I've got mine today, installed on Cube stereo hybrid 140, kiox display, easy to install, no problems with fitting wires, easy to set up, works fine! The only issue is that actually it gives you boost up to +/- 50 km/h on turbo mode, so no way you can ride much faster than 50 km/h. Still I am happy to have it, more options and more fun than speed limited to 25 km/h.
For those of you wondering about the 504 Error, I rode my Trek Allant 2022 model for commuting and even after 700 miles of riding the error didn't occur. Don't avoid the countdown, as annoying as it is, it prevents the system from detecting the tuner for you. You can wait 5 min and it even auto shuts off. As long as you do what the speedbox organization directs you to do, you should be fine with the speedbox 3.0. Happy ebiking!!
@@len9483 if you have the gen 3 motor you may have to take the crank off, but with gen 4 motors there’s no need to take the crank off and you can simply take the cover off and install the chip.
Active Line Plus. I did not end up needing to remove the crank arm to gain access to the wiring. The placement for the connectors to the motor varied from that in the video. I ended up having to loosen the motor from the bike frame to get enough wiggle room in the wiring to remove the plugs. First ride, on the dirt track behind my house, worked great.
I have a Speedbox 3 fitted to my Scott emtb and have now clocked up 3800Km - everything works fine. One habit you must learn - is to NEVER turn off your display (let it time out) and NEVER plug your charger into the bike until the display has gone blank via its normal time out mechanism. If you turn off the display early, then you will trigger the Bosch anti hacking software on your bike which means a dealer reset.
I sometimes get 503 error, even though i never turn off computer until it countes down to 0. Now I read that you say never to plug charger to bike until its off. I never heard anything about that. Can you tell what you know about that problem?
@@runef7471 , the Bosch gen 4 motors have anti hacking software. If you have a speed dongle fitted and you plug in your charger or before the display has fully reset it will trigger the anti hack lockout. Unfortunately I have discovered (the hard way!) that even though the display looks like it has timed down to zero the software doesn’t agree!! Consequently the only way to be absolutely sure that the software has correctly reset after a ride is to wait for the display to time out and go blank after a ride. Since I have taken this approach I have never had a problem. We have a number of Bosch powered bikes: our Haibike, Scott and Canyon bikes all are fitted with dongles, and I can report that waiting for the system to go to sleep is foolproof. Hope this helps.
Got it, installed it and had some trouble with the speed indicator connection. Installed it again. Worked like a charme. Walk mode is the on/off switch, so walk mode doesn't function anymore. I ride my bike, so that doesn't bother me. I have the 2020 Bosch CX Performance 4th gen and I have driven >200 km the last 2 weeks, even in some pretty bad weather. I love it!
@SpeedBox Tuning : I've not seen the performance I'd expected to gain after installing my SB3, best I've managed is low 50km/h's on a downward incline. Now I know I'm not fit enough to perform this on my own, so it IS working to some degree, but I expected the Pedal Assist to be much better than it is at lower speeds (I bought the SB becuz I am extremely unfit and required the additional assistance but it doesn't seem to be there). Do you have any thoughts about the lack of performance improvement I'm experiencing? Also, when j first purchased this bike (2nd hand), the previous owner had moved the speed sensor magnet onto the crank arm, and the sensor in a location to pick it up there. I changed this once I installed the SB and noticed - was there anything to gain from them doing this? I've ever since had troubles getting the speed sensor to pickup the magnet. I've tried a small cube length of neodymium stuck to the spoke, and also a regular bike computer screw on sensor, and neither is better than the other, I have to fiddle with the magnet and the speed sensor before each ride to get it working and prey it continues to work. I'd really appreciate some technical assistance/feedback from you guys as soon as you have the time. Cheers, Nash
Installed mine back in January on the top of the range Trek Mountain bike. I have done at least 50 long rides with it without any problems at all, It just works every time. I don't know what the "leave on until 0 is shown" means. Sometimes I forget and turn it off straight away without waiting for 0, but it makes no difference, it still works normally every time.
The reason that you should wait is that the Bosch system will know that the sea box is plugged in don’t wait. It’s a computer so it recognizes there’s something plugged in and work around from Bosch is that you wait till it says 0.0.If something happens to your motor god for bed, your warranty will be void.
Just installed the 3.0 on a 2020 CX with purion display , just awesome what a speed, no need to remove the pedal on my bike on installation. Flat out with MTB tires I reached 52km/h on a flat road. Safely shutting down the bike just takes 5-8 seconds. Totally happy! UPDATE: Drove 500km no problems. Shutting down time is longer than 5-8 seconds. More like 30-40 seconds. I notice it gets shorter when i put the setting back to max 25kmh mode for the last 300 meters of the ride. That saves 50%. Again have to say its a great ride i average 40-45 kmh can easily keep up with speedpedelecs :)
I did not need to remove the crank arm on my 2020 Riese and Muller Delite. Just removed the two screws for the cover and voila simple install. First ride today and everything worked well. My bike does have the 85nm update. Thanks !!
I also own a RM (Delite Mountain) and there was a RX Chip hidden inside the motor cover which i removed. Was it a problem to place the speedbox inside the cover? I think there is not much space...
What is the RX Chip for? To fit the SpeedBox just takes a little time to carefully pack it in the small space around the motor and secure it with a zip tie. The bike now has 9674 miles and haven’t had any problems.
Sorry guys, this was in 2012. It was a non-electric bike. The gears and the mountains allowed me to do that😁. Just got a cube acid hybrid 400, with Bosch motor 500w. It doesn't have gearing to go over 35mph..
I had an idea: on this ebike Cube acid 400, with mid motor, I am thinking of adding a 1500w 48v front wheel motor. Plus, derestrict the Bosch original motor (I already ordered speedbox 3.0)
1000k,s now since i installed speedbox ,great really is an easy install, tiny cable tie for the wiring and tuck the box away ,literally done in minutes
Thnx for you quick response. Got the chip out, received the upgraded, put the chip back in. Tested it, got a new bike. Specially in ECO you can feel a much better response and longer range. Very pleased with the upgrade and the Speedbox.
@@SpeedBoxTuning Nice video I have cube touring hybrid one 500 ebike, since it is a paddle assist and due to my health requirements I would like to add throttle to my cube ebike, please advise / guide on how to go about having throttle control installed in it. Thank you
As mentioned in the posts below, the hardest part of this install is keeping all the wires in place as you install the motor cover. I suspect this procedure wasn't shown in the video because it is very hard to do.
Thanks for great video just got another gestapo bosch motor (Great Priced full carbon Canyon Grail On: Wished the had used wonderful Yamaha motors....) so bought another great speedbox. Correct me if I am wrong, respectfully why did you have to pull the crank arm to remove the cover ? I did the same procedure 2 years ago on that model motor and easily removed the cover by removing those two torx screws without pulling the crank. As everyone can see by this video you can easily get to them by turning the crank arm out of the way.
Hello. We are glad that you are satisfied with the SpeedBox, even if it is not for a Yamaha motor 🙂 It is true that it is not always necessary to remove the crank from the motor. We made a video of the handle being removed to demonstrate this option as well. Plus the video is clearer and the motor cover did not obstruct the shot.
Got the news there is a software update for the Bosch 4th gen, with some pretty great new stuff. Can we use the old chip or do we need a to buy a new chip (Which I don't mind, because I like the fun of it!)
SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch is fully compatible with new 2021 Bosch update. This update is related to Gen4 only so you must have SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch to be able to enjoy the new udpate.
I‘ve read that the Bosch software detect the modification and deactivates the motor completely after some minutes of usage. To unlock it you have to visit the bike dealer. Is that true?
SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch overcomes this. We stay behind our products. Furthermore, if Bosch accidentaly detects tuning, motor is still usable, just the motor support is decreased for a while. To resolve this, you don't have to visit the bike dealer. Visit the bike dealer is just one of the options.
yes bosch software will detect it, but only after few hundreds km.., probably something in the statistics of usage doesn't sum up and it will trigger a tunning detection, happened to me on cx perfomance Gen4, was all good the first rides but after ~300km it started to show random speeds while riding, then error 504, limp mode, and had to take the speedbox 3 out, will not use it again
I dont have this brand I have a Philodo H8 which alone I have 9 PAS modes, but usually use hand throttle and can hit 38 mph when freshly charged, then it drops to like 31-34 mph range when riding a little. I just want to know if theres any tune kits for that type of bike, all the computer parts are located in a bag by the battery, and a box on the bottom frame by the front tire. I just want my bike to take of quicker sometimes lol cause it has times where it peels out, or times where you have to pedal to help the motor realize I want to go lol
when is the speedbox 4 out ? the version 3 is putting a lot of Bosh Gen 4 and older Gens with the firmware updates into Limp mode after so many miles. WHEN WILL THIS BE FIXED ? and why are the speedbox makers all quiet about this like its not happening..
Hi, if the Speedbox 3.0 is removed from the bike before any warranty claim, will they be able to detect that it was plugged in, and then invalidate the warranty?
Yes ones the "computer" of the bike is conntected to the dealer/sellers laptop etc for service etc. History of the bike will show that in its "lifespan" it has provided more KW's at higher speed which leads to the proof the engine has been messed with.
Hey, is the speed limit setting permanent or do you have to set it every time you toggle the speedbox on? If you don't activate the speedbox on your ride do you need to wait before turning the bike off? How long do you have to wait before turning the bike off and does the wait time depend on the length of the ride or the kilometers you have put on the bike?
Hello Vesa. Sorry for late reply. Speed limit setting is permanent until next change in settings. You do not need to wait for the countdown, if you do not activate the tuning. Yes, the countdown process depends on the length and speed of the ride - usualy takes a minute or two.
Hello SpeedBox, this looks great and think it will work well with my Trek. Just one thing I didn't quite get. When SpeedBox is deactivated, does the motor revert back to Bosh original settings until activated again on the walk button. ie Can you flick between Bosh and SpeedBox?!
When SpeedBox is deactivated, bike acts like there is no SpeedBox installed = default speed limit. You can turn the SpeedBox on/off whenever during the ride.
@@SpeedBoxTuning Nice video! I have cube touring hybrid one 500 ebike, since it is a paddle assist and due to my health requirements I would like to add throttle to my cube ebike, please advise / guide on how to go about having throttle control installed in it. Thank you
Will this work with the new update just came out recently? And does it effect the EMTB mode that ensures even better control on the trail since the new update?
@@artgreg2296 I've just bought mine but not opened the box. However, I've had mixed reviews. Some people say it work's with the latest update I believe that you need to make sure that when updating the latest bosch software that you remove the speedbox and always make sure you let it run-down the clock before switching off and before connecting your charger. It should work that what I've been told. I'll wait for the someone from the speedbox box team to answer us. But checking their the Facebook page they inform us that it works with the current version!
@SpeedBox Tuning what you do if you stop at stoplight and countdown start? Can you pedal forward? I live in city, I stop at stop light many time , and another one and another one.. What happen if I pedal before countdown is over? What happens if you ran out of battery life?
We counted with situations when customer must stop on traffic lights. In this case you are allowed to interrupt the countdown. Basically, countdown might be interrupted occasionally. However, it must not be completely ignorred. Just at the end of your ride, please let it count down to the 0.
It works.. But I can only set it to 25 kmh and 99 kmh. I can't set any other speeds. I'd like to set it to 32kmh.. I'm following the steps in the video, but i can't set the speed correctly.
I've got a brand new 2020 trek powerfly 5 and I've been told that if this is fitted it will work fine for around 30 miles then go in to limp home mode , You then need to take it to a shop and it will need resetting from there lap top , The new software in the bike will tell the computer that it's been messed with and the warranty will be gone ,Plus ths speed box will need removing , On early bikes they can be hacked but the manufacturer's are now wise to it and have stopped it , people are never happy they always want a bit more . Myself I am happy with my bike as it is ,I can go along at 14 to 15 mph for my whole ride and I certainly couldn't do that on my normal bike , If I wanted to go faster I would just get another motor bike , personally I think my ebike is a great bit of kit .
I think it sucks that Bosch/Trek would sabotage the software. You should be free to do whatever you want once the warranty is expired. Does Bosch/Trek warranty the bike for life? NO! Then remove this "limp mode" shit. I'll never buy another Trek or any other BS product that does this to their computers, (ie: TESLA).
bonjour.sur un moteur bosch performance line cx MY15 BDU2xxCX "generation2" sorti en 2015,quelle speedbox faut-il que j'achete....merci pour la reponse
If I have Shimano Steps E6100 series motor with 36V 250W 50Nm + 36 V Comfort Li-Ion battery 625Wh (17.4Ah) 40-65Nm what will be the highest max speed ? Thanks
Requested advice from Speedbox for the e-bike I have, got the 3.0 for Bosch also ordered their crank puller. But puller does not fit Canyon GrailON. No options, warnings or advice from Speedbox or it's website. Local bike shops do not carry a bigger non-standard crank puller either.
Hi Carlo. We recommend a crank puller for e-bikes where this is needed to remove the crank. We do not recommend a crank puller in general for all e-bikes with a Bosch motor, as we do not know which e-bikes necessarily require a crank puller and which do not. Thank you for your understanding.
My (Canadian purchased) 2022 SCOTT Strike eRIDE 920 has the BOSCH Performance Line CX GEN-4 , which has 5 plugs all with wires going into them .Only 1 of the ports don't have a wire plugged into it. Is there some other product or adapter that I'd require to make this work?
Hello, I have a cube reaction pro 2020 bike with performance line cx motor and it has the unit software 1.0.2.0, is it compatible with this version? Has anyone had problems with this software? Thank you.
There is nothing better than a firmware flashing/cracking. (I never bought a limited bike. I bought electric motor kits only to avoid these speed limits).
Yes it WILL void your warranty. I run a bike shop and these render your bike illegal and the manufacturer will not cover you should there be a problem. Your bike can record data that can be addressed under warranty circumstances. This is setting a dangerous precedent Speedbox Tuning.
Found an interesting post on emtb forum telling also NOT TO PLUG THE CHARGER WHILE THE COUNTDOWN BOSCH 4th GEN - 504 LIMP MODE post! Just wanted to share some info and insights for Bosch Gen4 motors and tuning kits and the dreaded 504 limp mode code. We spoke to the Speedbox factory directly about this issue, so here are some insights about Speedbox 3.0 and Limp mode: Speedbox 3.0 tuning motors experiences limp mode (504) when the count-down is not done correctly for 3-4 times. The count-down is the way Speedbox walks-around the anti-tuning system from Bosch. When you ride the bike, you must leave the count down go to zero on the speedometer. If you do interrupt the count-down for too many times (3-4 times in a row) then 504 error might pop-up. This 504 is easily fixed: You have to completely uninstall the Speedbox and ride for 90 minutes with speed limits. The error then disappears. If Bosch motor has 3 of these 504 errors - you might need to take the motor to the workshop where Bosch mechanic will reset the motor, but this voids the warranty then. What else interrupts the countdown? Once the ride is finished, you should wait till the count down stops to zero in order to charge the bike. Charging without waiting for the count down come to zero interrupts the countdown. Another thing, sometimes when you ride and stop at a stoplight or take a breath - there is no other way just to pedal when the countdown is started, but its ok to interrupt one or two times in a row - its important not to interrupt it 3-4 times in a row. Just be careful when the countdown starts to let it finish, whether it takes 10 seconds or 5 minutes
The sockets on my Haibike Trekking 3.0 with Bosch performance line CX motor look different - there are two smaller sockets with plugs in and one larger one. Question is which of the smaller sockets does the Speedbox plug in to?
