Dave Smith SOUNDS OFF: Trump MELTDOWN, RFK Jr, Libertarian Nomination
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Krystal and Saagar are joined by Dave Smith to discuss the chaos at the Libertarian Convention with Trump and RFK Jr.
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It makes me sad going back and watching Ron Paul in those GOP debates from years ago. He was absolutely SPOT ON about the Global War on Terror, and how that was going to continue to unfold. It literally cemented a never-ending and unwinnable military conflict. Wastes trillions of dollars on the backs of the American Taxpayers, and costs millions of lives to be lost unnecessarily.
That’s why the media pretended like he wasn’t running. Only Jon Stewart stood up for him.
Ron was right on.
Absolutely!!
And everyone said he was crazy and wacky. Similar to RFK.
And that's why I'm a Dave Smith Libertarian 😎
The people have spoken and they want more DAVE SMITH on BP!
Yes and Yes and more yes and Bonus Yes
They'd be smart to swing an influencer on the show
Depends on who he replaces.
✊
@@ConernicusRexRyan
Who the hell is Chase Oliver? And why does the Libertarian party keep nominating these no names?
The Reason magazine, Robbie Suave wing of the party.
Because they aren't establishment handpicked candidates. They're freedom-minded members of the LP.
I have been an active libertarian for well over a decade following lots of libertarian shows, podcasts, newsletters, websites, organizations etc. Been to libertarian conferences and other events on multiple continents. And I had never heard of this guy until now. Same with Jo Jorgenson.
@@Dennis-xj8nh that's funny. He came to EVERY state convention. He came to my state's last 2 conventions.
@@Dennis-xj8nh he literally went to every state LP convention...
Thank you for giving the Libertarian party a voice on your channel. It is very much appreciated.
Saagar is a regular host. Not just for today.
@@olorin1710 lol
This whole ordeal has shown the "libertarian party" to be a joke. People who can just joke around on the side about how they think things should be, even though they make no sense and have no platform and are just like a group of people who get together once a year to party.
@@asif9t9 Yeah, that was very embarrassing as an audience. I can understand they were upset that the Lib Party leaders invited JFK, Trump, etc. but to dismiss what he said outright was very immature.
@@asif9t9you're half right. I guarantee most libertarians are more willing to read philosophical works on their ideology. They are much more involved, and are much more passionate about their principles than any talking head who might represent nothing but the frustrations of whichever side they align with. I think the party should dedicate their resources to state and local elections, and lobbying and education on the federal level. It's played it's course, and they can do much better at growing organically than whatever the fuck they're trying to do.
I am not a Libertarian, but it is good to have a political party that tries to listen to different people.
Using a butt plug. Jk
living meme dave smith, the only aesthetically sane looking person in the libertarian camp. the purple unicorn himself!
Neanderthal!
Love Dave Smith! Don’t always agree w/ him, although I often do, but he is ALWAYS fair and conveys his perspective with information that is true and easy to intellectually digest.
The libertarian party became a joke by nominating Chase. 🤢
It's always been a joke from a hard power perspective, but at least us quasitarians get the change to laugh along.
The same can be said about the legacy parties regarding Trump and Biden.
It was Dave Smith’s to take 🤷🏻♂️
YUP
@archstanton3931 Agreed, but the LOLbert will do everything the promise. That package to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan would of never happen.
need more Dave Smith!
I realize how controversial this sounds, but wouldn't the net positive of breaking the two party system with electing Kennedy overshadow his unfortunate stance on Israel'? If there's no viable candidate that will end these war crimes, shouldn't we at least choose the option that at least breaks this corrupt duopoly? Not to mention all the other positive America first policies, unraveling corrupt agencies, and other sound policies Kennedy supports, which I think are also being overlooked (understandably so) by the topic Israel.
💯 yes yes yes yes
Trump will call Putin and that will end the Russia Ukraine war in less than an hour.
Trump will call Bibi and also end the Israel Palestine War.
And he'll smooth out what's going on in Southeast Asia with China, Taiwan and the other countries in the region including North Korea.
Yeah I am with this position. I hate his Israel stance and would fight him tooth and nail on it but there is so much more he does right and that far outweighs it.
But I also think what Smith was saying is that Kennedy gave up the political card he needed to actually win. Without it he just won’t separate himself enough to overcome a rigged system.
@@gpcovenantif you listen to him on Tim pool he’s making a lot of sense. No other big boy country would allow 2,000 rockets to be shot at them a year. The libertarians (who I supported before this weekend) hand wave that fact away
Trump will make a call to Putin and end the Russia Ukraine war in less than an hour.
Trump will call Bibi and end the Israel Palestine war.
