Why are they so afraid to attack the fire. They could have gotten it when the second guy with the hose and air pack would have taken the hose and moved in.
Moved in...? 🤣 The fire was already through much of the first and second floors before the VFD even arrived. It moved so fast that one of the occupants was burned just trying to get their dogs outside. But why don't you suit up and show us how it's done tough guy?
@@steve87thpsap If you had ANY experience you would know this was a defensive job given the advanced conditions... especially with the volunteer status of the crew.
new construction house.. fire advanced already from garage to second floor.. no way you are going to mount an effective safe interior attack.. floor above agarge likely is nothing more than truss and OSB thats burned through.. not sure on their deck gun aim though.. that mioghtve been better used to shoot water in the upstairs window instead of water the back yard
Can’t put out a fire like that. But at least we know the lawn isn’t an exposure issue now. Idk how many videos I’ve seen where ladder and platforms putting water in one spot or hosing down the brick wall and not a drip of water on the fire.
Can’t put out a fire like that. But at least we know the lawn isn’t an exposure issue now. Idk how many videos I’ve seen where ladder and platforms putting water in one spot or hosing down the brick wall and not a drip of water on the fire.
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A bit after three minutes I was thinking I wonder if the deck gun would be appropriate here since it seems it was an exterior attack. I wonder if the deck gun/engine had been positioned a bit differently if it would have been more efficient?
@@jezpg8522 Because the fire had already spread through much of the interior and both floors before they even arrived. But thanks for confirming you have no idea what you are talking about.
0:01 In the TIME it took to lay out all that hose, the Deck Gun would have drenched the garage and all that would be left is mopping up. That means, the job would have been done LONG before the video started. How many times have I said that? 100 times? A 1000 times? As you arrive to find what's burning. You park so the DG has a good line of sight on the Visible Burning Material whether you use it or not because you may have to, eventually. Look how that straight stream is just pissing on that volume of burning material. Every second the energy of that fire could be penetrating the main part of the house. 0:10 Now watch him and think of a Fountain Statue. All through this video, that I can NOT watch from this point on, keep in mind, the fire should have been out before this video even started. Also keep in mind, this could be YOUR HOUSE and your HEROES are taking this long to save your possessions.
if they house is a total loss the homeowner gets a new house, no? maybe dont know watching a video and you can tell if they re doing it right? are you a fireman? have you put out house fires and have alot of experience?
I watched a house fire in my own neighborhood where the dept did exactly that.. now granted im in a rather large city where lots of manpower was on the way.. the first engine on scene hit the burning garage with the deck gun which knocked the remains of the garage doors out of the way and put a good douse on the garage and the vehicle on fire within.. similar to here the fire had extended to the room above the garage.. no self venting however we all watched the blinds melting down into liquid in the window.. the deck gun operator(the engine driver) mustve seen it too as he blew out the window with the deck gun and doused that room.. by then the other units started showing up and the crew on the first engine had hydrant supply established and were stretching 2 handlines.. the house was saved though lots of heat and smoke damage to the contents.. made use of all personnel and equipment efficiently and as a result the fire didnt stand a chance.. in the case here the fire got away so much an interior attack esp on the second floor mightve been dangerous due to deteriorated floor conditions.. I have no idea the building standard in WA state.. but here in ohio.. typical new construction is simply 2x4 metal plated floor trusses and OSB for decking..
The fire had already spread through much of the first and second floors before the VFD even arrived. It moved so fast that one of the occupants suffered smoke inhalation and the other was burned just trying to get their dogs outside. But yea you keep bloviating with your wannabe blather thousands of more times, it's quite entertaining watching a phony who's bitter because he couldn't get a single FD to accept him make a fool of himself... (honk honk) 🤡
@@rosesmith6208 JB is one of YT's biggest phony firefighters His only experience is playing with his LEGO Fire Station Playset Just a very bitter person because he couldn't find a single FD that would hire him
Apparently decided that defensive was good despite the huge opportunity to go offensive. Even though they wasted the opportunity to go offensive. Tough loss for the homowner.
