Locals who have lived near the beach all their life: "There's a bunch of reefs where you want to land." Dude in Quantico looking at grainy photos shot from 60,000 ft.: "Looks like seaweed to me, bruh."
It was actually planned to fail from the get go. The CIA was informed by cuban intelligence that they were aware of a planned invasion. The CIA in turn needed to get rid of the brigadistas, otherwise there was a threat by the brigade leaders of taking over Nicaragua if the invasion was canceled.
US Government to the Cuban Exiles before the operation begins: "Don't worry guys we've got your back". US Government to the Cuban Exiles after the operation begins: "I've never seen this man in my life".
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It was more than that I think. The CIA was under the impression that the people were already tired of Castro and were willing to fight against him, which ended up being wildly false
They just got tens of thousands of refugees fleeing from the CONCEPT of living under communism. Cubans to this day are one of the most right wing demographics in the US. They had plenty of reason to believe it was a possibility. Of course that's no substitute for knowing for sure and the CIA definitely dropped the ball on this one
I don’t understand why they didn’t just invade themselves at this point. They were trained, equipped, commanded, and transported by America, there is no deniability in this scenario. All it did was make the invasion extremely weak.
1500 men to cover a 40 mile wide 'beachhead.' Cuban exiles talking too much about the upcoming operation so Cuban intelligence knows something is up. Sending a single boat with 5 men ahead of the main force seems laughable to me. And then they find out there's literally a beachparty going on. Seems to me they did everything possible to make the operation a failure. If this was a movie, with a better script, the advance party would casually switch from wetsuits to black tie like Sean Connery 'Goldfinger.'
Transmission# 15-18 Designate: X-RAY OP 40 team inserted with Bay of Pigs forces in Cuba Target: Fidel Castro Woods, Bowman, and Mason meeting contact at Santa Maria 0500 hrs April 17, 1961
Growing up in Miami in the 80’s, we had opportunity to meet some of those men who were on those beaches; some of which managed to escape, some of which were captured and arrested for decades. You want to talk about rabidly, rabidly anti-Communist? Those guy were beyond hard core - you could just tell - and they had no love lost for Kennedy after what they perceived as an ultimate betrayal. Funny thing is, many of those men worked for the agency for years and years and it’s no wonder the Cubans of that generation who immigrated to the U.S. vowed never to vote for Democrats - they always, always, always voted Republican. Crazy times, for sure. Fantastic video.
They invaded a country and then became angry at the local government for opposing their actions. It's a clear disconnect from reality. Unfortunately very few people take responsibility for their mistakes, instead they want to double down.
@@InspiriumESOO They were liberating their government from the invaders. Maybe if they had won Cuba could keep its lights on, today. But communism is the insidious lie that appeals to everyone that hasn't lived it.
Also don't forget that because of their hardcore anti-communist sentiments, a lot of the more centre left economic policies of the democrats that were beginning to evolve throughout the latter half of the 20th century and into today are viewed by them as a slippery slope toward communism.
@@InspiriumESOOWho is "they"? The guy you're talking to is talking about Cubans. Are you retarded, or were you just so intent on spreading your political opinions you didn't bother to comprehend the guys post?
Sir, I have the list of things that can go wrong here, what should we do about it? “Go wrong? What could go wrong, we’ve planned this for 2 years! Ignore the list, it’s wrong.” Later that day… “Corporal, where is that list and why weren’t we informed?!”
My buddies and I were looking to try a new restaurant randomly one day; when we got there, an older guy asked us if we were commemorating the day. "What day?" We had randomly chosen to eat at a Cuban restaurant on April 17. Anyway the guy said he had been a M50 Ontos tanker, but never made it onto the beach. What a cluster of failure
@@homurseempsone154 Yeah, it seems like he clearly pointed out the discrepancies in the Israeli account, just like he mentioned Iraq and WMDs in their respective videos. I think some of it could be because antisemitism has been recklessly applied to any criticism of Israel, but it is still fair to point it out- I distinctly remember seeing 109-countries crap under other videos of the incident and who knows what else.
@@randomwarehouse4702 exactly, he’s about as neutral a a historian can really be while still telling all the available information. Some people can’t handle nuance though
0:10 A-26/B-26 Invader was a Medium Bomber or Attack Bomber, the USAAC requirement was for a mix between an Attack Bomber like the A-20 Havoc and a Medium Bomber like the B-26 Marauder. In payload the Invader could carry as much as the Mitchell and Marauder while being agile like a Heavy Fighter. 15:57 Invader had the guns in the nose like you said previously, not in the engines.
