My problem with RSG is that he almost never shows things he actually likes and is soooo pretentious, jokingly or not. He's one of those channels that's basically just a rage bait it feels like since he's never doing anything positive or taking things seriously. And whenever he is seemingly being positive or trying to be serious it always feels so sarcastic and not genuine at all. He just never seems like he can have a genuine conversation since he's always filing his videos with tasteless jokes, complaining, mocking, dumb voices and attempts to try to be funny. He never gives real criticisms on how the things he complains about so much can be better. Not to mention the fact he just insults his own audience a lot. Like he genuinely acts like he can never be wrong and there really is no self-awareness.
Yes I did make a long-ass yapping session of a comment that I sectioned off, but that's only so you people can read it easily. Now don't get this wrong I actually have watched RSG for a while and even like some of his videos since I think they're funny. But I'm not going to lie Colin has obliterated you and really pointed out your flaws. You act like you're never wrong, never take things seriously interest in salt everything and are so overly pretentious and negative.
@@UltraIDDQD6DOOM Dude you might actually suffer from retardation so i wont judge you too harshly. RSG has stated plenty of times when he has been wrong, for example in his rdr1 video. And he has praised kung fu pnada 1 so he gives positive feedback sometimes.
I think it's obvious that he's referring to crappy character development and the nonsensical progression of the story. Also inconsistencies in the story among other things.
@@makeitquick3998The character progression is near perfect, and most examples he gives literally just show he has no comprehension skills. List major problems with character progression.
i will never understand why people think that liking something and admitting that it has flaws or things that can be improved upon are mutually exclusive concepts. there are so many stories i love in spite of their flaws or missed opportunities when it came to their writing and the complexity/artistry of their writing. your favorite story doesn't need to be this literary masterpiece that everyone in schools across the world will study for the next few centuries.
@@dylanhudec979 congratulations. you're one of the man babies he was addressing in this video if that's what you took away from my comment. enjoy being a clown
@@ursidae97 he did admit it had good elements tho that's just what he did through the start of the video. and of course, nobody is making him talk about invincible nobody is claiming anybody is he just wants too. it seems much more to me like you're upset he disagrees with you, and you want him to stop.
Please PLEASE keep making videos so I don't feel like a psycho the next time I have to hear my coworkers takes on these shows. You are literally curing my mental psychosis.
I agree with most of what you present in this video, except for the labeling of your detractors with the reductive ad hominem of "manchild". That in itself is a failure in argumentation.
@@cactuscam913 except there is meaning behind it and he explains his points, for example the battle between Invincible and Levi for him is without tension, because Invincible can just use his super speed and punch him before he can even react, but he doesn’t
@@СтефаноНачевnot to mention he does use his super speed when he’s sent into the dinosaur dimension and Levi reacts due to the physical enhancements he received, we even see mark is disoriented due to how fast he was going when he hit the ground
I thought about it, and I noticed how you're a bit of a hypocrite. You go on and make a full on 30 min video (not to mention your other vids where you talk about your haters) on why these guys are manchildren, and while you might be right to some degree, the fact that you can't just ignore them and accept the fact that there will always be someone who disagrees shows how you can't move on. Who cares if some kid says "never let bro cook again"? Ignore them, and focus more on better things. I understand why you dislike this behavior, but you don't need to make a 30 min video to explain that to us. TL;DR It's ok to not like haters, but you don't need to hate on them back for 30 minutes straight. Just ignore them.
fair enough if the side stuff isn't interesting, i love it. invincible feels like it gets deserved praise but the animation gets way too easy of a slide
Because subjective discourse at the end of the day is 99% of the time boring and thoughtless, and judging by C0lin's response, the live debate would clearly be in bad faith.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I personally like Invincible. While I agree the animation has big problems, the music is just there and most of the writing is meh but I really enjoy the direction of the story. I think some of the side plots are interesting or ant least good enough to not skip through and they make the world feel bigger more lived in but some of them are just bad. The sequid storyline was the worst in my opinion and nothing interesting happens with it later in the comics. The best side story in my opinion was the one with titan but even then I still get why other people would consider it boring. The main story is the best part and so far in the show it’s been minimal, I think what hurts the most to me is knowing how much better the story gets later on in the comic. There are less boring side plots and some actually great ones, the main story gets more focus and Mark becomes a better character and is way more compelling and interesting. After thinking about it, I 100% understand and somewhat agree all of your points, I can’t completely explain it but I still like the show for what it is, 6/10.
@Iianator no, he argued against people who blatantly called him wrong and gave no explanation. People who just got offended that he didn't like what they liked. This comment here respects what RSG says, while disagreeing, but being respectful in having a different opinion because of their different perspective. I can genuinely see why RSG respects these kinds of people over the man-children who just rage
@@neptuned7937 "gave no explanation" A whole ass video, basic questions to simple mistakes he made, the fact that he's made so many videos now on the same stuff that they've already argued and just got insulted or ignored? Hell not giving an explanation is what HE does just showing a clip and saying it's an example of bad writing with no explanation as to why
@Iianator a small clip of good/bad writing shouldn't need a whole explanation. It's pretty easy to tell most of the times when a movie or show is just spelling everything out for you and when characters just aren't interesting or contradict themselves. Good writing is subtle, does what it needs to do and nothing more, nothing less. Do you need a whole explanation for every 3 second clip you see?
@@neptuned7937 Except it wasn't that, it was just clips that he showed with no understanding of the character or actual nitpicks. "Debbie saying what happened is bad writing and exposition" Her being surprised and basically tldr'ing it with her own perspective? "The comedy isn't good" 2 jokes from Rex Splode who we know is not an emotional guy using awkward humour to lighten the mood
Maybe one day my boy will enjoy an anime but if he doesn't who give a shit bc we can disagree, we aren't man children on reddit/discord with inferiority complexes Atleast he liked Cowboy Bebop and will give it a chance
@@buzter8135 people say stuff like “Hazbin would’ve been better if it had more episodes.” Look at Helluva Boss. They can have as MANY episodes as they like and yet it still has shit pacing, terrible villains and god-awful world building. Hazbin is just an extension of that.
Brother no one is arguing that invincible is some kind of high brow deep cut writing. But things don't need that to be good. Invincible is simple, but it is good at being simple and does a good job at roping you in. It is fine to say you don't like invincible but to call it objectively bad is overkill. Here for example, it is clear you like red dead redemption 2, yes red dead redemption 2 has a very good story but it is one of the only games I would never replay because it is slow. I would say that I enjoyed the game but I like other games with "worse" stories more because they are good at doing what they do.
Here's a tip for everyone: If you don't like media you enjoy getting dunked on, maybe don't watch videos that are obviously negative?? However I personally think you SHOULD watch negative reviews of things you like, because it can give you a new perspective on it and make you appreciate it even more Just because people don't like something you do, doesn't mean you should feel bad for liking it, and vice versa
@@The_revenger69 Even if some people just hate for the sake of hating, it doesn't mean you should automatically assume everyone is just because they dislike something you like Hear them out first, it'll be obvious if they actually bothered to get through it or if they're just nitpicking
exactly like he actually makes very valid points even if i generally disagree that the show's bad. this isn't one of those videos where they just throw around insults for no reason and i'm shocked it has such a bad reception
I found invincible entertaining even if its animation was whack at times and its plot lines alright at best. It's just funny how liking something that has flaws is some alien concept to these people and they'd rather take the idea that it's absolute cinema to their grave
watching the intro while coming down from ketamine is an extreme sport I actually like the robot clone scene a lot. What makes it work for me is that Rudy very clearly knew going in that there is no actual 'coin flip', just a new mind separate from the original, IE he himself was never going to live in a normal body. But he goes through with it anyway and willingly gives his life so that his clone could experience what he could not. And what makes it doubly work is that the clone doesn't wallow in guilt, he immediately accepts the original's call for him to live life to the fullest and doesn't look back once. They could have easily fucked it up by having the new Rudy go through a season-long boring ass arc about overcoming the guilt, but they didn't, because that wouldn't be in character. It was a surprisingly moving scene for such a boring sideplot.
If this show came out during the prime of superhero media, I don’t think people would think of it as good as they do right now. The competition right now is so low that people just want to believe that the show is good.
I think you have articulated your points very nicely in this video, but I do have to point out that you comparing the end of invincible season 2 with the end of the boys season 1 is unfair. In invincible, this whole sequence is taking straight up from the comics (to a surprising level too) and the invincible comics have been concluded a long time ago, while the boys show has only been out there in recent memory. I also wouldn't think that the boys riped that idea of invincible, I believe that it's just a coincident, and that both writing teams came up with the same idea on there own.
@@macvadda2318 he admitted to enjoy center thing in the show. And I the only thing I thought deserving of a real call out is his unfair comparing of the boys season 1 ending with invincible season 2 ending.
@@Kaijuenjoyer-nv7qn I see what you mean by that. But I don't know the guy personally or anything. I just thought he had something critical to say about the show, like calling out the weaker animations in some certain points in the show. And I think he did nicely is all. But I really wouldn't die on that hill or anything like that.