The fire had already spread through much of the first and second floors before the VFD even arrived. It moved so fast that one of the occupants suffered smoke inhalation and the other was burned just trying to get their dogs outside. But why don't you suit up and show us how it's done tuff-guy...
the deck gun is misting down on the house to help cool the fire . an old trick to help make a inside move before walls fall in. from old 71 years fire fighter emt.
Every house fire I watch the homeowners always leave their cars in the driveway instead of moving them. I understand some can't get to the keys to move them but not every single one I see.
This is absolutely embarrassing. What is the point of them packing up, and WTF is the deck gun doing. I've never seen a fire department that only has exterior firefighters and they pack up🤦♂️
It was being used to wet down the B/C exposure that was about 20 feet from the burning house. Something you might know if you had any clue what you were talking about.
You can see a different fire company has arrived around 10mins as they just get the job done while being watched by the other company. Sorry if I'm wrong but that and some other things said in the comments all look obvious to us.
@@virgilhilts3924 Nice community with nice houses, you're telling me that running the number of what could be done by pooling their resources and pulling together as a team, spreading out the cost, it is impossible to find an affordable solution? I guess they can afford losing everything more, until they develop some political backbone.
@@xheralt "Nice community with nice houses, you're telling me that running the number of what could be done by pooling their resources and pulling together as a team, spreading out the cost, it is impossible to find an affordable solution?" -Cite where I stated or even implied any such thing... let alone "told you" anything... "I guess they can afford losing everything more" -What does that even mean Further, do you even have the slightest clue what it costs to staff an FD? I'm going to go out on a limb and bet you don't. Just to staff a single Engine with four Firefighters 24/7/365 is going to cost *at minimum* $2,000,000 per year. This town has a population of ~1,000 with ~500 households, so doing a little napkin math 2,000,000/500 = $4,000/year in taxes per household just to staff a single Engine.
Was someone afraid that the fire was going to burn down their engine? This is silliness and wasteful of time and water, to say nothing of destructive of the structure unnecessarily.
Imagine losing your home and contents and the auto, I am not a FF never was so I have no real opinion, all I know is these VOLUNTEERS do what most of us cannot or will not do, So come on be kind!
nice job getting it out, if there are flaws to this attack I am sure the chief will see to better training after all we cant always do it right 100 percent of the time and we all need refreshers no?
Only one line on that house you should be more than one to the two possible 3 to get that many off of a pumper they're not very aggressive about finding this far I want to see anybody that has smoke meth going getting ready to go in
I wouldn't be so quick to blame the guys here it looks as though their doing the best they know how to. If your lookig to critique id lay the blame oqn the department heads the chief the president of the department for starters because they have failed to train their people training and fire drills are the key to a great fire department im a 25 year volunteer firefighter now retired in the company i was in we had a mandatory training session at least once a monthn we were always dowing drills threw out the month every time we wowuld do a controlled burn of some structure we made it in to a training exercise we even involved surrounding companies so we all learned to wo together a one team my community was a small one as were surrounding communities during the day many worked outside of their community so often in emergencies 2 are 3 companies were dispatched to gain enough man power to handle any situation so training together just made good sense in 😂
Totally untrained people. Yes, you may have read a book on how to fight a fire, but real training with experienced firefighters would help. Think what would happen if you gave your 16 year old a book on how to drive and gave them the keys and said have fun.
I was going to be an ass and carp all over these guys. Then I looked it up and see that this town in in Egypt, not BFE but actual E. Well okay, Northwest E. So it is likely they are all volunteer. As such they probably don't get much practice at this. A regular big city fire department would have lead with the deck gun and followed with 2 1/2 hose. So no fault or malice assigned here. They did the best they could with what they had. Note the town is less than 1000 residents. I was a volunteer once in a big city. Our worst nightmare finally came true around 1979 when an huge apartment complex caught fire on a hot summer day. We had surrounding departments send help not asked for just because they could see the smoke from over 50 miles away. The place was so iconic, everyone just wanted to say they were there. In the end, 835 apartments were burnt to the ground. That doesn't mean much until you also understand what was saved. Another 800 or so apartments were saved.
All correct very difficult when you have 3 different engine companies from 3 different departments and a lack of direction this is what happens. Now maybe this will encourage mutual drills with responding neighboring districts. Other counties in washington practice mutual aid very well some need more time. For the most part this video should be about learning and what can be done in the future.
