Can Kurdish & Persian Speakers Understand Mazandarani?
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- In today's episode, we are featuring a Caspian Iranian language, Mazandarani, which is also known as Tabari, to see if Kurdish and Persian speakers can understand it. I am joined by Parham, who comes from Sari, Mazandaran, Iran, who will be speaking in the Mazandarani language, Aydın, as the Kurdish speaker from Diyarbakır, Turkey, Sohrab, a Persian speaker from Kabul, Afghanistan, Feruzjon, a Persian speaker from Bukhara, Uzbekistan, Hossein, a Persian speaker from Kerman, Iran, and Ozar, who speaks Shughni and Persian, from Tajikistan.
Mazandarani, known by its endonym as مازرونی (Mazaruni) is classified as a Western Iranian (Iranic) language, belonging to the Caspian branch, and thus sharing a lot in common with other Caspian languages such as Gilaki, Talysh, Deilami, and Semnani. It also shares a lot with Caucasian languages, which is reflective of the historical closeness of the people of the Caspian region and the Caucasus region.
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The region of present-day Mazandaran province of Iran was part of the Kingdom of Tapuria, which is often referred to Tabaristan (طبرستان / تبرستون). With the rise of Islam and the eventual downfall of the Sassanian Empire (ساسانیان), much of the Iranian Plateau became part of the Caliphate. However, Tabarestan remained independent of the Umayyad Caliphate and maintained Zoroastrian dynasties, such as the Bavand dynasty (باوندیان), the Ziyarid dynasty (زیاریان), Dabuyid / Gaubarid Dynasty (گاوباریان / دابویگان), and the Baduspanids / Badusbanids (پادوسبانیان). This significant part of history played a major role on the Mazandarani language as well. Mazandaran maintained a Zoroastrian majority until the 12th century, and thus the language was not influenced by Arabic as much as Persian and many other languages in the region.
Mazanderani contains several different dialects that correspond to the cities and regions of the province, among which there are the Saravi, Amoli, Baboli, Ghaemshahri, Chaloosi, Nuri, Shahsavari, Ghasrani, Shahmirzadi, Damavandi, Firoozkoohi, Astarabadi and Katouli dialects. The major cities of Mazandaran are Sari (ساری), which is the largest city in the province, located between the northern slopes of the Alborz Mountains and southern coast of the Caspian Sea. Many people are not aware that city of Sari was at one point the capital of Iran, Babol (بابل), Amol (آمل), Qaem Shahr (قائم‌شهر), Behshahr (بهشهر), Chalus (چالوس), Neka (نكا), Babolsar (بابلسر), Tonekabon (تنكابن), and Nowshahr (نوشهر)
زبان مازندرانی (مازنی، مازِرونی، تبری، طبری) یکی از زبان‌های ایرانی شمال‌غربی است درگروه زبان‌های کاسپین که شامل زبان‌های زازاکی، گورانی، تالشی، گیلکی، طبری، تاتی، هرزندی و سمنانی می‌باشد. در برنامه امروز می خواهیم ببینیم آیا کرد و فارسی زبانان میتوانند آن را درک کنند؟
در این ویدئو پرهام از ساری، آیدین، کرد از دیاربکر، ترکیه، سهراب، از کابل، افغانستان، فیروز، از بخارا، ازبکستان، حسین، از کرمان، و ازار (آذر) که به شوغنی و فارسی صحبت می کند، از تاجیکستان هستند
Though not considered to be exactly where the present-day province is located, Mazandaran is been mentioned in the Shahnameh (شاهنامه), the national epic of Greater Iran, as well as the Avesta (اوستا), the primary collection of religious texts of Zoroastrianism.
This is reflective of the unique culture and language of the people of Mazandaran, who also have their own separate calendar, known as the the Tabarian calendar (گاهشماری طبری / تبری تقویم), which is also used by Gilaks. This calendar comes from the Sassanid era and is still in use today.
The Mazanderani people (مازرونیون / طبریون), who are at times referred to as Tabari people, have played a major role throughout the history of Iran. Many notable Iranian figures come from Mazandaran, such as Reza Shah, Nima Youshij, Amir Pazevari, Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari, Esmat Bagherpour Baboli, better known as Delkash, Bijan Mortazavi, Gholam Hossein Banan, Shahab Hosseini, Khosrow Sinai, Fakhr al-Din al-Razi, Abdollah Movahed, Imam-Ali Habibi, Ghasem Rezaei, Reza Yazdani, Behdad Salimi, and many others.
The Kurdish languages are mainly divided into three groups. Northern Kurdish (Kurmanji) is the largest, spoken in Turkey, Syria, northern Iraq, and northwest and northeast Iran. Central Kurdish (Sorani) is primarily spoken in Iraqi Kurdistan and the Iranian Kurdistan Province. Southern Kurdish (Pehlewani) is for the most part spoken in Kermanshah and Ilam provinces of Iran and in the Khanaqin district of eastern Iraq.
The Persian language (فارسی) is classified as one of the Western Iranian languages. Persian, often referred to by its endonym Farsi, holds official status is Iran, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan, which it is also the native language of many minority Persian communities in other countries.
Hope you enjoy this week's episode as we feature the Mazandarani language for the first time! Mazandarani, known by its endonym as مازرونی (Mazaruni) is classified as a Western Iranian (Iranic) language, belonging to the Caspian branch, and thus sharing a lot in common with other Caspian languages such as Gilaki, Talysh, Deilami, and Semnani.
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In Mazandaran we literally consider it a dialect of Persian, or old Persian though. We dont distinguish ourselves from Persians.
This is another language I didn't know about
@@persianguy1524 I'm reading about it and says it is Iranian language related to Persian but not a dialect
@@Leo-qz2zd well we consider it a dialect. Also there are different Mazandarani dialects, some are influenced by new Persian more than others.
