I feel like the "depressed annoyance" face fits Astrotrain. He has big dreams (like taking over the Deceptions that one time), but he's been relegated in most media to nothing more than a troop transport.
I guess because of his train mode being a licensed train (I think), they couldn't try too much to make it accurate, instead going for a more "cybertronian/made up" train
Except the train mode is actually exceptionally accurate to a real world locamotive. There's like one or two things off and they're proportional issues. If any mode has a licensing issue it's the Shuttle. Granted NASA isn't hard to partner with, I mean Jesus there's like 80 Lego space sets a year, but it's the only one that would exist for this excuse.
I wouldn’t be mad if the eventual masterpiece is a retool upscale of this figure. Although i do know the actual mp will become a semi contained explosion of panels and good looking but easily chippable paint that shouldn’t be so chippable considering the price point we will get
It’s kinda the same with shockwave. Like the siege is just a smaller masterpiece shockwave with the same transformation apart from the legs. And of course the vehicle mode is off. But they copied the engineering so yea they could do this here
I found this guy at Ross (an overstock store) for $18 USD. He’s probably worth the full leader price, but I am very happy with the price I got him for. I absolutely love the guy; I currently have him displayed with siege Shockwave and Skywarp, and they look amazing together.
Nice! Id say he shouldn't be more than a Voyager, but It's funny how we differ on that. I paid 50 and I say he should have been less, you paid less and say he should be 50.
I'd say I'm jealous you have Astrotrain at the price, but I'm more jealous that you have a Siege Skywarp. Why they made that thing so hard to obtain is beyond me.
I just want to include that the tab on the back of the minimum puts it further forward underneath the hand. I still love this figure, but why did no company oversize it?
That would've been amazing if a third party company did a oversize figure but mainly so that I can do a stopmotion of starscream throwing Megatron out into space 😈
That's what I mean. Where you see the gun in the video is where I wish it rested, not where it does. And I'd have been down for that. I do need a Mass Shifting Blitzwing.
The heel extenders are for putting the tender on his back (via the rocket ports), which is stupid. I usually have him hold it, unfolded (with the side panels sticking up), as a tower shield. Works closed, too, but it looks a bit weird.
I mentioned those guns to my wife and she suggested since he's often a logistics guy, maybe he's taking that arsenal to the front for the heavy troops. Felt really right to me.
I’m like one of the few people who likes the addition of the tender, it just makes Astrotrain’s train mode slightly more accurate to his real life inspiration since that train does have a tender. Also it’s always bugged me that Astrotrain has always transformed into a tender engine that doesn’t have a tender, bit of ocd mixing with my love of trains.
That's fine, I'm not saying it's a bad thing to include, just not something he's known for, and as a result it's not exactly bumping the value like they want it to be.
I adore this figure. I would’ve preferred the brighter colors used on the Classics figure though. This is a rare occasion where I think the extra weapons justifies the price point he was put at, because I can’t see this figure without them. His worst mode has to be his shuttle mode, the back part of it was a major letdown. Can’t wait to see how Legacy Blitzwing will look next to him.
Personally I can't stand the white and orange. I have no problem with the back end. I hope the Legacy Blitzwing is great, it'll have to be to beat the TR version.
I genuinely love this guy. The one problem I have had was the wide wheel on the tinder broke off because one of the pegs that hold it in place sheared off. Please be careful with that.
This guy is more worthy of leader for me than shockwave. The tender that transforms into a launchpad for the rocket legitimately makes so much sense for the character’s alt modes. More than a bunch of nonsensical armor bits that shockwave has. The guns are just a bonus since I’ve always felt like the triple changers, especially astrotrain, were the heavy hitters. Weird that he doesn’t come with his Toy accurate gun at this scale tho.
For me the guns are just too Generic, they could go with any figure and make exactly as much sense. And the Armor bits makes sense for Shockwave. He would absolutely just change his body for more Dakka Dakka. And the Drone you can make is endearing.
Well, considering that the combined form of Siege Astrotrain's weapons is a sorta facsimile of the toy's BFG, the only thing that it lacks is all that purple (something that even Titans Return/LG40 Astrotrain got right with those fugly Sentinel Prime guns). Maybe the Siege Astrotrain weapons were gang molded with other black plastic components? (Ex.: Ultra Magnus's leg guns, etc.)
Huh. I never really realized how much bigger the TR Blitzwing was. As for the size, they are making a Legacy Blitzwing, so that should be in scale with this hopefully.
Great Review as always! Mr.Persepctive can you give me an advice? I've always really wanted to do reviews on RUclips and I've decided if I'm gonna start i wanna start professionally so I found a Turn table, I created a logo but the only thing missing is a light box...the only problem here is the lack of light or just bad lighting so I want to get a light box Can you tell me how big is your light box and where did you get it? Thank you very much in advance!
This is the particular lightbox I use, it's 14 by 16 which isn't big enough for some of the larger figures, which is why I have the bigger one. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07922MDPG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I also recommend you get a ring light, you can find those for about 10 bucks. So I take it you want to make reviews. My advice is to script. Always script. Even though it's boring. Nothing makes people click off a video faster than the person in it sounding like they don't know what to say next. Aside for Audio Quality... Audio Quality is the thing that will make people bail the fastest if it's painful to listen to. Anyways point is that scripting will keep you on task and keep you from sounding like your confused as to what to say next. Hope the channel goes well.