Great video! I have a 2015 Haibike Xduro Hardseven with the Bosch Performance Line motor on it. Will this chip work with the older Bosch system? Cheers.
I read on the Bosch website that the motors can detect that it's going faster than it should and goes into a low run mode that can only be reset by a Bosch technician with a code. Is that true?
Basically, it's true. However, there are ways how to overcome that. SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch is the way. It's fully compatible with the newest Bosch motors.
I think I have a question that could help all people having performance cx 2020. Will the 2021 85 newton update will be compatible with the speedbox 3? Or will there be a mandatory update on the speedbox 3?
I went to one of my bike dealer he told me he does not make the 85newton upgrade because that would break the unrestriction kit... but did not know kit of which brand
I have been using the Speedbox 3.0 for Bosch for 6 months now. But must say I am confused and disappointed. Despite setting speed to 9,9 (or 99kph) I am only achieving an extra 5kph on average (and with wind behind me up to 10kph). Any help, advice or comments would be welcome from other SpeedBox users. BACKGROUND: My bike is a Canyon GrailON (build 2021) with manual gear shifting. I have followed instructions carefully, reset & repeated them more than once - and talked to SpeedBox Support people a couple of times but no joy. Note that I am a regular sports cyclist, +100km per week, at speeds of 50kph on non-e racing bikes so the pedalling of the rider is not the issue.
Hello. What is the speed limit of your e-bike? 25 km/h? Can you take a test please? Set the Turbo mode and then briefly press "EMTB - Tour - Eco - Tour - EMTB - Turbo" and set the maximum speed to 15 kmh. Then check if the motor stops helping at that speed. Then set a higher maximum speed, for example 45 km/h, and repeat the test. If even this does not help to increase the speed, contact your seller and ask for a replacement. Thanks.
Can you do this without the crank puller? My Speedbox 3 just arrived (Amazon) but now I'm seeing the installation video and it uses the puller. Now I'm finding that Speedbox actually sells it on their website but now I would have to wait awhile for it to arrive.
Why do you have to leave the bike on until it shows 0.0 km/h? What is the reason? What happens if you don't? Saying it is fine but I would like to understand why.
Great video! I already got mine installed on my activeline plus last year. Although having watched your video I didn't realise there was a speed setting available. I have the Bosch Purion display same as the video but the activeline plus motor. Does this have the speed setting as cannot get it to flick between speeds apart from Turbo etc. Cannot get it to say 0.3, 0.35, 0.4 etc..
Second half of the video is dedicated to speed limit setting. I'll be happy to help you figure it out, please just contact me on info@speedbox-tuning.com.
I just bought your speedBox 3 and installed it on my new 2020 Cube Reaction Hybrid EX that has the new software installed (85 NM vs 75NM) Displ : 4.0.0 DU: 1.1.00 Bat : 1.1.0 and I have received 2 ERROR's on the display in the last week. Why is this happening??? Other than that I love your speedBox 3.
your comment is interesting because i was planning to buy the same bike and i went to one of my biker dealer he told me he does not make the 85 newton upgrade because it would likely break the unrestriction kit. do you nevertheless manage to ride with it? despite the errors?
@@artgreg2296 So far the bike still works after you shut it off and start it again but it could be the 3rd time is the charm. I will let you all know if and when I get #3 Error. Also I have heard that if you remove the speedbox 3 and ride the bike for 45 minutes or so that it fixes itself or you run the magnet over the sensor many times it will fix it but that was on older bikes. I will update in the future.
@@artgreg2296 I got a 3rd error not much later than my last response. After that I pulled the SpeedBox3 and battery then road it for some hours then reinstalled it and now it seems to work somewhat being that I don't get Errors any more but it sometimes cuts out for a few second when i am over 25k then I just push the walk bottom and it takes off again. Another thing I have noticed is the display ( computer) will not shut off after 10 minutes automatically when the SpeedBox3 is installed it counts 1K ever 10 minutes even when the bike is standing still.
This is a report from a user that has the new software installed (85 NM vs 75NM) Displ : 4.0.0 DU: 1.1.00 Bat : 1.1.0 => "I got a 3rd error not much later than my last response. After that I pulled the SpeedBox3 and battery then road it for some hours then reinstalled it and now it seems to work somewhat being that I don't get Errors any more but it sometimes cuts out for a few second when i am over 25k then I just push the walk bottom and it takes off again. Another thing I have noticed is the display ( computer) will not shut off after 10 minutes automatically when the SpeedBox3 is installed it counts 1K ever 10 minutes even when the bike is standing still.
Hi. Have the 3.0 speedbox on a Bosch performance. I just realized that I only can enable the tuning via the app. The walk button or the +-+- no longer enable the tuning. Any tips?
I have a Speedbox 2.0 that I just bought and installed although it is not going as fast as i had hoped from the Videos that i saw. My Bike is a little bit faster (It goes 25mph now and did do 20 to start). I installed my Speedbox 2.0 on my 2019 HaiBike XDuro AllMTN 2.0 with the PW-X Motor. I really need this bike to go faster. Is there any way to make my bike faster with new Speedbox 2.0 (programming or something)? And i thought watched something saying that the different power modes during the pedal assist use were adjustable with the Speedbox 2.0? Like the Torque and regen and so on. Is this true? I want to turn the Torque up to maximum, as well as speed and Regen. Is this possible?
I wonder what this tunning does to your motor in the long run.. Yes, it drains the battery much, much quicker, that's obvious. Can the bosh gen 3 handle that sort of extra 'stress' 'assistance' ?
We've been producing SpeedBox products for Bosch motors for seven years now. I mean there is many customers who use our products for seven years. Battery is not being drained so much quicker. Depends on your speed and plenty of other things such as riding mode, terrain, your weight, etc.
The controller set up for this one seems very confusing. I like one where you can just use you phone app to change settings. Wire setup is easy peasy though.
Hi man. Do you know if it will work with the new trek rail 9.8 2021? Because the display .. I mean the visor is diferent. Could you help with this question please? Thanks so much
Hello, yes we confirm compatibility with all the Trek bikes. SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch is compatible with all the displays - Intuvia, Nyon, Purion, Kiox and Cobi.
cant you just go into manufacturer setting and change the settings.also does this work on wheel motors or is it just crank motors also did you leave your part hooked up and try to find room inside or do you remove it once you put codes in then put back together and once its done does it effect battery i would imagine it drains battery faster thank you
Speed can not be unlocked anywhere in the settings. SpeedBox is compatible with mid drives only. Ebike tuning drains battery a bit faster. However, it is just one of many factors that have impact on discharging of the battery.
It says that you shouldn’t turn off display before 0kmh or 0Mph with speedbox. What happens if you accidentally do so or if you run out of battery and it shots down? Thank you
I've read someone on a forum say that if you power down, when you power up again the countdown resumes. Seems to be doing something to fool the stats in the motor. Like sending a signal that the wheel is still turning so the power used was correct etc.
@@tekmekster It's not about the speed limit you set up. That can be way higher. It is about the countdown. If you don't know about the countdown or if you just ignoring it -> 504 going to happen. We recommend to read our written manuals and product descriptions.
