I've never figured out why people put special value on street. Street, park, DIY, whatever doesn't change difficulty, creativity, or risk of any particular spot or trick. It's the whole combination that matters.
I think it’s because skating street spots has a more punk rock/anti establishment vibe to it than using a designated space. Also people associate street/urban things with being cool. I personally don’t care too much for street myself. I generally prefer a skatepark for zero hassle and peace of mind. But then I am nearly 40 and mostly skate alone lol
@ I'm 42 and feel the same, but also felt that way when I was a teen skating. I'm only motivated for street when there's something that'd make a beautiful shot, is very unique, or something I just can't get at a park. And even then, I have limits because breaking people's stuff or leaving wax all over a place people sit isn't cool. It's not special just for being street to me and never has been.
Street skating has been much more difficult in my experience. Every spot always has something that makes it way harder like cracks in the ground where you want to jump, terrible run-ups, rough surfaces etc. Plus the added pressure of being somewhere you're not meant to skate, the public watching you, and possibly getting kicked out. These things make a simple handrail much more difficult compared to one at a skatepark that's usually lower, has a good run up and much smoother ground. Not to discredit park skating though, I am for sure just a park skater at this point and love a park edit as much as a street edit. But to me, they are definitely different.
Sorry man your argument is just completely wrong. Street skating is much more difficult, it’s riskier and more creative. You are taking something that is not designed to be skated and doing it anyway. That’s why it’s more highly valued, it’s objectively harder
Street is more creative by making spots that weren't intended to skate skatable. It forces a person to think differently and conform to a completely new environment everytime. There's cracks on the ground, dirt, bumps, different shaped ledges and rails, ect.. generally street spots are more difficult as well. Not even comparable to park. This is also why plazas became so popular as skate parks because they're more like street spots.
If it's in the streets, it's a street spot. If it's a park designed for skating, it's a skate park. Lots of popular street spots are probably designed in a way that's better for skating than those ledges, but nobody would call them "not street spots" just because they're good!
This is super hard to explain, but what if it's a normal public park that is designed to be skateable. Like the skateable part is second. It looks like a normal public park but all the panter boxes and seats and perfect for grinding and you are aloud to skate there. More and more spots like that have been poping up around me and I love them but they don't feel like skating street. They are way less challenging. What if future skatepark design doesn't look like skateparks but like street instead. If you film an edit there is it still a street part? It's a weird grey area to me. Not that it matters at all 😆
I hate that rounded ledge stuff especially in stainless steel. Slides so weird. Zero porn was awesome. You can get it longer with more speed and looking over your left shoulder instead of your right. It looks like your body position looking over your left is kicking you off early.
Funny you mention this. When I first saw that Broskow clip that he showed here, I realized I am guilty of doing the same thing (but opposite: I normally look over my right shoulder but should be looking left like Broskow did I'm thinking).
@@Rollerbalderon that Broskow clip it’s a curved ledge so that definitely helps keep you on and notice how he’s looking under his armpit? That really helps too
@ so if I go bondo a ten stair rail that has a crack it’s diy? Nah fam adding shit is still street lmfao diy is still street the only grey area is diy builders that know how to actually build (actually smooth even transitions ramps aren’t wavy that kinda shit)
@@Igobyrik yeah now you’re being a smartass logic man 😂 the concept of a “spot” is not a real physical thing, just a description we give stuff. You just described what I was saying where it’s still street if you touch it up with wax and bondo. But once you start putting genuine work in like adding concrete and metal grind covers then it’s more classed as a DIY
@ well of course I’m bein a smartass it’s the internet😉 nah I hear ya I’ve built a few diys and ledges just like these situations are always weird I’d consider this example above tho just modified street spot
It’s awesome seeing you skating again. You destroyed that ledge. You pretty much made me want to me go skate now. Ha
I've never figured out why people put special value on street. Street, park, DIY, whatever doesn't change difficulty, creativity, or risk of any particular spot or trick. It's the whole combination that matters.