@@persianguy1524 There is a fine line that separates dialect and language
I am Kurdish and let me just say it's so heartwarming to see all my brothers and sisters all together educating our ancient culture
I dont see any sisters in this vid lol
Looool
Islam is ancient culture
@@firthm2 I was referring to previous videos as well 😅
@@firthm2 lmaooooo
As a learning Farsi and Sorani Kurdish speaker, this is so interesting and like music to my ears 🙏🏻💙
سلام، درود، و سللو
Kurdish word is like saying your learning Chinese. Which dialect?
@@wexqlp3863 True, I forget to be specific, and Sorani, I’ve a friend from Erbil 😄
I'm Turkmen and i learned a sorani kurdish language is a bountiful language, i love the aryan language, , i hop i learn the paresin language
@@oguzhan3601 Awwwww, it’s beautiful meeting you and slaw, min nawim Kenta, xoshalim bî nasinit 🙏🏻
Keep learning and love to Turkmenistan from America 💙
@@oguzhan3601 Salam to all my Turkmen brothers from Karkuk and abroad I hope we can live in peace together once
Can I just say how awesome it was that the Persian speakers were from Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan!! Great job!
yes! it is impressive. I love the unity!
@@marmary5555 Uzbek speak Persian or Turkish ?
@@marmary5555 I though Uzbek are Turk :/
Anyway
Salam from Palestine 🇵🇸
@@memomashash1287 uzbeks are turkic and speak uzbek which is a turkic language but in some parts of Uzbekistan they speak persian
@@memomashash1287 Uzbeks are Turkic, but the country of Uzbekistan has a very large Persian speaking community. That's because the Soviet Union drew these boundaries and they don't make any sense. The cities of Samarkand and Bukhara have a Persian speaking majority Tajik population and it's been that way for many centuries.
As an Afghan, I understand many words
I really like meeting of Iranic people
Finally, thanks for this great video ❤️
Greetings from🇺🇿
(Persian people) Tajik))
Love to Tajik Persians from Iran 💪
Hi from North Kurdistan, i speak Zaza Kurdish. With persian language many similar words
ZazaKurdish are you half Zaza half Kurd?
@Pluto I'm Kurd Also have Circassian blood from side my mother and i don't consider Zazas are Kurds, Zazas aren't Kurds and they don't call themselves Kurd
@@Yusufsnmz07 true kirmanckis and dimlikis are kurds. People that call themselves zaza are assimilated scum
@@Yusufsnmz07 Zaza are kurds too. Don't let turks fool you. They also say Ezidi's are not kurds. And Ezidi speak kurmanij dialect. They also call kurmanij speakers of Turkey for mountain turks.
@@matrixxx3662 bro , zazas are North Western iranic people kinda Kurds but their language is more close to mazandarani and gilaki languages it's not dialect of Kurdish also they are close to Kurds genetically but not same with us so I don't consider them as Kurds but Ezidis are Kurds genetically and linguistic , saying ezidis aren't Kurds it's just bullshit of nationalist armenians
Lots of love from a Persian to all kurds, mazani, gilaki, tajik, lur, balooch, Talyshi, tat, azari, ossetian and all iranic people and all humanity 💙💚
Aryan ❣❣🙂👏
@@kenanar8273 how come Nazis used this word Aryan?
@@umar4655 they thought because they were very old people recorded in History and spoke Indo European Language, that all Indo European Speakers are Aryan.
@@umar4655 But when Iranians use Aryan we don't mean Germans or Europeans. Aryan is just a synonym to Iranian/Iranic.
Arian people👍🏼❤✌🏻
Love to Samarghand and Bokhara 🇮🇷♥️🇺🇿
اکه فارسی نویس منم تاجیکم از ولایت سرخن دریا!
مثلا،
Eshq az Samarkand va Bukhara!
سلام و عشق از ولایت سرخن دریا به همه ی اقوام های ایرانی آریایی 🇮🇷❤🇺🇿
@@دجلةوالفرات-ه8م زنده باشی برادر عزیز.
همیشه شما را دوست داریم💚🤍❤
@@دجلةوالفرات-ه8م سلام و درود بر شما تاجیکان گرامی سرخان دریا''ایرانیان شمارا دوست دارند❤❤🙏
@@behiran2252 درود بر شما و به همه ایرانیان عزیز و گرامی
سپاس برادرم ما هم (نیز )شما ره دوست داریم
چرا کامنت هایتان ره پاک کردید برادر،
من که وقت نداشتم پاسخ به پیام های شما گردانم
@@دجلةوالفرات-ه8م کدام پیام ها؟چیزی پاک نکردم
Really love this one and he was great and great that there was a Tajik from Uzbekistan ( there are more Tajiks in Uzbekistan than in Tajikistan). I hope you can next time do a comparison within all the Northern Iranian Caspian languages, Mazandarani, Gilaki, Talysh, Tati & Semnani.
And he didn't understand any words there 🤣
I don’t like Uzbeks I love the Tajiks! They are my Iranian family. There were great Tajik Iranian men that Uzbeks say they are Turks
The second proverb is common in Hindi: “Naach Na Jaane, Aangan Terha”. “Doesn’t know how to dance, so the courtyard is tilted/uneven/crooked” 😀
I think this particular proverb should date back to 4000 years ago. Before the Indo-Iranian split.
@@kambiz7556 Hahah yes, very possible
@@kambiz7556 potentially, and then different languages and nations formed their own version
Ya in Nepali also same proverb but in Nepali that is Nachna na jannu agan tedho
In Bengali it is-- Nach na janle uthon baka
It's very nice when you focus on languages which don't get much attention. This is very valuable and important and you are providing a great service to the native speakers of these languages.