Oh my god, you actually responded to my comment I'm surprised, don't get me wrong you did make some good points in the previous video and season 2 did have some flaws and some scene's did drag on for way too long like the Amber and Mark scene's no show Is perfect after all it's just how you explain it that was the problem , maby if you went more in depth and elaborated a bit more than you would have less angry comments plus I had a long day and was very tired I also can’t stand tiktok and believe it's a waste of time.
You mean your goat who said “I’m not critiquing Invincible, I’m reviewing it”? Care to explain to me how that makes any sense without me dying of laughter?
@@jaxxpool9630 criticising - This pizza is bad, because of this and this reviewing - I don’t like this pizza, because of this and this Do you see the difference?
I don’t have the same opinion as you on invincible. But to me I still think it’s a great story definitely not perfect but pretty good. I respect your opinion and this was a good video.
@@dylanhudec979I actually love Invincible, but I have come to a realization that RSG 2 will never like the show. His points are very flawed, but why would I waste my time telling him what makes Invincible great if he won’t budge?
@@DaWhisper I, too, have watched Colin’s video. He actually cooked him both times, but my point is that RSG 2 will never change his opinion for the time being. I will prepare to eat dookie if he changes his mind on the entire show, though.
When people say "Art is subjective" what I think people really mean is that what we interpret from the artist's intention is subjective, but using that as a defense is not useful at all. Liking a piece of art will always be a subjective thing, and nobody can take that away from anyone else. I love TASM2. I also agree that TASM2 is a poorly written story. Those two things can coexist, otherwise the term "so bad it's good" wouldn't hold much meaning if the quality is nebulous and just up to someone. Having standards for storytelling quality is important, and having these standards isn't guaranteed to make a story dull. There's also a case to be made for words and how we use them, which brings me to my next point: There is a difference between excitement and fun. I had fun with Dune Part 1 while many people found it boring. Excitement would be how much action is in a movie. For example a movie like John Wick is exciting, because of all the action. But whether someone has fun with it or not will be completely subjective, and that is completely fine. At first glance, separating the words "fun" and "exciting" and assigning the meaning objective and subjective onto them sounds like a futile thing considering they're synonymous, but this strategy is used to properly determine what people mean in a useful manner by explaining what people mean when they say something was boring and describe why it'd be a detriment. As a writer, I find it useful when assessing media quality, avoiding plot holes, contrivances, inconsistent characterization and worldbuilding, because this challenges me to make my story as interesting and exciting as possible, while trying to keep the audience's interest. It's a daunting task, but it's rewarding, especially when you know for a fact that you crafted a story that has so many things to analyze while also maintaining believability, which is what a lack of problems would provide. I can guarantee that no piece of art will be perfect, nobody is. But abandoning the strive for perfection just because it's too hard or because it's unachievable is a defeatist mindset that I refuse to accept. Not to say any of these things were argued in this video, but it's something I think is important to keep in mind
i just think that when you watch a show critically, you start noticing the errors and plotholes. if you really want to enjoy shows you have to just turn off your brain and relax
You can do that but some media is made to be analyzed. For example I'd say Age of Fire (a book series about dragon xenofiction) isn't something you can turn your brain off for; you'd probably enjoy it less because of the hearty prose. Though I guess that is meant to be a children's book so I can't say completely.
I don’t understand the whole, “this stuff doesn’t bother me. I don’t care about other’s opinions” thing if you’re just going to shout insults at messages. It shows that you 100% do care about how people feel. Especially when those feelings are directed towards your takes and your opinions. I much would’ve rather this been a video where you actually tell me why Invincible is a “bad” show with “bad” writing.
I think a large part of the vehement defense of this overall mid show is just a symptom of it being trendy right now. If it wasn’t what popped up on Twitter people wouldn’t be so passionate about it. After all its seasons have run through and we’ve been given a few years to process the show as a whole, I think your criticisms of what we have now may be more widely accepted. Avatar the Last Airbender ended a decade and a half ago, people still defend it now because its writing actually holds up, not because it’s the trendiest show ever right now. You made some good points, don’t let the hive mind tell you that you’re not allowed to think for yourself.
Guy's thank you for watching, I love you. I really had to lock in and become chronically online to make this video so I hope you guys enjoyed it. With this and all the future videos I make, they will be entirely for you the individual to judge. No more clap backs. Only thing that matters is that I stay true to what I feel. Thank You
This video is actually dogshit, your way of thinking is so upfront and you don’t read behind the lines, everything you criticize about this show is barely even a problem to the normal person, you are just dramatic.
You'll be chronically online for the rest of your life. It's addled your brain too much for this weird glossolalia of a video I've only managed to get 1 minute into before failing to supress the sense that's I've stumbled into banal yootoobe drama and am in the process of shaving off my life into an abyss of pointless garbage to be explained any other way besides you being an arrogant, short fused, drama whore. The description only makes that worse, with the passive aggressive "humility". You're free to not watch Invincible, free to talk about hating it and free to call the production value unacceptably low I really don't care, but you're not above it or mature at all. Seriously though you're not. This cope video is well above average length for your channel and for what? Proving yourself to stoopids? Sure...
I don’t mind the clap back videos honestly since it’s entertaining and explains your reasoning more.but I trust that whatever video you decide to make will be good no matter what.
invincible fumbles a LOT of stuff but complaining that other characters are distracting from Mark isn't really a valid criticism when one of the points of the story is that it's a "reinterpretation" of super hero stories, which very commonly have a wider universe behind them. This larger setting is the reason you find Mark's focus on his stupid selfish girlfriend or his irrelevent college career to be dumb, because it is dumb when there are obviously much bigger fish to fry. The valid criticism would be that these subplots are written like ass and some of the changes from the comic make the story objectively worse, like the drama between Mark and Amber being ruined by her sociopathic manipulation that's NEVER BROUGHT UP AGAIN.
I used to be a man child about people liking interstellar. After this I now know to respect their opinions even if I disagree. Their tales aren’t bad. Thank you.
You don't have to respect someone else's opinion. You can even call their opinion stupid. As long as you know it's an opinion and not a personal attack against you, you're fine. Hell, most of this video is just him saying, lol your opinions sucks. Ironically calling his detractors man children as he attacks their character.
@ZAGON117 It's 7.8 out of 10. Great but not Amazing. It's not ground breaking like anime, but its the second best that's made in American (Xmen 97 is in first)
@@milesharris249 I'm criticizing American shows as a whole. Very few have passed the Ben 10 stage. Sure higher res but overall the animation has hardly evolved
There's barely any animation in Invincible: just slideshows and dragging pngs around. The opening sequence of X-Men '97 has better sauce than the entire Invincible
the goat over here reminding us that we are all entitled to an opinion, and just cause we don't agree, don't mean we gotta rip eachother apart for it. we all got our takes.
@@Ineverbotheredtochangemyname nah if you look how pissy colin and all his fans are it's kinda clear who the people who can't take opinions are. I've had some people trying to argue with me over objective statements because I'm coming from a different opinion so anything I say must automatically be wrong.
@Ineverbotheredtochangemyname I've watched both videos, and I'd say both are overly emotive. Colin was throwing ad hominem insults through the whole video and seemed upset to me.
@Ineverbotheredtochangemyname just realized I had some poor wording in my comment and wanted to clarify when I said "both videos" I meant I watched this RSG2 video and Colin's response video to it not both of Colin's videos. Either way, I just think this whole thing is petty on both sides tbh.
I am fully willing to admit that I am woefully inept at evaluating “good writing”, if by “good writing” you mean the dialogue itself That said, I (subjectively) think you should maybe put a little less stock into it? I get if it’s literally impossible for you to do so, but otherwise, writing off 99% of anime because you think the dialogue is too blunt or unsubtle is silly
Also, last thing about anime Anime is partially very loud and different from how most western media is written However, that doesn’t mean there isn’t anime with “good” dialogue, or at least good in the same sense that Wes Anderson writes good dialogue (not realistic, but still artfully written) The problem is, most of it is really hard to properly translate over to English in a way that would let you fully appreciate it, since Japanese is so fundamentally different to English This is about Monogatari btw. I’m entirely speaking about the dialogue, the show has a lot of weird shit and I haven’t even watched it I’m just going off what literally everyone has said about it
Even though I like invincible.I completely agree with you about how it has lazy and generic writing. Invincible has cool but lazy ideas with meh execution.something that made me annoyed with the show was when they made that commercial talking about why season 2 was taking so long.the reason why I was annoyed was because it showed incredible animation that was really good(that apparently was animated by a nsfw artist,makes you rethink how slimy the burger was in the commercial)yet instead used the usual trash animation for actually important parts of the show making me dissatisfied with the animation.and the humor is so bad that it almost compares to shit like hazbin hotel.it felt like a massive step down from the first season.