@@SpeedBoxTuning I tried 35 Km/h. 30 just seems to be the ideal speed for my current bike setup. I read somewhere. If you don´t wait for countdown it will just continue after next start. (since my countdown is very short anyway, i almost dont´t have to deal with it)
Per my last post - What I mean is - when I turn on using top button do I then each time have to go to the walk button to select 6.1 or whatever the Speedbox is set to please - Or does it remember and pick up from the previous mode I. E either normal or speedbox?
Hi. After switching the e-bike off and on, it is necessary to activate the tuning again. The display shows a value of 9.9 kmh or 6.2 mph. But if you set a maximum speed of, for example, 30 mph, it will stay in memory and you won't have to set it again every time 🙂
Do you have bike models where a tuning device doesn't fit inside? I have a Carver Strict E.410 bike and the place inside that powerunit is razor thin! I don't see a device fitting there inside at all.
Hi, I have a 2023 bosh gen4 ebike (Cube) And i got the Speedbox 3.0B This has Rectangular plugs but my bicycle has small round plugs. How do i convert this?
Hello Emanuel. Looks like you have a Bosch Smart System. Boch calls it 4th generation, in fact it is more like 5th generation. That's why Bosch 3.0 doesn't fit there - it's only up to the 4th generation. Don´t worry, try contacting your dealer for a replacement kit.
I've got a COBI smartphone adapter (came with the Bike). Will it work with the smartphone display? If I get the installation wrong is there some sort of assistance from Speed box? I take it more control via the SpeedBox App
Yes, SpeedBox is fully compatible with COBI. You can reach us on many phone numbers that are situated on our website. You can reach us on Facebook, Instagram, email, etc.
I've got mine today, installed on Cube stereo hybrid 140, kiox display, easy to install, no problems with fitting wires, easy to set up, works fine! The only issue is that actually it gives you boost up to +/- 50 km/h on turbo mode, so no way you can ride much faster than 50 km/h. Still I am happy to have it, more options and more fun than speed limited to 25 km/h.
Your comment just sold it for me I have a cube stereo hybrid pro 500w hoping it gives me 50 too
New speedbox 3 is unlimited speedbox 1 was 50kph which is pretty fast to get around traffic and such.
Hey mate! I hope i works for my cube stereo hybrid 140 hpc race too..
How long does the battery last though I imagine it goes super fast
For those of you wondering about the 504 Error, I rode my Trek Allant 2022 model for commuting and even after 700 miles of riding the error didn't occur. Don't avoid the countdown, as annoying as it is, it prevents the system from detecting the tuner for you. You can wait 5 min and it even auto shuts off. As long as you do what the speedbox organization directs you to do, you should be fine with the speedbox 3.0.
Happy ebiking!!
Hi there. Do you still are not getting the error code? Alencar here. Thanks
@@Ju-dn1jq still no error, I use my Trek Allant 7s for doordashing and it’s a champ.
@@nassiratti8542 Do you have to do all the steps as in the video at around 3:32? Seems a bit confusing. Thank you.
@@len9483 if you have the gen 3 motor you may have to take the crank off, but with gen 4 motors there’s no need to take the crank off and you can simply take the cover off and install the chip.
Thank you Nassiratta, but I was referring to scrolling through all the modes and pressing the up and down buttons to see the speeds.
Active Line Plus. I did not end up needing to remove the crank arm to gain access to the wiring. The placement for the connectors to the motor varied from that in the video. I ended up having to loosen the motor from the bike frame to get enough wiggle room in the wiring to remove the plugs. First ride, on the dirt track behind my house, worked great.
Thank you for your positive feedback.
I have a Speedbox 3 fitted to my Scott emtb and have now clocked up 3800Km - everything works fine. One habit you must learn - is to NEVER turn off your display (let it time out) and NEVER plug your charger into the bike until the display has gone blank via its normal time out mechanism. If you turn off the display early, then you will trigger the Bosch anti hacking software on your bike which means a dealer reset.
Did you have 1.5.0 Firmware
I sometimes get 503 error, even though i never turn off computer until it countes down to 0.
Now I read that you say never to plug charger to bike until its off. I never heard anything about that. Can you tell what you know about that problem?
@@runef7471 , the Bosch gen 4 motors have anti hacking software. If you have a speed dongle fitted and you plug in your charger or before the display has fully reset it will trigger the anti hack lockout. Unfortunately I have discovered (the hard way!) that even though the display looks like it has timed down to zero the software doesn’t agree!! Consequently the only way to be absolutely sure that the software has correctly reset after a ride is to wait for the display to time out and go blank after a ride. Since I have taken this approach I have never had a problem. We have a number of Bosch powered bikes: our Haibike, Scott and Canyon bikes all are fitted with dongles, and I can report that waiting for the system to go to sleep is foolproof.
Hope this helps.
@@oddjob4877 great !! Then that might be my problem.
Thanks m8 :)
@@oddjob4877 What if the battery runs out and I don't have time to wait to turn it off?
Got it, installed it and had some trouble with the speed indicator connection. Installed it again. Worked like a charme.
Walk mode is the on/off switch, so walk mode doesn't function anymore. I ride my bike, so that doesn't bother me. I have the 2020 Bosch CX Performance 4th gen and I have driven >200 km the last 2 weeks, even in some pretty bad weather. I love it!
Will this Speedbox 3.0 work for Bosch Center Motor Performance line CX Gen 4?
@@NetMillionaire Yes, we confirm compatibility.
How fast does it go, have you tested? I have the same motor
@@SpeedBoxTuning hi sell? Kit set ebike link have?
@SpeedBox Tuning : I've not seen the performance I'd expected to gain after installing my SB3, best I've managed is low 50km/h's on a downward incline. Now I know I'm not fit enough to perform this on my own, so it IS working to some degree, but I expected the Pedal Assist to be much better than it is at lower speeds (I bought the SB becuz I am extremely unfit and required the additional assistance but it doesn't seem to be there). Do you have any thoughts about the lack of performance improvement I'm experiencing?
Also, when j first purchased this bike (2nd hand), the previous owner had moved the speed sensor magnet onto the crank arm, and the sensor in a location to pick it up there. I changed this once I installed the SB and noticed - was there anything to gain from them doing this? I've ever since had troubles getting the speed sensor to pickup the magnet. I've tried a small cube length of neodymium stuck to the spoke, and also a regular bike computer screw on sensor, and neither is better than the other, I have to fiddle with the magnet and the speed sensor before each ride to get it working and prey it continues to work. I'd really appreciate some technical assistance/feedback from you guys as soon as you have the time.
Cheers,
Nash
Installed mine back in January on the top of the range Trek Mountain bike. I have done at least 50 long rides with it without any problems at all, It just works every time. I don't know what the "leave on until 0 is shown" means. Sometimes I forget and turn it off straight away without waiting for 0, but it makes no difference, it still works normally every time.
Do you remove battery for charging?
@@tekmekster No just use the charging point on the bike. It all still operates perfectly now after 100 rides.
The reason that you should wait is that the Bosch system will know that the sea box is plugged in don’t wait. It’s a computer so it recognizes there’s something plugged in and work around from Bosch is that you wait till it says 0.0.If something happens to your motor god for bed, your warranty will be void.
Just installed the 3.0 on a 2020 CX with purion display , just awesome what a speed, no need to remove the pedal on my bike on installation. Flat out with MTB tires I reached 52km/h on a flat road. Safely shutting down the bike just takes 5-8 seconds. Totally happy!
