Ketamine Depression Treatment - Actify Neurotherapies Deep Dive - Steve Levine, MD
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2019
- How did this happen? Ketamine, previously only known as a club drug, is now known as a new method for treating severe depression. Not only that, but it is seen as potentially being the most significant breakthrough in treating depression in decades. Dr. Steve Levine, Founder of Actify Neurotherapies, explains how this transformation has happened, how ketamine works in the brain, its impact, and the future of this treatment. He also shares a couple case studies that illustrate why people are asking for this treatment and why Actify Neurotherapies has now grown to 9 locations in 8 states.
Check out our shorter Spaces segment with Dr. Levine here: • Ketamine Treatment for...
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In this deep dive, you will learn …
Introduction and background (0:18)
- Created Actify Neurotherapies in 2011
- Had a traditional training in psychology
- Started as a psychiatrist and grew frustrated with his prescription options
His discovery of ketamine as a treatment option (2:43)
- Saw a patient who had tried everything to treat depression and found that her mood was enhanced only with medicines that contained dextromethorphan
- Searched for research-based evidence that it helps depression
- At the same time, research around Ketamine was developing and demonstrating its efficacy
- He consulted with anesthesiologists to see if it was dangerous and then started a program at a hospital, which then expanded to multiple locations
How does ketamine work (8:46)
- It goes a lot of places and does a lot of things which is different than the throwing a dart approach psychiatrists take in prescribing other drugs
- Broad spray pattern means it is more likely to hit the right pathway
- Binds to a receptor, produces BDNF, heals the brain and allows it to learn new things in a more efficient way
- Great for cognitive behavioral therapy
- Has anti-inflammatory and immune-modulating properties
- Has activity at classical receptor targets of serotonin, norepinephrine, dopamine
What can a patient expect (13:52)
- Full consultation before determining this is the right approach
- 40- minute IV, followed by 40-45 minutes of recovery, then a meeting with the doctor
- Three treatments in the first week, two in the second, once per week for the next few weeks, then waiting two weeks between treatments, then three, then hopefully a month
- Some feeling patients feel: intoxication, floaty sensation, mind being disconnected from body, enhancement of perception, heightened senses
The impacts of treatment (18:56)
- The language people use to describe their experiences
- How their depression has changed
- Disconnection from the trauma, which is the goal
- Does not work for everyone, but many have a profound experience that changes them
- Brain is more receptive to new learnings
Case studies (25:36)
- Successful radio DJ from Denver
- Family whose son was treated
The future of this treatment (30:20)
- Current perception vs potential future perception
- Forcing innovation and a movement back to neurosciences
- Additional implications for ketamine
Exam room and process (36:29)
- Chronological explanation of the process
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8 treatments in (6 initial and 2 maintenance) and to say my life is right side up again is an understatement. 34 years as a city firefighter and paramedic has slowly been filling me with grief. Like boiling a frog I didn’t see what a toll this was having on my family and me. I was sad, angry then guilty about my outbursts and this turned into seeing the only way forward was an end. Suicide. Ketamine Treatment Center of Denver (I’m not getting paid) saved my life! Everyday I am feeling better and thinking more clearly. The continued research of this actually “healing” the damage with the glutamate is just a tiny glimpse into this. Is it a miracle? For me loving to be back to work helping people and retiring soon, yep that is a miracle.
Wow...I've been suffering with Major Depressive Disorder for over 30 years...I may still have hope!
@@Leo-jw4ex do it! Nothing to lose but time.
How wasn your experience with ketamine.. was it helpful.. has it any side effects.. plz let me know..how long it takes to cure depression..i am suffering from depression for four years
@@ahmedfraz8324como vas con tu depresión no hablo inglés
Was your depression from PTSD on your job or did you have preexisting depression?
This dude is amazingly intelligent and a REAL doctor! What a good time to be alive
_Yeah you wrote this last year lol_
Idk if he’s a real doctor
OMG, a doctor who elicits information from their clients! And listens to their answers, too! Unicorn! ;~)
This is one of the most widely anesthetics, it deserves some respect. It's the best to handle depression and many more in no time. Quality also matters, get it taphpharma.com/shop/buy-ketamine-hcl-powder/
I have undergone ketamine infusions. It works. This doctor is amazing and his compassion is noteworthy.
This treatment saved my life... truly! My first treatment, I experienced living again.
Welcome Karen I have been doing treatments since June 2019 and I just want to say the miracles have come and still coming. I was suicide or ketamine I am one who antidepressants did not work and I started on Prozac when in it was the answer. They help some but for me they didnt PTSD and Major Depression Disorder. And recovering from suicide. So it gets better it does. I still have my days but no suicidal ideations with a plan since i started I am on maintenance now. It is great to have the horrible pain of this depression lifted after every treatment i still am getting better.