Kennedy never agreed to provide us aircraft for support, Dulles thought he would be forced to. Dulles should have had a plan B. Google Danny Sheehan JFK
Death by arrogance, have we ever seen this before? We'll see it again as history repeats it's self and nobody learns from it. Sad. Another Operations Room gem, well done. Look forward to part 2. Cheers.
Transmission# 15-18 Designate: X-RAY OP 40 team inserted with Bay of Pigs forces in Cuba Target: Fidel Castro Woods, Bowman, and Mason meeting contact at Santa Maria 0500 hrs April 17, 1961
@@tatumergo3931 A year later, the United States attempted to orchestrate a false flag operation as a pretext for another invasion of Cuba. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Fun fact; the bay is named after a species of triggerfish; Balistes vetula; Cochino who frequent these waters. Not actual mammalian pigs; Sus domesticus. In English Bahia de Cochino is always translated to bay of pigs.
What is weird is that Essex at the time as a pure anti-submarine carrier. I have seen references that she embarked a squadron of Skyhawks on short notice for this mission but that still hardly seems overwhelming US naval air power
Coming from people who played small parts of great things now in charge of great things with over confidence never having had to be the top dog running such great and ambitious things.
it's interesting how hypocritical the us is when it supports egypt when it nationalises foreign assets but decides to invade Cuba when they do the exact same to them
While I completely understand Kennedy's frustration and with with Alan Dullas and the CIA, "washing his hands" of the situation meant abandoning troops in the field. Providing the planned air support or even canceling the invasion would have been the honorable thing to do.
The fear was that the brigade stationed in Nicaragua if it was informed that the invasion would be canceled, they would have taken over the Nicaraguan government and create an independent base to operate from.
@@tatumergo3931 Sounds like a super strong foundation to base operations on and put your faith in then, lol. The CIA really had some great judgement in planning and setting up and orchestrating this whole operation...../s
@@DustinHorvath1987 . Except that the timing was wrong, and they had told Kennedy but he wanted to go ahead anyways. The thing was that at the time Castro was still very popular with the people, things had not started to go bad yet. Then on top of everything else the Kennedy administration was embarrassed at the U.N. by the cuban ambassador, revealing that they had known in advance about the planned invasion. They just didn't know where or when it was going to take place.
N+1 times USA underestimated the valor of their opponnent (in this case and others, their puppet's opponent). This comment is not against USA, all countries made the same mistake. (France, England, ...) Nice documentary, thx 👍
14:40 damn, they just dropped support like you would drop a toy that you didnt want to play with anymore. I really wouldn't want to be an american puppet lol
This is the one thing politically anyways that I'm not happy about how JFK handled things. He never should have pulled the air cover for those boys. Either give them the air support you guaranteed or don't allow the operation to go ahead.
I always thought it was weird that the invasion was called operation Zapata and the bush family's oil company was also called Zapata. That's a pretty strange coincidence.
Several of the pilots involved in this attack were with the Alabama Air National Guard... they were shot down. The ones that were recovered are laid to rest here in Birmingham, AL
It never stops to amaze me, how many failed military operations were launched with the goal being summarized as "It's totally gonna work out, and be good, don't worry about it!"
I knew this was a shitshow, but this was a bigger shitshow than I expected. As a guy from a country shafted by Operation Condor, I entered this video expecting to laugh at an episode of US incompetence but some of this was just bewildering.
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I can’t download it, apparently it promotes too much gambling
@@tuurderom2017 It's planned and commissioned by GW, so I'm not surprised it's as cash-grabby as possible.
Locals who have lived near the beach all their life: "There's a bunch of reefs where you want to land."
Dude in Quantico looking at grainy photos shot from 60,000 ft.: "Looks like seaweed to me, bruh."
Quantico is FBI’s academy.
CIA is sitting in Langley.
It was actually planned to fail from the get go. The CIA was informed by cuban intelligence that they were aware of a planned invasion. The CIA in turn needed to get rid of the brigadistas, otherwise there was a threat by the brigade leaders of taking over Nicaragua if the invasion was canceled.
Yeah but what do forriners really know about anything, right?
That part made me laugh and shake my head at the same time. lol
@@perciusmandate . Well there goes my comment to the whims of the algorithm....
So they don't just ignore you troops/ citizens, they ignore everyone...
US Government to the Cuban Exiles before the operation begins: "Don't worry guys we've got your back".
US Government to the Cuban Exiles after the operation begins: "I've never seen this man in my life".
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I’m doing my part!
Sure
🫡
piling on
Will do!
I never really understood the thought process of "the Cuban people just rose up to install Castro. Surely they will rise up again to overthrow him."