Finally Mazandarani. There were not many words I understood but vune and niye caught my attention. Greetings from a Dimli aka Zaza Kurd.
I was allways curious if zazas or goranis understood mazandarani because Many claim that Your languages are close
bijî !!
or “biciwî” in zaza? ❤️
@@samb1027 Not really to be honest. Caspian sounds like Feyli Kurdish to me.
@@iomreq2301 In Kurmanji it is biji. In Dimli we also use biji. Maybe other use also biciwi
@@sher7174 i Think because they both kinda have persian accent When they talk. When i was little When i listened to kurmanji i allways thought it was turkish sadly because Many of Them had turkish accent When they spoke kurmanji
So the Arabic words in Albanian mostly entered this way:
Arabic to Persian to Ottoman Turkish to Albanian
But for most of them we have one or multiple Albanian words
Intresting
Hi to our Kurdish friends from 🇹🇷
We are not friends dude never
LOL We are not friends👁️👄👁️💅🏼
@@hajarsindi4607 you are all friends because you all are Muslims.
Shia
Sunni
Wahabi
Deobandi
Hanfi
Shafi
Hambali
Malki
Alvi
Jafri
Im gonna kill my brother if that be Mongolia oo turkey 🦃🦃
We are not friends with fashists
Your videos make me believe in mankind again! This is what we must do, find our similarities rather than our differences. G-d bless you!
Another great video from this amazing channel. It was a pleasure to participate in this video which compares Iranic languages.I now get the similarities between Mazandarani and Kurdish even better after watching the video.
Thank you so much Bahador.
کاری که شما میکنین خیلی ارزشمنده.مرسی که دعوتم کردید...
Thank you for being part of it!
@@BahadorAlast Always a pleasure...
I am from the Turks of the Middle East in northern Iraq. I love the Arian languages. I learned Kurdish and now I am a beginner in the Persian language.
Good luck 👍
You mean northern Iraq is Kurdistan?
Nice
@@basicall7385
Yes i mean kurdistan regon
Northern iraq = Iraq's Kurdistan region
@@oguzhan3601 kerkuk is not kurdistan and also Urmu, Tabriz
Wow! Amazing job you guys. Being part Mazandarani, though I don't speak it fluently unfortunately, I enjoyed so much 🌷🌷❤❤
Who was the cutest guy?
@@donq2957 For me, Sohrab, the one from Afghanistan.
@@sepidehzandi139 He looks so European.
Unfortunately Mazandarani and Gilaki are endangered languages! 😔
@@donq2957 European? I don't think so. He looks like he's from Afghanistan and he looks great.
The pamiri guy say they use shal for the Hijab, Shawl in english and very similar words in other germanic langauges, it is desmal in kurdish (dont know if its a further mutation of the root word). They also mentioned that Kal is bald, this is also a word in Swedish that mean that something is bare/naked. In Kurdish kurmanci "Kal Charm" would mean "old leather".
In Dutch we have the word Kaal which also means bald
I thought exactly the same "Kal" means both bald and "a form of old.. like weathered "in kurmanci Kurdish 😄🇹🇯🇹🇯🇹🇯🇹🇯
We also say Şar(shar) for shawl in Kurmanji. I think scarf must have something to with it.
How amazing! I didn’t know all of this. In Afghanistan we also say desmal and shawl, and kal is bald as well.
Hey,Mazani speaker here."Kal"can be used in exactly the way you said,in the meaning of old/worn out.
Regarding Shawl,it's actually a Persian word which went to English via Hindi/Urdu.
Greetings from Iran btw!
Interesting fact, Shah was Mazandarani
@Ardas Donemy He was literally from Mazandaran and spoke like 6 different languages lol.
@@persianguy1524 I Think Mazandaranis They’re Persianiezed Even They Pernsianizer Themselves
@@Brandon12-M thats because we dont view ourselves different from Persians
@Ardas Donemy Hey, this is misinformed. Reza Shah spoke Mazandarani and lived in his birthplace of Alasht, in Savadkooh of Mazandaran until he was in his late teens and joined the Qajar military. A majority of Mazandarani people are “Pan-Iranist”, meaming they are proud of the Iranian people. Even the Pan-Iranism movement was started by an Azeri and a Mazandarani together. Reza Shah loved and cherished all Iranian people and had plans to assimilate Armenia, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and Kurdistan back into Iranian territory to help develop them. My family is from 2 villages over to Alasht, where Reza Shah was born. We frequently went to that village for Sizdahbedar. Please, do some research before you blindly mention unrelated facts. He loved his Azeri wife, that is true. But he was also proud of being Iranian and Mazandarani.
@@MrPKmask Yep, and he was also a staunch Persian nationalist.
I am baloch and there are lots of similar words , it’s was interesting 🤓.
I didnt understand much even though I am baloch. Btw are u from Pakistan?
Which city are you from?
@@BigMoney398 It might depend on the region
@@worldly8888 im from kohlu
@AHMED BALOCH ok but I didn't ask you
Greetings from Kurdistan to Mazandaran🌹
Durood 🌺
@@MrPKmask durod? selam
@@betonebenozuwan9346 Durood means Salam in Mazandarani and Persian
@@EzKurdim1 in Kurdish it's actually "slav/slaw" for grettings
I loved this one! You could really tell they all enjoyed themselves and were passionate about their culture and languages.
A little trivia here. There’s a little town in western India called Navsari. Apparently Zoroastrians from Sari, Iran migrated to India to escape persecution and settled into a place granted by a local king and they named it Navsari meaning New Sari!
You are correct! Some Parsis in India did DNA tests which showed that they were originally from Mazandaran.
Parsis are mostly of eastern Iranic descent.
