I will certainly look forward to any vids of this, be nice to see it doing a bit of ditching eventually. We had something similar to these on the council years ago, gluttons for punishment. The opening front shovel was very handy especially for shifting hot tarmac which at that time was dumped on the road and moved to the levelers by the tractor shovel.
I would like to see you work on the 40 digger Dan. This is interesting Dan I would like to see you sort all the problems on her out and bring her back to life and look forward to seeing her finished and all the steps to get there. Great video Dan thank you.
They were very popular as a loader tractor at most colliery,s. The one I worked at had one with just the loader and had linkage on the rear for pulling a tipping trailer. It was thrashed everyday of it's life but they could not break it. It left when the pit shut.
The company bought a brand new 50B in 1976 P reg. They had other older MF's also. I remember that the balls on the rear spool levers used to have thumb and finger grooves worn in them by operator use. I remember the fan belt was difficult because you had a coolant rad and a torque converter rad which caused problems. we used to fit an extra fan belt on so if the first belt broke you already had a spare fitted around the pump prop. I remember that a serious fault was on that wishbone like forward / backwards / throttle pedal unit shaft. There was a shaft in the side of the bell housing and it used to get a lot of wear. This meant that the amount of play in the bush took up all of the movement and then the throttle side would start to rev up the engine and at some point the drive would kick in quite aggressively and the machine would try and do a wheelie going forwards and spin the wheels going backwards. To repair this fault meant completely splitting the transmission to remove and replace the shaft bush from the inside. A LOT of work.! when this happened the company used to get rid. we went over to JCB because they were a much better machine all round.
I have a 50b of similar vintage so would be intrigued to see you working on yours. I did note your comment about the fan belt and agree it must be awkward as the previous owner of mine fitted two extra and tied them out of the way.
Looks similar to a few I have seen some with a loader but a weight on the rear and others with the rear bucket being put onto another machine. Up here in the islands of Scotland they used to be massive fans of massy machinery and would modify and swap all sorts of parts to make what they needed
Yes Dan I would be interested in following its progress, as usual very informative video. Sorry about my dopey picture link son keeps changing it regards Michael
Hi Dan great channel, love your vintage stuff, I have a bunch of old Massey and Ferguson tractors and implements, just not enough time to play with it all. Perhaps you could do a video to run through of all of your vintage stuff and get feedback on what viewers would like to see running?? 😀👍👍
As you requested - "I am going to guide you on What happens! 🤣😅", Yes, PLEASE feature this machine in your Video channel. I am sure lots of others would like to see this also. (P.S. Where you find the time to do all of this is beyond me). Keep up the good work mate 👍
Dan, FP McCann Ltd in NI paint all their plant the same shade of blue as in your 40. Also, to this day a lot of their wheeled diggers have no back actors with compressors fitted on the back.
Hi Dan, i would love to see the work you do on the digger. At the vintage tractor club worshop i attended before the lock down the brakes were attended to on one of those machines, it has discs and shoe's, something to do with regulations at the time folks seemed to think. Great video as always.
Oh that's a grand machine you've got there: I 've still got mine "J"reg round axles: dry brakes are a pain but otherwise OK. will run rings around most 50 - 100hp Loaders On Concrete - mucking out FYM. We've removed cab for access to low buildings and were lucky to get waht was at the time, the LAST of those Manifolds - same problem . It is still used almost daily - have fitted linkage and will easily pull our 3-F 14" plough depsite what folk say about Torqs. Look after the oil and front pump drive and she's good to go for a LONG time . ( don't talk about power steering pumps tho' !! good to see you have the Original style of tyres still fitted - but missing full complement of front wheel weights. Got a problem - gimme a call - we have a good 50B as well for the flat8/10 work as required - faster on soft stubbles and Hills! Thanks for posting - you got the same work boots as me too - howzat :-)
Would love to see everything you do on this Digger. On the green paint. It looks like Murphy green. Maybe it was in construction or demolition for a while
The 40 TLB was an amazingly punchy piece of kit. M REG would put it between August 73 and July 74. I drove one on my student farm between 79 and 83. They were a very fast little loader and the digger was powerful for it's size. It was a bit knackering if you spent all day on it. Needed ear defenders on the road! The first time I drove it I found the foot shuttle needed some getting used to but brilliant once mastered. The one I used had a 4in1 from new and made it very versatile. The cabs were better than nothing I think the one I drove had a defunct Smith heater. I believe the cabs were built by Cabcraft for Massey. I think the 4 in 1 bucket may have been Rubery Owen (like some of the Drotts of that era). I wonder if the one here was run by one of the big road contractors with just a weight or a compressor. Some used to paint in their own colours.