The cab only pokes up over a steam locomotive’s boiler to the extent that the driver can look through the front windows to see everything in front of them only on specific locomotive designs like the 4-4-0 American standard and tank engines like the LB&SCR E2 (the basis for Thomas the Tank Engine) are like that. Other designs like Union Pacific Big Boy 4014 and the Mallard have the roof of the cab be the same level as the top of the boiler. Even the D51, Astrotrain’s G1 basis for his train mode, is more similar to Flying Scotsman in design in terms of the cab over the type seen on Thomas the Tank Engine.
You just threw a bunch of words at me that I don't understand. All I know is that every other representation of him has the cab higher than the boiler.
Having the cab be the same level as the boiler provides less wind resistance. That is part of designing streamlined locomotives like the Mallard. Besides, if Astrotrain would want to build speed in train mode before transforming into shuttle mode like in the show, would it be more beneficial for his cab to be like it is on the Siege toy over what it was in the G1 cartoon for less wind resistance to quickly build up speed before transforming into shuttle mode.
I got this one on sale, and even then, I was so let down by the train mode that I *had* to get Fanstoys Thomas. Plus I like that Thomas is closer to real life in scale in train mode with the cars and trucks and the spaceship is comparable to Sky Lynx.
Man so many of you guys got this on sale I'm jealous. I did not consider the fact when you first said that, that you threw it in with your Chugs. That's one way to justify it. How is the Thomas?
@@PerspectiveEnd It's amazing in its modes, but the transformations are scary. I've watched a couple reviews on it, and one said that the construction wasn't going to break so easily, but it still makes me nervous. Like, the first time I tried transforming it using the directions, my fingers were sweating and it took several hours. There's a section that doesn't want to connect properly, the arms/cab roof and the thruster top/tail fin. Emgo filed down the tabs on his to make it connect better, one other guy brute forced it and somehow it tabbed into the ports, but I'm not there yet. The chest panels are a little scary during transformation, and on mine one of the side rods doesn't want to connect at all. Don't get me wrong, I love this figure cause it's everything I wanted in Astrotrain, but I think it was built too tough. Definitely not a kid's toy.
Honestly this might be one of my favorite figures of the line only because the robot mode looks absolutely amazing I hate the transformations but I love the look of him
I never got this figure but the shuttle and robot mode looks really cool If the front of the train was a but bigger and the paint was correct I would call it a micro masterpiece
What are your thoughts on EctoTron and Gigawatt? Also will Hasbro make a retool of Armada Hotshot because I really want to get my hands on a real Hotshot figure and the only one I own is Bayformers recolor Crosshairs that was supposed to be Tracks with a very bad paint on the face.
I'm not really interested in the Cross over figures for the most part, I don't know what it is but they don't really mean anything to me. I don't know if they will do an armada version, they did the Cybertron one, and they've used the design as a Camanian before so maybe, but I'm not sure at this point.
In the instructions, his caboose thing turns into a rolling platform to lay the shuttle down flat, and it doesn't fit well, thats why the wheels are on the top.
Do you think this version would be good enough to release in the 86 line? All that’s needed is some changes to the colors and where the paint is. The Shuttle jet will obviously not fit multiple figures inside it unfortunately
I'd want the train mode to have a pretty big alteration to it to make it more accurate, so I don't think a flat rerelease or reshell would do the trick.
Well speaking of deception triple changers, now that we have an in hand reveiw of legacy blitzwing from prime vs prime if I remember right, what do you think about it? If you've seen it of course. I'm definitely picking it up
Warning: The tabs on the shuttle/train front end preventing the piece from spinning 360 degrees can break, but it's only a minor problem. Though there will be a bit of white showing on the shuttle mode if you don't cover it up with something.
According to Amazon, I got this guy in October last year, but it feels like I've had this guy longer than that. Anyway, at Voyager price point, this thing amazing. Though, I made a bug dumb, and didn't realize the front of the train mode (the skinny bit) could slide down, until I rewatched The Lazy Eyebrow's review on it.
Yeah, initially I didn't realize that my self, I was super excited when i figured it out because I thought that would make the wheels contact the ground... NOPE!!!
After 3 years I finally found siege astrotrain and I gotta say it's pretty good Robot mode is a 9.5/10 Shuttle is 8/10 And Locomotive mode is a solid: 10/10 I just like how it's just a brick with wheels that roll really well
I would never, ever transform this figure into its alt modes. The train is a wreck - ha... ha? - and the back half of the shuttle is ghastly. That back half is like the result of trying to sculpt the back end of a plane and taking too much wood from the block. Not a buy for me since it would defeat the purpose of having a transforming figure, but I'm happy you like it.
Instead of the train tendon (definitely spelt it wrong) transformering Into a launch platform, I would have rather it transform into something that covered the back part of the shuttle
I think HasTak trying to make the triple changer to be leader class, that's why they added bunch of guna and a box to astro, so it will worth more than Voyagers. I used to complain that this figure is too small for leader, but then i realized this figure is really fun, the accesories cool, and the quality is great. But i always wish his shuttle has better back thou.
The back of the shuttle doesn't bother me, really my problem with the accessories is that they belong equally well with literally any other figure. I don't want stuff that goes with figures other than the one I'm getting personally. Especially when I'm getting charged more for it.
I gotta be honest, I think the train mode is much better than the shuttle mode. The shuttle has such a large front end, immediately followed by a hideous gappy mess. The train might not be accurate, but I honestly think it looks great, especially with the tender. I just love how long it is. The only thing that disappoints me is the small front. If the gaps were filled in on shuttle mode, I think it’d be superior
The Small front is a really big deal to me. Like why does it even have wheels? How are those supposed to make contact with the Track? The Gaps in the Shuttle mode really don't bother me.
