It's Joshua's woodworking school shop. Mine isn't always so tidy, though for work like this tidy is beneficial, especially on the bench itself. I clean mine constantly.
Thanks a lot! When cleaning between the pins, do you always start at the tip and than flip to the bottom (tearout?) or doesn't it make a difference? Thanks again.
Dave, thank you for the cool video. I am wondering what kind of dovetail jig that is? Is it just a bent piece of metal or are they made for sale? Is the brass mallet still produced? Thank you! Bryce
Those markers you’re talking about are made by Veritas; they’re pretty inexpensive and come in 1:6, 1:8, and 14°. The saddle marker is also made by Veritas and is fairly priced. There are plenty of manufacturers for brass carvers mallets; tools for working wood, Veritas/Lee Valley, Fox, Woodcraft, Taylor Toolworks, RJ Ramellson, etc...
Nice job...well done...video work was as it should be...my question is does the end justify the means ( time spent )...in other words does your skill transform to worthy quality or just time wasted ego..?? aside from that it does show your ability..A+
you could ask the same thing about watching a RUclips video. What would your answer be? I like to spend my time making things well. It's not cost effective, but it is emotionally and intellectually satisfying.
Hi, I know this is old, but great video, thanks. Can someone post a link to the 45% square Dave Heller used to mark the miters? That looks like a tool worth owning. Thanks
Strength of a dove tail joint comes from the sides of the pins and tails being glued together. In shorter fibre wood, wouldn’t these very narrow pins break off easily?
No. The forces that the dovetail is resisting are straight down, so through the thickest part of the dovetail. No reasonable force could break it, though hanging a truck off of one edge probably would. Make one and put it together. It feels welded, even without glue.
Darned good question. I have wondered that myself, but it doesn't look right to me laid out with the half pin. It certainly doesn't affect the strength, so it's what your eye prefers.
I cut London style tails first using a thin marking knife to mark the pins from the tail board. This would not work well on wood that does not show marking knife lines on end grain.
it's easier and faster to do it the way I showed it, but the result is what counts. If you can cut it tails first really tight, and it makes you happy, I won't argue with you.
Rob Cosman demonstrates London style tails first and uses a toothed marking knife to scribe/cut tail ends in endgrain. Shown here: ruclips.net/video/hIkwZFBbPHo/видео.html
Dumbest comment I've seen in a long time regarding woodworking. It's as if you commented just to make it seem like you know what you're talking about and, you clearly don't. Settle down and go practice. Nobody needs your advice. You silly boy
I love the look of those dovetails, but I don't think I'll ever have the patience for hand cutting any kind of dovetail. I don't really aspire to be a "fine" woodworker, I'm just trying to be a not too terrible woodworker. ;)
Excellent video, especially for experienced woodworkers. My only complaint is the aggravation I felt watching him mark those miters with a framing chisel. I mean, he's got to have a 1 inch chisel in his kit. In any case, the guy is good.
I do have many chisels in my kit but I hadn't brought them to Joshua's clssroom, where the video was filmed. My 2" chisel is very sharp and I always have it because it has a huge reference flat surface.
@@daveheller3268 Well, it's a minor complaint, but I felt like you were hitting a brad nail with a sledge hammer. In any case, nice job on the dovetails.
Speak softly and carry a large chisel. (Teddy Roosevelt, almost). It did look odd. I've gotten used to using it over the years, and it's a wonderful tool, but it does look like severe overkill when seen on the video. I'll try to bring a smaller chisel next time.
I guess in London they don't have any bench dogs? this might just be a demo on how to do these type of dove tails but those were a bit sloppy I have hand cut standard dove tail joints they ARE NOT EASY and the speed that you saw your cuts I was amazed that they fit as well as they did interesting video but not showing your best results
It's just a demo dude, teaching the technique not showing off how precise it can possibly be. He didn't even measure the pin spacing. They fit well because he's been doing it a long time, and he's using top notch tools.
I agree he is very good at this BUT if your not going to try to show your best why bother & besides my main comment was that he did not take the time to use the bench dogs to clamp his work down while chiseling it out thats kind of a safety thing as well as doing the job better. Truly skilled I doubt that I can cut these in this manner without a lot of time spent on doing it a thousand times still safety is a big thing clamp you work down those chisels are sharp!
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Love this guy! Just comfortably excellent .
“if I was an old time cabinet maker, i’d make sure those gaps were the size of a chisel I own”. lol, classic!
I love to watch a good woodworker while he or she tinkers and muses on this ancient and elegant craft. What a privilege. Thank you.
You're most welcome...glad you liked it Corey!
I enjoy your lighthearted approach.
This guy seems very nice... would be cool to work with and learn from him
This is guy is not only good and skilled but also very funny, nice!
Enjoyable and I will “steal” some of your technique.
Great video was looking for both the mitred and london style dovetails so very helpfull! Cheers from London!
Thank you for your time. I'll practice this technique so I can use it one day.
Positive dovetails maker and interesting lesson, i have going to shop to cut some dovetails. Thx, very much!
I'm a new learner n dovetail style is a new thing for me 👍🏻
Your workshop is pretty organized n clean 😍
It's Joshua's woodworking school shop. Mine isn't always so tidy, though for work like this tidy is beneficial, especially on the bench itself. I clean mine constantly.
you could use the Cosman method for marking the tails.
Bravo. Fun demo.
Great to watch an engineer woodworker. Sounds RCEME.
Waterloo Chemical Engineer, 81 grad.
I enjoyed this video and the guy doing it was very good
Jolly good😃😎! Excellent teaching❤
Nicely done!! Cool to see someone just across the hill. Harrisonburg VA!!
Very nice!
love the mallet: where did that come from?