I would like to see it working some ditches or anything else with the back bucket. You could have it to load straw on the chopper, it would be usefull for Job like that
Prob not the most popular opinion but if you're restoring this you should clean it up and keep the patina with all the mixed colours, just clear spray it to gloss it up, that'd be unique as anything. You'd get to keep all that rich history of the machine.
Hello Dan A friend of mine had one and I used to repair his farm machinery. Your machine looks like it's had a hard life with the loader. When you are changing the fan belts check the bushes in the front axle as the drive to the hydraulic pump goes through the front axle . Any significant wear in the bushes will result in a snapped drive shaft losing all hydraulic power. Brian's broke it's shaft when we were trying to walk it through a wet patch! can't remember how we got it out but it definitely wasn't under it's own steam
Thanks for sharing this video Dan yes would love to see more on the Massey digger progress,was that a 2640 in the background or not would love to see some videos on that as well thanks
Best of luck with latest purchase Dan, looking forward to watching more videos of it working/getting serviced. How deep would you think the backactor would dig?
Nice machine & project. Just my opinion but it might possibly be cheaper to keep your eye out for a 1/2 decent used 4in1 replacement bucket than be refurbishing that 1, yes it's possible but it requires a large amount of work to bring it back something like.I think a replacement would be a cheaper option. I don't know the prices on these aftermarket bucket manufacturers but it'd be interesting price wise the price of a new bucket. Some of the plant guys trade theirs in every few years, one of the trade in's could be worth looking at. I could be wrong but it's worth looking into.I'm looking forward to future repair & refurbishment videos.
I am a sucker for an old battered pile of scrap, even better if they work👍😊. It has a wiff off whitlock about it or is that just me? I think your right, she's got the wrong bucket and I doubt it was the original back actor on it but I've gotta admit, she looks like she's got some lifting power! I look forward to seeing you use it in anger 😊
Hi Dan a man beside me has a digger like that with the high cab but he has a compressor on the back of his he told me that it came like the from the dealer when he got it you could choose it or the back actor
Just been looking through eBay and there is one being broken on there. Only issue for you maybe is that it is in Doncaster. Maybe worth contacting him looks to be a complete machine.
@@CowfarmerDan I have just checked again it's still on there. Try typing in the item number 224034662310. They are listed in the tractor section as Massey Ferguson industrial loader. He has 3 separate listings so check on his other items for sale button to see the rest. Hope this helps
I am not sure but I think backhoe belonged to Mozes, I like how you minimise the amount of wear in a machine that is worn out-rooted it's probably a way of making your self feel better about purchasing a heap.
Hello how's things, could you possibly tell me why my back boom and bucket creaps down on its own. There is no oil leaks thanks I have the same mf40 but my ones manual box
CowfarmerDan i havent really looked,il asked him i think he said it was torque converter fault,he is an old school Massey mechanic but he just dont use it parked Ill get some pictures of it.
@@CowfarmerDan Thanks for your reply. I have a Massey Ferguson MF40 with what appears to be the same backhoe but hard to identify the actual model. Here is mine...ruclips.net/video/qM8fgPaSDis/видео.html
I love Massey tractors, but you can see why JCB were light years ahead when it came to making a backhoe. Good project though, and Ive seen plenty that are worse than this one. And it will do you a turn at the farm for odd jobs here and there for years to come.
Great you have bought another interesting machine to the channel I would 100% enjoy watching any repair work on it Dan 👍
It will be a interesting project, great vid as usual love the vintage Thursday. 👍👍
Would definitely love to see more of this Dan! Great little purchase
Looking forward to seeing more of this as a project, very interesting machine.
Looking good I would love to see any repairs you do. Love watching your videos 👍👍
Great video dan, nice looking vintage machine. Be great see you working on it and how it comes along.
Good video Dan, always look forward to Thursdays👍👍👍
Interesting project Dan, look forward to it .