Trump will cool down what's going on in Southeast Asia.
I love that Trump went to try and earn their vote, started making fun of them when they started booing him, and then said after wards he was never trying to seek the Libertarian nomination anyways.
Hey, at least he tried. Which beats what’s sure to be hide in the basement round two and talk to nobody because you have nothing to offer but more war.
Clearly he wasn’t, just appealing to libertarian viewers who will be voting in 2024
You’re a thick, thick person if you believe he was literally seeking the LP nomination.
He still picked up a lot of their voters.
As if trump is anti war@@HappinessDIY
Thank you guys for letting the libertarians get air time. I'd love to hear from the greens as well.
YES!!
We need to roll back the state
If you want to know who America’s next enemy is, look at who we’re funding right now.
Really.. But how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂
@@kevinpowers2959really.. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Gangsta1168keep commenting and patronizing people :) I'm sure you'll get your message across one of these decades, baby boi ❤❤
@@kevinpowers2959 "We need to roll back the state but I keep voting for it."
Every single one of these problems is due to government being too big
While I do hate the fact that the 3 major candidates all support the Israel war, I still align way more with most of RFK's other policies than any of the other candidates.
listen to Kennedy's podcast path to peace, episode1&2. You will hear his nuanced views and sincere intention to get to true solutions. Add to that the fact that he wants to bring troops home and close many of the American bases in the world: he's by far the best candidate, also on the Isr/Pal issue!
RFK is the worst on Israel out of the three of them though, by a significant margin (which is difficult to imagine, but is somehow the case)
Thrilled to see interaction with voters who arent part of the duopoly.
Yea. Ppl are missing this entirely. DJT walked across the aisle… not in normal terms… he walked past the Dems and out of the building to speak with and court people that don’t really matter (re: politics) in the big picture
@@destroytheboxes Oh he had no idea what he was getting into. Doesn't mean I'm not happy to see him try. Glad the Libertarians had a chance to tell an elected official exactly what they thought of his record. Biden would have received the same response, as would have most of Congress.
@@destroytheboxes He walked across the aisle, and they told him to walk back. Just like before - I supported Trump talking with Putin and Kim, but nothing came of it, so what was the point?
So you didn't know all VOTERS are birds of the same rock?? 💯💯😂😂😂
@@christophermanley3602 this is true.
yeah RFK sucks on Israel but he still has my vote. The bar is so fucking low
RFK is a no brained for me. But then Israel is about 15th on my list.
@@annaandjujuis Palestine higher on your list
listen to Kennedy's podcast path to peace, episode1&2. You will hear his nuanced views and sincere intention to get to true solutions. Add to that the fact that he wants to bring troops home and close many of the American bases in the world: he's by far the best candidate, also on the Isr/Pal issue!
@kirkham111 nuance must be a 4-letter word in your book
@@darylhenry9595 hating On a country for defending itself and siding with the perpetrators speaks volumes about the kind of people you are
Yes, I think RFK Jr.'s stance on Israel/Palestine is bad, and that the quote from him is indeed ridiculous. But, unfortunately, it's also the status quo, and Trump/Biden are no better on this issue. However, I think RFK Jr. is substantially better than those two on a lot of other issues, and he's a serious contender to fight against the Democrats and Republicans. I also want the duopoly to have opposition, so that we can actually get real change in the rigged political system. I know I can't have a perfect candidate, but RFK Jr. is way better than the nonsense that the Democratic and Republic machines always churn out.
Hear! Hear!
I feel the same. And I think with RFK Jr he would actually try to somehow help diplomatically solve the Israel Gaza deal if that's even possible. And I'm probably dreaming, but I would hope if he won his stance would change. Either way we are still good ways from the election and who knows where Israel Gaza will be by then. As of now RFK has zero power to change any of it either way, but we know for sure Biden and Trump have no policy stances at all on anything. They literally have no solutions for anything.
Couldn’t agree more. Bobby isn’t perfect, but he’s so much better than trump and Biden.
I like RFK Jr. Unfortunately I was put off when he blamed Trump for closing down states. Trump left it up to the states. I didn't like the lie.
@@kimberleywarren8679 Understood. I know Trump told a ton of lies about RFK Jr also about his border policy and a slew of other things in one of his recent rants. Politics are so ugly.
He says the debt is probably the single largest concern for him, yet he says he can't vote for RFK because of his view on Israel. But RFK is the only candidate talking about the debt. How does this even make sense? If you want to disagree with RFK on Israel, fine, but to say that is THE issue of this election is so crazy when there are literally so many other domestic issues that RFK is incredible on. Also, if you cut funding to Israel, then what? Does it make them stop? Do we start a war with Israel? What's the end game?