So excited I get my first treatment done today
Karen Lowe did you have to pay out of pocket so glad you got better 💕💕
Sheena McGuinness can u update hope it worked 🤗
Eileen Doherty I’m pressed for time I can write more later but I’ll tell you for now and short that as far as depression goes I had a really bad fatigue and it is almost nonexistent. I’m on my sixth treatment of six I just have to schedule my last one when I’m ready... my last “experience” was two days ago..as of right now in this very moment I was just painting my house which let’s put it this way... I started this project a year ago and haven’t felt the motivation to finish until the past couple of weeks...I have to cut this short but my only concern is the longevity of this new state of mind and it is very subtle but anything feels 1 million times better than being completely and utterly miserable
Ketamine has literally saved my life! I have nerve damage and chronic pain which lead to depression it has helped with both.
How wasn your experience with ketamine.. was it helpful.. has it any side effects.. plz let me know..how long it takes to cure depression..i am suffering from depression for four years
@@ahmedfraz8324 I will say that in conjunction with my meds have helped me alot. I also have bpd so I do therepy for that. It's not a quick fix with depression it took months and proper dosing. But I can say I still suffer from depression/anxiety but after my second visit the suicidal thoughts no longer come to mind. For me that is the biggest issue I battled. My will or want to die is no longer there.
Considering what I’ve been going through.. I can’t thank you enough for this. Even if it doesn’t work for me, it’s relieving to know that there are others who have found relief, and hopefully others still who will.
❤❤❤
This treatment has helped me more then i can say!
I’m starting my 6 dose ketamine therapy in Oct 19. Hearing that it has helped you gives me hope!
What dose were you on ?
@@lotusbloom7750 i started at a low dose and found that I get the best results at 125mg
Jennifer Free thank you for your reply 🙏🙏🙏 I went in hospital for a 3 night stay at 4mg and it helped me dramatically along side with other procedures for my crps but I found it helped with my depression also but my dose was a lot lower than what I’ve seen here
So was wondering if anyone else had iv transfusions at that dose as an hospital stay
Because you're addicted?
I certainly wish Dr Levine would become my therapist! He is direct and understandable!
How you doing now have you tried ketamine?
Best video I've seen about ketamine! Thank you!
This is brilliant and exciting!
I have been suffering with depression for over 10 years and 2 years with suicide ideation. We definitely need to turn to new ways of utilizing medicine since we haven't had any big breakthroughs in depression medication in over 10 years. Western science has been turning to plants outside our country to heal people, and also going into the past to see how we can utilize medicine differently. Modern medicine is seeking answers for people who are no longer responding to depression medication. I see a path of hope for our nation.
But it is not easily available and I just wonder why?
@@ExiledGypsybecause of greed (pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies) and cultural bias. Also, their is a vested interest in keeping people unenlightened and disconnected from each other. This way we don't rebel.
@ss2878 That doesn't make sense. Pharmaceuticeticals companies want to make money. The SSRI and SNRI bubble is stagnanted now.
Anyone entering the market with a new treatment for depression will be like when Prozac came out back in the 80s. It made Lilly a fortune and had five years all to its own and then they came out with a SNRI that made them even more money. This is how they keep things going. Once a generic version is out that is really the endo of the big cash. You can get Prozac now at prices less than aspirin. So, there is no insentive for the major pharmaceutical to bang on it. There are only tiny minority who brlieve that the brand name if more effective and given the fact Prozac is only effective partially even when it is, your analysis doesn't make sense.
The formulation for Sketamin will soon lose its exclusivity. If it were really effective, it would be made accessible. I think that it isn't as effective as it is made out to be. You can tell from the differences between the initial reports and later reports.
Unless you know exactly the pharmokinatic of a CNS drug the outcome is unpredictable, even if you have calm surrounding and so on.
These are really powerful drogs. This is why you have aneathetist present for Ketamin's primarly use. This is going to be that same with Psychedelics. They will either have no effect or suddenly have and extreme effect.
Amazing! A doctor that actually cares about patients... it’s almost unbelievable. I found this after finding out about Ketamine from a clinic where I get vitamin C infusions. I have an appointment to learn more at my psychiatrist in 4 days.
“Once you know something, you can’t unknow it.” Unfortunately, that is not true at all for all people with severe depression. The brain is so dulled, epiphanies don’t change anything
Is that why my memory sucks?
Money money money money money. none of this information helps the poor who are lucky if they can afford food for the table.I hate all this exciting positive upbeat talk about things I will never be able to afford.this life long soul crushing depression is slowly sucking the life out of me . I am able to work less and less = less money less able to be able to afford treatments of any kind. And in Western Australia 🇦🇺 I can’t find anyone who can help. I feel like I’m letting my family down more and more day bye day. I hate being alive and I hate feeling this way ,as I feel it’s disrespectful of people who are young and fighting terminal cancers ECT people fighting hard to stay alive.
Them people that hurt the most are those who don’t have the financial means, medical insurance in order to try these types of treatments. Only those that can afford it, can do it. This is truly tragic
I can't get it, because in England it's only available to rich people, at £200 per infusion.
Fortunately I can treat myself with ephenidine, which does the same job.
The reason why ketamine is available as treatment, is because of a person who reported to their psychiatrist, that PCP helped their depression. That psychiatrist decided to try using ketamine to treat depression, as it works the same as PCP.
That was a brave psychiatrist, as most doctors don't listen to their patients, and believe that illegal drugs don't help people, and shouldn't be used.