It was more than that I think. The CIA was under the impression that the people were already tired of Castro and were willing to fight against him, which ended up being wildly false
They just got tens of thousands of refugees fleeing from the CONCEPT of living under communism. Cubans to this day are one of the most right wing demographics in the US.
They had plenty of reason to believe it was a possibility.
Of course that's no substitute for knowing for sure and the CIA definitely dropped the ball on this one
The CIA was far too busy performing experiments on its own people to have time to do anything useful during the Cold War.
To give the idea they don’t know what they want and encourage or better grease rails for more yk…. Control and land grabs and such
It's a classic false assumption that has been made many times. "Surely the people will rise up and start a spontaneous revolution!" Lol
I don’t understand why they didn’t just invade themselves at this point. They were trained, equipped, commanded, and transported by America, there is no deniability in this scenario. All it did was make the invasion extremely weak.
1500 men to cover a 40 mile wide 'beachhead.'
Cuban exiles talking too much about the upcoming operation so Cuban intelligence knows something is up.
Sending a single boat with 5 men ahead of the main force seems laughable to me. And then they find out there's literally a beachparty going on.
Seems to me they did everything possible to make the operation a failure.
If this was a movie, with a better script, the advance party would casually switch from wetsuits to black tie like Sean Connery 'Goldfinger.'
Interrogator:"61. Bay of Pigs.What happened?"
Mason:"We've all got killed."
"The police are gonna be here soon. Let's make this quick."
Transmission# 15-18 Designate: X-RAY
OP 40 team inserted with Bay of Pigs forces in Cuba
Target: Fidel Castro
Woods, Bowman, and Mason meeting contact at Santa Maria
0500 hrs April 17, 1961
@@rramos117 . Carlos:"Woods, it's been a while."
“What are those numbers Mason!”
@@rramos117😂😂loopooooo
It’s funny how I have heard about it the bay of pigs many times but knew nothing about it until now
sounds like youre to blame there
@@wlpxx7 sounds like youre to blame there
Same
@@wlpxx7 did you know anything about this person before you past judgement?
I watched the TV show about it lol it was pretty good.
Growing up in Miami in the 80’s, we had opportunity to meet some of those men who were on those beaches; some of which managed to escape, some of which were captured and arrested for decades. You want to talk about rabidly, rabidly anti-Communist? Those guy were beyond hard core - you could just tell - and they had no love lost for Kennedy after what they perceived as an ultimate betrayal. Funny thing is, many of those men worked for the agency for years and years and it’s no wonder the Cubans of that generation who immigrated to the U.S. vowed never to vote for Democrats - they always, always, always voted Republican. Crazy times, for sure. Fantastic video.
It’s crazy nowadays republicans love communists states. It’s a wild time to see this flip
They invaded a country and then became angry at the local government for opposing their actions. It's a clear disconnect from reality. Unfortunately very few people take responsibility for their mistakes, instead they want to double down.
@@InspiriumESOO They were liberating their government from the invaders.
Maybe if they had won Cuba could keep its lights on, today. But communism is the insidious lie that appeals to everyone that hasn't lived it.
Also don't forget that because of their hardcore anti-communist sentiments, a lot of the more centre left economic policies of the democrats that were beginning to evolve throughout the latter half of the 20th century and into today are viewed by them as a slippery slope toward communism.
@@InspiriumESOOWho is "they"? The guy you're talking to is talking about Cubans. Are you retarded, or were you just so intent on spreading your political opinions you didn't bother to comprehend the guys post?
“The rebels are getting their asses kicked, and the b-26s aren’t hitting anything”
its a-26 not b-26, b26 is another plane
@@RottenFlesh-we6nu Somebody missed the CoD, Black Ops reference
@@RottenFlesh-we6nuA-26s were redesignated B-26s after the Martin B-26 went out of service.
Sir, I have the list of things that can go wrong here, what should we do about it?
“Go wrong? What could go wrong, we’ve planned this for 2 years! Ignore the list, it’s wrong.”
Later that day…
“Corporal, where is that list and why weren’t we informed?!”
A topic we did not expect, but one that will bring new light for us all!
My buddies and I were looking to try a new restaurant randomly one day; when we got there, an older guy asked us if we were commemorating the day. "What day?"
We had randomly chosen to eat at a Cuban restaurant on April 17. Anyway the guy said he had been a M50 Ontos tanker, but never made it onto the beach.
What a cluster of failure
Where's our naval support?
"naval support broke'
And our air support?
"Air support broke"
What's our Plan B?
"We don't need to plan. Something will happen."