Maybe he dont like murdering babies after they're born.
And RFK’s stance on gun laws makes him a non starter for anyone who has a brain.
@@randomcole619 your comment means nothing because no one knows your perspective. If you are left then you probably don't want guns and if you are right then you probably do. So what is his stance on guns that you feel is so bad?
If you cut funding to Israel it ceases to exist
You beat me to the comment
I’m sorry Dave, I’m still voting RFK 2024. I still think he is the best opportunity to break the two party system. He is great on many things that neither Trump or Biden are good on. The Gaza war is a tough pill but that’s true with both Trump and Biden. He represent a real shot at transforming a majority of the problem.
listen to Kennedy's podcast path to peace, episode1&2. You will hear his nuanced views and sincere intention to get to true solutions. Add to that the fact that he wants to bring troops home and close many of the American bases in the world: he's by far the best candidate, also on the Isr/Pal issue!
@@mariekuijkenhistoricallyaw2598 I have listened to it and I can appreciate the nuance but the position that he is putting out there otherwise is characterized as the most hawkish. I don’t think that’s true but he came out hard out of the gate with that Rabbi after they labeled him antiemetic. His nuance is lost in many of his interviews including with Smith. It’s costing him…
3rd party vote lol
Didn't he say he thinks it's okay to kill babies after they're born?
@@shawnnichols7573 No
Dave Smith needs to be a regular on the show, maybe every two or three weeks!
nah man he's a mises/rothbard ron paul clown. he's a clown who wears the aesthetic of a serious person and apparently can trick enough of these doofuses. it's really that easy.
Everything dave smith says i couldn’t agree more.
Dave is such an important voice of reason in America today.
Wait until he takes a position with which you strongly disagree. You'll sing a different tune.
@@stevensica5918haha you must not talk to many libertarians. I’m very used to disagreeing with people but still valuing their opinion.
@@LittleMountainLife Wait until he takes a position with which you strongly disagree. You'll sing a different tune. It's just a matter of time.
@@stevensica5918 are you a bot? Why copy/paste…?
@@LittleMountainLife No, I am a fully interactive human being.
Dave Smith is a national treasure.
Until he talks about the “debt” then you realize he’s dumb
These are the gayest comments
These replies are gayer than ISIS
@@tonyc3716how so?
Smith/Bear 2020
dave looks so jaded man i wanna give him a hug, he shouldn't blame himself for what happened at lnc.
He’s going through it dude
*dnc
Bernie supporters already experienced this, and so have Green Party voters.
All these parties have been infiltrated.
@@lilben4184 No Nobu was right with lnc. Liberterian National Convention
@@taylorroos4414 they nominated an unrepentant homosexual, it was the dnc alright
I love that Saagar mispronounced Mises and Dave has continually mispronounced Saagar for years. It’s almost as bad as Dave and Spokane
Yes!😂 love Dave, but was thinking the same thing!
Core values
The side eye look that Krystal gave Saagar when he says Jill Stein will get a lot of votes had me rolling
She will !!! She just clinched the New York ballot. Already on thirty ballots....JILL STEIN 2024 !!!
@@JohnCavendish-ql4jcanything that takes votes away from Biden!
@@JohnCavendish-ql4jc the issue with Stein is that she was weak when it came to COVID policy. Where was she when it came to protesting the mandates?
@josemonge6622 She wasn't on the front lines protesting but I don't think she's pro mandate either. There are many Greens who were against it.
Of course she will. Every single year the 'left' becomes easier to fool. Stein is obviously a stealth right wing fascist - as is Krystal and Kyle.
Thanks for having Dave on! Really explains Libertarian politics well
There is no better canidate running on all most every issue that was just brought up than Bobby Kennedy, Jr. Maybe not all, but most. I say RFK all the way.
listen to Kennedy's podcast path to peace, episode1&2. You will hear his nuanced views and sincere intention to get to true solutions. Add to that the fact that he wants to bring troops home and close many of the American bases in the world: he's by far the best candidate, also on the Isr/Pal issue!
I’m with you 💯‼️
"I love everything about RFKjr, he could totally win, but the one issue -Israel- (that the other two are admittedly worse on anyway) is a deal breaker..." -- are these people supposed to be intelligent or something??
I know 🤦♀️ right?!?!
Dave Smith is the man!
LOVE Dave Smith!! So good to see him on your show!!
I was a Ron Paul guy and that is why i voted libertarian. I am going to Malice this election and probably not ever vote again in the presidential elections going forward. The L candidates have been worse and worse every cycle so i am done with them.
RFK Jr is still the best candidate of my lifetime. No one can afford to be a one issue voter. The stakes are too high, and Bobby's ability to turn us onto a healthy path is too strong.