Vol Firefighters at their finest. Hittin hard from the yard too scared to go inside. Actually I can’t even give them the credit of hitting it from the yard, they were pussy smacking it from the yard.
Here we go again! All the armchair Fire Chiefs. This is how negativity starts when you don't have any of the details and most of the time don't have a clue of what your talking about. Negativity comes from people who can't make the grade.
Why are they so afraid to attack the fire. They could have gotten it when the second guy with the hose and air pack would have taken the hose and moved in.
Moved in...? 🤣 The fire was already through much of the first and second floors before the VFD even arrived. It moved so fast that one of the occupants was burned just trying to get their dogs outside. But why don't you suit up and show us how it's done tough guy?
@@virgilhilts3924 been there and done that but age and location now prevent me doing that. So yes I do know things and have trained people.
@@steve87thpsap
If you had ANY experience you would know this was a defensive job given the advanced conditions... especially with the volunteer status of the crew.
Could have done it better. @@virgilhilts3924
Yup
Unbelievable what people will put up with rather than pay the taxes for real fire protection.
They are burning the house down, Two guys on the attack on the outside of the building do not know what you’re doing
new construction house.. fire advanced already from garage to second floor.. no way you are going to mount an effective safe interior attack.. floor above agarge likely is nothing more than truss and OSB thats burned through.. not sure on their deck gun aim though.. that mioghtve been better used to shoot water in the upstairs window instead of water the back yard
@@eldoradoboy
It was being used to wet down the B/C exposure that was about 20 feet from the burning house
No the fire burned the house down.
@@virgilhilts3924that works!! Definitely a good use of it
Yup
Deck gun doing a great job watering the neighbors back yard!
right
🤣🚒🇺🇸
It was doing a great job at covering the B/C exposure which is exactly what they wanted to do with it... dErP
Can’t put out a fire like that. But at least we know the lawn isn’t an exposure issue now. Idk how many videos I’ve seen where ladder and platforms putting water in one spot or hosing down the brick wall and not a drip of water on the fire.
Can’t put out a fire like that. But at least we know the lawn isn’t an exposure issue now. Idk how many videos I’ve seen where ladder and platforms putting water in one spot or hosing down the brick wall and not a drip of water on the fire.
Lets stop and hope everyone is doing ok right let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated as always excellent outstanding brilliant great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated thanks wonder what the couse was much love and respect and appreciation job well done you should be proud stay safe and warm out there stay strong and healthy as well really appreciate the vidoes coming appreciate you guys thanks !!! Joe
Another foundation saved. Excellent work!
Lots to unpack here.
Where do you start naming what is terrible wrong? To sad to watch.
Okay tuff guy
@@virgilhilts3924stop being an asshole to everyone
Those men need some serious training. House and car a total loss. How sad.
Why don't you volunteer and show them how it's done?
A bit after three minutes I was thinking I wonder if the deck gun would be appropriate here since it seems it was an exterior attack. I wonder if the deck gun/engine had been positioned a bit differently if it would have been more efficient?
These are not firemen! They are hose holders!
Why they did they not attach externally and transition to internal attach?
They are called, "Fountain Statues!"
You have held your own hose for years.
Get the car out before it becomes an issue.
@@jezpg8522
Because the fire had already spread through much of the interior and both floors before they even arrived.
But thanks for confirming you have no idea what you are talking about.
Is it out yet?
Still burning...
0:01 In the TIME it took to lay out all that hose, the Deck Gun would have drenched the garage and all that would be left is mopping up. That means, the job would have been done LONG before the video started. How many times have I said that? 100 times? A 1000 times? As you arrive to find what's burning. You park so the DG has a good line of sight on the Visible Burning Material whether you use it or not because you may have to, eventually. Look how that straight stream is just pissing on that volume of burning material. Every second the energy of that fire could be penetrating the main part of the house. 0:10 Now watch him and think of a Fountain Statue. All through this video, that I can NOT watch from this point on, keep in mind, the fire should have been out before this video even started. Also keep in mind, this could be YOUR HOUSE and your HEROES are taking this long to save your possessions.
if they house is a total loss the homeowner gets a new house, no? maybe dont know watching a video and you can tell if they re doing it right? are you a fireman? have you put out house fires and have alot of experience?
