Thanks for your comment. Glad to hear that you have used the duck under variation with good results. I like Yoko Otoshi as it is a "safe" move in the sense that even if it doesn't work, you can still recover and quickly move to a different position.
I found out about that second variation quite recently at my club, i learnt it as a kataguruma. I don't know how popular it is in judo but i can see it being very effective in difficult gripping situations
That is correct. Good observation. Since there are differences in the direction of the movement, there will be some minor differences in each throw, but in a very real sense, these throws are pretty much the same thing, just done in different directions.
Thank you gentlemen, as always, the video was very informative and helpful. I tend to make this move with a "gake" action rather than an "otoshi" action in the leg (ie I hook instead of just obstructing) I also tend to use the other leg to make a "push" into the opponent's stomach to effect a better throw (I am referring to the first variation). It has quite a good percentage for me, particularly against much larger guys (I call it a giantkiller). I will definitely give the other two variations a go. :).
Thanks for your comment. The hooking motion as you describe certainly does sound like something that has a high ratio of success-and it's always good when you can throw a bigger guy. It brings to mind what one of my junior Judo students said to me many years ago; "Hey, this judo stuff works!"
The second variation is uki-waza. When classifying tani-otoshi, yoko-otoshi and uki-waza it comes down to the direction of unbalance for uke. That's the principle behind those 3 similar techniques, the direction uke is thrown.
Hi sensei I saw this video a week ago but I didn't have the time to comment. I just wanted to say that this video is excellent like I said before. I like how the grip is based on a 2-on-1 if you want to call it that. The throw itself looks tight and clean. Specifically, the way you guys demonstrated this throw(first variation) appears neither Uki Waza and Tani Otoshi. For the second variation I feel it should still be called Kata Guruma since you're going under the arm and wheeling Uke over. Besides that, one advantage I may see in it is that it allows you to get more lower under his center of gravity. Overall, because of what you taught in this video I'll consider adding this technique to my no-gi game. You may recommend the same to your students. Thank you for taking the time to fulfill my request to upload this technique and that I greatly appreciate it sensei.
Good video. I like Yoko Otoshi, but so far I've only tried it from a standard sleeve/lapel grip. Would it be possible if you could maybe do a grip fighting vid on securing a cross grip or a 2-on-1?
Also, as far as I know, this would be IJF legal. I think if you duck under an opponents arm, if say he has a top grip on you, you get a shido UNLESS you attack right from the duck.
Actually, we may have something similar to what you describe on the channel. Check the playlist for Ude Gaeshi, the Omlette Throw or even some of our sambo videos. Maybe even some of what we call "Tightwaist" Tani Otoshi on our channel might be close to what you describe. We have a 2 on 1 Sumi Gaeshi (for no gi) video planned to be on our channel around the first of the year as well. In any event, we'll play around with doing some 2 on 1 grip stuff and do a video on it.
@@welcomematstevescott Nah, that's a negative. I have a few Judogi that I still wear to BJJ class today since I used to train Judo back in the day. If you watch Judo competition at the elite level now, their uniforms fit them perfectly. These guys in the video here have gi pants and jackets that are just simply too big as well as belts being too long.
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Great stuff guys! Real particular to the duck under have used it in tournaments with great success.
Thanks for your comment. Glad to hear that you have used the duck under variation with good results. I like Yoko Otoshi as it is a "safe" move in the sense that even if it doesn't work, you can still recover and quickly move to a different position.
I found out about that second variation quite recently at my club, i learnt it as a kataguruma. I don't know how popular it is in judo but i can see it being very effective in difficult gripping situations
Great job
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I love uki waza n yoko otoshi ..they're very useful for me
Thanks for your comment. I agree. They are effective.
Is it that tani-otoshi, yoko-otoshi and uki-waza are all fundamentally the same throw but in different directions (in terms of the tori's movement)?