It’s not impossible that Dave smith in the coming years becomes the complete face of that party. If he does he’ll bring unity and I could see him becoming a strong nominee. If libertarians ever get a president elected in the next 3 or 4 cycles it’ll be a maturing more politically savvy Dave smith.
They chose Oliver over him. His caucus got out voted by the Leftwing ones.
That time was now. The Mises took over the party and there was a huge amount of support behind Dave running for president before Dave dropped out. They never united behind another candidate.
I disagree, the Libertarians will never be a serious contender. They all have (to varying degrees) a fundamental core problem that makes them Libertarians in the first place. That flaw is "to be a unified party, you have to allow someone else to dictate a decision to you that you disagree with at least some time'. I don't agree with my political party 100% of the time, so there are some decisions it makes I have to accept. That is diametrically opposed to what "Libertarians stand for". I'm not saying they're right or wrong in this/that political stance, but to be unified you have to be in a collective of sorts, and that's not what they're about.
@@ryanhead2004 I just asked a similar question in a separate thread. Is there anything that actually unifies all these disagreeing factions within the Libertarian Party!? 🤷♀
@@anderseckstrand7033 haha probably not enough things yet but maybe a charismatic very libertarian minded individual could unify them over time. Like Dave smith. And he’s still palatable to mainstream people. I can see him being responsible for bringing members and interest into the party that never would have been there before. In a dream scenario he would have become rfk jr’s VP and changed rfk’s mind on Israel and he’d be on every ballot hands down. They’d win and Dave smith would be the first libertarian president after eight years of rfk. I dream!
I am not a Libertarian but I am anti war.
Lifelong Libertarian I'm voting for RFK. I am very impressed with Dave Smith. I knew nothing about him till the last month and have heard him only a couple of times both times liked him alot. For him I would- add Mises caucus could do itself a big favor at least in Colorado by not trying to be an exclusionary group and lose the pink haired girl. I agree with Dave Smith and everything I've heard him say, and I volunteered on Ron Paul's campaign been elected to office and all I got was pushed away.
Where at? And what happened?
Can I ask you how you reconcile RFK saying Palestinians are one of the most pampered people on planet earth? To me if we’re libertarians and stand on anti war principals then that’s a complete deal breaker. As soon as I heard him say this a couple months ago on BP my mind automatically went conspiratorial and thought about the fact that he had been on Epstein’s flight logs multiple times and the fact that Epstein very possibly was connected to Mossad. Does that make sense?
This is a sad day for the libertarians. They had some intriguing leaders like Smith, national exposure with attention from Trump & RFK jr and they nominated a clown. Talk about squandering an opportunity.
@charlesparent-spioneck9928 I'm assuming you are asking me. For me voting for RFK is heavily based on his willingness to take on the beauracracy and by extension begin reducing the debt. Biden shows no interest in doing this. Trump talked about draining the swamp but got rolled by Fauci into shutting down our country. Kennedy seems by far the most likely candidate with a viable path to election to stand by the bill of rights against future shut downs. On the military front Biden has added Ukraine to our long list of military expenses and upped money to Israel. Trump again got rolled by the military industrial complex and while he didn't add any new wars he didn't get us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and the other million spots we have troops and proxy wars. Kennedy would get us out of Ukraine. Based on the murders of his father and uncle I see him as the most distrustful of the military industrial complex.
For me I am pro Palestinian, pro Isreal, anti Hamas, anti Netanyahu. Mostly though I am pro my country (USA) and wish we would quit blowing money we don't have on wars that are none of our business. I hope that makes sense to you and wish you the best and hope you'll consider voting for RFK
@@charlesparent-spioneck9928they literally get more foreign aid than anywhere else lol
Wow. Thank you. Thought provoking. I still feel that RFK JR is our greatest hope for a chance to change things up. Would you be willing to reach out to him to expand and shift his ideas and perspective?
listen to Kennedy's podcast path to peace, episode1&2. You will hear his nuanced views and sincere intention to get to true solutions. Add to that the fact that he wants to bring troops home and close many of the American bases in the world: he's by far the best candidate, also on the Isr/Pal issue!
RFK needs to be in the debates, most people know nothing about his policies besides he's anti-vax. When a president has no power over what you and your doctor do, its really a non-issue
As a Libertarian, Chase was never going to get my vote. He should be running Green not Libertarian.
I’m not a fan of chase, but he’s far from being a greeny. He seems much closer to a left libertarian.