Putting pictures of the various military equipment is a nice touch. 👍
@TheOperationsRoom bracing for the impact of all the JFK conspiracy theories:
His video on the Liberty incident had them out in force, calling him a sellout and whatnot
@@homurseempsone154 Yeah, it seems like he clearly pointed out the discrepancies in the Israeli account, just like he mentioned Iraq and WMDs in their respective videos. I think some of it could be because antisemitism has been recklessly applied to any criticism of Israel, but it is still fair to point it out- I distinctly remember seeing 109-countries crap under other videos of the incident and who knows what else.
@@homurseempsone154I believe a lot of them left after the Ukraine truck thing.
@@bruhtholemew Not sure what you mean, could you elaborate?
@@randomwarehouse4702 exactly, he’s about as neutral a a historian can really be while still telling all the available information. Some people can’t handle nuance though
Great video. This is an engagement that ive heard a lot about but know very little of. Excellent way to be educated
I struggle to believe that the CIA actually thought this would work, no part of the plan seemed to be well thought out
No, I did not see this coming! Well done!
Hands down, one of the best channels on RUclips.
0:10 A-26/B-26 Invader was a Medium Bomber or Attack Bomber, the USAAC requirement was for a mix between an Attack Bomber like the A-20 Havoc and a Medium Bomber like the B-26 Marauder. In payload the Invader could carry as much as the Mitchell and Marauder while being agile like a Heavy Fighter.
15:57 Invader had the guns in the nose like you said previously, not in the engines.
I replied and then realised I'd misread your comment, so have now deleted it. Quite right!
So you're telling me there weren't actually any pig combatants fighting there?
How dare you, Lazerpigs grandfather was there wielding a claymore.
Love your animated visualizations. Thanks for your hard work.
Excellent content as ever
Thank you for constantly and consistently putting out historical lessons!
YES I love your videos man keep up the good work
Phenomenal work, Thanks.
Man. I just moved, and feel so out of place, but hearing your voice commentate major military actions always brings me home. Love the content!
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage episode about Pigs Island wars 1961
This battle has always been a gap in my knowledge of military history in the 20th century. Thank you for a great tutorial!
Kennedy never agreed to provide us aircraft for support, Dulles thought he would be forced to. Dulles should have had a plan B. Google Danny Sheehan JFK
Thank you for all the hard work, great videos and coverage of lesser known topics!
Death by arrogance, have we ever seen this before? We'll see it again as history repeats it's self and nobody learns from it. Sad. Another Operations Room gem, well done. Look forward to part 2. Cheers.
Transmission# 15-18 Designate: X-RAY
OP 40 team inserted with Bay of Pigs forces in Cuba
Target: Fidel Castro
Woods, Bowman, and Mason meeting contact at Santa Maria
0500 hrs April 17, 1961
Bay of "Pigs" indeed
They promised these Cuban exiles all of the support and supplies but then leave them out to die.
Classic democrat move
@@fananderson3913 "WMDs."
@@addysong1628. The WMD's happened a year later when the cuban government in conjunction with the Soviet Union started bringing in missiles.
@@tatumergo3931 A year later, the United States attempted to orchestrate a false flag operation as a pretext for another invasion of Cuba. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Can’t wait for part 2!
With that kittle resources: doomed even before start. Thx ops room
I was wondering when you guys were to feature this operation. Fantastic job as always lads!
a treat as always
Great coverage TOR.
Fun fact; the bay is named after a species of triggerfish; Balistes vetula; Cochino who frequent these waters. Not actual mammalian pigs; Sus domesticus. In English Bahia de Cochino is always translated to bay of pigs.
Sus??? Amogus
@@TheDAWinz its the Latin Scientific name for domestic pig.
I love how far the meaning of “plausible” is stretched in the term “plausible deniability” 🤣
Seems like it D-Day but with everything done wrong
I can’t be left on a cliffhanger. I need part 2
Certainly an unexpected birthday present, but I’ll definitely take it!
Happy Birthday!
Omg yes, thank you for your videos, always a joy to watch!!!!
What is weird is that Essex at the time as a pure anti-submarine carrier. I have seen references that she embarked a squadron of Skyhawks on short notice for this mission but that still hardly seems overwhelming US naval air power
Thanks for posting!
This gonna be good
Im still astonished with how ambitious was the plan!
Coming from people who played small parts of great things now in charge of great things with over confidence never having had to be the top dog running such great and ambitious things.
You say ambitious I say delusional.
Great explanation 👌
it's interesting how hypocritical the us is when it supports egypt when it nationalises foreign assets but decides to invade Cuba when they do the exact same to them
Cold War events are so interesting to hear about
The whole historical period was more fun, and exciting than any other instance in history....