UPDATE: Drove 500km no problems. Shutting down time is longer than 5-8 seconds. More like 30-40 seconds. I notice it gets shorter when i put the setting back to max 25kmh mode for the last 300 meters of the ride. That saves 50%. Again have to say its a great ride i average 40-45 kmh can easily keep up with speedpedelecs :)
How are you getting on with it now? Any error come up? have you done over 1000km yet? Interested to hear your experience
@@tvaccount6211 Check my initial comment. I made an update.
how do you avoid the 504 error thing
@@sanderfrigolagroen5871 how u doing?
Hi i am the police...in ur country. What is your address?
I did not need to remove the crank arm on my 2020 Riese and Muller Delite.
Just removed the two screws for the cover and voila simple install.
First ride today and everything worked well.
My bike does have the 85nm update.
Thanks !!
Thank you very much for your positive feedback.
I also own a RM (Delite Mountain) and there was a RX Chip hidden inside the motor cover which i removed. Was it a problem to place the speedbox inside the cover? I think there is not much space...
What is the RX Chip for?
To fit the SpeedBox just takes a little time to carefully pack it in the small space around the motor and secure it with a zip tie.
The bike now has 9674 miles and haven’t had any problems.
@@frankiehoosier9165 the rx chip is a gps tracking device which comes with the bike
This is a fantastic idea and completely legal. It just means you have a way of switching to unlocked mode when you are not on a public road/path.
Not everywhere, not in France! up to 30.000 euros fine.. be careful lads, check your laws
@@dzengerinkdo u have an example on a actual case someone got that penalty?
Does it give me more power for hills?
Ok, nearly 50mph, downhill, on a Cannondale 26".. I was doing it every weekend.. absolute blast of fun!
Destroys range?
Is it worth to place it? I have bosch active line motor (36v-250w motor, 25km/h). My display is intuvia lcd display.
dangerous af
Sorry guys, this was in 2012. It was a non-electric bike. The gears and the mountains allowed me to do that😁.
Just got a cube acid hybrid 400, with Bosch motor 500w. It doesn't have gearing to go over 35mph..
I had an idea: on this ebike Cube acid 400, with mid motor, I am thinking of adding a 1500w 48v front wheel motor.
Plus, derestrict the Bosch original motor (I already ordered speedbox 3.0)
Got mine today; took 5 mins to install & another 5 to figure out how to setup the max speed limit. now for a test ride!
I am police in your country. I come to see you today.
Excellent product,v easy to fit and worked as advertised,no more horrible drag on the gen 3 bosch,feels like how an ebike should be.
Thank you sir.
maybe go to a bafang motor system. Bosch is for people that still like riding their bike.
10/10 on the guide probably the best guide video I've seen in a long time.
Hello.
Thank you for your feedback, we appreciate this! Wish you many happy miles!
Installed mine 2017 scott ,bosch cx ,in minutes ,works fabulous
1000k,s now since i installed speedbox ,great really is an easy install, tiny cable tie for the wiring and tuck the box away ,literally done in minutes
Thnx for you quick response. Got the chip out, received the upgraded, put the chip back in. Tested it, got a new bike. Specially in ECO you can feel a much better response and longer range.
Very pleased with the upgrade and the Speedbox.
Thanks for your positive feedback. It is appreciated.
@@SpeedBoxTuning Nice video
I have cube touring hybrid one 500 ebike, since it is a paddle assist and due to my health requirements I would like to add throttle to my cube ebike, please advise / guide on how to go about having throttle control installed in it. Thank you
I just ordered this system on Amazon. This better work.
Well, did it work?
@@iamIncrediblehulk Yes. It works. Just be aware of the countdown function after a ride. Over 28mph easily.
@@CONFUCIUS-f2x I waited 2 years for this? Lol 😆
@@iamIncrediblehulk 😄😄 I just got the notification. RUclips is kind of slow nowadays.
As mentioned in the posts below, the hardest part of this install is keeping all the wires in place as you install the motor cover. I suspect this procedure wasn't shown in the video because it is very hard to do.
@Matthew Mullins where are u stated in can?
Please, just tape them.
Again, coming from someone who's done this. It's easy. Really easy. There is plenty of room. Great bit of kit.
On which bike? Please.
@@johnieallen6115 It doesn't matter wich bike he did this to, because it's the Bosch motor what we are talking about and not the whole bike.
Thanks for great video just got another gestapo bosch motor (Great Priced full carbon Canyon Grail On: Wished the had used wonderful Yamaha motors....) so bought another great speedbox. Correct me if I am wrong, respectfully why did you have to pull the crank arm to remove the cover ? I did the same procedure 2 years ago on that model motor and easily removed the cover by removing those two torx screws without pulling the crank. As everyone can see by this video you can easily get to them by turning the crank arm out of the way.
Hello. We are glad that you are satisfied with the SpeedBox, even if it is not for a Yamaha motor 🙂 It is true that it is not always necessary to remove the crank from the motor. We made a video of the handle being removed to demonstrate this option as well. Plus the video is clearer and the motor cover did not obstruct the shot.
@@SpeedBoxTuning Great !!! Just ordered a Speedbox 3.
Can you help me please
so frustrating....not showing how you packed the wiring into the case. That was the whole reason I was watching.
Dont tell me you cant use tie ribs to pack it up men.. or did you have two left hands
Perhaps this mod is not for you?
they show it dangling free inside at 3:32
Use your imagination ffs
i'd suggest a little 3m vhb tape or cable ties
How about an updated video for 2021?
Por favor active subtítulos en español, el vídeo lo entenderán millones de personas más y tendrá más visitas. Gracias! Buen vídeo!
I installed Speedbox 3 B. without removing the pedal. Active Line Plus
so how about some longer-term review on this, anyone got bricked for good by now?
I've had a Speedbox on my Bosch motor from almost new. Currently done more than 12000kms and it still feels just like new. :-)
Had my speed box 2 for 2 years do approx 200 miles a week off road commuting and still going strong ,brill bit of kit
Seriously these things work - it’s fantastic
Thanks for your positive feedback.
Stealth tuning that can be switched
Love 💓 it
We appreciate your positive feedback. Thank you.
Is there an english version of the program on the phone ? Also, VERY IMPORTANT can you set the % of power at each level Eco, tour, sport and turbo ???
just installed seedbox2 nice 👌
Can you tell me why you have to wait for countdown to finish before switching off after a ride? Thanks
This is our way how we deal with Bosch's tuning detection.
@@SpeedBoxTuning What are the chances that this can be detected by a manufacturer even after being removed?
@@brakesforsnakes757 +1
SpeedBox Tuning what does “tuning detection” mean? Great product. What happens if you turn it off before the countdown ends?
Beautiful instructions on how to destroy the motor and battery
Dobrý den.
Instalace tuningu je neinvazivní, pouze se napojí na stávající konektory. Není důvod, aby tuning ničil motor nebo baterii.
Got the news there is a software update for the Bosch 4th gen, with some pretty great new stuff. Can we use the old chip or do we need a to buy a new chip (Which I don't mind, because I like the fun of it!)
SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch is fully compatible with new 2021 Bosch update. This update is related to Gen4 only so you must have SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch to be able to enjoy the new udpate.
SpeedBox Tuning can we leave the speed box plugged in whilst getting the update ?
@@Raceeverything If you leave the chip in, it will be found by the Bosch software during the upgrade and void your guarantee.
So if you take out speedbox when you get a service done is the bike shop able to tell if have had speedbox on there ?
Today I got 504 error after 8000 km 😮
I‘ve read that the Bosch software detect the modification and deactivates the motor completely after some minutes of usage. To unlock it you have to visit the bike dealer. Is that true?
Good question i want to modify my bosch motor as well. I think i have to wait a little till i got more details about this
Can only speak for a 2019 Bosch Performance Line CX. Works fine with mine. Can't tell about the Gen4.
SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch overcomes this. We stay behind our products. Furthermore, if Bosch accidentaly detects tuning, motor is still usable, just the motor support is decreased for a while. To resolve this, you don't have to visit the bike dealer. Visit the bike dealer is just one of the options.
yes bosch software will detect it, but only after few hundreds km.., probably something in the statistics of usage doesn't sum up and it will trigger a tunning detection, happened to me on cx perfomance Gen4, was all good the first rides but after ~300km it started to show random speeds while riding, then error 504, limp mode, and had to take the speedbox 3 out, will not use it again
@@SevenCuriosities ....pffffff. Horrible. I would like to go a few miles faster but not with all the hassle you had. So what now?
I dont have this brand I have a Philodo H8 which alone I have 9 PAS modes, but usually use hand throttle and can hit 38 mph when freshly charged, then it drops to like 31-34 mph range when riding a little. I just want to know if theres any tune kits for that type of bike, all the computer parts are located in a bag by the battery, and a box on the bottom frame by the front tire. I just want my bike to take of quicker sometimes lol cause it has times where it peels out, or times where you have to pedal to help the motor realize I want to go lol
when is the speedbox 4 out ? the version 3 is putting a lot of Bosh Gen 4 and older Gens with the firmware updates into Limp mode after so many miles. WHEN WILL THIS BE FIXED ? and why are the speedbox makers all quiet about this like its not happening..
My speed box goes to 2.1 instead of 6.5 for some reason now and it cuts out at 22 mph do you know why it’s a 4th gen
Same here, i have started to buy a 2021 cube cx to my dealer but will finally ask for a refund till there is a real tested working product
Hi, if the Speedbox 3.0 is removed from the bike before any warranty claim, will they be able to detect that it was plugged in, and then invalidate the warranty?
Yes ones the "computer" of the bike is conntected to the dealer/sellers laptop etc for service etc. History of the bike will show that in its "lifespan" it has provided more KW's at higher speed which leads to the proof the engine has been messed with.
Boa noite, excelente vídeo,
Olá, obrigado 🙂
Hey, is the speed limit setting permanent or do you have to set it every time you toggle the speedbox on? If you don't activate the speedbox on your ride do you need to wait before turning the bike off? How long do you have to wait before turning the bike off and does the wait time depend on the length of the ride or the kilometers you have put on the bike?
Hello Vesa. Sorry for late reply. Speed limit setting is permanent until next change in settings. You do not need to wait for the countdown, if you do not activate the tuning. Yes, the countdown process depends on the length and speed of the ride - usualy takes a minute or two.
Hello SpeedBox, this looks great and think it will work well with my Trek. Just one thing I didn't quite get. When SpeedBox is deactivated, does the motor revert back to Bosh original settings until activated again on the walk button. ie Can you flick between Bosh and SpeedBox?!
When SpeedBox is deactivated, bike acts like there is no SpeedBox installed = default speed limit. You can turn the SpeedBox on/off whenever during the ride.
@@SpeedBoxTuning Nice video!
I have cube touring hybrid one 500 ebike, since it is a paddle assist and due to my health requirements I would like to add throttle to my cube ebike, please advise / guide on how to go about having throttle control installed in it. Thank you
Wanna do this with my Tern GSD S10. Has anyone tried it?
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Will the Speedbox-3 work for Bosch Cargo line? About to order a cargo bike but need that extra assist. Thank you.
Hello, yes of course. SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch is fully compatible with Bosch Cargo line.
Will this work with the new update just came out recently?
And does it effect the EMTB mode that ensures even better control on the trail since the new update?
+1
Yes, it is compatible with new update that increases torque. It does not affect any of riding modes. EMTB mode still will be EMTB mode.
@@SpeedBoxTuning
That's great to know i will be buying.
Appreciated
The user James MacFarlane says it does not work. I wait for his explanation
@@artgreg2296 I've just bought mine but not opened the box. However, I've had mixed reviews. Some people say it work's with the latest update
I believe that you need to make sure that when updating the latest bosch software that you remove the speedbox and always make sure you let it run-down the clock before switching off and before connecting your charger. It should work that what I've been told. I'll wait for the someone from the speedbox box team to answer us. But checking their the Facebook page they inform us that it works with the current version!
Can this be used to calibrate a Bosch motor? I don't need to speed, just want to be able to ride 25 instead of being capped just under 23.
@SpeedBox Tuning what you do if you stop at stoplight and countdown start? Can you pedal forward? I live in city, I stop at stop light many time , and another one and another one.. What happen if I pedal before countdown is over? What happens if you ran out of battery life?
We counted with situations when customer must stop on traffic lights. In this case you are allowed to interrupt the countdown. Basically, countdown might be interrupted occasionally. However, it must not be completely ignorred. Just at the end of your ride, please let it count down to the 0.
Oh cool I think I’ll have to get one for my new 22 Trek Rail 9GX that’s coming in April. I assume you do for this.
Yes, soon, we'll start working on the new SpeedBox for 2022 Bosch Smart System.
It works.. But I can only set it to 25 kmh and 99 kmh. I can't set any other speeds. I'd like to set it to 32kmh.. I'm following the steps in the video, but i can't set the speed correctly.
I've got a brand new 2020 trek powerfly 5 and I've been told that if this is fitted it will work fine for around 30 miles then go in to limp home mode , You then need to take it to a shop and it will need resetting from there lap top , The new software in the bike will tell the computer that it's been messed with and the warranty will be gone ,Plus ths speed box will need removing , On early bikes they can be hacked but the manufacturer's are now wise to it and have stopped it , people are never happy they always want a bit more . Myself I am happy with my bike as it is ,I can go along at 14 to 15 mph for my whole ride and I certainly couldn't do that on my normal bike , If I wanted to go faster I would just get another motor bike , personally I think my ebike is a great bit of kit .
Clark Fox Yeah I agree. Why mess up your warranty with these hacks for what?
I think it sucks that Bosch/Trek would sabotage the software. You should be free to do whatever you want once the warranty is expired. Does Bosch/Trek warranty the bike for life? NO! Then remove this "limp mode" shit. I'll never buy another Trek or any other BS product that does this to their computers, (ie: TESLA).
JuanCabiker ,more fun!
bonjour.sur un moteur bosch performance line cx MY15 BDU2xxCX "generation2" sorti en 2015,quelle speedbox faut-il que j'achete....merci pour la reponse
Bonne journée. Nous recommandons la SpeedBox 3.0 pour Bosch. Il est compatible avec les générations 2, 3 et 4 🙂
Will this work with my Hitachi massager?
Only the children's model.
If I have Shimano Steps E6100 series motor with 36V 250W 50Nm + 36 V Comfort Li-Ion battery 625Wh (17.4Ah) 40-65Nm what will be the highest max speed ? Thanks
Whoah! You have Good battery i have E6100 its so fun with speedbox but max 50 km/h
Requested advice from Speedbox for the e-bike I have, got the 3.0 for Bosch also ordered their crank puller. But puller does not fit Canyon GrailON. No options, warnings or advice from Speedbox or it's website. Local bike shops do not carry a bigger non-standard crank puller either.
Hi Carlo. We recommend a crank puller for e-bikes where this is needed to remove the crank. We do not recommend a crank puller in general for all e-bikes with a Bosch motor, as we do not know which e-bikes necessarily require a crank puller and which do not. Thank you for your understanding.
Did you resolve this?
Cool :)
My (Canadian purchased) 2022 SCOTT Strike eRIDE 920 has the BOSCH Performance Line CX GEN-4 , which has 5 plugs all with wires going into them .Only 1 of the ports don't have a wire plugged into it. Is there some other product or adapter that I'd require to make this work?