Thats just what democrats need, yet another spoiler for them this election. They already have Jill Stein, Cornel West, and RFK jr to worry about for siphoning dem votes away. Now “Libertarian” Chase Oliver comes in and only a lefty would back him
He’s someone democrats who hate Biden can vote for
You Libs messed up with your Prez nomination. He sucks
Will Trump be getting your vote?
I can’t tell you how refreshing it is to hear someone not from the left accurately characterize the left’s position and comparison between them and the Democratic Party. Great job Dave Smith
Yes! And I hate when people call the Democratic Party the Left or the Progressives! They have more in common with Republicans!
RFK Jr. is still the best choice for president! Kennedy/Shanahan2024
His VP selection removed my support for him. I was seriously thinking about casting for him until that happened.
Unfortunate.
She is Bobby’s Mike Pence (the behind the back part)
Really.. I bet you VOTED a lot.. 😂😂😂
@JP-ho6zc Anyone capable of basic research or critical thinking will eventually realize that Kennedy is the best candidate. only far left and far right fanatics will vote for biden or trump
Yes!!!❤🎉 Kennedy🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
If he didn't pick Nicole for VP, Bobby's poll ratings could've been higher.
Kennedy for president 2024!!!
Agreed! Just wish everyone would also realize he's pro Palestine and stop pulling short sound bytes.
RFK Jr 2024!!!
Dave, you could have mentioned that RFK asked you to he his VP candidate.
RFK 2024 Let's Go!!!
Look at the distain in Krystal's face when Dave says Bobby would be President save his Israel stance.
Yeah didn’t see it, all in your head bud
Dave is an important voice. Having flirted with the Libertarian party I am acutely aware that it isn't really prepared to organize or govern within our existing system. It is still important to highlight the long term unsustainability and insanity of said system and perhaps the long term answer is in a dramatically less centralized planning and a smaller span of government which would keep us out of all these absurd international entanglements etc.
Rfk jr got my vote
Dave Smith is intelligent and admirably relevant these days. And dang, he's cute!
😂😂 Nobody booed Kennedy.
Facts!! only standing ovations!
It was a great and informative speech. 🎉❤
He gave a heartfelt strong speech that was very moving 💪
LOVE DAVE SMITH!
LP doesn’t love Dave Smith.
He's great
@LibertyGoose he literally controls the entire party and he hand picked evvery delegate. Pretty sure they do
Ask him about his position on Social Security.
Ask ibertarians if the free market allows them to sell children?
KENNEDY 2024❤🇺🇸
Dave’s the Best
He's all up in our crib/Prob'ly talkin' politics.
@@paulfroelich1024I see you’re a gentle men who is well versed in comedy podcasts😂😂😂
rfk jr has my vote.
Kennedy is the only chance we have to elect someone outside of the two party duopoly. He may be the only chance we ever get for a very long time.
I hear you but it's not happening
did you listen to the biden mouth piece segment that talked about the terrible economy? are you comfortable with accepting more of the same the next four years?
He's part of the Duopoly. Rumor has it his family and his views are of a typical Democrat
Exactly!
@@karthy257 Bobby literally has taken on corp corruption for many years! Anyone else in his family?
Lets not pull punches here… if the libertarians were not a joke already they definitely are after their presidential nominee 😂
yeah, thats been their problem since ron paul though?
like i have no idea how they unify for a single candidate when they are top heavy with idiots. it really feels like they have the same problem as the normal 2 party morons. the base wants something and the people on top are just not great
Let's not pretend Trump isn't a joke
😂😂😂
@@syyner1748ok TDS sufferer 😂
They really were a joke already. Every reasonable libertarian is trying to help the Ron/Rand Paul wing if the republican party.
Just like the hosts here, absolute clowns who thankfully will never have the slightest influence in politics.
Kennedy is good. Jesus the propaganda has gotten to y’all.
I know 🙄
RFK is the best choice despite his support for Israel.
listen to Kennedy's podcast path to peace, episode1&2. You will hear his nuanced views and sincere intention to get to true solutions. Add to that the fact that he wants to bring troops home and close many of the American bases in the world: he's by far the best candidate, also on the Isr/Pal issue!
They should have nominated Bobby Kennedy Jr. They would have had a real chance to overturn the two party system. People get too hung up on singular issues that they agree or disagree over. We need outsiders to change things badly.
Why would we elect an environmentalist lawyer? He would be better off going to the greed party.
While I do not like or trust Junior, I absolutely think youre right. If the libertarian party wanted to explode in popularity and have a good shot at taking the white house, they should have backed Junior. While it would have been very interesting to watch the libertarian party finally rise and win some states, it likely would have been a disaster for Trump by splitting the vote and re-electing Joe Biden.