I watched a house fire in my own neighborhood where the dept did exactly that.. now granted im in a rather large city where lots of manpower was on the way.. the first engine on scene hit the burning garage with the deck gun which knocked the remains of the garage doors out of the way and put a good douse on the garage and the vehicle on fire within.. similar to here the fire had extended to the room above the garage.. no self venting however we all watched the blinds melting down into liquid in the window.. the deck gun operator(the engine driver) mustve seen it too as he blew out the window with the deck gun and doused that room.. by then the other units started showing up and the crew on the first engine had hydrant supply established and were stretching 2 handlines.. the house was saved though lots of heat and smoke damage to the contents.. made use of all personnel and equipment efficiently and as a result the fire didnt stand a chance.. in the case here the fire got away so much an interior attack esp on the second floor mightve been dangerous due to deteriorated floor conditions.. I have no idea the building standard in WA state.. but here in ohio.. typical new construction is simply 2x4 metal plated floor trusses and OSB for decking..
The fire had already spread through much of the first and second floors before the VFD even arrived. It moved so fast that one of the occupants suffered smoke inhalation and the other was burned just trying to get their dogs outside. But yea you keep bloviating with your wannabe blather thousands of more times, it's quite entertaining watching a phony who's bitter because he couldn't get a single FD to accept him make a fool of himself... (honk honk) 🤡
@@rosesmith6208
JB is one of YT's biggest phony firefighters
His only experience is playing with his LEGO Fire Station Playset
Just a very bitter person because he couldn't find a single FD that would hire him
@@virgilhilts3924You have certainly showed your character.
Apparently decided that defensive was good despite the huge opportunity to go offensive. Even though they wasted the opportunity to go offensive. Tough loss for the homowner.
The fire had already spread through much of the first and second floors before the VFD even arrived. It moved so fast that one of the occupants suffered smoke inhalation and the other was burned just trying to get their dogs outside. But why don't you suit up and show us how it's done tuff-guy...
@@virgilhilts3924Why do you have to be a dick?
Today firefighters are scare or not strong enough to used 2 1/2" hose to attack fire. We do not see that anymore. It's pathetic to see them worked.
Chief finally appears in the video @ the 6:35 mark
the deck gun is misting down on the house to help cool the fire . an old trick to help make a inside move before walls fall in. from old 71 years fire fighter emt.
Cooling the onlookers in the back yard...
It was being used to wet down the B/C exposure that was about 20 feet from the burning house
@@virgilhilts3924You really have to be everywhere trying to prove your armchair skills.
Every house fire I watch the homeowners always leave their cars in the driveway instead of moving them. I understand some can't get to the keys to move them but not every single one I see.
A typical volunteer fire dept tactics surround and drownd
One firefighter couldn’t even get his SCBA pack on. 😂😂
Lost for words...
This is absolutely embarrassing. What is the point of them packing up, and WTF is the deck gun doing. I've never seen a fire department that only has exterior firefighters and they pack up🤦♂️
The crew on the blitz is doing a great job, but that deck gun - seriously?
It was being used to wet down the B/C exposure that was about 20 feet from the burning house.
Something you might know if you had any clue what you were talking about.
@@virgilhilts3924Fifth comment you saying the same thing while acting like an ass.
You can see a different fire company has arrived around 10mins as they just get the job done while being watched by the other company. Sorry if I'm wrong but that and some other things said in the comments all look obvious to us.
LaConner, WA needs to get a real fire department.
You ready to cut them a check?
@@virgilhilts3924I guess something is wrong in your life.
@@virgilhilts3924 Nice community with nice houses, you're telling me that running the number of what could be done by pooling their resources and pulling together as a team, spreading out the cost, it is impossible to find an affordable solution? I guess they can afford losing everything more, until they develop some political backbone.
@@xheralt
"Nice community with nice houses, you're telling me that running the number of what could be done by pooling their resources and pulling together as a team, spreading out the cost, it is impossible to find an affordable solution?"
-Cite where I stated or even implied any such thing... let alone "told you" anything...