Am I the only one who wouldn’t mind commander class astrotrain? So that way he could be to scale to look like the decepticons could fit in him. Granted, this is a very bad idea.
I do kind of get that, but there are so many other characters I want to see first, and if you wanted something to scale to your other figures he'd probably need to be a Titan.
I hope that Hasbro tries to find a way to re release this thing because now that I have Blitzwing I would love to display the two together. Unfortunately I wasn’t fully into collecting when this thing was released, so that sucks.
Can you explain the difference between Siege and earthrise versions of this toy? Which would you buy? I want to pick one up but dont kmow what version to buy. I really wish there were more train transformers. I love Railracer from R.I.D. and there is noway I am dropping like 800 bucks on Raiden.
i think the purpose of the weapons is that since he is the transport, realistically he should have the extra weapons (he can also use it in times of emergency) or since siege astrotrain looks depressed since he cant join battles.. he finally now brings hes own incase he wants to go rouge/just want to go to fight too (either with one weapon&remaining are backupweapons for the team or use them all lol).
You like Psychonauts, a man of taste I see. But imagine if we got a leader Astrotrain that was the scale of the old leaders, how badass would that have been. The figure is perfect as is, but I wanted them to do more.
Of course, you watch me after all, I'd think that would have become clear before now. That could have been pretty cool, but at the same time I am one of those nutters who likes Astrotrain to Masshift.
I lucked out so much with siege astrotrain, my Walmart got a massive drop display of the last wave of siege but it was all on massive clearance, leaders $9, voyagers $7 and deluxes were $5. All while Earthrise was on the shelf at full price.
4:09 Depressed, annoyed does fall in line with him being a troop transport that can't participate in battles due to him using most of his energy to, well, transport the troops.
There is a Gap-Filler part for the arms, but no extended thrusters. but there is a really pointless Fin/Missile Launcher thing that covers the top of the Rocket Ship mode. woooo....
A lot of people are telling me the back end as is really bothers them. I'm fine with it, but I guess there's a reason it exists... Oh Come on there has got to be thurster Extenders, how is it possible that there aren't?
The way I kinda think about the front being skinny is maybe he runs on a specific double rail system that’s only on cybertron where there is one rail inside another and the smaller front is more for the driver to see past it rather than having to be up higher I know it’s a stupid thought but that’s how I justify it and I have this guy (even though I lost the majority of his weapons and looking for the toy accurate gun) but he’s good nonetheless
perspective have you watched Gundam Hathaway if so what did you think? I thought it was ok. also did you see the upgrade pack for Cyclonus, it gave him the head you wanted
I have this figure and my only complaints are the lack of head possibility, the feet pivets don't work for me. And I'm not sure if this was cause I played with it to hard but the lower legs are extremely lose. Luckly they get stuck on the upper legs and the lack of backwards leg movement makes it able to stand just find for me.
My major complaint is that I would of liked the extra train part transform into a thing that at least fills up the bad top end of the shuttle as a option because that thing just looks messy looking
I got my astrotrain for voyager price so I’m very happy with him and honestly he’s worth leader price I love this figure I think it’s great. And also there definitely some toy accurate figures I want or at least some parts from g1 toys such as Optimus with wheels on his legs and jazz with door wings shoulder wheels and shoulder canon. And there’s others 2 but those are the main 2 I love toy accurate versions of Edit: perspective the tender turns into a kinda like a backpack for weapons or energon holder or something in robot mode. Then also turns into a shuttle launch pad in spacecraft mode
It's funny how I got it for leader price, and say it should be voyager price, and you got it for voyager, and say it should be leader. I meant toy accurate versions of Astrotrain. I knew that about the backpack but it's so weak I din't bother mentioning it. As for the Launch pad I did cover that.
@@PerspectiveEnd yea the back pack is pretty weak if I do use it it’s just to hold all the guns in robot mode. Must have missed that launch pad part somehow. Honestly no clue how I missed it :/ An oh yea I don’t like the toy astrotrain although mabye the head would be cool.
My biggest issue with this is that despite being sold at 50$ It doesn't scale with tr blitzwing. I prefer the triple changers to be half a head taller than megatron and the rest of the Gang. I can already see how the upcoming blitzwing will suffer from the same problem
One of better done figures in siege in deed. But I can agree that all those extra weapons where kind of pointless. Heck, if they wanted the number of accesories to fit the price point, why didn't they just gived him a bunch of blast effects? And as for the question of the video.. I know you don't a flying rust of a scrap about japanize transformers. But if I can ask... What are your thought's regarding Trainbots. Aka Raiden aka Autobot train combiner?
I would have preferred a bunch of blast effects yes. I think Raiden is SUPER lame. No particular reason other than the name is doofy, and the trains just don't click with me.
@@PerspectiveEnd aha.. As much as I understand "personal preference". I kinda don't understand how Raiden sound's "doofy". Or at least, not less doffy than "Defensor" or "Menasor"...
The problem with Raiden is that it's not a word. Unlike TF characters from other countries, they never translated his name, so all I can think of when I hear Raiden is the Mortal Kombat Character. As far as I understand it, it's just a normal name, it'd be like an autobot named Steve. Or a Decepticon named Skygarry. Or if blaster was colored blue and called Billy... Those second two are bad examples.
I feel like the "depressed annoyance" face fits Astrotrain. He has big dreams (like taking over the Deceptions that one time), but he's been relegated in most media to nothing more than a troop transport.
To be fair you are right.
Yeah, he is a fantastic figure. Still have issues, ecspecially with the prize point but overall, he is a great figure. Great review.
