
Lumis:"He just wiped out our DEFENSE!"
Kaiba:"And now my Egyptian GOD CARD: Finish them off!"
Lumis:"I'm really sorry to DISAPPOINT YOU, but Mirror Force will reflect Obelisk's Attack right back at yo-"
Kaiba: "I'm afraid that YOU'RE WEAK TRAP WON'T WORK! Heh, Now GO!!"
-nuclear explosion occurs-
Kaiba: "HAHAHAHA VICTORY IS OURS! YOU TWO ARE FINISHED!"
Watching this in 2015 this is so underwhelming.
+Sina Shahbazi ya know right? The newest Xyz and Synchros are like.... wow a round 5 monsters on field or 2 OP cards. With the new Pendulum? Say GB to this old deck m8.
Foxy Striker point is that "can't be targeted or destroyed by card effects" is barely that good anymore. Before spellbooks it really was unstoppable, then came fate which for some reason didn't target but still banished and now half the cards don't target yet can easily remove (monarchs stormforth, trishula, erebus, tiaramisu etc.)
Yeah man this is just sad
+Sina Shahbazi I'm watching this in 2016, pretty overwhelming
+David von Johnston III Are you from new zeland? 2016 didn't come here yet.
i tried to play this game but is almost impossible for a new player to get cards, can you give me any advice?
Nice to see someone else run the immortal Obelisk. Obviously there's lots of things that get around it, but the most common would be Honest. But you're right, most of the meta doesn't have a response for something like this. Hell, most of the meta has a hard time with just a regular Obelisk on the field.
***** No, it doesn't. Nothing is being done to Obelisk when using Honest. Your monster is just simply gaining ATK equal to your opponents monster; in this case, Obelisk.
Daneler Hostcrexcum
plus honest activates during the damage step so obelisk effect doesnt matter
Daneler Hostcrexcum i get destroyed by torrentials. it targets all monsters not Obelisk directly. that's how torrential's technicality works.
But torrential doesn't work if you used Hardened Armed Dragon in Obelisk's summon
PyroTakun
How to defeat immortal obelisk
1) Honest
2) Gorz upon obelisk's direct ATK
3) Sephylon the ultimate timelord (even better if u can summon a 4k fairy in addition)
4) Spellbook of fate
5) Madolche queen tiaramisu
6) Skill drain (only for targeting, not destruction)
7) Powerful equip cards (Megamorph, united we stand)
8) Gishki zielgigas
9) Sky scourge norleras
10) MIRROR WALL
Although this is an old video, can you explain why Obelisk survived that Mirror Force at 4:06 ? I was checking the OCG rulings and it says he can since his ability only says "target," which excludes area effects (Dark Hole, etc).
+Roger Lee (The Jumbaco) If you tribute Hardened Armed Dragon for a Level 7 or higher monster, that monster can't be destroyed by Card Effects.
Thanks, that's nice to know!
add mound of the boundful creator then its too OP
hm. wasnt sure it would still carry the animation tho. if im right. the back ground being white will make that part transparent? as in with the default circle its just the circle. with white
The first time i used this setup i lost. I got obelisk on the field and whatever he did i could easily counter. then he had a card that could change the level of all cards on the field. the way it was worded allowed it to target obelisk. My harden Armour dragon was no longer active. He took out obelisk the turn. I still remember that fateful battle to this day.
Anime duel?
so i cant read the whole combo asnmy screen is too small but wouldnt rainbow neos work to take it out? since it doesn't target obelisk specifically but all monsters and it is not monster destuction?
Can Lava Golem beat Obelisk?
ya lol bc u tribute obelisk
you can also use Metaion. I love this card, it's so underrated.
It can return every monster from the oponent doesn't matter how well protected it is.
CGames
Exactly I have an entire deck built around the Timelords and its actually really effective.
You could also go for Excalibur then use his effect and crash into obelisk.
My friend made a Ice Barrier/Frog deck... It was actually pretty good. Look up the card "Wetlands" , the deck meets that requirement, stalls, and attacks directly.
creature swap
nope remeber hard armed dragon
***** creature swap doesnt target :P
***** boo
CHOI HJ skill drain. then effects wont even matter
CHOI HJ easiest way would been limiter removal on a machina fortress
can you make a deck list of this deck
storming mirror force ftw? XD
this is a 2013 vidoe...