"I guess they can afford losing everything more"
-What does that even mean
Further, do you even have the slightest clue what it costs to staff an FD? I'm going to go out on a limb and bet you don't. Just to staff a single Engine with four Firefighters 24/7/365 is going to cost *at minimum* $2,000,000 per year. This town has a population of ~1,000 with ~500 households, so doing a little napkin math 2,000,000/500 = $4,000/year in taxes per household just to staff a single Engine.
Was someone afraid that the fire was going to burn down their engine? This is silliness and wasteful of time and water, to say nothing of destructive of the structure unnecessarily.
You had one job to do and you blew it!!
three stooges fire department for sure
That’s hitting it hard from the yard.
We all knew from the get go that this house was doomed.
Was this a test to see how far away you could set up and still extinguish a fire?
@shawnc1016 for real walk up on this thing!!!
Get the car out before it becomes an issue.
Urban renewal LaConner, WA style!
Those two inch and a half lines aren’t doing nothing
do they know what there doing ?
Sad sad said sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad
Amateur hour at the fire department
Imagine losing your home and contents and the auto, I am not a FF never was so I have no real opinion, all I know is these VOLUNTEERS do what most of us cannot or will not do, So come on be kind!
nice job getting it out, if there are flaws to this attack I am sure the chief will see to better training after all we cant always do it right 100 percent of the time and we all need refreshers no?
Only one line on that house you should be more than one to the two possible 3 to get that many off of a pumper they're not very aggressive about finding this far I want to see anybody that has smoke meth going getting ready to go in
This fire was an ugly beast!
I WAS ON THE JOB ! IVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE ! I COULD HAVE PUT IT OUT BYMYSELF EARLY ON !😮😢🤨🤨
You may want to consider not making yourself look so foolish
I wouldn't be so quick to blame the guys here it looks as though their doing the best they know how to. If your lookig to critique id lay the blame oqn the department heads the chief the president of the department for starters because they have failed to train their people training and fire drills are the key to a great fire department im a 25 year volunteer firefighter now retired in the company i was in we had a mandatory training session at least once a monthn we were always dowing drills threw out the month every time we wowuld do a controlled burn of some structure we made it in to a training exercise we even involved surrounding companies so we all learned to wo together a one team my community was a small one as were surrounding communities during the day many worked outside of their community so often in emergencies 2 are 3 companies were dispatched to gain enough man power to handle any situation so training together just made good sense in 😂
Totally untrained people. Yes, you may have read a book on how to fight a fire, but real training with experienced firefighters would help. Think what would happen if you gave your 16 year old a book on how to drive and gave them the keys and said have fun.
No ladder, no deck guns!
very unorganized
Jaja nosé si es posible q ellos sé den tantas bombas como q si es tan en defifiles 😅 para pagar un fuego 😢
I was going to be an ass and carp all over these guys. Then I looked it up and see that this town in in Egypt, not BFE but actual E. Well okay, Northwest E. So it is likely they are all volunteer. As such they probably don't get much practice at this. A regular big city fire department would have lead with the deck gun and followed with 2 1/2 hose. So no fault or malice assigned here. They did the best they could with what they had. Note the town is less than 1000 residents.
I was a volunteer once in a big city. Our worst nightmare finally came true around 1979 when an huge apartment complex caught fire on a hot summer day. We had surrounding departments send help not asked for just because they could see the smoke from over 50 miles away. The place was so iconic, everyone just wanted to say they were there. In the end, 835 apartments were burnt to the ground. That doesn't mean much until you also understand what was saved. Another 800 or so apartments were saved.
All correct very difficult when you have 3 different engine companies from 3 different departments and a lack of direction this is what happens. Now maybe this will encourage mutual drills with responding neighboring districts. Other counties in washington practice mutual aid very well some need more time. For the most part this video should be about learning and what can be done in the future.
Vol Firefighters at their finest. Hittin hard from the yard too scared to go inside.
Actually I can’t even give them the credit of hitting it from the yard, they were pussy smacking it from the yard.
Here we go again! All the armchair Fire Chiefs. This is how negativity starts when you don't have any of the details and most of the time don't have a clue of what your talking about. Negativity comes from people who can't make the grade.
O GOD NO !???😮 THE CREW LO0KD TERRIFIED ? WTH ???