I have only used the Nasal form of ketamine . At this point , I don't feel the need for the IV, though I would love to experience it just to compare. 2 doses, I felt like a new person. Doing it 2x a week has worked great for me. AND it is very afforadable, unlike for many, the infusions are very expensive. I love this guy !!!
Where you getting that from? Got a website?
How wasn your experience with ketamine.. was it helpful.. has it any side effects.. plz let me know..how long it takes to cure depression..i am suffering from depression for four years
Oct 2021-3 K treat.that have changed me! have had Fibromyalgia since a teen. The constant pain/depression cycle worsened as I aged.(61) Decades of meds, drs, supplements
2) 13 operations since age 15. K has helped depression 90%! Pain-30-40% depending on activity level. It is a $$$$ route. But so were decades of NO help!
My sister even had magnetic brain therapy- nothin- waste of time for her. Today she had her 1st Ketamine Treatment. She said she was disconnected from her body but the therapist calmed her down at different points during the session. So glad they didn’t leave her alone. Hope she is ok. Next Keta is in 3 days. She went to a kind of heaven place . Every one has different experiences I am sure. I understand the heaven place because I had an NDE at age 19.
That’s called dissociation
Same for me. It was serene and blissfully amazing. I believe it what the afterlife will be/feel like
How wasn your experience with ketamine.. was it helpful.. has it any side effects.. plz let me know..how long it takes to cure depression..i am suffering from depression for four years
@@JGendron1983 How wasn your experience with ketamine.. was it helpful.. has it any side effects.. plz let me know..how long it takes to cure depression..i am suffering from depression for four years
@@ahmedfraz8324 it did help some the first couple times but I went back a few more times and didn't seem to help that much. It's just way too expensive. K treatment seems like one of those things u have to constantly keep going to steadily work. Hope this helps
Excellent video and presentation, thank you!
thanks for the best explanation I've found. wish your clinic was closer to me. This has helped me understand my experience so much better.
Brilliant idea for a patient’s intake to include self medicating and what part worked well for the patient, for a whole picture.
Very smart doctor and listens to his patients. Would be awesome to be treated by him.
What a genuine guy ❤
That was a wonderful presentation. Thank you! I can’t afford Ketamine but insurance is covering esketamine so I’m going to start next week. I’m feeling hopeful.
I remember after being knocked out for 40 minutes for a medical procedure, feeling great afterwards. My mind felt very clear, I was calm and felt happy. I was surprised because I expected to feel tired and want to go home and to bed. Instead, I went to lunch with a friend! I felt better than I had in years! It lasted for few days. Later, I told my dr that was the best nap that I’ve ever had and asked what they gave me and he said propofol! I realized how Michael Jackson got hooked. Like Ketamine, now they’re researching propofol for TRD. All very interesting and exciting!
I have found the nasal VERY effective after 2 doses. I don't feel that , for me , there is any more benefit by having the infusion !!! I'm happy for you and happy sailing !!!
diane flood Hi. Even though the first treatment “trip” seemed promising, I felt like crap for several days afterwards. My depression was worse, I couldn’t concentrate or accomplish anything. I canceled the 2nd, then the 3rd, everything is on hold for now. I’m not in a place to risk things getting worse before they get better. 😔 The dr did say that we could go to one applicator and see how that works.
How wasn your experience with ketamine.. was it helpful.. has it any side effects.. plz let me know..how long it takes to cure depression..i am suffering from depression for four years
@@dianeflood8700 How wasn your experience with ketamine.. was it helpful.. has it any side effects.. plz let me know..how long it takes to cure depression..i am suffering from depression for four years
Ketamine is so amazing for depression, though I would rather do ayahausca or psilocybin mushrooms, that being said, I have worked with the medicines LsD, mdma, and Ketamine and I find that psychedelic medicines work a lot better than anti depressents
There is actually research going on with the psychedelics right now.
yerbamatedude they are both the same to me, glad something helps you✌🏽❤️
yerbamatedude that’s only because your high .... if it really worked one dose would be enough to fix you, however I know that’s not the case . There is no permanent cure for depression
Wayne Joseph BRO, why didn’t you quit Abilify before it got that bad. My psyc wanted to put me on Abilify before jacking me up on 450mg of Wellbutrin XL, I did that for a week before I developed “Akathisia” ....back at 300mg and no Abilify much to her dismay 😏
I'm Mikey the old school antipsychotics are cool nice and sedating , I love me some downers
You given me some hope!
how are you doing now. did you have the treatment?.
hi john where do you get ketamine
PLEASE HELP ME FIND OUT HOW TO FIND SOMEPLACE THAT DOES THAT!
I've been on every med out there. I've had ECT'S. I'm on serequel, klonipin and gabapentin. All it does is let's me make it through the day.
Its all very well but where in Italy can I get the medical version
I have been on amitriptyline 50-100 mg for 50 years ( that may be a world record). Nothing else works to help my vagal depression. So I dislocated my shoulder the other day. The doctor reduced it with a Kedamine cocktail on board.I have never taken a psychedelic. What a pleasant experience kedamine was.My only regret was that I had to come back. I will seek further counseling in the Knoxville area. Where was this 50 years ago.