@98cod just because each player chooses one card does not mean it targets, creature swap is the same and does not target.
Creature Swap
yup its like gettig out that Hazy Basiltrice with 5 xyz mats and than getting wrecked by creature swap xD
Thats going to be the new Meta Card
There are a lot of non targeting single creature removal. Fissure, Hammer Shot, Volcanic Queen too mention a few. That's why I find this easy to get rid of. That's why you should have hammer shot in your side deck.
dna transplant changes it to any attribute you want. or you can use super poly plus dna surgery (machine) plus overdragon. Or you could simply go dna surgery (machine) plus foretress dragon.
Im buying all the playable egyptian god cards and dragon master knight with everything to summon him. Ive also got 5 headed dragon, so on a scale of one to 10 how good will my deck be?
To deal with my brothers powerhouses, I used to use a card called Physical Double. It makes a token during the opponents turn with the same attack as his strongest monster. Would that work here?
I have always loved the immortal obelisk idea with Hardened arm dragon but I kind of like my version of it better, I don't use frogs to bring it out and I use several other powerful cards like White Night Dragon so it doesn't revolve around having Obelisk and they also help bring out that Obelisk or whatever on the first turn with Hardened Arm Dragon's other effect.
so easy way to get over ANY Obelisk is Book of eclipse/ Swords of concealing and crossout. did this in a mirror match of ghostricks where he got it out both rounds and did the same thing twice.
Any card that makes you return Obelisk to the hand would pretty much trump you. Also Effect Veiler can get rid of the effect of Obelisk not being destroyed by card effects. You'd need some backrow help to keep that Obelisk on after you've succeeded in summoning him by tributing hardened armed dragon.
is this the music for devpro or do you add it in?
put it would prevent the effect, that it can't be targeted by card effects. so with skill drain in play, he can be banished by dimensional prison for example. or simply use compulsory evacuation device.
a few ways to break this lock are neo spacian grand troll, metaion, dropping honest when u atk, spellbook of fate, trish(if ur playing ocg), morphing jar #2, super powering something with sirocco, or using huge ass beatsticks such as malefic cyber end, 5 head dragon, dark neosphere. But yeah i doubt most decks would ever play most of these cards, making this still a hard to break lock. and if i was playing heros i would go excaliber crash
I'm not sure but couldn't i use dna/fortress combo to get him away by using him as a fusion material? (sry for my bad english...)
I used to run this deck a lot back before e-dragons came out and it was a super strong deck. Now that most of the traps to stop obelisk are gone due to the banlist, it's a much more powerful deck. Btw the extra deck is really useful if they manage to stop your obelisk because you can get gachi and other rank 2's for defensive plays.
I was thinking about my Banish-Psychics, only ways I can think of to get rid of Hardened Obelisk would be Psychiconductor Behemoth or attacking over it, though that would involve a high level Synchro or Fusion + Future Glow
dna transplant you can make obelisk any attribute. With dna suregery you can also make it machine for overdragon super poly or fortress dragon withut super poly.
if this is ygopro. where do you get uour extra icons for. such as your graveyard kuriboh
it can if you use dna transplant. or if your playing machines dna surgery and super poly for overdragon or just dna surgery for foretress dragon.
Lava Golem, Volcanic Queen, Sky Scourge Norleras and Morphing Jar #2
are some cards that can stop that combo since those cards do not target nor do they destroy.
What's the name of the background sound?
i used hardened dragon in the new blue eyes deck star eater bkue eyes and azure eyed cant be targeted cards cannot activate and they are uneffected by card effects. Also did you guys know maiden was supposed to be the second ever tuner monster released some odd years ago?.
Im fully aware that Obelisk is divine. Super poly will still work with either dna transplant (for heros) or dna suregry (for machines though better just to go dna surgery and fortress without super poly to overdragon).
dna transplant to change it to any attribute or dna surgery plus super poly for machines to get overdragon though you could just get fortress with the same method.
i havent played yugioh in a long time so i dont know shit! but im still a fan! lol but would 1 jinzo would be good in this deck?
What is the whole deck profile extra deck and side deck too
My only question is. I was playing obelisk today and a guy used mirror force and looked up a ruling and it specifically says that mirror force and two other cards CAN destroy obelisk. I followed cuz he showed me a ruling. But I still question WHY?