@@bhka6423 Not true. Parsis did come from various parts of Iran to escape the Islamic persecution and seek safety in India. If you learn their family names and the names of settlements they lived in the western coast of India, you will come across names like Kermani, Shirazi, Ispahani, Gilani, Zanjan, Sari, etc. Of course Parsis today have totally assimilated themselves within Indian society and forgotten their Persian language and other aspects of culture except their religion Zoroastrianism!
@@jaskatpon1 A Parsi told me that most of the Parsis are from greater Khorasan. It is also not completely true that Parsis spoke Persian. Many of them were from non-Persian regions. I also have never heard that Parsis have Iranian surnames. Parsis mostly have Indian surnames.
@@bhka6423 Different Parsis will tell different stories because they came to India from different parts of Iran at different times and periods. Yes it’s true many have adopted Indian names but there’s also many Parsis who have retained their Persian names. 1 very good example I can give you is the name Perizaad Zorabian, a small time Bollywood actress. Check her out on google. Do you think the name Zorabian comes from Eastern or western part of Iran? Definitely a strong Persian name! My guess is her ancestors probably came from north western part of Iran.
Amazing!! I never thought I'd see this!!🎉
خیلی حال کردم. دمتون گرم 🙏🏻
Oh they all thought kâl means bald and so did I. In German bald or without hair means kahl, which is pronounced basically the same. It's impressive how often it happens that I recognize words, even though I live over 4000 kilometers away from the region.... The indo-european connection can be strong some times.
It's Indo-European definitely. Chel in Romanian, and I'd assume it's the same in other romance languages
It's funny because kâl when pronounced in the Iranian accent would actually be similar to the way the word for time and death in Sanskrit (कालः) is written. And baldness is actually a symbol for ageing, too. Funny how this relates directly.
@@andreiferariu Latin is "calvus" and according to the internet sanskrit is "khalvata". It truly is incredible.
German "kahl and "kal" are false cognates, though. They hail from different Indo-European roots....Apparently.
That's really intriguing!
As a Mazandarani Person myself, I really enjoyed this video. Thank you guys for putting so much time and effort into making these videos.
Bahador, would make a "Persian vs Dutch" video? There are some similarities that I already know but I'd love to know more.
These are the similar words:
دختر، بهتر، لاک ناخن، حمام، چای، آناناس و..
Thank you so much! :)
We've actually made a Persian/Dutch video, which has a little extra a bit to it. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/IFhaQ4eqXMw/видео.html
Bir mazenderanimisin
Mazenderani biliyormusun
OMG OMG OMG. Finally our beautiful Iranic languages. Waiting for others like Talysh, Tat, Lurish, Bandari, Kumzari, Gilaki... Greetings from north of Kurdistan !
Slaw, bira.
@@bhka6423 DEMBAŞ bo birayê pir hêja 👋🏼
@@Kurdedunaysiri 👍
Bandari is a dialect of Persian also Tat caucasian
@@npqg5330 No. There are eight Persian languages but these are not two of them!
As a half-Gilak half-Persian, watching this was pure joy for me! I got almost everything!
Gilaks are related to Zaza Kurds, they're basically brothers
Gilaks have a similar language to zaza and goran Kurds.
@@PIXELGamerzXvlogs Any videos or links you can provide? Thanks !
@@az6802 However, it's important to note that not all words are the same, somewords may be similar to other dialects of kurdish or none of them, but there's a theory that zazaki and gorani originated from the caspian, I don't know how true it is but nevertheless there are similarities.
@@PIXELGamerzXvlogs any links to this info? Appreciate it.
Every time I see you upload a video is like my day is made😍
Love from Italy
I have no idea how this was 30 minutes long. It felt like 5 minutes. Was a very interesting video, thanks for sharing!
There are many Iranian words in Albanian that came from the Ottomans because the Ottomans used Persian, but we have Albanian versions.
Well so do we in Persian. For each and every loanword that entered via Arabic, there is a pure Persian word. Most of these words can be found in Ferdosi's Shahnamé as well in some local Iranic dialects that weren't affected by Arabic, like for example Mazandarani or Guilaki.
@@marmary5555 intresting, thanks for the info
@@marmary5555 so is Mazandarani treated as a complete language or a branched dialect? I think it is the former case
Iraqi Arabic dialect has many persian words
@@rockinflemingo3075 it's a seperate language with a different structure for building sentences.
Good job guys. More mazandarani please. Greetings from hawler.
Make video on similarities and differences between Kurdish(kurmanji and sorani)dialects
most of the words in Sorani dialect and Kurmanji dialect are the same but the grammars are different
@@omaryrasha7650 bruh even grammars are the same
Is just pronunciation and accent
This is such a great video!!😍💛
In Kashmiri, we also say "humsaaye" for neighbour or a nearer relative, I was extremely startled to see the speaker saying this word exactly like a native Kashmiri speaker. 😮
I could understand "Pashm" from the word "Pashmina" shawls which are so famous in Kashmir. So I could partly guess the word.
"Dar" is window of a room in Kashmiri but I'm aware it means door in Persian. :)
Even my Kashmiri is getting better by watching your videos Bahador! 😁😁 This is really enlightening and adding to the knowledge bank for people like me. :)
@Conservative Indian
True, but as a Kashmiri Hindu, coming from a family whose generations have lived in and outside of Kashmir, we use these words in colloquial sense a lot.
Kashmiri does have an influence through Persian undoubtedly and so are other Indian languages like Marathi, Gujarati, Bengali etc.
@Conservative Indian Isn't Kashmiri, Nuristani, Kalash considered part of the Dardic group? That's what I have learned
@@kongposhkachroo6081 It's an lie. Kashmiri has a lot of Persian influence, after Kashmiris largely adopted Islam as in the subcontinent, the language of Islamic literature was mostly Persian and later Urdu, and also because most of the kingdoms did have Persian I think as an official language.