I wish I could try this. I'm running out of options and some depression meds take so long to work that I'm not sure I can endure this torture much longer. The medication I was on for 18 years stopped working.
I got some Ketamine infusions from an online store
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But they absolutely do not have to charge such high fees. The nasal spray is now FDA approved, so some insurance covers it, but it is not as effective as infusions
I agree with all of this except for maybe the Psychonaut part i belive that along the same lines as them in the process of abusing drugs if they arent currently abusing substances of the psychedelic sort or any other it may helped them i used to trip and i abused the substances and was thrown into a period filled with insomnia and deep existential depression and then i had the opprotunity to try it and the day just so happened to line up very well for me to have a good time before and after the ketamine so that very much helped me just in the case of my mental state i in no way compare that to a professional setting but other than that your video was absolutely astounding and all of the points that you had made were very pertinent and in depth and it was extremely exceptional and i am thankful you do what you are doing
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I've never done ketamine in a therapudic setting though ive tried it a couple times, but ive used memantine for this purpose and its been life changing, i feel so happy and optimistic about life even after its warn off, im more productive, patient, and im happy to be around people im close with. I dont have brain fog anymore and my restless leg syndrome is basically gone now. its been amazing, im so glad doctors are opening up to this type of treatment because this type of therapy forces you to tackle your problems head on, you find out why you have a certain issue, and you learn how to fix it, its really emotional and eye opening. I cant wait till this becomes more mainstream as i think this would really help a lot of people. I've actually tried dextromethorphan too and i find it really does help when used responsibly though memantine does a little better for me. Just dont go dosing to high with dextromethorphan because it can fuck you up long term.
I have such bad brain fog and fatigue from having me/cfs. Do you think meantime would help?
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I'm going to ask my Primary about it Monday!
I have tried to get in touch with My Ketamine Home, and have had no luck. I am trying to schedule a treatment.
This is really great
Where do u live?
@@janetsierra6620 Austin Texas but I am in Belfast now
I like this guy! How can I get a pdoc like this in DC??
This is one of the most widely anesthetics, it deserves some respect. It's the best to handle depression and many more in no time. Quality also matters, get it taphpharma.com/shop/buy-ketamine-hcl-powder/
How does this work for bipolar depression ? Does it result in manic mood?
Anyone in the uk had success with ketamine for mdd & gad?
Can you recommend a clinic?
I’m based in northwest England
Do you know about Spravata treatment?
It feels like a magic bullet to me. My depression was more grief related and I have never sought help before. Talk therapy frustrates me because intellectually...I know what I am feeling does not make sense. I am loved and I have a wonderful life but after taking care of my father during his cancer and then caring for my mother after his death wore me down. I suffered a birth injury with my fourth child and am grateful he is alive but it has been difficult. Fighting with the school to provide him a free and appropriate education that involves technology was like pulling teeth just twenty years ago so I think I had a lot of "weight" that I was pushing to the back. I am a strong person and believe in picking up my pack and marching but by this point there were so many bricks in my pack that I was not able to pick it up and march any longer. The first dose did not do much and the second dose was increased a bit the next month. I am two weeks out of my second treatment and I feel like a new person. I feel the way I should have felt all along and I recommend Ketamine for anyone and everyone because a lot of people do not realize they are carrying around depression and can feel differently. How would a person know if they have always felt a little heavy? It builds so slowly like the frog who will allow the water to boil him to death because it is a gradual increase in temperature. I don't mind the feeling and believe the deeper you go the better. However, it isn't something I would look forward to doing or seek out now that I am starting to feel better. People abuse substances of all kinds as a way to self-medicate and the Ketamine removes things you did not know were there but are so glad they are gone. I would put this in funeral homes, for example, because the medical community needs to move away from the Puritanical bias that things that feel good are bad etc. I recommend it. I would not want it to be something I used on my own or at home. I would try this first if I was treating depression! The medications took months and I wish I had that time back.
Thankyou so much
I think it should be made more clear that the IV ketamine infusions are NOT covered by insurance (very expensive) and you cannot drive yourself home afterwards. Also, it may be hard to work in between treatments during the 2 week initial treatment phase (I found myself exhausted but everyone is different)
Now they have it in nasal spray. But it's still cost prohibitive, especially during the first 2 months of therapy. It's 1100 dollars for a two spray week.
@@wpetercampbell7723 its fucked up these treatments aren’t being provided to those that truly need it the most. Who the fuck has $500 per treatment? Unless you’re loaded, have a trust fund or come from well to do.. most live almost above poverty levels across the US and the world, shit many more live in poverty
I am starting next week. I am very hopeful.
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JoJo how are you feeling after treatment? Please let me know.
How wasn your experience with ketamine.. was it helpful.. has it any side effects.. plz let me know..how long it takes to cure depression..i am suffering from depression for four years
How did you feel after having your treatment?
What can be done to make the therapy more affective? For example, would some kind of talk therapy 24 hours later be more helpful?