It's always nice to find someone shitting on the stuff that people have, for some unexplainable reason, decided is "good media". It will never cease to boggle my mind, how people will endlessly shit on stuff like Rings of Power or the new Star Wars show (all terrible media in their own right), and then turn around and heap praise and positive reviews on the utter drivel of shows like Invincible. Personally, I think it's just the first bit of exposer people have with a piece of media that breaks the usual mould. It pushes just that little bit past the run-of-the-mill superhero content pushed out by Marvel or DC (and makes sure to smear on a ton of gore, so that even the most bone-headed viewer doesn't miss it), to make people think that it's some kind of deep recontextualisation or deconstruction of the genre. So naturally it's going to move a lot of people who otherwise only consume the surface level media and they'll start attaching their identity to it.
17:50 what I exactly said a few days ago in the comments of that video you showed criticizing your take there were people in his comments saying he just likes Spider-Man better but Spider-Man isn’t even supported by anything like the CIA
I'm glad some people agree that Invincible has some really boring elements. I just could not bring myself to finish season two,. I just didnt really get it like everyone else
13:00 No. Objectivity and subjectivity is not differentiated by weather someone ELSE has those emotions. Objectivity is something that can be independently assessed. It can be measured. If it fits a defined standard: then it is objective. Subjectivity is something dependent on a person. In the phrase "I was bored" that subject was YOU. The phrase "I was objectively bored" is nonsensical, because objective is not a qualifier that can ever applied to a subjective qualifier like "bored". If you meant that it was objective that you were bored (well duh, there is little reason to doubt that) then you messed up the sentence structure. It would have been "Objectively: I was bored." which is a needless qualifier because it says the same as "I was bored". Quite frankly it very much appears as an attempt to lend more credibility to your opinion. *Which you should not need to do if your points are valid.* (Which I do not doubt. It is simple to take appart invincible for its many flaws and I don't think you were incapable of doing so correctly. [Correction] I was wrong. Seems like you didn't even do that ... shame) But I am tired of people missusing "objective" because All it does is give fuel to the "Art analysis is never objective" crowd. EDIT: Oh and: No the quality of art is not allways exclusively subjective. It has both subjective and objective components. How well an artform is done can be measured objectively. What it makes you feel is ofcourse subjective. The quality of art is a combination of both. The subjective value and the objective execution. To take an example YOU brought up: The flying scene you refere to when critiquing Invincibles animation: is bad. How it makes you feel, weather you can imagine yourself in that characters shoes, or not, if it excites you: That is subjective. But the animation quality is objectively bad.
@@MonkeyeditsYT How does he not make sense? At least he points to specific things in and about the show, this guy just says a general statement of what happened in the show then says it's bad, not why or how just that it's bad.
@@MonkeyeditsYT honestly, his take was a lot more in depth into what he liked about the show while this guy’s video was just a bunch of words with no substance, like he’ll explain something he didn’t like and then just not elaborate
The animation expressions is a big problem with the show that I don’t see people talk about a lot and I agree a lot with what you said, is like they worried to much on staying on model with a few scenes as exceptions
even though i disagree with you, i really love invincible. im a fan of your philosophy that art is subjective and you don't owe anyone an explanation on why you have a certain opinion. you're just some guy. you're right that just because you happen to be on the internet, it doesn't mean you need to fill the role of other internet people (points of objective truth/analyses etc), i respect that you're a normal guy who just makes videos he wants to.
So he shouldn’t explain why he thinks Invincible is bad in a video that’s meant to be a review of it? The problem isn’t that he doesn’t like Invincible, the problem is he doesn’t elaborate on his points and expects people to just take his word for it. The part where he said “I’m not critiquing Invincible, I’m reviewing it” shows he has no idea what he’s talking about.
to many side stories was definitely a problem for the show. I actually thought wiping out 2 of the members of the guardians of globe and having rex clutch up and win even after getting shot in head was badass and actually made me more interested in him (even though it was ridiculous) but then they brought back the members they killed and made that side plot mean absolutely nothing. even when they managed to make a good side plot, they would just go and ruin it.
Wrong? Why must you kill characters that can have more done with their development And it quite literally DID help Rex grow so huh?...they're also superheroes do you know how hard it is to kill them? And ofc there's side stories it's an expansive world wtf did you think you were signing up for?
@@paulwatson5083 If you aren't gonna kill them just don't do lame ass fake out deaths. they don't NEED to kill them but it's such a terrible cliche to do pretend they're dead just to bring them back. and I'm just gonna not respond to the rest of that because I'm lazy.
@@TheGumbyGuy dude One has every bone in their body shattered and the other one makes it with a fakeout that makes sense to her powers and pushes her narrative further Tf are you on about
@paulwatson5083 The only power that girl was ever stated to have was the ability to change her size. The fact she survived, that is nonsensical. You act as though every superhero is a god. The one with duplikate actually does make sense, but that's not really the point of my comment anyway. You're trying to explain why it makes sense for them logically to survive, but my point is just that I don't like the writing decision to do 2 fakeout deaths in one scene because it isn't a trope I like. You don't need to agree with me, but if you're gonna be verbal about your disagreement with me, I'd rather have an actual discussion about what I said than take pot shots at each other.
@@TheGumbyGuy the one that turns small had only been in the dudes body for about 3-5 minutes Doesn't make her a god it makes her lucky Hell she died in the comics They kept her alive for character development Which means much more than dumbass shock value
well idk why people are so angry ı think video is funny and has some points but analyzing a show doesnt help both of them because colin doesnt understand what rsg refering. It is not because colin is dumb it is because they dont think same way it would be fun to see them talk eachother.
Invincible being purposely generic in many aspects to make the parts that aren't generic seem all the more realized and impactful This Guy: just obsoletely no self awareness about how cliché it is
I realized the other day that the plot isn’t just the idea of a super cool thing that unfolds but it’s the consequence of the decisions your characters make based on their personalities. If you don’t have any clue what your character's personality is then your story is going to crash and burn cause your characters aren’t well thought out. What’s cancerous is that I think a lot of people don’t even realize this like I shamefully didn’t before and it’s just cause we have tons of stories that have these fundamental issues.
Like he knows what he’s talking about when he said school doesn’t teach critical thinking or the part where he said “I’m not critiquing Invincible, I’m reviewing it”? That actually made me die laughing because of how nonsensical it is.
@@СтефаноНачев …..Are you seriously asking me that question? You telling me you never had to use critical thinking in order to do Math, Reading or anything? You mean to say school is terrible at what it’s supposed to do?
Gonna be honest, I haven't watched Invincible yet and I think I might like all the character stuff even if it's barebones, but I love these reviews and how willing you are to stick by and defend your opinion. Also it's just super entertaining hearing you talk about media. You might've had to become terminally online, but the passion is still 100% palpable in your videos.
@@СтефаноНачев yes that was his point that's why he referred to the show as a whole and never once specified he was talking about season 1 like he did when talking about invincible
oof this comment section smells of soy Season 2 writing ranges from generic CW to narrarive torture. Lovers having identical conversations about each other in parallel. Cyborg dude resolves his inner conflict by just meeting a dude in similar situation. A prick getting beaten up suddenly gets him self-conscious. Grandpa told Deb she has been a strong person throughout the marriage because this way we will surely buy that. She disposes the books the moment we discover they are important, oh and that doesn't pay off anyway. A "demons of the past" disposable villain motivated by irrational ptsd. A man responsible for the global security can't explain the prime hero the real prospects of his infantile "college, dentist" preference. The prime hero gets an ultimatum from an unstoppable global threat and just ignores it, insisting on that "college, dentist". Oh and btw Eve loves him smh idk just swallow that. Oh and sheer lack of competence every character has is beyond unrealistic, it just obviously moves the plot forward. Insufferable checkbox filler Amber got nerfed and became just a filler. An ogre girl is so witty and has it all figured out and has fine social skills but can't be bothered to explain concept of personal boundaries to her clueless ex-android boyfriend. Who cares if she is always right anyway? I hated Mark so much I wanted him to lose as he himself does everything to lose - but the plot protects him from his own reality. His biggest loss due to his flaws is... Killing a villain. Bravo. Writing is so corporate and lazy I dream about viltrumites' easy win over this bunch of lost causes. No, RSG, art is not entirely subjective, and this one objectively fails at its goals
Hello! I think (with multiple video proof, lol), that you read comments. I really appreciate it. You do bring objectively valid points. But if before I was kinda bored watching side-plots in invincible season 1 and disappointed in the last episodes of season 2, I still liked the artistic intent behind all that, looking at the show purely as an adaptation of another medium, not really thinking about it being a show on its own. Therefore I just didn't notice most of the dumb things happening (for example - the lack of urgency in portal scene. I just thought that "the wacky multiverse adventures" were what they wanted to show from the beginning and I was simply enjoying the ride. I think I was looking at it from the point of "what the author tried to show", not really thinking about what actually was happening). And you ruined all of that for me. Damn, I feel betrayed. It's eyeopening and extremely sad, that even if the artists intent sounds good and they show it exactly with minor tweaks, the end product is still bad somehow after all! About artistic intent: there you go, a video idea! (forgive me father for I have sinned of telling the other person to do what I'm too lazy to). In minions: the rise of Gru there were two separate movies mish-mashed into a single one. One is a prequel about Gru becoming a supervillain (feels like it was the original idea for this film). And the other movie is "Minions 2" (feels like it never got a finished script. It just is compiled out of random quests.) And "the Gru part" has all the points of a real film (the mentor part was a whole movie), but it speedruns those points. While the "minions" plotline is completely disconnected (and bad, lol). So, what I'm trying to say: there was an awesome artistic intent behind it and I could clearly see two scripts behind all the layers of fluff -- one is a great story about Gru, and other is a corporate minion-money-grub story. In contrast to Invincible, the artistic intent here is ruined, and I could easily see why the film was bad. Sorry for making you think about minions 2 again.