@@MessiMerdo yes it is. The languages are synonymous to each other and all of them come under the Indo Iranian language family.
@@maxpayne3628
You're correct. I'm not denying what you have read. Even the Hindu rulers of Kashmir used Persian words extensively as their regimes were touching the boundaries of modern day Afghanistan, a bit of Iran, some parts of Turkey etc. So, yes the Kashmiri language has been highly influenced by Persian speakers. Ottoman Turkish also has had an influence because Turks mixed with the local people of rural side of Kashmir.
I love how you put "Derafshe Kāviāni" the legendary royal standard of The Sassanid Empire in your thumbnail. We were all united as a great empire in the glorious days of Persia (Ērān-shahr) before the Islamic invasion.
Dorud!👏 Indeed
Well now Iranians are shia muslims and Persian. No need to be one or the other
We still used Derafshe Kaviani in Tabaristan, even during the days of Maziyar. However, because Mazandaran is a very humid place, most cloth-based objects are destroyed easily so we don't have any evidence of what it looked like.
@@persianguy1524 not all Iranians are Shi'a and not all Iranians Muslim. There are literally millions of non-Muslim Iranians, but if you believe the comical government statistics you'd think 98% of Iranians are Muslim.
@@persianguy1524 what a dumb comment. Persian is an ethnicity, Shiism is a religion. Your ethnicity doesn’t change based on your religion. Also most Iranians/Persians couldn’t give a crap about Islam/Shiism, b/c they were forced to it, and every day more and more are turning away from it.
That's really great! Kurdish, Persian, Mazandarani were all one at one point.
They still are tho, all are part of the Iranian languages
@@sinnerprophet7391 You're right, I guess I meant they were the same, but branched away and now are in the same family group. You are correct
@@arexta153 oh right, yes you are right I read it wrong, there was once just a single language in pre-historic times I think, I think it's called proto Iranian? I'm not sure tho, well it's the same with literally every language in the world, first there were only some languages but they all branched away over time, it's normal and it's still happening even in modern times, I mean who knows how much languages change in the next 1000 years for example, how many new languages we will have or how many languages will die. I think there are good and detailed info in Wikipedia for different languages in the world, how they're connected and what bigger groups they're a part of.
Not at all i couldn’t understand anything except a few words as a Kurdish speaker
@@slavops9599 If two languages are in the same branch it means they share a same root, But it doesn't mean that their speakers can understand each other. It's Because they are different languages. If you could Understand it all it would be Kurdish.
Watching from Azerbaijan. Thank you for this amazing information💐💐💐
خیلی کار خوبی انجام میدین برای نزدیک تر کردن فارسی زبانها در دنیا بیشتر با کردهای ترکیه بذارید
I'm persian from Markazi province (Arak). And i can understand a lot of Mazandarani words.
We call əroos : äroos
Diyar:ashkar
Tal:talkh
Me:man(Arakis say mo)
Eftad:oftad
Obviously well the truth is almost all the languages are spoken in Iran even including Azeri Turkish have got many Persian words in them but they all have their own words which were being replaced and being forgotten. If the pure mazandarani were to be spoken
then it was hard to be understood for many people ❤️❤️❤️ but in general Persian and the rest of Iranian languages are brothers.❤️❤️
In south of iran we also say diyar (ashkar, peyda), táhl (talkh), eroos, mo, ofta (oftad)
I thought only in our region we say dyar for peyda
Fantastic job spreading pan-Iranian dialogue and understanding.
The man from Afghanistan opened my eyes to something we don't know because we arr misled about Afghanistan. Thank you.
I'm impressed with how well he speaks English for someone born, raised and living in Afghanistan. Great job Sohrab 👏🏻
@@mohsen3411 thanks 🙂🙏
@leo my pleasure, interaction like this make us look beyond stereotypes and dig deeper about other people.
Btw can i ask what was that specifically?😃
@@sohrabakrami1195 certainly you are right. You must excuse my ignorance as the media tries to portray a backwards image of Afghanistan showing us extremists and such elements. I'm merely complimenting you but maybe I didn't say it in a good way so my apologies.
@@sohrabakrami1195 oh and I too want to say I'm impressed with your English skills! Did you live in an English speaking country at any point?
The channel is intensifying. Now I’m hearing about languages I didn’t even know existed.
It was a fun vedio and interesting getting to know this beautiful language for the first time. And i found lots of similarities than i thought i would. After all these are mostly about finding similarities between ourselves to understand eachother better, right.🙂
It was really great to have you join Sohrab jan!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
My great great grand father was balochi and kalash my great grand father is Iranian kurdish
As a kurmancî (kurdish) speaker i didnt underatand much. But the grammer looks familair.
erê ez jî kurmanc im û min pir jê fem nekir lê bê guman mezenderanî ji zimanê me re dişibe, zimanên îranî ne jixwe
@@iomreq2301 ez bawer im ji ber kû têsîra farsî li ser mazandaraniyê galak giran a pir şibê farsî.
@@KBBelite47 rast e! aksanê mezendûrî pir ji farsî re dişibe ne wisa?
@SpecialAirServiceSAS SAS i dont know. Never heard bakhtiyari or lori though
I could sit and listen to Mazani speaker (parham) for hours! The video was short despite having 6 participants to speak. Does that mean that i’ve become an ALAST-oholic?😱
Thanks, I did theater in High School for 3 years. I’m glad it paid off lol
@@MrPKmask it sure did something! 😉Imagine playing Shakespeare in mazani:
Romeo: me del te veseh ghash hakone
Juliette: te naaze bakherem, me jan dar bord
Romeo: me tese mireme!
@@JavidShah246 Juliet: Khaaa esa khaylikhob. Ande gap nazen kham bakhesem.