His blind support for Israel is just a deal breaker 🤷🏽♂️
@@gahdzuwkz6647 I agree he is way off as far as not recognizing civilian deaths but at least he has a well thought out policy. He's correct on Ukraine and Russia. I think Kennedy understands our country's corruption better than anybody though and is probably best equipped to unravel it. Imagine your father and uncle being assassinated and believing that our own government had something to do with it. He will turn over every stone. I'm not sure our country is even ready for all that.
@@manofthecloth777 yeah, I really loved all his stances on pretty much everything else. It would be a nice change if he actually got in, but he’d have to definitely watch his back.
Vote for Kennedy anyway even if you don’t agree with him on every issue. If he wins he will make all other 3rd party candidates have a better chance of winning.
or alternatively demand more of the candidates that actually are in the race.
there are no solutions, just trade offs is the most insightful quote in the world if your trade off is giving up power, that feels like a loss.
I can't. His abortion, 2A and Israel positions are no go zones for me.
🎯💯‼️
Krystal knows better than to try to challenge Dave on anything.
Absolutely!
Funny how they didn't show Smith's speech before trump spoke, where he said "Be respectful and listen to what he has to say".
Kennedy 2024
FWIW, RFK was on Shane Gillis's podcast acknowledging that Netenyahu propped up Hamas to prevent a two state solution.
listen to Kennedy's podcast path to peace, episode1&2. You will hear his nuanced views and sincere intention to get to true solutions. Add to that the fact that he wants to bring troops home and close many of the American bases in the world: he's by far the best candidate, also on the Isr/Pal issue!
Satanyahu admitted that HIMSELF. Lookup the quotes and VIDEO.
They fund their own radicals; then bilk $4B+++ a yr from American taxpayers for their "defense."
"H*** s, to my great regret, is Is***'s creation,"
A. Cohen, former Israeli religious officer who worked in gahxaa for over 2 decades.
-Wall Street Journal, 2009
I certainly don't agree with Bobby on the Palestine conflict, but I agree with him on so many other things that it pushes him over the top for me.
I agree with him on everything but Gaza and it made me drop him. I can overlook a lot of things but that is a bridge too far. What a shame. I couldn't see myself supporting someone who openly defends mass slaughter of innocent children no matter how good he is on other issues.
@@TexasGreed who are you gonna vote for? Cause right now, all 3 candidates are in lockstep on Gaza
@@blitzme99 then no one. If the system doesn't serve me why would I prop it up for the people who support the "lesser evil" you can be on the side of evil if you want. I'll wait for a candidate who comes to get my vote, not crawl up to an evil one on my knees like a dog. Have some self respect and more importantly principle. Principle is for the hard times not the easy times. If you buckle and give in the second it looks like you might lose something or have to suffer then you never really stood for that ideal to begin with.
@@TexasGreed I can respect that, and it's a valid response. Although if you do like Bobby Kennedy, in other aspects, I would urge you to write to his campaign to urge him to change his support of Israel. He is by far the most reachable candidate.
@@TexasGreed I've listened to him speak at great length - on multiple occasions - about the war in Gaza, and at no time heard him pontificate in a way that I or any reasonable person would consider as openly defensive of "mass slaughter of innocent children". Not even close. While I am at odds with his willingness to consider providing material support (i.e. weapons) to Israel, he did not strike me as being dogmatic about this. Additionally, he has openly expressed affection for the Palestinian people with whom he's actually spent time in the region and is explicit in targeting Hamas as the root of the conflict, as well as laying out in considerable academic detail the geopolitical history of the region to support what to him is a strongly moral position. Again, I think he needs to readjust his thinking in terms of his approach to dealing with the conflict if he were to become POTUS, but I also think the criticism leveled at him is often a knee-jerk response to some specific language he's used without arms-length consideration of the full context of his position.
Krystal single handedly bringing this show down with her bias.
RFK said that Palestinians receive the most aid per capita, his argument was but for Hamas, they could build whatever they want on other people's dime which is true.
Exactly! 👍🏼
I too wish I knew what they have on RFK Jr
Majority of libertarians wanted Ron Paul . Unfortunately they chose RuPaul .
Trump ain't Ron Paul
@@ericwolford5685 he's closer to Ron Paul then Oliver twist 🤡
Let's get to the point here. RFK Jr is so clearly the best choice for president. Can we just get behind this guy as a country and get this revolutionary into office? RFK JR for President!!
Right! This is IT!
Kennedy didn’t mean “pampered,” he meant showered - with international aid. Which is true, his POINT is that Hamas steals all of it and became billionaires in Qatar. Kennedy has denounced Netanyahu many times. Shmuley is not a foreign policy adviser.
Glad you’re informed. I see so much misinformation on RFK
Shmuley SHOULDN’T be a foreign policy advisor, you mean - but he is.