It's perfectly fine. RSG mentioned it a lot in this video. First of all - media is subjective and you can have fun with whatever you want. Secondly, Invincible isn't a god awful show, it's just flawed at different aspects, that don't even take away too much from awesome ideas this show has. And it's even more healthy that you consider different opinions while honoring your own.
The one scene with amber talking to eve and mark talking to the suit guy I found to be enjoyable. I wasn't leaning in my seat but it had my attention and it was just interesting to watch in my opinion. I agree with a lot of what you said about the show though. The super speed not being used, side plots, horrible animation, and a lot of it just makes me not want to watch the show but when it comes to those actual good plot lines where i'm somewhat engaged then that's what kept me watching season 2 and onward. I think its fair to not like and to like the show and I have my own issues with it and my enjoyment with it as well.
I'm suprised that you didn't mention that comments that agreed with you also got blasted by the hyperdefensive fanboys. I mentioned the long list of subplots that were poorly written and didn't add anything to the greater plot and people were just like "nuh-uh" Admitely, I kind of acted like an angry redditor in my comment agreeing with you because I was frustrated with the crap pacing and finale of season 2 while people still defend it for some odd reason. I felt like I enjoyed Invincible season 1 back in 2021 at first and I realized why. It just wasn't the same crap the MCU and DCEU was/has been doing which is why I liked it. I still think season 1 is pretty good despite its flaws. But season 2 truly is just 3/10 crap.
32:02 do it man, leave this invinvible shit behind, i know it's upsetting getting all the backlash from absolute redditors who can't deal with their favorite fictional character getting criticized but these people clearly have their mind set and they don't want to hear criticism, you are talking with a brick wall
@@Santiago.V7 he never said that colin took his clips out of context and he explained why he is a huge manchild which is true because just like you, you got incredibly butthurt about an opinion about the series, did you even watch the video the video literally talks about your behavior
That meta animation joke was trying to do what the comic did with how it sometimes cut corners reusing the art but the art was good looking atleast. If you're gonna have lazy animation atleast have the character art look good. They dont even keep it consistent in season 1 the ear shape was inconsistent and they scrapped that ear design entirely for season 2
just cus you move fast dont mean you think fast, tbh i think mark has fast thinking. Also yea he got lucky brain man opened the portal and happened to trip up so he could get killed. litterally only reason he died and its why i want to go read the comics to see what happened differently
Also u insult ur audience too much and are very obviously being intentionally provocative I don’t mind you being provocative (YMS and Dunkey are and you like both of them) but I think u should also admit it better
Also, I’m basically incapable of telling what qualifies as “bad dialogue” and I imagine a lot of other people are as well If someone is either less aware/more resistant to the negative effects of “bad dialogue”, I think it’s kinda unfair to just insist that they’re “manchildren” for not really understanding your criticisms
I’ll put this a better way You seem like you really, really don’t like when things are unsubtle and when dialogue is unnatural Therefore, you obviously will not like anime I care very little about that. Sure, having great dialogue can be a plus, but I’m not going to like an anime less for having over the top acting I remember you used a shot of the Reiner and Bertoldt betrayal scene from Attack on Titan in a criticism of anime being unsubtle. And I guess I can see the complaint, but in my mind’s eye, I genuinely cannot imagine watching that scene and having that negatively impact my opinion on it AT ALL. Imo, that scene is basically 100% flawless (outside of the CGI colossal Titan lol)
Also just gunna come out and say that I don't mind if this is the same seventh video like you've described toward the end of this. Mostly because I find you roasting invincible fans and comment sections entertaining and funny; same goes for similar videos in the past like the speedster one. I wont lie that yes, doing the same video again is a little tedious and you should be better than that. but I also didn't dislike what I watched.
I think most of the problems you talk about stem from the comics and how closely the show sticks to them. Specifically with the random filler story lines.
I think the main fault of the show is that the comics span an enormous amount of time, and show way too much information which would be near impossible to fit in 2 seasons with 10-12 episodes each.
you aint slick replying to yourself little bro, and there's no need to be retarded just because someone doesn't like the cringey shit you like doesn't mean their bating you
what kinda hallucination was that opening bro
I genuinely couldn’t figure out what happened then lol
Bro has stage 5 Nonmanchild.
the manchild doctors hooking him up with the ea play insecure support ventilator
My problem with RSG is that he almost never shows things he actually likes and is soooo pretentious, jokingly or not.
He's one of those channels that's basically just a rage bait it feels like since he's never doing anything positive or taking things seriously. And whenever he is seemingly being positive or trying to be serious it always feels so sarcastic and not genuine at all.
He just never seems like he can have a genuine conversation since he's always filing his videos with tasteless jokes, complaining, mocking, dumb voices and attempts to try to be funny.
He never gives real criticisms on how the things he complains about so much can be better. Not to mention the fact he just insults his own audience a lot. Like he genuinely acts like he can never be wrong and there really is no self-awareness.
Yes I did make a long-ass yapping session of a comment that I sectioned off, but that's only so you people can read it easily.
Now don't get this wrong I actually have watched RSG for a while and even like some of his videos since I think they're funny. But I'm not going to lie Colin has obliterated you and really pointed out your flaws.
You act like you're never wrong, never take things seriously interest in salt everything and are so overly pretentious and negative.
@@UltraIDDQD6DOOM Dude you might actually suffer from retardation so i wont judge you too harshly. RSG has stated plenty of times when he has been wrong, for example in his rdr1 video. And he has praised kung fu pnada 1 so he gives positive feedback sometimes.
You’re yappin bro
@@ericallen8614 yeah, and?
@@sparrowanonword
Just one question: what is “bad writing” to you or are you just gonna insult me
Genuine on the question though
Matter of fact what is good writing
Well he did say in his Invincible season two review that Kung-Fu Panda is thought provoking. I had to double take when I heard it
I think it's obvious that he's referring to crappy character development and the nonsensical progression of the story. Also inconsistencies in the story among other things.
@@makeitquick3998The character progression is near perfect, and most examples he gives literally just show he has no comprehension skills. List major problems with character progression.
I knew as soon as i saw the title that this would be a response to Colin's video.
Real I was about to ask RSG 2 if he was gonna make a video about it
He already put this on his community posts🙏🏾
Same, i was waiting for it since i saw that video lol
i will never understand why people think that liking something and admitting that it has flaws or things that can be improved upon are mutually exclusive concepts. there are so many stories i love in spite of their flaws or missed opportunities when it came to their writing and the complexity/artistry of their writing. your favorite story doesn't need to be this literary masterpiece that everyone in schools across the world will study for the next few centuries.
@@dylanhudec979I doubt even a blind man would miss the point this hard.
@@dylanhudec979 congratulations. you're one of the man babies he was addressing in this video if that's what you took away from my comment. enjoy being a clown
@@dylanhudec979you are literally an example of the point in the video
@@ursidae97 he did admit it had good elements tho that's just what he did through the start of the video. and of course, nobody is making him talk about invincible nobody is claiming anybody is he just wants too. it seems much more to me like you're upset he disagrees with you, and you want him to stop.
@ursidae97 timestamp? I watched the video a while ago every detail isn't exactly fresh in my mind.
Please PLEASE keep making videos so I don't feel like a psycho the next time I have to hear my coworkers takes on these shows. You are literally curing my mental psychosis.
I agree with most of what you present in this video, except for the labeling of your detractors with the reductive ad hominem of "manchild". That in itself is a failure in argumentation.
How do you call someone who’s entire argument is ,,L take bruh”
@@cactuscam913 except there is meaning behind it and he explains his points, for example the battle between Invincible and Levi for him is without tension, because Invincible can just use his super speed and punch him before he can even react, but he doesn’t
@@СтефаноНачевdid you miss the part where Levi said he got physical enhancement? Mark only overpowered after he got a rage boost.
@@СтефаноНачевnot to mention he does use his super speed when he’s sent into the dinosaur dimension and Levi reacts due to the physical enhancements he received, we even see mark is disoriented due to how fast he was going when he hit the ground
good point, it does seem a tad mean, but he does have a point with some people taking his opinions too seriously, although some look like trolls.