Hi Dan nice little unit be great seeing some more videos
Good Morning Dan , thank you for the video, and yes more videos on the progress of the digger!! Take care and stay safe 👍😎🇬🇧.
Great video and yes would love to see the restoration 👍
Great little tool. Very handy and nimble 👍
That's a nice project, looks like with time it will be a useful tool. Hope to see more progress updates please.
Awesome bit of kit they were can’t wait to see that transfer in to a good working tractor 😀😀
All for a few digger videos Dan! Another very interesting video thanks 👍
Yep would like to see more of it!
Nice vid as usual. Yes I'd like to see you do the digger up to working order. Thanks again
Yes would be great to see more videos on this machine as you work on it.
Yes I’d love to see the work being done Thanks Dan.
Aidan
Cavan
Ireland
Same cab as the MF40 loader we had, ours had a weight box that used the same back hacker mounts. great little work horse.
That transmission system on them I thought was brilliant once u got the hang of it 👍 look forward to seein the mechanical overhaul Dan 👍👍
Love the new digger. I'd love to more videos on it👍
Great video Dan really enjoying content top job 👍
Got a machine just the same 2 birds nesting in it was a cemetery machine new fitted liners all good
Great to see in action
👍👌🇨🇦❤, great find Dan, definitely would like to see any video you doing maintenance or work with this little digger
I will certainly look forward to any vids of this, be nice to see it doing a bit of ditching eventually. We had something similar to these on the council years ago, gluttons for punishment. The opening front shovel was very handy especially for shifting hot tarmac which at that time was dumped on the road and moved to the levelers by the tractor shovel.
Great video and yest to seeing you do some work on it.
Keep up the good work, great videos, it would be good to see the digger being done up
I want to see more about the digger dan and great video as always
Seems a good addition to the fleet dan , just needs a new bucket and few things!👍
I would like to see you work on the 40 digger Dan. This is interesting Dan I would like to see you sort all the problems on her out and bring her back to life and look forward to seeing her finished and all the steps to get there. Great video Dan thank you.
Good video on a classic Massey digger, I would like to see the video’s of the repairs
Nice new old toy like it.
Nice one. I have an old 203mk2 with a Schaeff back actor from 1965. Great little machine. It will be interesting to see the comparisons.
I would love to see all the maintenance and repair ,I have a 65 industrial with a loader and the same transmission as your tractor😁
We’ve got one that’s used to be green it was from an air feild mate before we restored it
Yeah I’d be interested in seeing this featuring in a couple of your videos please, Dan
They were very popular as a loader tractor at most colliery,s. The one I worked at had one with just the loader and had linkage on the rear for pulling a tipping trailer. It was thrashed everyday of it's life but they could not break it. It left when the pit shut.
The company bought a brand new 50B in 1976 P reg. They had other older MF's also. I remember that the balls on the rear spool levers used to have thumb and finger grooves worn in them by operator use. I remember the fan belt was difficult because you had a coolant rad and a torque converter rad which caused problems. we used to fit an extra fan belt on so if the first belt broke you already had a spare fitted around the pump prop. I remember that a serious fault was on that wishbone like forward / backwards / throttle pedal unit shaft. There was a shaft in the side of the bell housing and it used to get a lot of wear. This meant that the amount of play in the bush took up all of the movement and then the throttle side would start to rev up the engine and at some point the drive would kick in quite aggressively and the machine would try and do a wheelie going forwards and spin the wheels going backwards. To repair this fault meant completely splitting the transmission to remove and replace the shaft bush from the inside. A LOT of work.! when this happened the company used to get rid. we went over to JCB because they were a much better machine all round.
I have a 50b of similar vintage so would be intrigued to see you working on yours. I did note your comment about the fan belt and agree it must be awkward as the previous owner of mine fitted two extra and tied them out of the way.
Looks similar to a few I have seen some with a loader but a weight on the rear and others with the rear bucket being put onto another machine. Up here in the islands of Scotland they used to be massive fans of massy machinery and would modify and swap all sorts of parts to make what they needed
Yes Dan I would be interested in following its progress, as usual very informative video. Sorry about my dopey picture link son keeps changing it regards Michael
Hi Dan great channel, love your vintage stuff, I have a bunch of old Massey and Ferguson tractors and implements, just not enough time to play with it all. Perhaps you could do a video to run through of all of your vintage stuff and get feedback on what viewers would like to see running?? 😀👍👍
As you requested - "I am going to guide you on What happens! 🤣😅", Yes, PLEASE feature this machine in your Video channel. I am sure lots of others would like to see this also. (P.S. Where you find the time to do all of this is beyond me). Keep up the good work mate 👍
yeah.lets see the renovations
Dan, FP McCann Ltd in NI paint all their plant the same shade of blue as in your 40. Also, to this day a lot of their wheeled diggers have no back actors with compressors fitted on the back.