Does this work with 2022 CX performance models?
Is it worth to place it? I have bosch active line motor (36v-250w motor, 25km/h). My display is intuvia lcd display.
@william gillan installed it already almost a year, works fine ;)
Wait... Did you just say 99 kmph??!!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯 Holy bonkers I better wear a helmet and protective clothing!
Hello, I have a cube reaction pro 2020 bike with performance line cx motor and it has the unit software 1.0.2.0, is it compatible with this version? Has anyone had problems with this software? Thank you.
@SpeedBox Tuning can you reply to this message as very interested in getting one of your chips
We confirm compatibility with this software version. Feel free to download it.
@@SpeedBoxTuning how can I check my unit software version please?
There is nothing better than a firmware flashing/cracking.
(I never bought a limited bike. I bought electric motor kits only to avoid these speed limits).
Very Nice... but will it void my 2 years warrenty on my bran New cube?
Don't worry. SpeedBox does not void warranty. In case of experiencing warranty, we recommend to uninstall the SpeedBox temporarily.
Yes it WILL void your warranty. I run a bike shop and these render your bike illegal and the manufacturer will not cover you should there be a problem. Your bike can record data that can be addressed under warranty circumstances. This is setting a dangerous precedent Speedbox Tuning.
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Does the speedbox works with the kiox controller? If yes, can you share instructions?
Did you get a response I would like to know the same thing as I have a kiox
same here need to know
Found an interesting post on emtb forum telling also NOT TO PLUG THE CHARGER WHILE THE COUNTDOWN BOSCH 4th GEN - 504 LIMP MODE post!
Just wanted to share some info and insights for Bosch Gen4 motors and tuning kits and the dreaded 504 limp mode code.
We spoke to the Speedbox factory directly about this issue, so here are some insights about Speedbox 3.0 and Limp mode:
Speedbox 3.0 tuning motors experiences limp mode (504) when the count-down is not done correctly for 3-4 times. The count-down is the way Speedbox walks-around the anti-tuning system from Bosch. When you ride the bike, you must leave the count down go to zero on the speedometer.
If you do interrupt the count-down for too many times (3-4 times in a row) then 504 error might pop-up. This 504 is easily fixed:
You have to completely uninstall the Speedbox and ride for 90 minutes with speed limits. The error then disappears.
If Bosch motor has 3 of these 504 errors - you might need to take the motor to the workshop where Bosch mechanic will reset the motor, but this voids the warranty then.
What else interrupts the countdown?
Once the ride is finished, you should wait till the count down stops to zero in order to charge the bike. Charging without waiting for the count down come to zero interrupts the countdown.
Another thing, sometimes when you ride and stop at a stoplight or take a breath - there is no other way just to pedal when the countdown is started, but its ok to interrupt one or two times in a row - its important not to interrupt it 3-4 times in a row.
Just be careful when the countdown starts to let it finish, whether it takes 10 seconds or 5 minutes
Nice, How long does it take to go down to 0 before turning Off on a 750 smart model ?
Hello. It depends how long have you been riding. Let´s say one and half minute.
The sockets on my Haibike Trekking 3.0 with Bosch performance line CX motor look different - there are two smaller sockets with plugs in and one larger one. Question is which of the smaller sockets does the Speedbox plug in to?
Great video! I have a 2015 Haibike Xduro Hardseven with the Bosch Performance Line motor on it. Will this chip work with the older Bosch system? Cheers.
Hello Jim, yes of course. SpeedBox 2.0 for Bosch is fully compatible with your eBike.
I read on the Bosch website that the motors can detect that it's going faster than it should and goes into a low run mode that can only be reset by a Bosch technician with a code. Is that true?
Basically, it's true. However, there are ways how to overcome that. SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch is the way. It's fully compatible with the newest Bosch motors.
@@SpeedBoxTuning so you're basically admitting to tricking the bosch software, then telling people this won't void the warranty. Very nice.
TL:DR Caveat Emptor-it works for some and not others. You may or may not have issues.
I think I have a question that could help all people having performance cx 2020. Will the 2021 85 newton update will be compatible with the speedbox 3? Or will there be a mandatory update on the speedbox 3?
2nd this .. hope it still works with the update ?
I went to one of my bike dealer he told me he does not make the 85newton upgrade because that would break the unrestriction kit... but did not know kit of which brand
do you have to remove the battery during installation?
It's recommended but not necessary.
I have been using the Speedbox 3.0 for Bosch for 6 months now. But must say I am confused and disappointed. Despite setting speed to 9,9 (or 99kph) I am only achieving an extra 5kph on average (and with wind behind me up to 10kph).
Any help, advice or comments would be welcome from other SpeedBox users.
BACKGROUND: My bike is a Canyon GrailON (build 2021) with manual gear shifting. I have followed instructions carefully, reset & repeated them more than once - and talked to SpeedBox Support people a couple of times but no joy. Note that I am a regular sports cyclist, +100km per week, at speeds of 50kph on non-e racing bikes so the pedalling of the rider is not the issue.
Hello. What is the speed limit of your e-bike? 25 km/h? Can you take a test please? Set the Turbo mode and then briefly press "EMTB - Tour - Eco - Tour - EMTB - Turbo" and set the maximum speed to 15 kmh. Then check if the motor stops helping at that speed. Then set a higher maximum speed, for example 45 km/h, and repeat the test. If even this does not help to increase the speed, contact your seller and ask for a replacement. Thanks.
Can you do this without the crank puller? My Speedbox 3 just arrived (Amazon) but now I'm seeing the installation video and it uses the puller. Now I'm finding that Speedbox actually sells it on their website but now I would have to wait awhile for it to arrive.
Why do you have to leave the bike on until it shows 0.0 km/h? What is the reason? What happens if you don't? Saying it is fine but I would like to understand why.
There is an other video explaining it. It is to avoid tuning detection; ruclips.net/video/gkUWGJw_5rI/видео.html
Toatly not illegal
How do I fit this into a haibike atm 5 2021. I have both but can't see to get to the wires in the motor to insert speedbox
Why Speedbox 3.0 for bosch is nor working in my Trek Powerfly 5? Help me please
Santeri do you have a fourth gen moter ?
@@royhoek1590 works with 4th gen right?
@Federico P. i know
Great video! I already got mine installed on my activeline plus last year. Although having watched your video I didn't realise there was a speed setting available. I have the Bosch Purion display same as the video but the activeline plus motor. Does this have the speed setting as cannot get it to flick between speeds apart from Turbo etc. Cannot get it to say 0.3, 0.35, 0.4 etc..
Second half of the video is dedicated to speed limit setting. I'll be happy to help you figure it out, please just contact me on info@speedbox-tuning.com.
@@SpeedBoxTuning Thanks for getting back. Just figured out what it is lol! I have the Speedbox 2
I just bought your speedBox 3 and installed it on my new 2020 Cube Reaction Hybrid EX that has the new software installed (85 NM vs 75NM) Displ : 4.0.0 DU: 1.1.00 Bat : 1.1.0 and I have received 2 ERROR's on the display in the last week. Why is this happening??? Other than that I love your speedBox 3.
your comment is interesting because i was planning to buy the same bike and i went to one of my biker dealer he told me he does not make the 85 newton upgrade because it would likely break the unrestriction kit. do you nevertheless manage to ride with it? despite the errors?
@@artgreg2296 So far the bike still works after you shut it off and start it again but it could be the 3rd time is the charm. I will let you all know if and when I get #3 Error. Also I have heard that if you remove the speedbox 3 and ride the bike for 45 minutes or so that it fixes itself or you run the magnet over the sensor many times it will fix it but that was on older bikes. I will update in the future.