This is one of the most widely anesthetics, it deserves some respect. It's the best to handle depression and many more in no time. Quality also matters, get it taphpharma.com/shop/buy-ketamine-hcl-powder/
What happened where did you go. I am unable to find you
I’ve had my initial 6 infusions & 2 boosters. I cannot find much information on integrating the medication to help it work better, process things better AFTER my infusions.( days, weeks, months) Please direct me to more information on integration. Thank you
Journaling is key as it will naturally highlight what is most important to you as an individual. Establishing healthy habits is also key, including getting out into nature. Listen to this tape again as he touches on these things. I’ve watched a bunch of videos on this topic and this is the most insightful one I’ve found. This guy is real sharp. You might also go the Mindbloom site where you can find articles on some of the things you ask about. I like them, too. And remember, there are organic issues that the drug addresses directly even without you help, although integration activities seem to speed things along.
What doses are these people taking ??
Setting up my first course of infusions is the first thing I plan on doing after I stumble then fall backwards into a pile of cash.
Look into DXM. Do a bit of reading first, though.
Johns Hopkins is the team behind esketamine, I think. They've also tried a few dxm dosing regimens.
I can vouche on an initial dose of 90 mg. I will not give a frequency, but multiple daily doses might be necessary. It depends on how you metabolize it. 90 mg had visual disturbances for me, so I worked my way up slowly with smaller doses spread out.
You need to be very careful with your doses! There's no official dosing regimen.
And remember, this is a psychoactive substance.
Highly elevated levels of glutamate can mimic schizophrenia, so it's important you stay within low doses.
There's no need to take big doses. This isn't lsd, which helps people conquer fears. This is dxm increasing glutamate levels and boosting serotonin slowly but immediately! So it does work rapidly, but you need to find a stable dose. That comes with time after working your way up slowly.
I have found this helpful more than any stupid Big Pharma med.
Just be responsible. There's visual disturbances and other issues you might stumble across.
They go away with tolerance, which is why you need to slowly work your way up. It's like any other med we use.
Show it respect and you'll find great relief!
I buy from RoboCough. Their tablets didn't work for me, so I only use their syrup. Seems I don't metabolize their tablets properly or something. It actually felt like a different drug.
There's so much to talk about. There's something called neuro-genesis, which apparently, these dissociative anesthetics cause.
That means there might be permanent effects after prolonged use, I think. I don't get paid to know this, but I've done actual reading regarding the science behind neurochemistry, if that's what it's called.
Wish you all the best. And please be safe and responsible.
This is one of the most widely anesthetics, it deserves some respect. It's the best to handle depression and many more in no time. Quality also matters, get it taphpharma.com/shop/buy-ketamine-hcl-powder/
I need help with my sleep med not working now and don’t know what do afraid to stop
Start an exercise routine... there are plenty of walk challenges on the internet... tire your self out... you will like it in the long run... good luck...
I agree wih him about the serotonin heory. Was on antidepressans for 22 years. Helped the first year, as soon as I went off them, they never had effect again. Turns out I have PMDS and the only thing that ever helped was to treat for adrenal fatigue with natural supplements, NO chemicals.
what is pmds?
I'm running out of options...My Psychiatrist recently brought up Ketamine treatment...I don't have much to lose..Long struggle..
I’m getting ready to try it orally at home (a lot less expensive and it is through a clinic). I’m a bit nervous but I’ve tried everything except shock therapy over many years. I am hopeful this gives me some relief. I like the idea of a “reset” in my thinking. Best of luck to you. If you try it, I hope it helps you a lot!
@@JF-ym8gm JF - I have suffered from major depression for 30+ years. I have done a lot of research on Spravato. The drawbacks are that I work full-time and have to ask my wife to take me and stay 2 hours and take me home. I have often wondered if this is available orally and in the safety of the home. Has it worked out for you?
@@erinserb I would have liked to have started with the infusions, but the expense and that time committment for both me and my husband just didn't make it feasible. So, I've been taking it at home orally and, yes, I have noticed I have felt better, and my husband has noticed too. It has not been dramatic, but as you have probably found throughout the 30+ years, any improvement is wonderful (and "dramatic" is relative when you get deeply depressed and begin to feel better). When you take it at home, you are required to have a "sitter" who stays nearby and checks on you throughout. (In my case, because I have high blood pressure, my husband takes my BP every 30 minutes.) I've only told two friends so far what I've been doing because I wanted to see first what it was like, but I am going to be open about it now in case someone else decides, after his or her own thorough research, it might be worth a try. Best wishes to you, Brian.
@@JF-ym8gm hi there and many thanks for the info. Being able to take it at home would be a game changer - may I stay in touch with you to see how I can do this? 😊🍀
@@erinserb Yes. :)
Still at the beginning of the video but I take 3 to 4 Robitussin cough gels to help my Ambien work every night. I reached a point where I thought it was too expensive to keep taking them and I stopped, and it took me awhile to realize why I had not been able to sleep for almost two weeks. I inadvertently remembered I had stopped taking them, and then just ordered a bunch more bottles, because they worked.