Great guest and so well said by Dave. So many great points
This is so sad for the libertarians. They had some intriguing leaders like Smith, some national exposure with attention from Trump & RFK jr and they nominated a clown. Talk about squandering an opportunity. See you in two decades when you're relevant again.
I’m about American 🇺🇸 here. But yeah RFK JR stand on Israel is bad but the American 🇺🇸 people getting sicker and fatter is a lot more important than Israel and Palestine. And I believe 100% he will dropped the sickness down. You Americans should know which one is important.
Dave Smith for president
At least Robert Kennedy Jr is willing to discuss withdrawing US money from Israel and THAT is the only way to stop the genocide in Gaza.
listen to Kennedy's podcast path to peace, episode1&2. You will hear his nuanced views and sincere intention to get to true solutions. Add to that the fact that he wants to bring troops home and close many of the American bases in the world: he's by far the best candidate, also on the Isr/Pal issue!
@@mariekuijkenhistoricallyaw2598 He's 100% pro Israel. He's said it himself. Idk why commenters on this are gaslighting that he's nuanced on that issue at all.
He has to say israel is the most pampered nation. getting billions of american taxpayer money. he could have atleast taken Vicveks stand - support Israel diplomatically and not send money.
Where and when has he said that he would consider withdrawing US money from Izrahell?? I don’t think that’s accurate.
Chase Oliver was a win for Trump. Someone like Dave Smith...without the baggage could have got the Libertarian vote up to 5-10% RFK would have also had major implications on the presidential race. Until a third party puts up significant numbers their will only be a uniparty.
There is no doubt the LP is not getting the Ron Paul type libertarians. They are warm towards Trump and Rand Paul endorsement for Trump will get him most of them.
@@karthy257Ron Paul libertarians are going to split one of three ways depending on which policy issues are most important to them. 1) They’ll vote for Trump. 2) They’ll vote for RFK Jr. 3) They’ll sit at home and not vote. Under no circumstance are they going to vote for Chase “Armed & Gay” Oliver.
Dave Smith is the best! You were the first to get his reaction to Chase Oliver's nomination. Congrats on the scoop!
Dave was the only reason the Trump speech at the LNC didn’t become violent
I'm still wondering how someone intelligent, calm, and level-headed like Dave Smith got pulled into that crazy Libert Party. I saw and heard too many nuts in there.
Thank you both for having guys like Dave on. I may have some fundamental disagreements with him and the libertarians on policy, but it’s always nice to know there are still some areas where leftists and libertarians can align on. I can also respect that libertarians are generally at least principled, which is a lot more than can be said of many other candidates.
Finally!!!! Got my boy Dave Smith on the show!!!!!! LFG
Been waiting for this mashup for a long time 👌
Dennis Krusinich would have been a great Libertarian candidate back in the day
Love Dave! Thanks for having him on
Using all caps in video titles is OBNOXIOUS
Just like you did?
@@squatch545 EXACTLY
@@squatch545that's the joke
Even worse that it’s clickbait lies. Trump melts down? They call that a meltdown? He got booed. That’s it. His reaction was extremely professional…NOT anything close to a MELTDOWN
Just a way to utilize the way the algorithm is set up. Your ire should be directed at YT for endorsing that kind of title format.
Kennedys in it to win it❤❤
Mad respect to those libertarians who are ideologically driven.
Like really? I'm honestly curious if you're being sarcastic
Children who don’t know how to get power and accomplish things?
Ron Paul-ish lowercase libertarian here. I like RFK a lot as a candidate and respect the hell out of him, but I’ll be voting for Trump in November. It makes zero sense to me that the LP practically boos Trump off the stage, and then nominates a woke, lefty-libertarian as their candidate. Wtf? They literally would’ve done better to nominate Vermin Supreme.
[Edited to Add] Where I break with Dave Smith (i.e. why I’d willingly vote for Trump or RFK when he wouldn’t) is because I’m a non-interventionist - not a pacifist. My #1 issue isn’t war and peace abroad, it is domestic policy for our own citizens and our liberties. It is enough for me for us to not meddle in the affairs of other countries and to not fund coups or foreign wars. Love him or hate him, Trump is the first president in my lifetime to not get us engaged an any overseas conflicts. That’s enough for me. I love Dave, but he irks me his foreign policy positions sometimes. There’s nothing inconsistent about being pro-Ukraine and pro-Israel (they *were* the ones who were attacked after all), while also believing we have no duty to fund these countries’ defenses. I can believe that America’s foreign policy and forever wars indeed turn other nations against us without wholesale accepting Hamas and Putin propaganda.