Bro thinks he is Arthur Morgan
I thought about it, and I noticed how you're a bit of a hypocrite. You go on and make a full on 30 min video (not to mention your other vids where you talk about your haters) on why these guys are manchildren, and while you might be right to some degree, the fact that you can't just ignore them and accept the fact that there will always be someone who disagrees shows how you can't move on. Who cares if some kid says "never let bro cook again"? Ignore them, and focus more on better things. I understand why you dislike this behavior, but you don't need to make a 30 min video to explain that to us.
TL;DR It's ok to not like haters, but you don't need to hate on them back for 30 minutes straight. Just ignore them.
You're right. I just wanted to go all out for my last time making a video like this
This guy spent two whole videos showing how he clearly doesnt understand invincible 😭😭
The fact that you think that is hilarious 😆
Top tear fall back, he doesn’t understand. Are you an EMO that says that mom doesn’t understand you
Bro, the show isn't that deep. There isn't much you need to "understand" about invincible.
L take
So do you have an argument or what?
@@dudecuzynot555 Does he?
27:49 if you can destroy the invincible hill your powerscaling must be pretty high
I feel as though you'd hate Avatar the Last airbender
He should def make a video on it. Its highly praised and I think its very good but simple. Idk what he would think
Which one? if it's the cartoon I doubt he'd hate it cause that show was perfect but if it's the Netflix series that show is complete bullshit
@@theboyofsteel528 I think he means the cartoon
we know why colin doesn't know what good writing is, he's never played Game of the year super mario bros. 2
fair enough if the side stuff isn't interesting, i love it. invincible feels like it gets deserved praise but the animation gets way too easy of a slide
No offence but why didn't you agree on live confrontation with that spiderman youtuber?
Because subjective discourse at the end of the day is 99% of the time boring and thoughtless, and judging by C0lin's response, the live debate would clearly be in bad faith.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I personally like Invincible. While I agree the animation has big problems, the music is just there and most of the writing is meh but I really enjoy the direction of the story.
I think some of the side plots are interesting or ant least good enough to not skip through and they make the world feel bigger more lived in but some of them are just bad. The sequid storyline was the worst in my opinion and nothing interesting happens with it later in the comics. The best side story in my opinion was the one with titan but even then I still get why other people would consider it boring.
The main story is the best part and so far in the show it’s been minimal, I think what hurts the most to me is knowing how much better the story gets later on in the comic. There are less boring side plots and some actually great ones, the main story gets more focus and Mark becomes a better character and is way more compelling and interesting.
After thinking about it, I 100% understand and somewhat agree all of your points, I can’t completely explain it but I still like the show for what it is, 6/10.
Ironic consider he actively argued against people like you in his other two invincible videos and calls fans of the show idiots
@Iianator no, he argued against people who blatantly called him wrong and gave no explanation. People who just got offended that he didn't like what they liked. This comment here respects what RSG says, while disagreeing, but being respectful in having a different opinion because of their different perspective. I can genuinely see why RSG respects these kinds of people over the man-children who just rage
@@neptuned7937 "gave no explanation" A whole ass video, basic questions to simple mistakes he made, the fact that he's made so many videos now on the same stuff that they've already argued and just got insulted or ignored? Hell not giving an explanation is what HE does just showing a clip and saying it's an example of bad writing with no explanation as to why
@Iianator a small clip of good/bad writing shouldn't need a whole explanation. It's pretty easy to tell most of the times when a movie or show is just spelling everything out for you and when characters just aren't interesting or contradict themselves. Good writing is subtle, does what it needs to do and nothing more, nothing less. Do you need a whole explanation for every 3 second clip you see?
@@neptuned7937 Except it wasn't that, it was just clips that he showed with no understanding of the character or actual nitpicks. "Debbie saying what happened is bad writing and exposition" Her being surprised and basically tldr'ing it with her own perspective? "The comedy isn't good" 2 jokes from Rex Splode who we know is not an emotional guy using awkward humour to lighten the mood
You have to be one of the most unserious people ever
Maybe one day my boy will enjoy an anime but if he doesn't who give a shit bc we can disagree, we aren't man children on reddit/discord with inferiority complexes
Atleast he liked Cowboy Bebop and will give it a chance
Indeed, if we really were man-children who cant stand other opinions then we wouldn't be coming back 😐
31:21 bros writing double entendres 😭🙏
As someone who has vastly different opinions on something as popular as Hazbin Hotel… I can understand it.
I hate your takes but I respect it 😂
Hazbin Hotel is kinda mid. Music and voice acting is fantastic but the story is borderline incoherent
That Juvenile nonsense plays out like fanfiction written by a mentally unsound young adult, it's just bad.
@@buzter8135 people say stuff like “Hazbin would’ve been better if it had more episodes.”
Look at Helluva Boss. They can have as MANY episodes as they like and yet it still has shit pacing, terrible villains and god-awful world building. Hazbin is just an extension of that.
Brother no one is arguing that invincible is some kind of high brow deep cut writing. But things don't need that to be good. Invincible is simple, but it is good at being simple and does a good job at roping you in. It is fine to say you don't like invincible but to call it objectively bad is overkill. Here for example, it is clear you like red dead redemption 2, yes red dead redemption 2 has a very good story but it is one of the only games I would never replay because it is slow. I would say that I enjoyed the game but I like other games with "worse" stories more because they are good at doing what they do.
Actually yeah people are arguing that not even memeing
Here's a tip for everyone: If you don't like media you enjoy getting dunked on, maybe don't watch videos that are obviously negative??
However I personally think you SHOULD watch negative reviews of things you like, because it can give you a new perspective on it and make you appreciate it even more
Just because people don't like something you do, doesn't mean you should feel bad for liking it, and vice versa
True, unless they are nitpicking because in that case they are just hating for the sake of hating
@@The_revenger69
Even if some people just hate for the sake of hating, it doesn't mean you should automatically assume everyone is just because they dislike something you like
Hear them out first, it'll be obvious if they actually bothered to get through it or if they're just nitpicking
exactly like he actually makes very valid points even if i generally disagree that the show's bad. this isn't one of those videos where they just throw around insults for no reason and i'm shocked it has such a bad reception
I found invincible entertaining even if its animation was whack at times and its plot lines alright at best. It's just funny how liking something that has flaws is some alien concept to these people and they'd rather take the idea that it's absolute cinema to their grave
watching the intro while coming down from ketamine is an extreme sport
I actually like the robot clone scene a lot. What makes it work for me is that Rudy very clearly knew going in that there is no actual 'coin flip', just a new mind separate from the original, IE he himself was never going to live in a normal body. But he goes through with it anyway and willingly gives his life so that his clone could experience what he could not. And what makes it doubly work is that the clone doesn't wallow in guilt, he immediately accepts the original's call for him to live life to the fullest and doesn't look back once. They could have easily fucked it up by having the new Rudy go through a season-long boring ass arc about overcoming the guilt, but they didn't, because that wouldn't be in character. It was a surprisingly moving scene for such a boring sideplot.
if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
If this show came out during the prime of superhero media, I don’t think people would think of it as good as they do right now. The competition right now is so low that people just want to believe that the show is good.
The show does have strong points though, it will not be all good but rather worthwhile for certain moments.
I respect all of your takes king. But wtf stop talking down on anime it make me sad :(
title irony
I'm gonna assume most of these "man children" are actual children
I think you have articulated your points very nicely in this video, but I do have to point out that you comparing the end of invincible season 2 with the end of the boys season 1 is unfair. In invincible, this whole sequence is taking straight up from the comics (to a surprising level too) and the invincible comics have been concluded a long time ago, while the boys show has only been out there in recent memory. I also wouldn't think that the boys riped that idea of invincible, I believe that it's just a coincident, and that both writing teams came up with the same idea on there own.
Also the story of the boys show is very different from the comics. And such a scene didn't exact in the comics.
@@macvadda2318 he admitted to enjoy center thing in the show. And I the only thing I thought deserving of a real call out is his unfair comparing of the boys season 1 ending with invincible season 2 ending.
@@Kaijuenjoyer-nv7qn I see what you mean by that. But I don't know the guy personally or anything. I just thought he had something critical to say about the show, like calling out the weaker animations in some certain points in the show. And I think he did nicely is all. But I really wouldn't die on that hill or anything like that.
damn that opening was like something out of Ralph The Movie Maker type stuff.
Oh my god, you actually responded to my comment I'm surprised, don't get me wrong you did make some good points in the previous video and season 2 did have some flaws and some scene's did drag on for way too long like the Amber and Mark scene's no show Is perfect after all it's just how you explain it that was the problem , maby if you went more in depth and elaborated a bit more than you would have less angry comments plus I had a long day and was very tired I also can’t stand tiktok and believe it's a waste of time.
It's okay brother you actually seem mature so I respect you
the goat has graced us with a 30 minute video, my week has been made
Thats not ridiculous, thats not ridiculous to say that.
Donkey 😂😂
glazing behavior, change and grow as a person
You mean your goat who said “I’m not critiquing Invincible, I’m reviewing it”? Care to explain to me how that makes any sense without me dying of laughter?
@@jaxxpool9630 criticising - This pizza is bad, because of this and this
reviewing - I don’t like this pizza, because of this and this
Do you see the difference?