I had bought generic because they were cheaper, but I went back to the Robitussin brand because I was sure that they worked. A small price to pay for a good night's sleep.
Have you tried melatonin?
@@jonnyw82 - Yes. I am back to taking two to four 10mg Melatonin. (I take a lot of stuff.)
@@113dmg9 wow, that’s a lot. 1mg is enough for me. I used to be addicted to week, alcohol and NyQuil to sleep so I totally feel your pain.
@@jonnyw82 - I didn't want to mention muscle relaxants, either. It's a long story. (Trauma from almost 7 years ago.) Really stinks. Waiting for pot to be medically legalized in my state, and just using that.
@@113dmg9 Sorry to hear that. Have you tried ketamine yet? It’s supposed to be effective for PTSD as well as depression.
i really want to try this, ive been on depression meds for years and i still struggle with depression and very low self esteem,
my experience on ketamine has been a great benefit while breaking through one ought to take the right dosage, below usually where l get mine
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Dude is on Instagram handle
So we can now say with a measure of certainty that stress is causing mental illness? Wow. About time. Maybe if we had have stepped in when vince fellitti showed us that childhood adversity was hurting a lot of people, we could have prevented this epidemic of depression. Atleast now we have more drugs available... and we didn't even have to address the widespread scourge of child abuse.
SSRI almost killed me. SNRI barely helped me. i tried nootropic medication that my psychiatrist prescribed , didnt help at all. i improved by 15% after trying 6 different medication combinations over 5 years. i was put on psychosis medications even which made me imagine things which never happened before and was taken off it after 3 weeks and i have been given different diagnoses but my doctor literrally shrugged and said he had no idea where to go next, which led me to find a psychiatrist that offers ketamine treatment.
How are you doing now?
I fear I'll die of old age before I get a chance to find out if this could help my life-long dysthymia
At 10:25 you say that SSRI's work because of a different mechanism than the serotonin imbalance. I'm really curious about what that mechanism is. Can someone please explain?
Same. I felt frustrated because he didn't explain what it was.
i think he didnt say because they really dont know how they work. its just some sort of other (unknown)mechanism
birdgincrit I have been on every antidepressant except for Mao inhibitors . 🤦🏻♀️ They would last for about 8 mo. Now nothing works except Klonipin for anxiety and panic attacks and I am being taken off again because of stupid New Mexico lumping it in with opiates . They don’t even consider or care why I need this drug. Now I have to go through the horrific withdrawal for the 3rd. time . I don’t know if I will survive this time so 🤷🏻♀️
@@julietteSoul Good luck for that. I also have anxiety and panic attacks and it's SO hard, there is no word. Sometimes i want my brain to stop working just to end this suffering. And same here in france, the government doesn't help us, they ban some substances that can potentially help us. Have you tried supplements like gaba, l theanine, ashwaghanda, rodhiola? They really help.
@lauraaa3400 @Juliette Gabapentin has helped me for the anxiety throughout the day, then I take a Benzo if I need it for a panic attack
It costs $500 per Ketamine infusion. The nasal spray is $700 per spray. Monthly cost about $6000! first month for Spravato (spray) treatment. Medicare covers zero.
It’s truly tragic.. that those that needed the most are those that can’t afford it and unfortunately health insurance are not willing to try outside modalities, health insurance isn’t about saving lives but making money on behalf of peoples suffering.
HOW DO I CONTACT THIS GUY, I NEED HIS HELP!! Anyone have contact info?
Did you contact👋
What about Ketamine for chronic Acute Pain? Back pain , that surgery’s only keep you there for the rest of your life!!!! Also what about the fact that “K” is a horse tranquilizer and aided in Anastetheologist for vet use and there is the potential of a certain amount can produce hallucinations and is this a danger?
Is this treatment covered with Medicare and Medical ? There is Ketamine on the streets used by spiritual healers and it is a completely different experience than in a medical setting! I have been in the medical profession since I was 17 and now over 60 and I would like to know all there is to know pros and cons pertaining to the use and knowledge of this substance.
I am certainly open to it . Do enlighten me 🤗😁🙏🏻
Is there an over the counter drug that contains enough ketamine for a bit of DIY treatment?
Not over the counter but there’s a ketamine nasal spray that is covered by some insurance companies! It’s called Spravato. I hope this helps.
SSRIs have never done anything for me At all. Since my early 20s. Not even close. I have gained a lot of weight on different antidepressants. Then gave up. I was diagnosed with bipolar in my early thirties. And took lithium which I did not tolerate. And the. Later lamictal. Which I also hated. 😅. I’ve had many years of therapy. Which is helpful to some degree, but The only thing that keeps me decently functional is STRONG and regimented, involved lifestyle routines. Sleep and light and lots of exercise. Also pretty dedicated meditation. Daily. It’s actually quite time consuming. And when I get sick like with a virus, or have to be less active for some other reason, it all falls apart. Quickly. Considering trying ketamine with all this. To get better and more sustainable results. All this mental illness, but with bright spots inbetween. A damaged and imperfect but supportive marriage. A lovely 8 year old son. A business brand I grew with a partner and then sold successfully. Degrees.different careers. 🤣. I’m in my 40s and am looking forward to some consistency maybe. One day.