I have an unstopple winged dragon of ra but can only be used in unlimted, also first turn summon with over 20,000 attack actuall it depends on how much time you have it can petionally go all the way up to infinte
It wouldn't destroy Obelisk, but I do have a deck that could potentially beat it. I use a Mystical Shine Ball OTK. It uses Venus to summon all three Shine Balls, which I can then power up with Photon Booster (MSB = 2000 ATK). Next, I activate DNA Surgery to make them into machines. This allows me to use Limiter Removal (MSB = 4000 ATK). I finish the combo with Delta Attacker to have (at least 2) Shine Balls attack directly and win the game. Alternately, I can use Seal of Orichalcos and Honest instead of DNA Surgery and Limiter Removal (have Venus attack with Honest's effect for the remaining 2000 damage, which could also kill Obelisk).
I could actually pretty easily hit over Obelisk with my irl deck even back when this video was uploaded provided I had a bit of luck. I ran a machina fortress deck, and while machina fortress couldn't naturally take out obelisk, I had a lot of cards like solidarity or heavy mech support platform which could easily provide me with an extra 1500+ atk to tie/beat obelisk. If I got stuck top-decking I'd be in trouble though.
super poly doesn't work. What card uses divine beast and/or divine to fuse?
this combo also works good with wicked avatar. Since Avatar's atk is always 100+ the highest atk on the field it pretty much can't be destroyed by battle.
Its because its "choose". I've heard that selecting counts as targeting but choosing is not. Im not sure though. I just assumed that cause in devpro my opponent negated an effect with turtle that said select so I gess select is target but choose is not.
Neo-spacian grand mole, d.d. warrior lady, honest, madolche queen, spellbook of fate, creature swap and so many other ways to stop obelisk like cmpulsory escape device.
what are you using to play all these gamesog yugioh?
Thanks for this, I actually made a similar setup with Ra for no other reason than curious to see if it would work.
If I was still dueling, I'd use it with either Wicked Dreadroot or Wicked Avatar just for laughs
If you can attack over Obelisk, it has to be one of the most satisfing things to do. I did it once with Beast Machine King Barbaros Ur + Horn of the phantom beast against a mecha phantom beast obelisk deck. Going plus off obelisk = awesome
will you take a look at my obelisk deck and let me know what you think im posting the a new video today and its makes the deck faster but let me know what you think I should change
It is very possible to defeat a player using Obelisk or Ra or Osiris, but not the monsters themselve. i am thinking of something like burn deck with defences using Path of Destiny Wave motion which detonates and making 1000x standby turns, some traps, which doesnt negate attack but transfers the damage to the opponent.
grand mole doesnt target. d.d. warrior lady doesnt target, madolche queen doesnt target, spellbook of fate doesnt target, creature swap doesnt target. so tell me, what targets?
So with skill drain out, you can compulse it, phoenix winged wind blast it, ect?
how do you plan on using super poly on an obelisk?
He is just like Chaos Max Dragon. The way I usually rater of deck if it can get over Chaos Max Dragon and DM can with Apprentice Illusion Magician. Ancient Gears can with Chaos Giant. I suppose light decks can with Honest.
And Machine deck that combine Sin monster as well and the structure deck is about to be release really soon as well. Gemine deck can easy kill off this deck skill drain is use in it as well. ^_^
well if you have a target card. It still cant be destroyed cause of hardened and it can tribute itself for its effect if necessary. Skill drain will just allow you to target it.
how are you playing yugioh since dueling network is down also can you do a deck profile for this deck
Dremmit Garrison check out ygopro
What tcg ruling says it targets or conflicts wih that ruling?
I love the kuriboh on the graveyard when a card is put there.
My Umbral Horrors can negate Hardened Armed Dragon's effect with Number C104: Umbral Horror Masquerade, which is actually quite easy to get out as long as I have a Rank-Up-Magic in my hand.
oooooooo okay thanks for that, so what about creature swap? would that work with rabbit?
I think DevPro's fire king deck can still top that. Use Tiger King's effect to nullify Obelisk's effect, since it doesn't target, then use Fire Fist Bear's effect to destroy Obelisk.
What about a Dark Gaia how the fiend and rock use to fusion summen it have over 3000 atk?