Please review him
Fellow indonesian collector
Thank you very much, and yes it's quite good inspite of it's price.
I guess because of his train mode being a licensed train (I think), they couldn't try too much to make it accurate, instead going for a more "cybertronian/made up" train
I don't know that there can be licencing issues with like 200 year old trains.
@@PerspectiveEnd Merchandising for model trains comes to mind
Except the train mode is actually exceptionally accurate to a real world locamotive. There's like one or two things off and they're proportional issues.
If any mode has a licensing issue it's the Shuttle. Granted NASA isn't hard to partner with, I mean Jesus there's like 80 Lego space sets a year, but it's the only one that would exist for this excuse.
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv I'm no train person, but I'll take your word for it
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv Even then, Earthrise Sky Lynx is a licensed NASA shuttle, so...
I wouldn’t be mad if the eventual masterpiece is a retool upscale of this figure. Although i do know the actual mp will become a semi contained explosion of panels and good looking but easily chippable paint that shouldn’t be so chippable considering the price point we will get
Oh and the figure will break without you touching it.
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv and not include a stand that is only compatible with the one with black arachnia
It’s kinda the same with shockwave. Like the siege is just a smaller masterpiece shockwave with the same transformation apart from the legs. And of course the vehicle mode is off. But they copied the engineering so yea they could do this here
If they ever get around to it. They haven't made a Jazz yet.
@@PerspectiveEnd well they have, but it's a different Jazz.
I found this guy at Ross (an overstock store) for $18 USD. He’s probably worth the full leader price, but I am very happy with the price I got him for. I absolutely love the guy; I currently have him displayed with siege Shockwave and Skywarp, and they look amazing together.
didn't have to flex that skywarp on us
I am very tempted to get Astrotrain now because we both have Shockwave and Skywarp
Nice! Id say he shouldn't be more than a Voyager, but It's funny how we differ on that. I paid 50 and I say he should have been less, you paid less and say he should be 50.
@@PerspectiveEnd lol
I'd say I'm jealous you have Astrotrain at the price, but I'm more jealous that you have a Siege Skywarp. Why they made that thing so hard to obtain is beyond me.
I had astrotrain a few months ago and he still is on of my favorite transformer and I LOVE his train mode.
Glad you can enjoy that part. I wish I did. You say had, did you mean Get? Or did you lose it or something?
@@PerspectiveEnd No, I still have it, just goofed on that comet.
I just want to include that the tab on the back of the minimum puts it further forward underneath the hand. I still love this figure, but why did no company oversize it?
That would've been amazing if a third party company did a oversize figure but mainly so that I can do a stopmotion of starscream throwing Megatron out into space 😈
That's what I mean. Where you see the gun in the video is where I wish it rested, not where it does.
And I'd have been down for that. I do need a Mass Shifting Blitzwing.
Like Jazz, I wish Astrotrain was brought into more things. Figure is cool too. 💜
I think Jazz is a pretty staple fixture of the Transformers.
He was recently brought back in Season 3 of Transformers: Cyberverse
I've always wanted this guy. Saw it in a walmart once and my dad let me get 2 leaders but he insisted that it was prime and magnus.
Like Siege Prime? He was a voyager? I mean I can see why your dad would decide that.
@@PerspectiveEnd no. Earthrise prime. He got me earthrise prime and ultra magnus.
@@losisansgaming2628 Should have kept an eye out at Ross. He was $17.99!!!
@@napalmdex440 year late but what is that?
@@losisansgaming2628 I'm guessing your not in the US then. Ross I a discount clothing store in the US. Owned by T.K Maxx if you know what that is.
I just realised that since astrotrain can fit a majority of the decepticons in him (just keep pushing) that he could store *SOOO MANY FRIES*
I missed this.
Ahh. You bait and switched me... Good job.
Perspective, since you love Siege Prime so much, will you ever be doing a review on him so we can find out why?
I did do the oversize knock off, but I might get around to that at some point. I do plan on covering all of the WFC I didn't yet.
The heel extenders are for putting the tender on his back (via the rocket ports), which is stupid. I usually have him hold it, unfolded (with the side panels sticking up), as a tower shield. Works closed, too, but it looks a bit weird.
So what I'm hearing is there's really not much of use for it.
It's nice to see him get a full review by you. Thanks perspective
Happy to do it.
clever thumbnail with the wings
Thank you. It's a trick I've used before.
I mentioned those guns to my wife and she suggested since he's often a logistics guy, maybe he's taking that arsenal to the front for the heavy troops. Felt really right to me.
That's a good viewpoint. Your wife is a Smart lady.
i love the siege shockwave without all the extra bs it has. i also have both shockwave and this. you should also review the siege seeker mold
Don't worry I plan to at some point. I want to cover the whole WFC eventually.
@@PerspectiveEnd I would like that
I’m like one of the few people who likes the addition of the tender, it just makes Astrotrain’s train mode slightly more accurate to his real life inspiration since that train does have a tender. Also it’s always bugged me that Astrotrain has always transformed into a tender engine that doesn’t have a tender, bit of ocd mixing with my love of trains.
That's fine, I'm not saying it's a bad thing to include, just not something he's known for, and as a result it's not exactly bumping the value like they want it to be.
7:57 I can trigger you with 6 words, and I quote," its because he's a space train"
How dare?
If optimus prime is hand candy, then this figure is hand steak. (Also I love the fact that he has flip flops that can be detached from the tender)
You just gave me a good laugh.