Great Craftsmenship!
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Great video.
"Posterity demands it" I like you ;)
Thanks a lot! When cleaning between the pins, do you always start at the tip and than flip to the bottom (tearout?) or doesn't it make a difference? Thanks again.
Sorry, not sure I understand your question.
Shout out from just down 64!!
Alright, a local! You'll have to come to one of our classes, or our free open house.
@@WoodAndShop when do they happen?
@@robertshort9487 Here are the classes & open house (click the "calendar" tab): woodandshop.com/school
2:43 Could not agree more haha
Thumbs up for the smoke PD345.
Dave, thank you for the cool video.
I am wondering what kind of dovetail jig that is? Is it just a bent piece of metal or are they made for sale?
Is the brass mallet still produced?
Thank you!
Bryce
Those markers you’re talking about are made by Veritas; they’re pretty inexpensive and come in 1:6, 1:8, and 14°. The saddle marker is also made by Veritas and is fairly priced. There are plenty of manufacturers for brass carvers mallets; tools for working wood, Veritas/Lee Valley, Fox, Woodcraft, Taylor Toolworks, RJ Ramellson, etc...
Nice job...well done...video work was as it should be...my question is does the end justify the means ( time spent )...in other words does your skill transform to worthy quality or just time wasted ego..?? aside from that it does show your ability..A+
you could ask the same thing about watching a RUclips video. What would your answer be? I like to spend my time making things well. It's not cost effective, but it is emotionally and intellectually satisfying.
Hi, I know this is old, but great video, thanks. Can someone post a link to the 45% square Dave Heller used to mark the miters? That looks like a tool worth owning. Thanks
Veritas
Strength of a dove tail joint comes from the sides of the pins and tails being glued together.
In shorter fibre wood, wouldn’t these very narrow pins break off easily?
z4zuse define easily. Length of fiber would have the same effect regardless of pin width. Bigger impact is thickness of the wood itself.
No. The forces that the dovetail is resisting are straight down, so through the thickest part of the dovetail. No reasonable force could break it, though hanging a truck off of one edge probably would. Make one and put it together. It feels welded, even without glue.
Thanks, no experience with variant. I will try this.
Strange that the base of the joint (opposite the miter) is a half TAIL rather than half pin. Is than common when doing London style mitered dovetails?
Darned good question. I have wondered that myself, but it doesn't look right to me laid out with the half pin. It certainly doesn't affect the strength, so it's what your eye prefers.
I cut London style tails first using a thin marking knife to mark the pins from the tail board. This would not work well on wood that does not show marking knife lines on end grain.
If your marking knife has teeth in it, or if you use your saw to mark off the pins, before you chop out the waste, it will work fine
it's easier and faster to do it the way I showed it, but the result is what counts. If you can cut it tails first really tight, and it makes you happy, I won't argue with you.
Rob Cosman demonstrates London style tails first and uses a toothed marking knife to scribe/cut tail ends in endgrain. Shown here: ruclips.net/video/hIkwZFBbPHo/видео.html
Dumbest comment I've seen in a long time regarding woodworking. It's as if you commented just to make it seem like you know what you're talking about and, you clearly don't. Settle down and go practice. Nobody needs your advice. You silly boy
Wondered how these were done Thanks
I love the look of those dovetails, but I don't think I'll ever have the patience for hand cutting any kind of dovetail.
I don't really aspire to be a "fine" woodworker, I'm just trying to be a not too terrible woodworker. ;)
I'm with you! It all sounds good, but I don't possess the patience for it all.
Excellent video, especially for experienced woodworkers. My only complaint is the aggravation I felt watching him mark those miters with a framing chisel. I mean, he's got to have a 1 inch chisel in his kit. In any case, the guy is good.
I do have many chisels in my kit but I hadn't brought them to Joshua's clssroom, where the video was filmed. My 2" chisel is very sharp and I always have it because it has a huge reference flat surface.
@@daveheller3268 Well, it's a minor complaint, but I felt like you were hitting a brad nail with a sledge hammer. In any case, nice job on the dovetails.
Speak softly and carry a large chisel. (Teddy Roosevelt, almost).
It did look odd. I've gotten used to using it over the years, and it's a wonderful tool, but it does look like severe overkill when seen on the video. I'll try to bring a smaller chisel next time.
Does'nt matter what you use if the result is what you want.
Don't get confused by "rules" in woodworking.
@@hdjg1 This has nothing to do with "rules." This is simple common sense.
He reminds me of Jimmy Fallon
2:49... that’s what she said!
It never gets old.
dovetail saw, tenon saw?
Dovetail saw
I guess in London they don't have any bench dogs? this might just be a demo on how to do these type of dove tails but those were a bit sloppy I have hand cut standard dove tail joints they ARE NOT EASY and the speed that you saw your cuts I was amazed that they fit as well as they did interesting video but not showing your best results
It's just a demo dude, teaching the technique not showing off how precise it can possibly be. He didn't even measure the pin spacing. They fit well because he's been doing it a long time, and he's using top notch tools.
I agree he is very good at this BUT if your not going to try to show your best why bother & besides my main comment was that he did not take the time to use the bench dogs to clamp his work down while chiseling it out thats kind of a safety thing as well as doing the job better. Truly skilled I doubt that I can cut these in this manner without a lot of time spent on doing it a thousand times still safety is a big thing clamp you work down those chisels are sharp!
still to much end grain not far from a but joint
Have to speed this up; speaking is so very so. It’s not a southern thing either, seems to be more of a mirthlessness than just a way 😴 💤
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Mitred dovetails should be hidden...Japanese style ...just my preference
That's not what he's doing.............Check your historical correctness.
Full blind are different. And can be extremely messy inside. Are also often thicker.