I don’t have the same opinion as you on invincible. But to me I still think it’s a great story definitely not perfect but pretty good. I respect your opinion and this was a good video.
Moral of the story: opinions are opinions are opinions. No one can agree on everything.
Agree
@@redreploid1713 You can’t change em all.
@@dylanhudec979Not his
@@dylanhudec979I actually love Invincible, but I have come to a realization that RSG 2 will never like the show. His points are very flawed, but why would I waste my time telling him what makes Invincible great if he won’t budge?
@@DaWhisper I, too, have watched Colin’s video. He actually cooked him both times, but my point is that RSG 2 will never change his opinion for the time being.
I will prepare to eat dookie if he changes his mind on the entire show, though.
I like invincible and the thumbnail is funny as hell.
When people say "Art is subjective" what I think people really mean is that what we interpret from the artist's intention is subjective, but using that as a defense is not useful at all. Liking a piece of art will always be a subjective thing, and nobody can take that away from anyone else. I love TASM2. I also agree that TASM2 is a poorly written story. Those two things can coexist, otherwise the term "so bad it's good" wouldn't hold much meaning if the quality is nebulous and just up to someone. Having standards for storytelling quality is important, and having these standards isn't guaranteed to make a story dull. There's also a case to be made for words and how we use them, which brings me to my next point:
There is a difference between excitement and fun. I had fun with Dune Part 1 while many people found it boring. Excitement would be how much action is in a movie. For example a movie like John Wick is exciting, because of all the action. But whether someone has fun with it or not will be completely subjective, and that is completely fine. At first glance, separating the words "fun" and "exciting" and assigning the meaning objective and subjective onto them sounds like a futile thing considering they're synonymous, but this strategy is used to properly determine what people mean in a useful manner by explaining what people mean when they say something was boring and describe why it'd be a detriment.
As a writer, I find it useful when assessing media quality, avoiding plot holes, contrivances, inconsistent characterization and worldbuilding, because this challenges me to make my story as interesting and exciting as possible, while trying to keep the audience's interest. It's a daunting task, but it's rewarding, especially when you know for a fact that you crafted a story that has so many things to analyze while also maintaining believability, which is what a lack of problems would provide. I can guarantee that no piece of art will be perfect, nobody is. But abandoning the strive for perfection just because it's too hard or because it's unachievable is a defeatist mindset that I refuse to accept.
Not to say any of these things were argued in this video, but it's something I think is important to keep in mind
i just think that when you watch a show critically, you start noticing the errors and plotholes. if you really want to enjoy shows you have to just turn off your brain and relax
I somewhat agree with you but if you want an interesting show with good value even after you finish it,than turning your brain off doesn’t work
You can do that but some media is made to be analyzed. For example I'd say Age of Fire (a book series about dragon xenofiction) isn't something you can turn your brain off for; you'd probably enjoy it less because of the hearty prose. Though I guess that is meant to be a children's book so I can't say completely.
Rsg2 is right, tho. This video just isn't fire because he's just saying obvious things that a bunch of morons can't understand.
,,turn of your brain and relax” for me is the equivalent of saying ,,eat this apple even tho is rotten”, I can’t relax watching dog water
Turn off your brain? Good idea. I love consooming next product.
I don’t understand the whole, “this stuff doesn’t bother me. I don’t care about other’s opinions” thing if you’re just going to shout insults at messages. It shows that you 100% do care about how people feel. Especially when those feelings are directed towards your takes and your opinions. I much would’ve rather this been a video where you actually tell me why Invincible is a “bad” show with “bad” writing.
Lets hope now that amber is gone, the writters can now focus more on his protagonist for midvincible 3
I think a large part of the vehement defense of this overall mid show is just a symptom of it being trendy right now. If it wasn’t what popped up on Twitter people wouldn’t be so passionate about it.
After all its seasons have run through and we’ve been given a few years to process the show as a whole, I think your criticisms of what we have now may be more widely accepted.
Avatar the Last Airbender ended a decade and a half ago, people still defend it now because its writing actually holds up, not because it’s the trendiest show ever right now.
You made some good points, don’t let the hive mind tell you that you’re not allowed to think for yourself.
This just npc gathering?
Guy's thank you for watching, I love you. I really had to lock in and become chronically online to make this video so I hope you guys enjoyed it. With this and all the future videos I make, they will be entirely for you the individual to judge. No more clap backs. Only thing that matters is that I stay true to what I feel. Thank You
People are so used to trash superhero movies and tv shows that are being made as of late that people just want Invincible to be good, even if it isn’t
This video is actually dogshit, your way of thinking is so upfront and you don’t read behind the lines, everything you criticize about this show is barely even a problem to the normal person, you are just dramatic.
You'll be chronically online for the rest of your life. It's addled your brain too much for this weird glossolalia of a video I've only managed to get 1 minute into before failing to supress the sense that's I've stumbled into banal yootoobe drama and am in the process of shaving off my life into an abyss of pointless garbage to be explained any other way besides you being an arrogant, short fused, drama whore. The description only makes that worse, with the passive aggressive "humility".
You're free to not watch Invincible, free to talk about hating it and free to call the production value unacceptably low I really don't care, but you're not above it or mature at all. Seriously though you're not. This cope video is well above average length for your channel and for what? Proving yourself to stoopids? Sure...
I don’t mind the clap back videos honestly since it’s entertaining and explains your reasoning more.but I trust that whatever video you decide to make will be good no matter what.
First mistake of online community management is making a promise
invincible fumbles a LOT of stuff but complaining that other characters are distracting from Mark isn't really a valid criticism when one of the points of the story is that it's a "reinterpretation" of super hero stories, which very commonly have a wider universe behind them. This larger setting is the reason you find Mark's focus on his stupid selfish girlfriend or his irrelevent college career to be dumb, because it is dumb when there are obviously much bigger fish to fry. The valid criticism would be that these subplots are written like ass and some of the changes from the comic make the story objectively worse, like the drama between Mark and Amber being ruined by her sociopathic manipulation that's NEVER BROUGHT UP AGAIN.
I used to be a man child about people liking interstellar. After this I now know to respect their opinions even if I disagree. Their tales aren’t bad. Thank you.
You don't have to respect someone else's opinion. You can even call their opinion stupid. As long as you know it's an opinion and not a personal attack against you, you're fine.
Hell, most of this video is just him saying, lol your opinions sucks. Ironically calling his detractors man children as he attacks their character.
ngl, if the first season of invincible didn't waste its time getting sidetracked it'd fit perfectly into movie length
my question is, why does the animation look the same as ben 10 when I was a kid. Ive been put off touching the show because of that alone
It's the definition of knit-picking, its not noticeable if you don't *try* to look for it
@@milesharris249 What looks bad looks bad friend. Plus I tend to agree with what he says about most shit so I have no doubt id dislike invincible
@@milesharris249nahhh I love this show but it has some ass animation at times.
@ZAGON117 It's 7.8 out of 10.
Great but not Amazing.
It's not ground breaking like anime, but its the second best that's made in American (Xmen 97 is in first)
@@milesharris249 I'm criticizing American shows as a whole. Very few have passed the Ben 10 stage. Sure higher res but overall the animation has hardly evolved
You're a rare voice bro. Thanks for the video.
Ok at 7:20 the consistent reaction I've seen to him is less "he's underrated" and more "so are they gonna explain who the fuck that was or...?"
There's barely any animation in Invincible: just slideshows and dragging pngs around. The opening sequence of X-Men '97 has better sauce than the entire Invincible
the goat over here reminding us that we are all entitled to an opinion, and just cause we don't agree, don't mean we gotta rip eachother apart for it.
we all got our takes.
@@ursidae97 he isn't ripping people apart for opinions he's ripping people apart for being whiny man children.
@@Ineverbotheredtochangemyname nah if you look how pissy colin and all his fans are it's kinda clear who the people who can't take opinions are. I've had some people trying to argue with me over objective statements because I'm coming from a different opinion so anything I say must automatically be wrong.
@Ineverbotheredtochangemyname I've watched both videos, and I'd say both are overly emotive. Colin was throwing ad hominem insults through the whole video and seemed upset to me.
@Ineverbotheredtochangemyname just realized I had some poor wording in my comment and wanted to clarify when I said "both videos" I meant I watched this RSG2 video and Colin's response video to it not both of Colin's videos. Either way, I just think this whole thing is petty on both sides tbh.
I peeled a banana only to get a lemon :(
I am fully willing to admit that I am woefully inept at evaluating “good writing”, if by “good writing” you mean the dialogue itself
That said, I (subjectively) think you should maybe put a little less stock into it?
I get if it’s literally impossible for you to do so, but otherwise, writing off 99% of anime because you think the dialogue is too blunt or unsubtle is silly
Also, last thing about anime
Anime is partially very loud and different from how most western media is written
However, that doesn’t mean there isn’t anime with “good” dialogue, or at least good in the same sense that Wes Anderson writes good dialogue (not realistic, but still artfully written)
The problem is, most of it is really hard to properly translate over to English in a way that would let you fully appreciate it, since Japanese is so fundamentally different to English
This is about Monogatari btw. I’m entirely speaking about the dialogue, the show has a lot of weird shit and I haven’t even watched it I’m just going off what literally everyone has said about it
Lmaooo this what happens when you don’t go outside
Even though I like invincible.I completely agree with you about how it has lazy and generic writing.