I adore this figure. I would’ve preferred the brighter colors used on the Classics figure though. This is a rare occasion where I think the extra weapons justifies the price point he was put at, because I can’t see this figure without them. His worst mode has to be his shuttle mode, the back part of it was a major letdown. Can’t wait to see how Legacy Blitzwing will look next to him.
Personally I can't stand the white and orange.
I have no problem with the back end.
I hope the Legacy Blitzwing is great, it'll have to be to beat the TR version.
Beating the TR version will be easy. I have no idea why so many people like it, the figure is complete crap.
I genuinely love this guy. The one problem I have had was the wide wheel on the tinder broke off because one of the pegs that hold it in place sheared off. Please be careful with that.
Huh. I never considered that as a possibility. Thanks for the tip.
This guy is more worthy of leader for me than shockwave. The tender that transforms into a launchpad for the rocket legitimately makes so much sense for the character’s alt modes. More than a bunch of nonsensical armor bits that shockwave has. The guns are just a bonus since I’ve always felt like the triple changers, especially astrotrain, were the heavy hitters. Weird that he doesn’t come with his Toy accurate gun at this scale tho.
For me the guns are just too Generic, they could go with any figure and make exactly as much sense.
And the Armor bits makes sense for Shockwave. He would absolutely just change his body for more Dakka Dakka. And the Drone you can make is endearing.
Well, considering that the combined form of Siege Astrotrain's weapons is a sorta facsimile of the toy's BFG, the only thing that it lacks is all that purple (something that even Titans Return/LG40 Astrotrain got right with those fugly Sentinel Prime guns). Maybe the Siege Astrotrain weapons were gang molded with other black plastic components? (Ex.: Ultra Magnus's leg guns, etc.)
From now on I think most decepticon triple changers will be leaders, it seems legacy is continuing this trend with blitzwing
Makes some sense, they did tend to be bigger guys, and they are complex.
As pointed out by the Lazy eyebrow reviewer I wish it was as tall as the Titan's Return Voyagers so you could have them standing together
Huh. I never really realized how much bigger the TR Blitzwing was.
As for the size, they are making a Legacy Blitzwing, so that should be in scale with this hopefully.
Great Review as always!
Mr.Persepctive can you give me an advice? I've always really wanted to do reviews on RUclips and I've decided if I'm gonna start i wanna start professionally so I found a Turn table, I created a logo but the only thing missing is a light box...the only problem here is the lack of light or just bad lighting so I want to get a light box
Can you tell me how big is your light box and where did you get it? Thank you very much in advance!
This is the particular lightbox I use, it's 14 by 16 which isn't big enough for some of the larger figures, which is why I have the bigger one.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07922MDPG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also recommend you get a ring light, you can find those for about 10 bucks.
So I take it you want to make reviews.
My advice is to script. Always script. Even though it's boring. Nothing makes people click off a video faster than the person in it sounding like they don't know what to say next.
Aside for Audio Quality... Audio Quality is the thing that will make people bail the fastest if it's painful to listen to.
Anyways point is that scripting will keep you on task and keep you from sounding like your confused as to what to say next.
Hope the channel goes well.
Hey georgethebot just subscribed to you to help you on your journey through RUclips so hope it goes well
@@harveytodd4309 Aww thank you!
Hasbro knew we wanted cartoon. They want you to buy it over and over until they finally give you what you want.
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that they've never given us the perfect version because then we wouldn't need a new one.
All of those weapons Astrotrain has combine into his big ionic displacer gun.
Indeed they do, which isn't exactly something he's known for.
The cab only pokes up over a steam locomotive’s boiler to the extent that the driver can look through the front windows to see everything in front of them only on specific locomotive designs like the 4-4-0 American standard and tank engines like the LB&SCR E2 (the basis for Thomas the Tank Engine) are like that. Other designs like Union Pacific Big Boy 4014 and the Mallard have the roof of the cab be the same level as the top of the boiler. Even the D51, Astrotrain’s G1 basis for his train mode, is more similar to Flying Scotsman in design in terms of the cab over the type seen on Thomas the Tank Engine.
You just threw a bunch of words at me that I don't understand. All I know is that every other representation of him has the cab higher than the boiler.
Having the cab be the same level as the boiler provides less wind resistance. That is part of designing streamlined locomotives like the Mallard. Besides, if Astrotrain would want to build speed in train mode before transforming into shuttle mode like in the show, would it be more beneficial for his cab to be like it is on the Siege toy over what it was in the G1 cartoon for less wind resistance to quickly build up speed before transforming into shuttle mode.
I got this one on sale, and even then, I was so let down by the train mode that I *had* to get Fanstoys Thomas. Plus I like that Thomas is closer to real life in scale in train mode with the cars and trucks and the spaceship is comparable to Sky Lynx.
Man so many of you guys got this on sale I'm jealous.
I did not consider the fact when you first said that, that you threw it in with your Chugs. That's one way to justify it. How is the Thomas?
@@PerspectiveEnd It's amazing in its modes, but the transformations are scary. I've watched a couple reviews on it, and one said that the construction wasn't going to break so easily, but it still makes me nervous. Like, the first time I tried transforming it using the directions, my fingers were sweating and it took several hours. There's a section that doesn't want to connect properly, the arms/cab roof and the thruster top/tail fin. Emgo filed down the tabs on his to make it connect better, one other guy brute forced it and somehow it tabbed into the ports, but I'm not there yet. The chest panels are a little scary during transformation, and on mine one of the side rods doesn't want to connect at all. Don't get me wrong, I love this figure cause it's everything I wanted in Astrotrain, but I think it was built too tough. Definitely not a kid's toy.