Every time I did a therapeutic dose of K in a comfortable setting, when severely depressed: I was able to hear cracks in my brain, I believe these to be the damaged pathways being re-constructed. Afterwards I would feel really re-birthed because my identity vanished totally, I was able to re-invent myself and not judge myself any longer. Also I felt as if I was thrown around the room, yet knew I was laying completely still - but remained very calm, learning to enjoy the movements as a rollercoaster. However I must say: a few sessions after, something struck a nerve: the material-inner alchemical reality of ketamine, made me doubt on how efficient it is - yet dangerous, as if almost a cheat and some entity (my consciousness) advised me to look into other ways of dealing with guilt, suffering and stress - now I am opening up to meditation after years of judgement. However: I still have issues with institutionalized matters where theory becomes an excuse to induce suffering, like eg. animal sacrifice-culture. Sacrifice things worth sacrificing, immaterial things standing in the way of progression, broader, non-relativistic understanding & symbiotic societal enhancenment, maybe. At the moment I am finishing my Bachelor in the Visual Arts and actual enabled myself to theoretically weigh up against authority figures standing in the way of my personal goals - which are for the benefit of as many people as possible, even those standing in my path.
had the 2same experience as you.. and realization as well..
I’m taking you where not under a doctors care while EXPERIMENTING with Ketamine. So how did you use it? How many milligrams did you indulge in?
@@stephaniekeller4449 i did 50 under dr care. then 60 next week. im done.. it wiped me out physically
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WOW!!
Clever to question a patient about their history of prescribed medication and self medicating history for what worked.
Wish the interviewer were mic'ed too
you are 100% , wow
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Yeah first and most recent psychiatrist didn't even really get to know me and just asked me these basic questions...im like, really? Then when I asked him about his alternative machine that helps with depression he says that you have to take multiple ssris first and then if they don't work then I could try it but even then most insurances don't cover it and out of pocket its thousands and thousands of dollars. Even the ketamine treatment is 500 bucks a session and you need like 6 sessions. What a joke....yeah let me just bust out my 3000 dollars I have handy from the fruitful life I've had while dealing with my depression. ...uh no
Try spravato.
Then why isn't it used more widely? It has been years that Ketamine or Sketamine has been shouted as a breakthrough in treating depression but there is almost none in Europe and only a few in the US?
The same goes for magic mushrooms and psychedelics. This is either disgraceful or all of this is hype.
And what about pain?
Can this help with benzodiazepine withdrawal? If sok it could be beneficial for hundreds of thousands of people who are sufering in silence and are ignored or discounted by thei doctors who put them on the benzo in the first place. It's a horrible thing.
Sean Evans yes, I am going through Klon withdrawal right now because New Mexico is taking everyone off of Benzos and Opiates, for some reason they are lumping them together. I hope I can at least get a beta blocker for the panic attacks🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️. Ketamine is very expensive and not regulated . Good Luck Man✌🏽❤️
Juliette I’m at the end of my taper from clonazepam ( Generic Klonopin). I’m at .26 mg a day now.
Sean Evans 26 mgs.😂or .26 mg?
Sean Evans yes I mentioned that somewhere on here about a beta blocker , I will try and get from my dr. Lucky you are in Cambodia , I should just go there ✌🏽yes , I am down to 1/4 cup very weak coffee and the sugar am trying. Was on a strict keto diet and noticed I had no depression after a week , I should do that again, thnx✌🏽
Juliette you should. Rent for studio apartment with kitchen , bathroom, usually a balcony etc is just $125-$175. Food is inexpensive. Taxis very cheap if you need one ( $1 usually around town. ). Blood work at a lab is cheap too. .26 mg from 1 mg. I should be done in 3-5 weeks. Then the real healing begins.
They never comment about nausea and dizzy.
If I take cough syrup instead how long until I feel better? I wouldn't be able to afford ketamine infusions.
He is not recommending regular cough syrup use. Talk to your therapist and they can help direct you. :)
PTSD, will the VA pay for this for veterans?
I JUST WATCHED TJOS VODWO IN A KOLE
Tried it lasted 2 weeks then I was back to normal again...,. Two weeks is not enough time to change my life around...., The outcome for me was comparable with electric shock treatment.... Or a near-death experience..... But as I said the depression was only lifted for 2 weeks..... Have you got something that will make it stay away a bit longer?
If the depression was lifted for two weeks then why not continue ?
@@rickjames4406 I wish I knew the answer.
@@tonigood7245 if it works you keep doing the treatments
@@rickjames4406 but it only works for two weeks.... So what I'm supposed to get zapped every two weeks for the rest of my life?
@@tonigood7245 why would you refer to it as getting zapped? And yeah if it works to treat your depression then yeah why not take it for the rest of your life? That’s not the goal of ketamine though..... the goal is to make you stable long enough so you can correct your life while the depression is dulled down, then once you’ve in a more stable and happier life you won’t require the treatments.
It works for severe OCD and depression
What about PTSD?