My first day on dueling network someone was using this friggn deck and I was running a stall deck. I had just gotten my setup right too and friggn obelisk comes out.
iam the only one who is confused cuz obelisk has survived the mirrorforce? in his effect text he cannot be targeted, but mirrorforce does not. so why is he still on the field? pls answer
I use destiny heroes so I guess I could just play scapegoat during your turn, summon a monster during my turn, special summon plasma, Plasma negates Obelisk's effect, I equip Obelisk to plasma, now Obelisk is gone and my Plasma has 3900 attack and negates all your face-up monster effects. Would that work?
two quuestions one what does ftw mean and will you do a deck review of this
great effect but a powerbonded cyber twin and a limiter will trample over or cyber eltani will send to grave not destroy so thats something to think about
What do you use to play?
Dueling Network and this, but what is this?
Devpro
What game is this? Where do i find this? And does it cost money?
Would you make an extra deck and make a deck profile? This looks stupid fun lol
Grand Mole,Compulsory Escape Device(not evacuation),Madolche queen,d.d. warrior lady,d.d. warrior,d.d. assailant,Spellbook of fate,Lava Golem,creature swap,rainbow neos(effect or attack),volcanic queen,wicked deadroot,wicked avatar,super poly,armor master,HTs psyhemuth,rainbow dragon (both effects) 18. wall of illusion 19. Skill drain (with target effect) 20. Destiny hero plasma (since it negates obelisks effect) super poly doesnt just work with hereos DNA surgery UFOroid fighter.
Do people not realize that super polymerization can work if you use dna surgery for chimeratech overdragon or dna transplant for shining. Or you could use dna surgery and use chimeratech fortress dragon.
I also run an Obelisk deck, and I combine it with The Tyrant Neptune, so when I tribute Obelisk and Hardened for its summon, is a 5500 atk / 4800 def monster that cannot be targeted or destroyed, lol!
For me it would not be hard to get rid of it, I would just use stellarknight triverr
Escape device targets i believe, thats why u can chain rabbit to it and still resolve.
What about yubel-ultimate nightmare would that work ?
Do you have a Fiend's Sanctuary in there?
how will you get a wind? stratos banned lolol
And which deck besides T.G runs creature swap successfully?
"Like, almost nothing can't get over this thing." Excal seems to be able to crash into it @4k atk
In Bujin's defence, either of the bujin xyz plus crane should be enough if Obelisk is only at 4000
Where do u guys get to play Yugioh?? Is it PC or a video game??
Five headed dragon always goes over obi or blue eyes shining with the right cards or blue eye ultimate can. But that's just my deck cause my friend runs obi and I run over him by like third or forth turn
and what about double magic cylinder ? :D Any burn deck/Exodia deck/needleworm wombo combo deck can possibly win this if they can prevent obelisks attacks.
>winning because of the e-dragons
well yea same could be said of any deck that has versatility
if you dark hole in a random deck and attack for game did u win because of the dark hole? or your own cards? edrags are just staples now, not an entire deck anymore, and they help out decks like ice barriers to actually compete with newer decks
I"m going to try to list 20 ways to beat it.
Grand Mole,Compulsory Escape Device(not evacuation),Madolche queen,d.d. warrior lady,d.d. warrior,d.d. assailant,Spellbook of fate,Lava Golem,creature swap,rainbow neos(effect or attack),volcanic queen,wicked deadroot,wicked avatar,super poly,armor master,HTs psyhemuth,rainbow dragon (both effects) 18. wall of illusion 19. Skill drain (with target effect) 20. Destiny hero plasma (since it negates obelisks effect)
There are many more though.
This same thing can be done with earthbound uru. He has a lower cost and with hardened arm dragon won't be destroyed by his earthbound own effect
can you give recipe for this deck , i would like to try it in yugioh tag force..
question: what is the Yu-Gi-Oh platform you are using? I want to play that too :)
+Almartino Andro Poland Limjoco YGO Dev-Pro
what website or dueling thing is that
nordics can you can easy summon odin 4000 atk monster for monster what more do your obelisk deck got?
A powerbonded cyber end dragon with limiter removal for the otk of justice. Or a power-bonded Chimeratech overdragon. Basically a cyber dragon extra deck can beat it...though cyber dragons aren't that popular...
how about ghostrick or cyber end?
Escape device doesnt target though. Only compulsory evacuation device targets. Escape is both people shuffle one of their monsters.
Can you do a cloudian smoke ball for deck?
United we stand + goblin attack force + mage power?