7:39 without context that sounds wrong-
Stick that on a T-sirt.
@@PerspectiveEnd hmmm
Honestly this might be one of my favorite figures of the line only because the robot mode looks absolutely amazing I hate the transformations but I love the look of him
The change in tone at 1:57 is amazing.
I'm glad you liked the joke.
"I don't think I'd buy Titans return Blitzwing at leader Price point"
Upcoming Legacy Leader Blitzwing *Sweats*
Hopefully it will be great. It will have to be to be better than the TR Blitzwing.
Yeah
I never got this figure but the shuttle and robot mode looks really cool
If the front of the train was a but bigger and the paint was correct
I would call it a micro masterpiece
I would agree to calling it a Micro masterpiece at that point my self.
Astrotrain has that depressed and annoyed look because his train mode sucks.
You have a point there.
What are your thoughts on EctoTron and Gigawatt? Also will Hasbro make a retool of Armada Hotshot because I really want to get my hands on a real Hotshot figure and the only one I own is Bayformers recolor Crosshairs that was supposed to be Tracks with a very bad paint on the face.
I'm not really interested in the Cross over figures for the most part, I don't know what it is but they don't really mean anything to me.
I don't know if they will do an armada version, they did the Cybertron one, and they've used the design as a Camanian before so maybe, but I'm not sure at this point.
I thought the tiny fin and the waffled cobbled back of the shuttle mode would be a point of nitpicking.
No. That really doesn't bother me. It looks pretty much how it's supposed to, and the transformation is cleaver.
In the instructions, his caboose thing turns into a rolling platform to lay the shuttle down flat, and it doesn't fit well, thats why the wheels are on the top.
That's weird, and I wonder just how many people have actually used that.
The thrusters look like one of those ancient electric shavers lol 🤣
Yeah. You are right. They really needed to be better.
This was literally my first leader class figure and i got him on sale for $30 and he made me want to buy more figures
Nice! That's a Sweet Deal right there. You got him for that voyager price.
Do you think this version would be good enough to release in the 86 line? All that’s needed is some changes to the colors and where the paint is. The Shuttle jet will obviously not fit multiple figures inside it unfortunately
I'd want the train mode to have a pretty big alteration to it to make it more accurate, so I don't think a flat rerelease or reshell would do the trick.
Well speaking of deception triple changers, now that we have an in hand reveiw of legacy blitzwing from prime vs prime if I remember right, what do you think about it? If you've seen it of course. I'm definitely picking it up
I'll make a video on the reveals in the next few weeks.
Have you seen that MMC Rung is set to release around the first week of October! I'm super excited for him!
I didn't know that was so close. Awesome.
Warning: The tabs on the shuttle/train front end preventing the piece from spinning 360 degrees can break, but it's only a minor problem. Though there will be a bit of white showing on the shuttle mode if you don't cover it up with something.
Thanks for the tip.
According to Amazon, I got this guy in October last year, but it feels like I've had this guy longer than that. Anyway, at Voyager price point, this thing amazing. Though, I made a bug dumb, and didn't realize the front of the train mode (the skinny bit) could slide down, until I rewatched The Lazy Eyebrow's review on it.
Yeah, initially I didn't realize that my self, I was super excited when i figured it out because I thought that would make the wheels contact the ground... NOPE!!!
@@PerspectiveEnd actually, if you pull them down enough they will touch it
After 3 years I finally found siege astrotrain and I gotta say it's pretty good
Robot mode is a 9.5/10
Shuttle is 8/10
And Locomotive mode is a solid: 10/10 I just like how it's just a brick with wheels that roll really well
It is pretty good, though I will say you are crazy, or... Loco. That Locomotive mode is terrible.
The tender should have partsform into the backpart of the shuttle to fill in.
The back end of the shuttle doesn't bother me, but I do think that would have been better cause it would have given the tender something to do.
I would never, ever transform this figure into its alt modes. The train is a wreck - ha... ha? - and the back half of the shuttle is ghastly. That back half is like the result of trying to sculpt the back end of a plane and taking too much wood from the block. Not a buy for me since it would defeat the purpose of having a transforming figure, but I'm happy you like it.
Instead of the train tendon (definitely spelt it wrong) transformering Into a launch platform, I would have rather it transform into something that covered the back part of the shuttle
@@serina3872 That would have definitely been an improvement. (I think it's tender)
I agree about the Train Wreck, but the back of the Shuttle doesn't even begin to bother me.
@@PerspectiveEnd Yeah, agree to disagree, but for sure agree on the bot mode. 👍🏼
this is one of my favorite figures I love it so much! 😃
It is great.
I think HasTak trying to make the triple changer to be leader class, that's why they added bunch of guna and a box to astro, so it will worth more than Voyagers. I used to complain that this figure is too small for leader, but then i realized this figure is really fun, the accesories cool, and the quality is great. But i always wish his shuttle has better back thou.
The back of the shuttle doesn't bother me, really my problem with the accessories is that they belong equally well with literally any other figure.
I don't want stuff that goes with figures other than the one I'm getting personally. Especially when I'm getting charged more for it.
It’s not because he’s a space train…it’s because he’s an Astrotrain
What was that in Reference to? It's been like 2 years since I made this video.
@@PerspectiveEnd you saying bot to call him a space train, since it mostly just looks like a purple brick
*not
Oh yeah. Sorry to ruin you joke with not remembering the set up.
@@PerspectiveEnd it's fine, I keep forgetting you like to reply to comments
You know, it's funny... I like the train mode the most lmao
I may not understand why, but that's ok. Like what you like.