That is correct. Good observation. Since there are differences in the direction of the movement, there will be some minor differences in each throw, but in a very real sense, these throws are pretty much the same thing, just done in different directions.
Thank you gentlemen, as always, the video was very informative and helpful. I tend to make this move with a "gake" action rather than an "otoshi" action in the leg (ie I hook instead of just obstructing) I also tend to use the other leg to make a "push" into the opponent's stomach to effect a better throw (I am referring to the first variation). It has quite a good percentage for me, particularly against much larger guys (I call it a giantkiller). I will definitely give the other two variations a go. :).
Thanks for your comment. The hooking motion as you describe certainly does sound like something that has a high ratio of success-and it's always good when you can throw a bigger guy. It brings to mind what one of my junior Judo students said to me many years ago; "Hey, this judo stuff works!"
First one is a Tani Otoshi. Second and third are Kata Guruma variations.
The second variation is uki-waza. When classifying tani-otoshi, yoko-otoshi and uki-waza it comes down to the direction of unbalance for uke. That's the principle behind those 3 similar techniques, the direction uke is thrown.
The young fella's a better teacher. And that's the best white belt I've ever seen.
Thanks for the comment. I will pass it along.
Hi sensei I saw this video a week ago but I didn't have the time to comment. I just wanted to say that this video is excellent like I said before. I like how the grip is based on a 2-on-1 if you want to call it that. The throw itself looks tight and clean. Specifically, the way you guys demonstrated this throw(first variation) appears neither Uki Waza and Tani Otoshi. For the second variation I feel it should still be called Kata Guruma since you're going under the arm and wheeling Uke over. Besides that, one advantage I may see in it is that it allows you to get more lower under his center of gravity. Overall, because of what you taught in this video I'll consider adding this technique to my no-gi game. You may recommend the same to your students. Thank you for taking the time to fulfill my request to upload this technique and that I greatly appreciate it sensei.
Glad you liked it! As you point out, the angle of the attack determines the name of the throw. Keep watching and thanks for your support!
1:25 2 on 1 around the back variation
3:30 2 on 1 duck under variation
6:09 cross grip and sleeve duck under variation
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I love it!!!
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simple and efficient
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excellent
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The first technique is tani otoshi :)
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I know, the direction is to Uke's rear. Good call.
Good video. I like Yoko Otoshi, but so far I've only tried it from a standard sleeve/lapel grip. Would it be possible if you could maybe do a grip fighting vid on securing a cross grip or a 2-on-1?
Also, as far as I know, this would be IJF legal. I think if you duck under an opponents arm, if say he has a top grip on you, you get a shido UNLESS you attack right from the duck.
Actually, we may have something similar to what you describe on the channel. Check the playlist for Ude Gaeshi, the Omlette Throw or even some of our sambo videos. Maybe even some of what we call "Tightwaist" Tani Otoshi on our channel might be close to what you describe. We have a 2 on 1 Sumi Gaeshi (for no gi) video planned to be on our channel around the first of the year as well. In any event, we'll play around with doing some 2 on 1 grip stuff and do a video on it.
That's good to know. With the IJF rules as they are, it's hard to keep up with what is permitted and what isn't.
it s easy to confuse with kata guruma. please point out the differences.
We will have some videos on Kata Guruma upcoming in March, 2022.
Muy bien!
That second version looks like it could be used as a counter to the guillotine choke. Do you know what I mean?
Could be. Give it a try in practice and let me know how it works for you.
Why is everyone wearing an oversized gi?
Standard Judogi that meets the requirements of the contest rules. Judo uniforms are not as tight at BJJ uniforms if that's what you mean.
@@welcomematstevescott Nah, that's a negative. I have a few Judogi that I still wear to BJJ class today since I used to train Judo back in the day. If you watch Judo competition at the elite level now, their uniforms fit them perfectly. These guys in the video here have gi pants and jackets that are just simply too big as well as belts being too long.
Okay. Thanks for your opinion.