What if you have a old skool pyschiatrist which dont want to give Ketamine, because its to new, no experience with it. Search an other pyschiatrist? Do an 2nd opnion at a acadamic hospital?
Call a place that specifically does ketamine. They have their own docs or NPs that’ll evaluate and approve you.
Bro if I can get Ben Platt to cure my depression with ketamine and song, sign me up
So this is what Stu from The Hangover is up to now?
Lol
This dude needs some tapestries in his exam room
i lol'd..
It's kind is dark.
Some therapies are done blindfolded to restrict sensory intake during the course of treatment. Less stuff the room = less chance of triggers. "The wrong tapestry" could be less than therapeutic.
A tapestry would really tie the whole room together.
Can you use this to get off narcotics? Because it causes depression no sleep and so on , what if u r on Suboxon???? I need to help a family member please hurry 🙏🏻😢💔
Try Kratom to help ease the withdrawal i used it to get off methadone!!
Why aren't more doctors being trained in the manner he was?
Where can you get the treatments?
You talk to your Psychiatrist.
My buddy just had his first treatment here in Austin, TX. I also know that you can find treatment centers in California as well as New Jersey with Dr. Levine seen here :)
@@jasonb3907 Ty :) I have found one close to me. I hope your friend feels alot better.
@@alisadianne1681 Glad to hear that Alisa! I picked him up at the clinic after his first treatment and it seemed like a big weight had been lifted off his shoulders, so it definitely works wonders for those who truly could use it. Hope your session yields the same positive results as well!
@@jasonb3907 Thank you!
For more info on ketamine therapy, faqs, research, clinics nearest you: www.ketamineadvocacynetwork.org/introduction-to-ketamine-therapy/
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Lemme tell you how wonderful mental illness is at 19 I developed severe anxiety disorder was homebound for over a year fought like a bitch to get my life back sick all the time scared all the time well got back working then in 99 I met I thought was a wonderful girl married her told her everything b4 when were dating the hell I went through I was now 30 , great marriage bought a house first 5 yrs great still had some generalized anxiety then in 2005 let's have a baby wasn't sure I was 35 now ok 36 baby boy this did something to trigger my anxiety to full throttle again depression this time also couldn't get out of bed for a month fast forward I'm 49 divorced my exwife revealed my past history in court so my son is 13 l love him dearly but I'm only allowed supervised visits even though I've been back working for many years she got my house and I have to pay her ofcourse, shes remarried the fucker lives in my house w my kid ! Life sucks for a long time ! I have no idea what I've done to deserve such torture! Thiers so much more but you get the gist!
John hurts me to read about your pain and the struggle you have. How are a things going for you now? Are you still working and can you see you son with out supervision?
Coke and kett is an amazing drug combo for depression ect
Thank you for the BS statement!!! After that I was hooked!!!!
This is one of the most widely anesthetics, it deserves some respect. It's the best to handle depression and many more in no time. Quality also matters, get it taphpharma.com/shop/buy-ketamine-hcl-powder/
Grey area. Something that isn't just promoting an illness. You mean like, getting high?
I’m a week into microdosing it with Joyous.
"what inspired you to do this?" LoL
Total scam. It’s McDoctoring. Doses not nearly enough to work. Office suddenly shuttered in Raleigh, NC with no way to contact.
Helpp peOPLE %%()🙄🙄😳, OOopps, suspicious minds around
Another not for everyone ! My sister ended up in the mental hospital with a nervous breakdown after her 4 th Ketamine infusion, also the emergency room first because of dehydration from the Ketamine. This is not even regulated yet , what another disgrace to Psychiatric Industry🤦🏻♀️
theres alot of sick people and alot of people in suicidal pain they are gonna die if they can't get ketamine treatments, fuck the regulations. Only a very small percentage of people react negativley like every medication. regulations take time and ketamine is showing to be a miracle lifesaving medicine for alot of people
Yet ssris are legal in many commit suicide from them. Most of the School shooters were on antidepressants. Let's make them illegal too I guess
Ok well y'all need to have some sympathy first of all for her sister. Don't be a freakin dick. I hope your sister is ok.
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How is your sister doing now? I hope that she is ok.
Sounds like a good way to srew up the brain even more
Sounds like whatever you're on has already 'screwed' yours up! lol jk just jokin' :)
Doctor vs dude on the internet. I think I'll go with the doctor.
@@n3rdworldproblemz877 no one steps you back
@@n3rdworldproblemz877 psychiatry has a chronic and rampant confirmation bias. A metastudy even showed that recently. Look up what ketamkne does to cognitive functioning for people who use it long term recreationally, and also for chronic pain managemt. Now look at their doses. Now look at the doses given for depression treatment.
@@taggah2000 Great points, I really do enjoy the scientific approach,
Do you have any strong academic material that evidencially break down systemic conformation bias in the ketamine studies?
Also is there any contemporary academic journals I can read to understand more of your points?
I don't have material on this point, because I just thought about it and will research right after this comment, but I'd like to understand the human impact in medical vs abuse application if ketamine vs opioids. From a high level understanding the US has an opioids crisis. It would be interesting to understand the differences and simiairties on the societal impact.
Thanks for commenting :D time to read.