@@MrPKmask 😂😂😂😂
Ouf, these videos are becoming more and more elaborate. So many participants.
There is no language in the world as beautiful as Persian. I am not Persian but I love this language
Farsçamı 😂😁
Farça Hindistan dilleri nin bir parçası ama kürdçe daha güzel bir dil
I'm Uzbek and also tajik I love Persia
Scotish :Brathair
English : Brother
German :Bruder
Kurdish : Brat
Russian: Brat
Bulgarian: Brat
Checz : Bratr
Danish : Bror
Dutch : Broer
Gael. : Brawd
Croatian : Brat
India. : Bhaee
Swedish :Bror
Iceland : Brooir
Polish : Brat
Litvia :Brolis
Luxemburg : Brudder
Makedonia :Brat
Nordish ; Bror
Pencap : Bhara
Serbia:Brate
Slovac :Brat
Sloven :Brat
Tacik :Barodar
Ukraine :Brat
Persian: Baroder
Mazendaranish & Gilakish :Beror
Mazandarani & Guilaki: Beror
@@marmary5555 spas mersi bro
mazandrani have similitry also with south iranian and west as hormozghani i can understand alote from what i hear in this vedio
yes I am Kurdish from Kirkuk city in Iraq...About what he said the word(Kal)) in my Kurdish language means something for fruits not still ripe still virgin or hard to eat it
It's kurdistan! Kal it's an animal, like a type of deer kachal is bald, kaal is light coloured
"Kal" in Mazandarani means bald headed too.
@@Diacosafari89 as a kurd I didn't hear use Kal insteas of kachal it's used for light colors and unripened fruits
Kirkuk Kurdistan! demographic and historical!
کەرکووک کوردستانییە
Kerkûk Kurdistanî ye!
@@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani Yes, it is not T*rkmenli
Thank you! as a mazandarani, so fun to see more attention to it.
1st time of knewing mazandarani. Nice info
Afarin Bahador jan!!!! “You doing the damn thing”. Your videos on comparative linguistics especially on Iranic languages are firsts! It has been neglected by the wider academia for much too long and I am happy you exist and do such good work (kerdar nik). I am thankful for your videos and knowledge you share.
amazing 👌👌viva azandaran,,and viva Iranian people
Hi brother Bahador. Could u please make more videos of Iranic and Turkic dialects. Thanks a lot.
Kocholoo ro beboos
I love mazandaranis. Pahram did a great job well done to him!! Mazandaranis and gilakis always remind me of the northerns in game of thrones i dont know why lol.
چه قشنگه این زبان
بهادر جان از تالشی هم ویدیو بسازید
Nice video as usual, It would be interesting if you could do a "If Talishi, Kurdish, Baluchi and Kashmiri speakers understand each other".
YES!!
I am a baloch but their accent is too weird for me to understand 😂😂
Guys, I am fond of the toponomy of the Iranian states. And I noticed a very interesting detail. In Iran and in Eastern Tajikistan (Pamir), the -vand root is very common. I know that Iran has places like Alvand, Damavand and Merivand. Settlements and mountains with a similar name are found in my region, in the Pamirs.
For example, in Darvaz and Vanj there are villages and mountains with the following names: Nulvand, Kaivand, Rovand, Van-van. Also in Wakhan there is the Zugvand area.
Maybe a similar toponymy is found in other Iranian-speaking regions, but I have not met.
What do you think this means? How are villages, cities and mountains with a similar name translated?
You could be correct! Some Mazenderanis are said to have settled in the region from Greater Khorasan (present day Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan).
Yes, most of the Western Iranian peoples most likely migrated to the Middle East from the territory of Southern Tajikistan, Northern Afghanistan and Eastern Turkmenistan
Vand is a suffix. In fact the Persian word for “Suffix” is literally “Pas-vand” which mean post-vein (branch/root/birth/origin). To this day most Lorish tribes have -vand at the end their tribes; Dalvand, Beyranvand, Sakvand or even many Persian surnames feature the same suffix. It’s most likely an Indo-European cogent with the prefix “Van”.
Caspian languages are very interesting
واقعا کار بزرگی انجام میدید در حق زبان فارسی و اینکه ممنون میشم بیشتر به زبان کورد های ترکیه هم بپردازید و فراموششون نکنید❤
As half gilak half azeri I could undrestand 90 percent ❤
Please this time do Kurmanji , sorani , lurri , bakhtyari and zazaki video 🙏🏻
We are not kurd, We are ZAZA
@@dailamitezaza9948 did he say you are Kurd ?
Lekij bij.
Jîbu aj lekî nagotin?
Lekij beşî je kurdiye🌄
@@dailamitezaza9948 boş yapma
Absolutely interesting and informative🤩🤩👍🏻👍🏻
As a Kurdish Soranî speaker i struggle to understand it
Am disappointed lol
Yeah same here I understand Persian more lol
Still a beautiful language
@@Samir-dz3np okay Gawad😭😭
@@Samir-dz3np Your name just made my day 😂😂😂
@@Samir-dz3np gawad?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please do a similarity video of Taiwan (YAMI (TAO) Indegenous People in Lanyu island) and Filipino (Ivatan Idenegous People of Batanes islands) ...
Yami = Tawo = Tao = "Human" 🇵🇭
(Links of *Austronesian Language Family* of SouthEast Asia and the Pacific and up until Madagascar island.)
Kudos as always bahador ♥️👍🏾
Great to see different Indo Iranian speakers in one video. Like the video! It was very informative…
Funny. Mazandarani is very closed to Darvazi Tajiki/Farsi. Darvazi Tajiks say "konome", "hastome" etc. It is very interesting for me. Thanks from Tajikistan.