Hi perspective, will you do a siege starscream Review? I want to know your opinion on that mold
Eventually yes.
Speaking of him, I hope we get an update of Blitzwing.
There is going to be one. The Legacy line is supposed to have one.
And we now know next year we will see it retooled into galaxy shuttle from victory, and i definitly will buy that
I suppose we do yes.
I gotta be honest, I think the train mode is much better than the shuttle mode. The shuttle has such a large front end, immediately followed by a hideous gappy mess. The train might not be accurate, but I honestly think it looks great, especially with the tender. I just love how long it is. The only thing that disappoints me is the small front.
If the gaps were filled in on shuttle mode, I think it’d be superior
The Small front is a really big deal to me. Like why does it even have wheels? How are those supposed to make contact with the Track?
The Gaps in the Shuttle mode really don't bother me.
Am I the only one who wouldn’t mind commander class astrotrain? So that way he could be to scale to look like the decepticons could fit in him. Granted, this is a very bad idea.
I do kind of get that, but there are so many other characters I want to see first, and if you wanted something to scale to your other figures he'd probably need to be a Titan.
I hope that Hasbro tries to find a way to re release this thing because now that I have Blitzwing I would love to display the two together. Unfortunately I wasn’t fully into collecting when this thing was released, so that sucks.
Yeah, I get that, like I wound up missing out on Missfire because of not being fully back at the time.
Can you explain the difference between Siege and earthrise versions of this toy? Which would you buy? I want to pick one up but dont kmow what version to buy. I really wish there were more train transformers. I love Railracer from R.I.D. and there is noway I am dropping like 800 bucks on Raiden.
The Boxes. That's really it. The boxes are Different. Otherwise these are unchanged.
He's heavier than his Titans Return toy so that's cool.
My biggest beef with his steam engine mode is that it's wider than it is tall
That's a reason as valid as any.
@@PerspectiveEnd I've been to museums to see steam locomotives and they're like 10 feet wide 14 feet tall.
i think the purpose of the weapons is that since he is the transport, realistically he should have the extra weapons (he can also use it in times of emergency) or since siege astrotrain looks depressed since he cant join battles.. he finally now brings hes own incase he wants to go rouge/just want to go to fight too (either with one weapon&remaining are backupweapons for the team or use them all lol).
They just feel so Generic is my problem. Like something that could have gone with any figure.
@@PerspectiveEnd yeah i agree.. for a collector for sure it can a problem.
I have to say of all the leader add on components, astrotrains carriage has to be the one I care for the least
Yeah, it's pretty much a bunch of Generic accessories that could go with literally anyone.
You like Psychonauts, a man of taste I see.
But imagine if we got a leader Astrotrain that was the scale of the old leaders, how badass would that have been. The figure is perfect as is, but I wanted them to do more.
Of course, you watch me after all, I'd think that would have become clear before now.
That could have been pretty cool, but at the same time I am one of those nutters who likes Astrotrain to Masshift.
ngl, totally forgot about astrotrain’s existence; glad he’s a good figure tho
Man, now I know why he has that Depressed and Annoyed expression.
T r a i n
Indeed.
@@PerspectiveEnd p l a n e
I lucked out so much with siege astrotrain, my Walmart got a massive drop display of the last wave of siege but it was all on massive clearance, leaders $9, voyagers $7 and deluxes were $5. All while Earthrise was on the shelf at full price.
I have NEVER EVER in my life seen clearances that good. That's AWESOME!
@@PerspectiveEnd micromasters on the shelf were $3 and battlemasters were $1. I bought all battlemasters for the blast effects lol
Yep. I found him on sale. I was pleased. I didn't notice the small train tip. Bummer. I keep him in the robot mode anyway.
Man it seems like everyone on Earth got Astrotrain on sale except for me.
Just found your channel and subscribed! Your very charismatic!
Thank you very much, glad to hear that you are enjoying what I do here, hope to keep you laughing for a long time to come.
Can't wait for legacy blitzwing!
I hope it's good. It'll have to be to bet the TR.
Thanks for the birthday present
Happy to accidentally give it to you.
Mp-52 Starscream has no way swivel
I've heard this. Amazing how Takara can't be bothered to include such an important joint.
4:09
Depressed, annoyed does fall in line with him being a troop transport that can't participate in battles due to him using most of his energy to, well, transport the troops.
That does kind of make sense. Wish I'd thought of that.
@@PerspectiveEnd I like to think that someone at Hasbro knew that and wanted to give the guy a break by giving him a bunch of weapons.
One of my favorite siege figure's
A very fun lad.
There is a Gap-Filler part for the arms, but no extended thrusters. but there is a really pointless Fin/Missile Launcher thing that covers the top of the Rocket Ship mode. woooo....
A lot of people are telling me the back end as is really bothers them. I'm fine with it, but I guess there's a reason it exists...
Oh Come on there has got to be thurster Extenders, how is it possible that there aren't?
You can throw any smaller figures into his weird little box and have it close shut just fine.
So it's like he's a Transport like in the show.
@@PerspectiveEnd Ehh I was thinking more like he’s kidnapping someone.
I am considering adding this to my collection come payday.
It's worth it if you can find it for a reasonable price.
Far far and awaaaaay
Great video!🥶🤑😎👍
Say what?
Thank you.
Idea: They should make a transformers and Thomas the train crossover by painting this Astrotrain Thomas colors
More like Gordon's colours
@@Kuriboh1008 well their colors are similar
@@younglinc9950 true
I don't know if that would work cause this isn't exactly a very good train as is.