Invincible has cool but lazy ideas with meh execution.something that made me annoyed with the show was when they made that commercial talking about why season 2 was taking so long.the reason why I was annoyed was because it showed incredible animation that was really good(that apparently was animated by a nsfw artist,makes you rethink how slimy the burger was in the commercial)yet instead used the usual trash animation for actually important parts of the show making me dissatisfied with the animation.and the humor is so bad that it almost compares to shit like hazbin hotel.it felt like a massive step down from the first season.
It's always nice to find someone shitting on the stuff that people have, for some unexplainable reason, decided is "good media".
It will never cease to boggle my mind, how people will endlessly shit on stuff like Rings of Power or the new Star Wars show (all terrible media in their own right), and then turn around and heap praise and positive reviews on the utter drivel of shows like Invincible.
Personally, I think it's just the first bit of exposer people have with a piece of media that breaks the usual mould. It pushes just that little bit past the run-of-the-mill superhero content pushed out by Marvel or DC (and makes sure to smear on a ton of gore, so that even the most bone-headed viewer doesn't miss it), to make people think that it's some kind of deep recontextualisation or deconstruction of the genre. So naturally it's going to move a lot of people who otherwise only consume the surface level media and they'll start attaching their identity to it.
28:27-29:30 what song is playing in the background?
battle block theatre level maker music 1 or 2
@@Micheybomber thanks so much dude
17:50 what I exactly said a few days ago in the comments of that video you showed criticizing your take there were people in his comments saying he just likes Spider-Man better but Spider-Man isn’t even supported by anything like the CIA
I'm glad some people agree that Invincible has some really boring elements. I just could not bring myself to finish season two,. I just didnt really get it like everyone else
RSGtiergod
i do like invincible but thats just my view on it. do you like the comics of it bcause some things are just straight out of comics
I am incapable of getting over insecurity unfortunately
13:00
No. Objectivity and subjectivity is not differentiated by weather someone ELSE has those emotions.
Objectivity is something that can be independently assessed. It can be measured. If it fits a defined standard: then it is objective.
Subjectivity is something dependent on a person. In the phrase "I was bored" that subject was YOU.
The phrase "I was objectively bored" is nonsensical, because objective is not a qualifier that can ever applied to a subjective qualifier like "bored".
If you meant that it was objective that you were bored (well duh, there is little reason to doubt that) then you messed up the sentence structure. It would have been "Objectively: I was bored." which is a needless qualifier because it says the same as "I was bored".
Quite frankly it very much appears as an attempt to lend more credibility to your opinion. *Which you should not need to do if your points are valid.* (Which I do not doubt. It is simple to take appart invincible for its many flaws and I don't think you were incapable of doing so correctly. [Correction] I was wrong. Seems like you didn't even do that ... shame)
But I am tired of people missusing "objective" because All it does is give fuel to the "Art analysis is never objective" crowd.
EDIT: Oh and: No the quality of art is not allways exclusively subjective. It has both subjective and objective components.
How well an artform is done can be measured objectively.
What it makes you feel is ofcourse subjective.
The quality of art is a combination of both. The subjective value and the objective execution.
To take an example YOU brought up: The flying scene you refere to when critiquing Invincibles animation: is bad. How it makes you feel, weather you can imagine yourself in that characters shoes, or not, if it excites you: That is subjective. But the animation quality is objectively bad.
Can't wait for him to put this is one of his shitty videos and just ignore whatever you said 😂
Colin comes off as the type of kid in highschool who no one likes cause he says he likes dark humor but all it is just blatant racism and sexism
Or just someone with a different take
@@nikeiyomiuri2728yes he’s someone with a different take but atleast make sense when you say that take.
RSG2 isn't gonna let you hit bro😹
@@MonkeyeditsYT How does he not make sense? At least he points to specific things in and about the show, this guy just says a general statement of what happened in the show then says it's bad, not why or how just that it's bad.
@@MonkeyeditsYT honestly, his take was a lot more in depth into what he liked about the show while this guy’s video was just a bunch of words with no substance, like he’ll explain something he didn’t like and then just not elaborate
YOOO 15:33 CASTLE CRASHERS SHOP THEME W
The animation expressions is a big problem with the show that I don’t see people talk about a lot and I agree a lot with what you said, is like they worried to much on staying on model with a few scenes as exceptions
even though i disagree with you, i really love invincible. im a fan of your philosophy that art is subjective and you don't owe anyone an explanation on why you have a certain opinion. you're just some guy. you're right that just because you happen to be on the internet, it doesn't mean you need to fill the role of other internet people (points of objective truth/analyses etc), i respect that you're a normal guy who just makes videos he wants to.
So he shouldn’t explain why he thinks Invincible is bad in a video that’s meant to be a review of it? The problem isn’t that he doesn’t like Invincible, the problem is he doesn’t elaborate on his points and expects people to just take his word for it. The part where he said “I’m not critiquing Invincible, I’m reviewing it” shows he has no idea what he’s talking about.
to many side stories was definitely a problem for the show. I actually thought wiping out 2 of the members of the guardians of globe and having rex clutch up and win even after getting shot in head was badass and actually made me more interested in him (even though it was ridiculous) but then they brought back the members they killed and made that side plot mean absolutely nothing. even when they managed to make a good side plot, they would just go and ruin it.
Wrong? Why must you kill characters that can have more done with their development
And it quite literally DID help Rex grow so huh?...they're also superheroes do you know how hard it is to kill them?
And ofc there's side stories it's an expansive world wtf did you think you were signing up for?
@@paulwatson5083 If you aren't gonna kill them just don't do lame ass fake out deaths. they don't NEED to kill them but it's such a terrible cliche to do pretend they're dead just to bring them back. and I'm just gonna not respond to the rest of that because I'm lazy.
@@TheGumbyGuy dude
One has every bone in their body shattered and the other one makes it with a fakeout that makes sense to her powers and pushes her narrative further
Tf are you on about
@paulwatson5083 The only power that girl was ever stated to have was the ability to change her size. The fact she survived, that is nonsensical. You act as though every superhero is a god. The one with duplikate actually does make sense, but that's not really the point of my comment anyway. You're trying to explain why it makes sense for them logically to survive, but my point is just that I don't like the writing decision to do 2 fakeout deaths in one scene because it isn't a trope I like. You don't need to agree with me, but if you're gonna be verbal about your disagreement with me, I'd rather have an actual discussion about what I said than take pot shots at each other.
@@TheGumbyGuy the one that turns small had only been in the dudes body for about 3-5 minutes
Doesn't make her a god it makes her lucky
Hell she died in the comics
They kept her alive for character development
Which means much more than dumbass shock value
well idk why people are so angry ı think video is funny and has some points but analyzing a show doesnt help both of them because colin doesnt understand what rsg refering. It is not because colin is dumb it is because they dont think same way it would be fun to see them talk eachother.
Invincible being purposely generic in many aspects to make the parts that aren't generic seem all the more realized and impactful
This Guy: just obsoletely no self awareness about how cliché it is
I realized the other day that the plot isn’t just the idea of a super cool thing that unfolds but it’s the consequence of the decisions your characters make based on their personalities. If you don’t have any clue what your character's personality is then your story is going to crash and burn cause your characters aren’t well thought out. What’s cancerous is that I think a lot of people don’t even realize this like I shamefully didn’t before and it’s just cause we have tons of stories that have these fundamental issues.
nice boneworks ost in the back
Good job taking on the strongest arguments instead of the easiest ones. Proves you know what you’re talking about.
@@dylanhudec979 Are there any specific examples?
Like he knows what he’s talking about when he said school doesn’t teach critical thinking or the part where he said “I’m not critiquing Invincible, I’m reviewing it”? That actually made me die laughing because of how nonsensical it is.
@@jaxxpool9630 tell me in which subject school teaches you critical thinking
@@jaxxpool9630 🤓
@@СтефаноНачев …..Are you seriously asking me that question? You telling me you never had to use critical thinking in order to do Math, Reading or anything? You mean to say school is terrible at what it’s supposed to do?
Gonna be honest, I haven't watched Invincible yet and I think I might like all the character stuff even if it's barebones, but I love these reviews and how willing you are to stick by and defend your opinion. Also it's just super entertaining hearing you talk about media. You might've had to become terminally online, but the passion is still 100% palpable in your videos.