🤣😂😂кумша пати шумо ба бовареи нести
I thought exactly the same "Kal" means both bald and "a form of old.. like weathered "in kurmanci Kurdish 😄🇹🇯🇹🇯🇹🇯🇹🇯
Kall Also Means Light Used For Colors
@@Brandon12-M daha hafif bir ses ile söylersen daha tam olmamış bir karpuz içinde kullanırsın farsça ve sizin dilinizde çok arapça kelime var
In Gilaki we say:
Zare Zare pashem ghali beneh
Zare Zareh khone khali beneh.
اگه تو یه ویدیو ارمنی و کردی رو مقایسه کنید فکر میکنم جالب بشه🙏🏻💙
I'm so glad somebody is doing something containing Mazani. Parham is good but obsly he doesnt speak Mazani on the daily ;-)
Great Job @ parham
If you like to do more Mazani content I'd love to pitch something or participate in one!
Salam to all 300 milion Oranian in different countrirs. I'm a Mazani❤
Dorud bar shoma
LOVE our mazani brothers sisters from Shiraz! I studied in mazandaran university and had the best memories there!😍❤
I had great difficulty with this one. Mazandarani is not very similar to Kurdish. I did get the words once he explained them himself, because we have those same words in Kurdish but they’re not pronounced the same way
also, Parham speaks the Saravi dialect of Mazandarani which is quite easier to understand for someone who doesn't speak Mazandarani. So imagine if you had to hear the dialects of Ramsar, Amol, Babol, Firuz kuh, etc You wouldn't understand a word of it.
Bottom line is, just because Mazandarani is a separate language, doesn't mean it should automatically be connected to Kurdish. So I wish people would stop assuming that it should be related to Kurdish, or understood by Kurds. Most Mazanderanis feel no particular connection to Kurds.
@@marmary5555 dostum biz kesinlikle Sizinle Bir kan Bağı Hissetmiyoruz bunu bilmelisin Kurmanc Kürtleri yada sorani kalhuri yada Zaza Kürtleri sizinle hiç bir bağ hissetmiyor buna emin olabilirsin ben bir lur kürdüyüm kabilem ise türkiyede Zazaca ve Kurmanci Lehçelerini konuşuyor ve Şii Süni ikide kabilemde var.. biz Kürt kültüründen başka bir kültüre ait hissetmiyoruz kendimizi ve sempatide duymuyoruz. Sadece yakında tamamen yok olacak ve farslara asimile olacak bir küçük bir gurupsunuz bu kadar kibirlenmene gerek yok sakin ol
It depends how good you are at Kurdish as the people read and write in Kurdish can understand most Mazandarani. Please bear in mind as many Kurds don’t have schools to learn their languages in Kurdistan regions occupied by Turkey and Iran.
ای کاش واسه زبان لری رو هم درست میکردی( برؤهی گئو ده‌س خش)❤️
Hello from iran ! Love all the proto iranic languages
Excellent video Bahador, keep 'em comin'! 👌🙏♥️
Mazandarani sounds close to my native Kurdish (Kurdmandji).
Why do you call it kurdmandji, its "Kurmanji" not Kurdmandji.
@@M414-q6o not only do you not know, but you don't even have the ability to understand something that was explained very well ... stew on it a little bit more and do some thinking, if you finally get it, better late than never, if you don't, give up, there's no hope for you 😊
@@M414-q6o Soran ê meymûn, tu yek ji zarav an zman ên Kurdî baş nizanî. Roj a ku tu rast hîn bû yî vegere em ê bipeyivin. Ez dem a xwe bi kêmzan û nezanan ve girênadim. Here Sorano pirtûkek bixwîne, nav ê eşîretê Kurdan bikole, dîrok a xwe nas bike ... anha zman ê te dirêj û mejî yê te kin û sivik e.
@@M414-q6o Oh wow, you can't write proper Soranî and now you're embarrassing yourself in yet another language, ... great idea! If you knew anything you'd realize that the "-man-" in "Kurmanji" (Kurdish: Kurmancî) comes from the clan suffix "-mand" (Kurdish: -mend) crack open a book or two and look up Kurdish clan names. You're long on tongue and short on knowledge; come back when you learn a few things.
@@woxie4990
Erewellah, soranim u zorish be shanaziyewe. And my comment was never even in Sorani or Kurmanji, I wrote it in a different dialect cause i knew you wouldn't be able to identify it . Thanks for proving me right. Even from a minor disscussion, your superioty complex came right through.
Ez kurmanji dizanim. But you're an idiot and not worthy of my time. My original point still stands "Kurdmandji" is a fake etymology of Kurmanji and has zero historical basis. It was made up by Celadet Bederxan, who was not qualified to talk about anything and made a lot other very innaccurate statements.
Super interesting! 👍🏻 And super charismatic people! 👍🏻
Greetings from Zaza people we are in Anatolia too far from our Caspian cousins but we all Zaza loving our Capsian cousins Zaza people came from Deylem thats why we called ourselves Dımıli ( deylemi ) ZAZA❤TALISH❤GILAK❤TABARI 🇮🇷❤ Doset Dorem İran (we are not kurd)
northwestern iranian languages these languages descended from parthian
@@7mad211 Zazaki is the closest language to Parthian.
Caspian people ❤️
Last part,it doesn't means that you aren't genetically close to Kurds.
I am zaza and we are Kurd!
I just learned that the English word shawl must come from Persian by way of Urdu!
as a Kurdish speaker and a bit Farsi and many more this is language Mazandarani is very interesting
Well done, Brothers..!❤
Hello to Turkish Kurdistn & Tajikistan & Uzbekistan
Салам
Баччаи кучои??