I think it’s because skating street spots has a more punk rock/anti establishment vibe to it than using a designated space. Also people associate street/urban things with being cool. I personally don’t care too much for street myself. I generally prefer a skatepark for zero hassle and peace of mind. But then I am nearly 40 and mostly skate alone lol
@ I'm 42 and feel the same, but also felt that way when I was a teen skating. I'm only motivated for street when there's something that'd make a beautiful shot, is very unique, or something I just can't get at a park. And even then, I have limits because breaking people's stuff or leaving wax all over a place people sit isn't cool. It's not special just for being street to me and never has been.
Street skating has been much more difficult in my experience. Every spot always has something that makes it way harder like cracks in the ground where you want to jump, terrible run-ups, rough surfaces etc. Plus the added pressure of being somewhere you're not meant to skate, the public watching you, and possibly getting kicked out. These things make a simple handrail much more difficult compared to one at a skatepark that's usually lower, has a good run up and much smoother ground.
Not to discredit park skating though, I am for sure just a park skater at this point and love a park edit as much as a street edit. But to me, they are definitely different.
Sorry man your argument is just completely wrong. Street skating is much more difficult, it’s riskier and more creative. You are taking something that is not designed to be skated and doing it anyway. That’s why it’s more highly valued, it’s objectively harder
Street is more creative by making spots that weren't intended to skate skatable. It forces a person to think differently and conform to a completely new environment everytime. There's cracks on the ground, dirt, bumps, different shaped ledges and rails, ect.. generally street spots are more difficult as well. Not even comparable to park. This is also why plazas became so popular as skate parks because they're more like street spots.
It’s street with DIY modification. It’s cool that people let you skate there. Looks like you had a fun session
Skating solo with a crowd is no good, completely different when you got a squad with you.
Even having 1 other person skating with you helps a ton right?
@ Makes all the difference.
Take some sandpaper to the metal ledge and then a generous layer of wax
I think it’s more like a skate plaza now
I'd agree.
Tip from a goat, look at your skates while doing zero grinds.
I'm not sure if I wouldn't call it a street spot but I can say that I hate the sound they make :D
Right? The concrete ledge sounded so much nicer too.
If it's in the streets, it's a street spot. If it's a park designed for skating, it's a skate park. Lots of popular street spots are probably designed in a way that's better for skating than those ledges, but nobody would call them "not street spots" just because they're good!
This is super hard to explain, but what if it's a normal public park that is designed to be skateable. Like the skateable part is second. It looks like a normal public park but all the panter boxes and seats and perfect for grinding and you are aloud to skate there. More and more spots like that have been poping up around me and I love them but they don't feel like skating street. They are way less challenging. What if future skatepark design doesn't look like skateparks but like street instead. If you film an edit there is it still a street part? It's a weird grey area to me. Not that it matters at all 😆
dig out your aluminum frames, i bet they'll be scary fast on those ledges
I hate that rounded ledge stuff especially in stainless steel. Slides so weird.
Zero porn was awesome. You can get it longer with more speed and looking over your left shoulder instead of your right. It looks like your body position looking over your left is kicking you off early.
Funny you mention this. When I first saw that Broskow clip that he showed here, I realized I am guilty of doing the same thing (but opposite: I normally look over my right shoulder but should be looking left like Broskow did I'm thinking).
@@Rollerbalderon that Broskow clip it’s a curved ledge so that definitely helps keep you on and notice how he’s looking under his armpit? That really helps too
I'm actualy so guttered they put it on the ledges. Way hardfer to skate now.
Wait left or right shoulder for a right foot zero porn?
What are the skates you using in this clip?
TNEC 58 with BEK Wheels. Great cheap skates.
If it’s not at a park it’s street
Hope that helps
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Street that has been touched up outside of rub brick and wax is better described as diy
@ so if I go bondo a ten stair rail that has a crack it’s diy?
Nah fam adding shit is still street lmfao diy is still street the only grey area is diy builders that know how to actually build (actually smooth even transitions ramps aren’t wavy that kinda shit)
@@Igobyrik yeah now you’re being a smartass logic man 😂 the concept of a “spot” is not a real physical thing, just a description we give stuff. You just described what I was saying where it’s still street if you touch it up with wax and bondo. But once you start putting genuine work in like adding concrete and metal grind covers then it’s more classed as a DIY
@ well of course I’m bein a smartass it’s the internet😉 nah I hear ya I’ve built a few diys and ledges just like these situations are always weird
I’d consider this example above tho just modified street spot