7:35, Memories of green, such a good song
honestly you lost me when you said the boys was unique and fresh. that show is dog after season 1
but yeah invincible does have a lot of problems and could (and should) be better
@@dankuyaokay so you agree it’s unique and fresh in season 1, that was his point
@@СтефаноНачев yes that was his point that's why he referred to the show as a whole and never once specified he was talking about season 1 like he did when talking about invincible
He actually has the same opinion as you
@@nota13xxsweaponsupplier7 fair enough this is the only video I've seen of his
oof this comment section smells of soy
Season 2 writing ranges from generic CW to narrarive torture. Lovers having identical conversations about each other in parallel. Cyborg dude resolves his inner conflict by just meeting a dude in similar situation. A prick getting beaten up suddenly gets him self-conscious. Grandpa told Deb she has been a strong person throughout the marriage because this way we will surely buy that. She disposes the books the moment we discover they are important, oh and that doesn't pay off anyway. A "demons of the past" disposable villain motivated by irrational ptsd. A man responsible for the global security can't explain the prime hero the real prospects of his infantile "college, dentist" preference. The prime hero gets an ultimatum from an unstoppable global threat and just ignores it, insisting on that "college, dentist". Oh and btw Eve loves him smh idk just swallow that. Oh and sheer lack of competence every character has is beyond unrealistic, it just obviously moves the plot forward. Insufferable checkbox filler Amber got nerfed and became just a filler. An ogre girl is so witty and has it all figured out and has fine social skills but can't be bothered to explain concept of personal boundaries to her clueless ex-android boyfriend. Who cares if she is always right anyway?
I hated Mark so much I wanted him to lose as he himself does everything to lose - but the plot protects him from his own reality. His biggest loss due to his flaws is... Killing a villain. Bravo.
Writing is so corporate and lazy I dream about viltrumites' easy win over this bunch of lost causes.
No, RSG, art is not entirely subjective, and this one objectively fails at its goals
Hello! I think (with multiple video proof, lol), that you read comments. I really appreciate it. You do bring objectively valid points. But if before I was kinda bored watching side-plots in invincible season 1 and disappointed in the last episodes of season 2, I still liked the artistic intent behind all that, looking at the show purely as an adaptation of another medium, not really thinking about it being a show on its own. Therefore I just didn't notice most of the dumb things happening (for example - the lack of urgency in portal scene. I just thought that "the wacky multiverse adventures" were what they wanted to show from the beginning and I was simply enjoying the ride. I think I was looking at it from the point of "what the author tried to show", not really thinking about what actually was happening).
And you ruined all of that for me. Damn, I feel betrayed. It's eyeopening and extremely sad, that even if the artists intent sounds good and they show it exactly with minor tweaks, the end product is still bad somehow after all!
About artistic intent: there you go, a video idea! (forgive me father for I have sinned of telling the other person to do what I'm too lazy to).
In minions: the rise of Gru there were two separate movies mish-mashed into a single one. One is a prequel about Gru becoming a supervillain (feels like it was the original idea for this film). And the other movie is "Minions 2" (feels like it never got a finished script. It just is compiled out of random quests.) And "the Gru part" has all the points of a real film (the mentor part was a whole movie), but it speedruns those points. While the "minions" plotline is completely disconnected (and bad, lol).
So, what I'm trying to say: there was an awesome artistic intent behind it and I could clearly see two scripts behind all the layers of fluff -- one is a great story about Gru, and other is a corporate minion-money-grub story.
In contrast to Invincible, the artistic intent here is ruined, and I could easily see why the film was bad.
Sorry for making you think about minions 2 again.
Legendary clapback
the goat makes his appearance. keep the RAG hate strong bro.
@@Reseptics Lmaooo how are you always finding me bro
@@SpareMango great minds think alike
Alternate title: "RSG 2 VS Nerds: The Short Film".
When he Impersonates someone its so funny 😂 23:25
Is it ok for me to agree with 90% of what you’re saying and still really like the show or am I weird?
It's perfectly fine. RSG mentioned it a lot in this video. First of all - media is subjective and you can have fun with whatever you want. Secondly, Invincible isn't a god awful show, it's just flawed at different aspects, that don't even take away too much from awesome ideas this show has.
And it's even more healthy that you consider different opinions while honoring your own.
love a good clapback
1 sec in and I 100% agree
Glazing
@@nota13xxsweaponsupplier7that’s called agreeing not glazing you goofy💀
@@Number-1-ball-blast-player nuh huh it’s called glazing.
@@nota13xxsweaponsupplier7 no your just not smart enough to understand the meaning of what glazing actually means
@@Number-1-ball-blast-player Nah your glazing, don’t talk to me d1 rider.
The one scene with amber talking to eve and mark talking to the suit guy I found to be enjoyable. I wasn't leaning in my seat but it had my attention and it was just interesting to watch in my opinion. I agree with a lot of what you said about the show though. The super speed not being used, side plots, horrible animation, and a lot of it just makes me not want to watch the show but when it comes to those actual good plot lines where i'm somewhat engaged then that's what kept me watching season 2 and onward. I think its fair to not like and to like the show and I have my own issues with it and my enjoyment with it as well.
I'm suprised that you didn't mention that comments that agreed with you also got blasted by the hyperdefensive fanboys. I mentioned the long list of subplots that were poorly written and didn't add anything to the greater plot and people were just like "nuh-uh" Admitely, I kind of acted like an angry redditor in my comment agreeing with you because I was frustrated with the crap pacing and finale of season 2 while people still defend it for some odd reason.
I felt like I enjoyed Invincible season 1 back in 2021 at first and I realized why. It just wasn't the same crap the MCU and DCEU was/has been doing which is why I liked it. I still think season 1 is pretty good despite its flaws. But season 2 truly is just 3/10 crap.
Nigga your lying. People literally said not everything gets thrown out it's for later stuff but you choose to like like RSG 2
You are a stupid person's idea of a smart person
32:02 do it man, leave this invinvible shit behind, i know it's upsetting getting all the backlash from absolute redditors who can't deal with their favorite fictional character getting criticized but these people clearly have their mind set and they don't want to hear criticism, you are talking with a brick wall
@@Santiago.V7 not really but aight
@@Santiago.V7 he never said that colin took his clips out of context and he explained why he is a huge manchild which is true because just like you, you got incredibly butthurt about an opinion about the series, did you even watch the video the video literally talks about your behavior
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I would love to see you make a vid on the subject of writing because you seem pretty passion about it love you vid btw❤❤
That meta animation joke was trying to do what the comic did with how it sometimes cut corners reusing the art but the art was good looking atleast. If you're gonna have lazy animation atleast have the character art look good. They dont even keep it consistent in season 1 the ear shape was inconsistent and they scrapped that ear design entirely for season 2
i dont glaze the show i just like some parts of it
RSG You are a great critic even if your takes may be questionable you need reminding me that opinions exist. Thank you :)
just cus you move fast dont mean you think fast, tbh i think mark has fast thinking. Also yea he got lucky brain man opened the portal and happened to trip up so he could get killed. litterally only reason he died and its why i want to go read the comics to see what happened differently
Spolier alert
That's exactly what happened in the comics too
I would like to know what you actually like in the superhero genre /gen
U are too harsh even tho I think a lot of your opinions are reasonable
Also u insult ur audience too much and are very obviously being intentionally provocative
I don’t mind you being provocative (YMS and Dunkey are and you like both of them) but I think u should also admit it better
Also, I’m basically incapable of telling what qualifies as “bad dialogue” and I imagine a lot of other people are as well
If someone is either less aware/more resistant to the negative effects of “bad dialogue”, I think it’s kinda unfair to just insist that they’re “manchildren” for not really understanding your criticisms
I’ll put this a better way
You seem like you really, really don’t like when things are unsubtle and when dialogue is unnatural
Therefore, you obviously will not like anime
I care very little about that. Sure, having great dialogue can be a plus, but I’m not going to like an anime less for having over the top acting
I remember you used a shot of the Reiner and Bertoldt betrayal scene from Attack on Titan in a criticism of anime being unsubtle. And I guess I can see the complaint, but in my mind’s eye, I genuinely cannot imagine watching that scene and having that negatively impact my opinion on it AT ALL. Imo, that scene is basically 100% flawless (outside of the CGI colossal Titan lol)
Also just gunna come out and say that I don't mind if this is the same seventh video like you've described toward the end of this. Mostly because I find you roasting invincible fans and comment sections entertaining and funny; same goes for similar videos in the past like the speedster one. I wont lie that yes, doing the same video again is a little tedious and you should be better than that. but I also didn't dislike what I watched.
Invincible died when amber was introduced. Season 2 with the meta humour and bad animation burried it 6ft under
I think most of the problems you talk about stem from the comics and how closely the show sticks to them. Specifically with the random filler story lines.
Ig that makes sense. I never read the comics, but I've heard they aren't great. I think if they focus on the main plot, I'll enjoy the show more.
I think the main fault of the show is that the comics span an enormous amount of time, and show way too much information which would be near impossible to fit in 2 seasons with 10-12 episodes each.
Insane bait bro you almost had me
The critical thinking rant sold it bro
you aint slick replying to yourself little bro, and there's no need to be retarded just because someone doesn't like the cringey shit you like doesn't mean their bating you
People need to learn to agree to disagree i love invincible both the comic and the show but it has problems
No way this gotta be a dream rsg2 uploaded a 30 minute video.