@@PerspectiveEnd And astrotrain is not a tank engine
The way I kinda think about the front being skinny is maybe he runs on a specific double rail system that’s only on cybertron where there is one rail inside another and the smaller front is more for the driver to see past it rather than having to be up higher I know it’s a stupid thought but that’s how I justify it and I have this guy (even though I lost the majority of his weapons and looking for the toy accurate gun) but he’s good nonetheless
Even if you can convince your self of that, which I can't, it's still not what he's supposed to look like.
The return of the king (a.)
(a.)?
And thank you.
@@PerspectiveEnd very yes
I got this when it came out and i think its great i just love it
I had to buy it through the Hasbro pulse cause I couldn't find it.
The expression is known to transformers fans as "dull suprize"
5 seconds in, I’m already laughing.
Man I'm good.
perspective have you watched Gundam Hathaway if so what did you think? I thought it was ok. also did you see the upgrade pack for Cyclonus, it gave him the head you wanted
Never even heard of it honestly. And yes I've seen the upgrade, I'm so tempted to buy that, but I'm trying to spend less cash.
I have this figure and my only complaints are the lack of head possibility, the feet pivets don't work for me. And I'm not sure if this was cause I played with it to hard but the lower legs are extremely lose. Luckly they get stuck on the upper legs and the lack of backwards leg movement makes it able to stand just find for me.
The head is weirdly restricted when there's nothing really causing it to be immobile.
Sorry to hear yours isn't operating at 100%.
Great review mate!
Thank you very much.
My major complaint is that I would of liked the extra train part transform into a thing that at least fills up the bad top end of the shuttle as a option because that thing just looks messy looking
I agree. This guy seems to analyse these figures for the smallest inaccuracies yet completely looked over the shit end of the shuttle
It doesn't bother me, but I do think that would have give the tender something to do.
This is very good I might get it but man that box train
Yeah it's doofy.
I really hope him or Shockwave don’t become scalpled in a few months I really want these guys
They've been out for a very long time now?
Ooh, I think I found my deception for my diorama :D
Looking Forward to the new Blitzwing!
Hopefully it will be great, it will have to be to beat the TR.
My first siege transformer was this and siege starscream was my brothers
I think you got the better deal on this one. The Seige Scream is great, but this is better.
Can't wait for the legacy blitzwing
I hope it's really good. It'll have to be to beat the TR.
@@PerspectiveEnd wonder what the extra accessories will be. . .
I want siege Shockwave so badly, he would destroy my cyberverse warrior class. I'd pay Voyager without the accessories.
He is a very solid figure, hope you can find one.
I got my astrotrain for voyager price so I’m very happy with him and honestly he’s worth leader price I love this figure I think it’s great.
And also there definitely some toy accurate figures I want or at least some parts from g1 toys such as Optimus with wheels on his legs and jazz with door wings shoulder wheels and shoulder canon. And there’s others 2 but those are the main 2 I love toy accurate versions of
Edit: perspective the tender turns into a kinda like a backpack for weapons or energon holder or something in robot mode. Then also turns into a shuttle launch pad in spacecraft mode
It's funny how I got it for leader price, and say it should be voyager price, and you got it for voyager, and say it should be leader.
I meant toy accurate versions of Astrotrain.
I knew that about the backpack but it's so weak I din't bother mentioning it. As for the Launch pad I did cover that.
@@PerspectiveEnd yea the back pack is pretty weak if I do use it it’s just to hold all the guns in robot mode.
Must have missed that launch pad part somehow. Honestly no clue how I missed it :/
An oh yea I don’t like the toy astrotrain although mabye the head would be cool.
My biggest issue with this is that despite being sold at 50$ It doesn't scale with tr blitzwing. I prefer the triple changers to be half a head taller than megatron and the rest of the Gang. I can already see how the upcoming blitzwing will suffer from the same problem
Who knows. I don't think they were supposed to be that much bigger than Megatron, so there's a good chance it won't hapen.
they use the g1 toys first so that u can only have that option
then they make the cartoon version so now you buy two of each figure
What option?
PerspectiveEnd the option of only having the toy version or inaccurate version of a mold
They make the better one later so that you'll buy both
7:58 It’s because he’s a space train 😂🤣😂🤣
How dare you?
@@PerspectiveEnd yes I know I’m evil 😈
One of better done figures in siege in deed.
But I can agree that all those extra weapons where kind of pointless.
Heck, if they wanted the number of accesories to fit the price point, why didn't they just gived him a bunch of blast effects?
And as for the question of the video..
I know you don't a flying rust of a scrap about japanize transformers.
But if I can ask...
What are your thought's regarding Trainbots. Aka Raiden aka Autobot train combiner?
I would have preferred a bunch of blast effects yes.
I think Raiden is SUPER lame. No particular reason other than the name is doofy, and the trains just don't click with me.
@@PerspectiveEnd aha..
As much as I understand "personal preference". I kinda don't understand how Raiden sound's "doofy".
Or at least, not less doffy than "Defensor" or "Menasor"...
The problem with Raiden is that it's not a word. Unlike TF characters from other countries, they never translated his name, so all I can think of when I hear Raiden is the Mortal Kombat Character.
As far as I understand it, it's just a normal name, it'd be like an autobot named Steve. Or a Decepticon named Skygarry. Or if blaster was colored blue and called Billy...
Those second two are bad examples.
Top 10 "Micro-Masterpiece" countdown in the future?
Quite possibly, but I don't know if I've called 10 figures Micro Masterpieces yet.
@@PerspectiveEnd or top 5 and 5 “close calls”