Yes. Libertarian for Trump now that lawfare happened.
Libertarian for a felon here
@@RogerCampbell-lf1gt Right. It’s long been clear that our election system has been hijacked by a two party system who more or less choose our representatives for us. We all know it’s bullshit. But the lawfare practiced against Trump represents an even further step towards a totalitarian dystopia where one party essentially rules uncontested over everything. Only one party is blatantly trying to keep other parties’ candidates off of the ballot - the Democrats have conspired to keep both Trump and RFK Jr. off of ballots, are denying RFK Jr. Secret Service protection despite his obviously elevated security risk, and are now literally trying to jail their political opposition to prevent his election. At what point is it reasonable to call this an attempted coup?
So happy to see Dave on! I hope you have him back. He'd be great for any debates as well.
I think RFK is going to take a majority of the libertarian vote.
Dave rocks 🤘🏽
I'm sorry, I do understand opposing RFK's stance on Israel. I don't agree with him there, but he's so much better on many other points. While I think he phrased it poorly, I think his core statement around the Palestinians being the most pampered was referring to how much aide we have provided over time. It's a very nuanced situation, terrible things have been done by both sides and he has stated that he would focus on stopping the war. Biden and Trump are also very pro-Israel. So, I'd rather look at someone who, for the most part, is open-minded, will research and change his mind, cares about the health of the people, cares about doing something about the national debt, and so many other points that other candidates don't even mention. There is no perfect candidate, and there never will be. His speech at the Libertarian Convention was inspiring. I can't say that inspiring comes to mind when I hear president Biden or Trump speak.
Rfk is more pro isreal then biden and trump....
For some people this issue and the cost of this war in innocent blood is so over the top that it's no longer possible to hold your nose and vote for the least bad. Or for whomever is better on other things. It's not an issue that many feel can be put aside. On the left we at least have a couple other options as hopeless as they may be. But if I had to choose between Biden, Trump, and RFK, I feel strongly enough about this issue that I would skip that box and only vote down ballot.
I couldn't agree with this man more .. I was all for rfk until Oct!!! I was a trump supporter then I started seeing a lot of changes telling ppl to get vaxxed, the truth about war and drone strikes and his isreal support.. can we say antichrist 💯... the shit is him in Jerusalem and the wall and his face on a isrrali coin.. so rfk was where I was going and then he opened his mouth about isreal and he was clueless and he is bought by aipac.. no never again.. Jill stein has my vote.. this libertarian guy is to far gone no child should get medical stuff to change their gender they need mental health help not a sex change and open borders umm NO NO NO...JILL2024...NY HELP HER GET IN THE BALLOT SHE NEEDS UR SIGNATURE SO SHE WILL BE ON NY BALLOT ITS HUGE. . JILLSTEIN2024.COM
@@societysvillain How does this issue effect you personally?
@@jullian2598 Well... I personally can't stand seeing my tax money go toward bombing and starving innocent kids. As a human, I can't think of anything more important personally.
The fact is biden is not going to win, period. We really have only two choices. Bobby or the donald. If you're not voting for bobby, then you're voting for trump, period.
Right. Trump 2024 😊
Watch the speeches. As a libertarian minded person, I think RFK Jr. demonstrated an understanding of the values and principles that he aligns with. He was concise and clear about how he would accomplish goals that furthered those principles, and knew what the party was about. Trump said a few coached buzz words, and key phrases that seemed to be generated from a word cloud. The reason he got booed was because everyone there saw thru his phony pandering. RFK got more than one standing ovation.
Bobby is the only candidate that gets down in the weeds on how he's going to accomplish his agenda. The other 2 just finger point, deflect and spit out buzzwords and platitudes.
@@loudharley6926spot on analysis! Thank you sir!
Trump was completely unprepared for the convention, but the crowd wasn't going to cut him break anyway.
Dave is the best! Saw him live the other day and he keeps it real
man, if you guys include dave smith more often he'll cause your subscriber numbers to skyrocket
Dave Smith!🐐
Great to have Dave smith on!!!
Dave Smith is a terrific voice for the common good and against our absurdly corrupt duopoly. I agree with almost everything he says except about Israel/Gaza, and even about that I partially agree with him.
But what they're all missing is that they seem to mostly agree with Bobby on almost everything else, they're disgusted with the uniparty and the wars, and Bobby is the best chance we've seen in years to challenge the duopoly.
listen to Kennedy's podcast path to peace, episode1&2. You will hear his nuanced views and sincere intention to get to true solutions. Add to that the fact that he wants to bring troops home and close many of the American bases in the world: he's by far the best candidate, also on the Isr/Pal issue!
great to see Dave getting more traction