Very illuminating.
Truly a certified Renzov moment
HELL YA JUST IN TIME FOR DINNER!
Great show
While I completely understand Kennedy's frustration and with with Alan Dullas and the CIA, "washing his hands" of the situation meant abandoning troops in the field. Providing the planned air support or even canceling the invasion would have been the honorable thing to do.
The fear was that the brigade stationed in Nicaragua if it was informed that the invasion would be canceled, they would have taken over the Nicaraguan government and create an independent base to operate from.
@@tatumergo3931 Sounds like a super strong foundation to base operations on and put your faith in then, lol. The CIA really had some great judgement in planning and setting up and orchestrating this whole operation...../s
@@DustinHorvath1987 . Except that the timing was wrong, and they had told Kennedy but he wanted to go ahead anyways.
The thing was that at the time Castro was still very popular with the people, things had not started to go bad yet.
Then on top of everything else the Kennedy administration was embarrassed at the U.N. by the cuban ambassador, revealing that they had known in advance about the planned invasion. They just didn't know where or when it was going to take place.
Great video, as always! Also, many thanks from Ukraine!
N+1 times USA underestimated the valor of their opponnent (in this case and others, their puppet's opponent).
This comment is not against USA, all countries made the same mistake. (France, England, ...)
Nice documentary, thx 👍
Excellent work.
Love your content
14:40 damn, they just dropped support like you would drop a toy that you didnt want to play with anymore. I really wouldn't want to be an american puppet lol
If you want to know more about Allen Dulles, I highly recommend the book "The Devil's Chess board". Very well written and eye opening.
The good old US, always reliable to have your back 🙄
BAY OF PIGS? MORE LIKE BAY OF FAILURES? AM I RIGHT?
I’ll see myself out
No mate. You’re spot on!
@@geordiedog1749 Bye lol (that was a good one)
This is the one thing politically anyways that I'm not happy about how JFK handled things. He never should have pulled the air cover for those boys. Either give them the air support you guaranteed or don't allow the operation to go ahead.
I’m pretty sure my grandfather flew some sort of reconnaissance mission for the bay of pigs
One day...... I hope you would end up doing a segment for Battle of Guningtou.
You and your crew are culturally indispensable.
I always thought it was weird that the invasion was called operation Zapata and the bush family's oil company was also called Zapata. That's a pretty strange coincidence.
This is yet another mentioned part of "We didn't start the fire" that I now understand
Several of the pilots involved in this attack were with the Alabama Air National Guard... they were shot down.
The ones that were recovered are laid to rest here in Birmingham, AL
It never stops to amaze me, how many failed military operations were launched with the goal being summarized as "It's totally gonna work out, and be good, don't worry about it!"
Great content
I'd heard of the Bay of Pigs before but had no idea what, where, when, or why it happened.
"something will happen"
This one's gonna be interesting!
This reminds me of the joke: The best known assassin is also the worst assassin.
The 1st phase can be summed up with "I don't have a fucking clue what our guys doing"
The numbers, Mason.
wow i remember seeing the B-26 with cuban markings on Miami but being so confused as to why it exist in the first place. great video OR!
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I’m excited
OMG THIS IS AWESOME 👌 😎
A comment? You got it boss!
I've always wondered about what happened during the Bay of Pigs.
I knew it was a Charlie Foxtrot, I never knew how bad it was.
I knew this was a shitshow, but this was a bigger shitshow than I expected.
As a guy from a country shafted by Operation Condor, I entered this video expecting to laugh at an episode of US incompetence but some of this was just bewildering.
Classic case of military planners (or intelligence officers) assuming their problems away. Always plan for the worst case scenario.
Terrific video! This has to be one of the most incompetently conceived and executed "invasions" in military history! 😲😂☠
Heck yeah dude
Something did happen!
Bissell was right.
Don't look up who founded the company that allowed their oil rigs to be used as listening posts during this operation. Worst mistake of my life!
The Abyss: Nuclear Crisis Cuba 1962
Book by Max Hastings. Very interesting and fascinating.
That was the second part of movie.....hahaha!
Starting to understand why the CIA took out JFK...
“61, Bay of Pigs, what happened?”
“We all got killed.”
Seeing how the first Landing in Trinidad was re thought how bout doing a vid on the attempted Coup in Trinidad in 1990
Bay of pigs is going on
POV:Meanwhile on the other side of this bay of pigs
In Rulsuka ship in Cuba port
DRAGOVICH:I got plans for you American 👿
Nice vid
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