@@دجلةوالفرات-ه8م فارسی بنویسید لطفا
@@bisarzamintarazbad5361
با درود شما بچه کجا هستید؟
@@دجلةوالفرات-ه8م سلام، ایران 💚🤍❤
@@bisarzamintarazbad5361 سلام از دیار امام التيرمىزى
آباد باد ایران 🇮🇷❤🇺🇿
If there are multiple participants trying to interpret what the speaker is saying, would it be possible to ask them to raise their hand to reply? I know that sounds silly, but it’s a little difficult to hear what they’re guessing when they try responding at the same time.
Dear bahador please make a video for LURI language too❤️❤️❤️
Hello my iranic people As a kurd i find this really interesting.
آفرین مردم آریایی عزیز از این دیدنی خیلی شاد شدم امیدوارم که همیشه خوشبخت باشین درود از دوست یونانی شما ❤
خیلی ممنون برادر مهربانم من عاشق یونانی ها هستم 🇮🇷❤🇬🇷 آفرین به شما که فارسی را خوب یاد گرفتید من هم میخواهم یونانی یاد بگیرم بنظرم زبان زیبایی هست
@@djcjvlfkdkg412 قربونت بشم ❤
زبان پارسی خیلی باستانی و زیباست به خدا ازش خوشم میاد آریانا زمین را دوست دارم
خو خوبه که شما میخواین زبان تاریخی ما یاد بگیرین ولی میاندیشم که برایشان کمی سخته
I’m originally mazandarani palanghi from amirkolah near fereydoun kenar and babolsar 🦁🙆🏻♂️❤️🔥shalwar palanghi ahle janghi 🙆🏻♂️the best video ever
Javid Iran aryayeeee Persian empire wil rise again soon 🤴🏻🔥
❤💪🏻🇮🇷💪🏻❤
Mr mazandarni is very knowledgeable, respect brother.
Thanks homie
Yes, he is very good
Im speak mazandarani.
Good job 👏🏻
We can see that Ecolinguist has become a trendsetter, as we can see here and there other RUclipsrs have used his style too. So happy seeing this.
Well not exactly. Bahador's channel has been doing such videos for 4 years now.
@@lenny6449 no, no, I mean the camera positioning. 1 on top and others below.
@@solehsolehsoleh well Bahador was not doing videos online before Covid so they sat down together. It would make no sense to reposition people when they're all together in the same room.
عالیه بهادر جان با فارس های سمرقند و بخارا هم یه کلیپ بساز
سپاس فرهاد جان. تا حالا دو بار این کار رو کردم
ruclips.net/video/saU_3mGkz24/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/L75hstjeLOY/видео.html
@@BahadorAlast ooh Areh
Vaghean
Vam Oon video ham ro Khaylie Doost Dashtam
Man Daram Farsi Yaad Migiram vam Mitoonestam Yezare Harfaaye bokhari ro befahmam
Az Chaharta Mah Dashtam Farsi Yaad Gereftam
Vam Bayad Begam ke Farsi Khaylie Aasoone
Man tu khooneyam Urdu Harf Mizanam
@@BahadorAlast 🤍🤍🌹🌹🤩🤩
با سلام منم فارسی اهل ازبکستان استم تاجیک
منم دوست دارم به این جا اشتراک بکنم ولی متاسفانه انگلیسی نمی فهمم😞😒
@@دجلةوالفرات-ه8م سلام میشه تو اینستاگرمم (Instagram ) به من پیام بدی یه چند تا سوال ازت داشتم این پیج منه f.13.a_
Mazandaran and gilan were the last region of the Persian Sassanid empire that remained Zoroastrian and independent from Arab invasion for a very long time.
Also Mazandarani is not a language of its own, it’s a Persian dialect related to Pahlavi Persian.
They mentioned that briefly in the video but now I want to understand more
I mean more about the history because this was brief
@For Girls Persians obviously
@For Girls kurds didn't even exist back then
@@persianguy1524 Kurds Exist Even Before Christ
Tabri: Shaal
Persian: shaqal
Kurdish: chaqal
Turkish: chakal
English: Jackal
in Turkısh :Çakal
I think it would be nice if you could compare the Zaza language with Ossetian or some Pamir language, since the Zaza language, according to my observations, is the most independent northwestern Iranian language and has some similar vocabulary with the Ossetian and Pamir languages. Moreover, this vocabulary is absent in Persian or other Kurdish dialects. You can compare some similar words such as long (darg), heart (zerd, zur, zarday) and other similar words that sound similar to zazaki, Pamir or Ossetian
I wanted to add something.
I think the lexical similarity of Zazaki with some Eastern Iranian gives us reason to believe that this particular language is a descendant of Parthian, which, as we know, was localized on the easternmost periphery of Western Iranian languages and had an influence from the Saka-Massaget languages. By the way, the Pamir languages themselves are descendants of the Sako-Massaget dialects.
A number of scientists believe that the Pamiris who speak the North Pamir languages (Rushan-Shugnan languages) may be the descendants of those Sako-Massagets who migrated to the Pamirs from the territory of southern Turkmenistan and Iranian Khorasan. There, the ancestors of the Pamirians could contact the Parthians. I think this explains a lot.
@@bublick76 Hi I'm glad I have seen your comment. Yes couldn't believe when I see similarity between our language and parthian when I watched a video about parthian language. For example in Zaza language we count numbers as Yow, D, Hire, Chahar, Punc, Shesh, Hot, Hesht, No, Das
As a speaker of zazaki Kurdish, the gorani dialect of Kurdish is the closest to us
Mazandarani or Tabari that you mentioned is a subset of our language Caspian
and Tabari is not a separate language from our language, that is, Caspian
Caspian languages include:
1_Mazanderani(Tabari)
2_Gilaki
3_Talyshi
4_Tati
5_Deilami
6 Semnani
7 Estrabadi
Thank you🙏