@@AllanNorstrand thanks for the update. Yes please keep us informed because the new cube hybrid reaction 2021 will be 85 newton by default
@@AllanNorstrand any updates?
@@artgreg2296 I got a 3rd error not much later than my last response. After that I pulled the SpeedBox3 and battery then road it for some hours then reinstalled it and now it seems to work somewhat being that I don't get Errors any more but it sometimes cuts out for a few second when i am over 25k then I just push the walk bottom and it takes off again. Another thing I have noticed is the display ( computer) will not shut off after 10 minutes automatically when the SpeedBox3 is installed it counts 1K ever 10 minutes even when the bike is standing still.
This is a report from a user that has the new software installed (85 NM vs 75NM) Displ : 4.0.0 DU: 1.1.00 Bat : 1.1.0 =>
"I got a 3rd error not much later than my last response. After that I pulled the SpeedBox3 and battery then road it for some hours then reinstalled it and now it seems to work somewhat being that I don't get Errors any more but it sometimes cuts out for a few second when i am over 25k then I just push the walk bottom and it takes off again. Another thing I have noticed is the display ( computer) will not shut off after 10 minutes automatically when the SpeedBox3 is installed it counts 1K ever 10 minutes even when the bike is standing still.
Hi. Have the 3.0 speedbox on a Bosch performance. I just realized that I only can enable the tuning via the app. The walk button or the +-+- no longer enable the tuning. Any tips?
I have a Speedbox 2.0 that I just bought and installed although it is not going as fast as i had hoped from the Videos that i saw. My Bike is a little bit faster (It goes 25mph now and did do 20 to start). I installed my Speedbox 2.0 on my 2019 HaiBike XDuro AllMTN 2.0 with the PW-X Motor. I really need this bike to go faster. Is there any way to make my bike faster with new Speedbox 2.0 (programming or something)? And i thought watched something saying that the different power modes during the pedal assist use were adjustable with the Speedbox 2.0? Like the Torque and regen and so on. Is this true? I want to turn the Torque up to maximum, as well as speed and Regen. Is this possible?
I wonder what this tunning does to your motor in the long run.. Yes, it drains the battery much, much quicker, that's obvious. Can the bosh gen 3 handle that sort of extra 'stress' 'assistance' ?
We've been producing SpeedBox products for Bosch motors for seven years now. I mean there is many customers who use our products for seven years. Battery is not being drained so much quicker. Depends on your speed and plenty of other things such as riding mode, terrain, your weight, etc.
The controller set up for this one seems very confusing. I like one where you can just use you phone app to change settings. Wire setup is easy peasy though.
Hi man. Do you know if it will work with the new trek rail 9.8 2021? Because the display .. I mean the visor is diferent. Could you help with this question please? Thanks so much
Hello, yes we confirm compatibility with all the Trek bikes. SpeedBox 3.0 for Bosch is compatible with all the displays - Intuvia, Nyon, Purion, Kiox and Cobi.
How about some tuning instructions for the Bosch Kiox?
Activation/Deactivation of SpeedBox as well as speed limit settings are same for all the types of Bosch displays.
hello it is ok for eride scott 930 for motor bosh cx generation 4 ? where i can buy it ?
Yes, we confirm compatibility. Link is situated in the video description.
I have a Gen4 2020 motor on my E-bike, does anyone has experience with the Bosch Display Intuvia?
cant you just go into manufacturer setting and change the settings.also does this work on wheel motors or is it just crank motors also did you leave your part hooked up and try to find room inside or do you remove it once you put codes in then put back together and once its done does it effect battery i would imagine it drains battery faster thank you
Speed can not be unlocked anywhere in the settings. SpeedBox is compatible with mid drives only. Ebike tuning drains battery a bit faster. However, it is just one of many factors that have impact on discharging of the battery.
Does it work with Kiox display?
Yes, all the SpeedBoxes for Bosch are compatible with Kiox display and all the other displays too (Intuvia, Nyon, Purion, Cobi).
Hi, please advise how to activate - adjust Speed Box 3 with Kiox display! Thank you!
The procedure is same on all the displays. Please follow carefully second half of this installation video.
@@SpeedBoxTuning Thank you! After the sequence Turbo-MTB-Tour-Eco / Eco - Tour - MTB - Turbo double press Walk!
It says that you shouldn’t turn off display before 0kmh or 0Mph with speedbox. What happens if you accidentally do so or if you run out of battery and it shots down? Thank you
This is a good question!
I've read someone on a forum say that if you power down, when you power up again the countdown resumes. Seems to be doing something to fool the stats in the motor. Like sending a signal that the wheel is still turning so the power used was correct etc.
What size crank puller do you use for a haibike?
Generation 4 2020 bosch cx Performance / speedbox 3.0
Ca. 150 km
Error 504 speedlimit
What was your max speed? I have set mine to 30 Km/H. 400 Km no error so far.
Gen 4 Performance 1.0.3.0.
@@tekmekster It's not about the speed limit you set up. That can be way higher. It is about the countdown. If you don't know about the countdown or if you just ignoring it -> 504 going to happen. We recommend to read our written manuals and product descriptions.
SpeedBox Tuning with gen 4 performance cx 2020 and software 1.0.2.0 have any problem with speedbox 3.0?? Thanks
@@SpeedBoxTuning I tried 35 Km/h. 30 just seems to be the ideal speed for my current bike setup.
I read somewhere. If you don´t wait for countdown it will just continue after next start. (since my countdown is very short anyway, i almost dont´t have to deal with it)
tekmekster du you have still problems? Also when you now countdown? This information is very important for me before I by.
Will this chip stop you hitting that wall of resistance when max speed is reached.
Yes, this is exactly what SpeedBox does.
Can you show a Bosh Diagnostic Tool Report on the latest Software? I can't believe that there isn't any detection or error code
Per my last post - What I mean is - when I turn on using top button do I then each time have to go to the walk button to select 6.1 or whatever the Speedbox is set to please - Or does it remember and pick up from the previous mode I. E either normal or speedbox?
Hi. After switching the e-bike off and on, it is necessary to activate the tuning again. The display shows a value of 9.9 kmh or 6.2 mph. But if you set a maximum speed of, for example, 30 mph, it will stay in memory and you won't have to set it again every time 🙂
Will the speed box work on a Bosch performance line ?
Yes, it is fully compatible with Performance line motor.
Do you have bike models where a tuning device doesn't fit inside? I have a Carver Strict E.410 bike and the place inside that powerunit is razor thin! I don't see a device fitting there inside at all.
Hi,
I have a 2023 bosh gen4 ebike (Cube)
And i got the Speedbox 3.0B
This has Rectangular plugs but my bicycle has small round plugs.
How do i convert this?
Hello Emanuel. Looks like you have a Bosch Smart System. Boch calls it 4th generation, in fact it is more like 5th generation. That's why Bosch 3.0 doesn't fit there - it's only up to the 4th generation. Don´t worry, try contacting your dealer for a replacement kit.
Will chip work on Bosch Active Line Plus 2020
Yes, we confirm compatibility.
Well il be finding out in the next week if my warranty void diagnostics report been sent to bosh from local dealer as my motor died
I need to add photo one wire is loose on my will a bike mechanic do this properly for me obviously not bocsh
I've got a COBI smartphone adapter (came with the Bike). Will it work with the smartphone display? If I get the installation wrong is there some sort of assistance from Speed box? I take it more control via the SpeedBox App
Yes, SpeedBox is fully compatible with COBI. You can reach us on many phone numbers that are situated on our website. You can reach us on Facebook, Instagram, email, etc.