Hi Dan, i would love to see the work you do on the digger. At the vintage tractor club worshop i attended before the lock down the brakes were attended to on one of those machines, it has discs and shoe's, something to do with regulations at the time folks seemed to think. Great video as always.
They needed 2 separate braking systems, discs for stopping and drums for the hand brake.
Ah that explains it then, thank you.
Oh that's a grand machine you've got there: I 've still got mine "J"reg round axles: dry brakes are a pain but otherwise OK. will run rings around most 50 - 100hp Loaders On Concrete - mucking out FYM. We've removed cab for access to low buildings and were lucky to get waht was at the time, the LAST of those Manifolds - same problem . It is still used almost daily - have fitted linkage and will easily pull our 3-F 14" plough depsite what folk say about Torqs. Look after the oil and front pump drive and she's good to go for a LONG time . ( don't talk about power steering pumps tho' !! good to see you have the Original style of tyres still fitted - but missing full complement of front wheel weights. Got a problem - gimme a call - we have a good 50B as well for the flat8/10 work as required - faster on soft stubbles and Hills! Thanks for posting - you got the same work boots as me too - howzat :-)
Would like to see some more vids on the digger please very interesting
Hi Dan , I agree wholeheartedly with Nick Hill, most interesting to watch !
Excellent Video Dan - More of the same please
Great video. Exactly the same as mine. Unfortunately mine has a worsening leak from the bell housing. So will need to be split.
Would love to see everything you do on this Digger. On the green paint. It looks like Murphy green. Maybe it was in construction or demolition for a while
Love to see digger going mover
The 40 TLB was an amazingly punchy piece of kit. M REG would put it between August 73 and July 74. I drove one on my student farm between 79 and 83. They were a very fast little loader and the digger was powerful for it's size. It was a bit knackering if you spent all day on it. Needed ear defenders on the road!
The first time I drove it I found the foot shuttle needed some getting used to but brilliant once mastered. The one I used had a 4in1 from new and made it very versatile. The cabs were better than nothing I think the one I drove had a defunct Smith heater. I believe the cabs were built by Cabcraft for Massey. I think the 4 in 1 bucket may have been Rubery Owen (like some of the Drotts of that era).
I wonder if the one here was run by one of the big road contractors with just a weight or a compressor. Some used to paint in their own colours.
I would like to see it working some ditches or anything else with the back bucket. You could have it to load straw on the chopper, it would be usefull for Job like that
Definitely want to see more of this machine, as I have been thinking of buying something similar.
We used to have one was a cracking little digger
Definitely show videos on this 👍
Prob not the most popular opinion but if you're restoring this you should clean it up and keep the patina with all the mixed colours, just clear spray it to gloss it up, that'd be unique as anything. You'd get to keep all that rich history of the machine.
Hello Dan
A friend of mine had one and I used to repair his farm machinery. Your machine looks like it's had a hard life with the loader. When you are changing the fan belts check the bushes in the front axle as the drive to the hydraulic pump goes through the front axle . Any significant wear in the bushes will result in a snapped drive shaft losing all hydraulic power. Brian's broke it's shaft when we were trying to walk it through a wet patch! can't remember how we got it out but it definitely wasn't under it's own steam
Like to see it restored
i would also like to see more vids of the digger
The one I used had the same cab on it
Thanks for sharing this video Dan yes would love to see more on the Massey digger progress,was that a 2640 in the background or not would love to see some videos on that as well thanks
Not a 2640, a 698.
There's a couple of videos with it in.
Go back through to January.
The green looks like Murphy
Yes Dan would like to see the MF 40 repair to working order thanks
All the ones we has still had all the hyds and pto
Best of luck with latest purchase Dan, looking forward to watching more videos of it working/getting serviced.
How deep would you think the backactor would dig?
I think that a Heinz 57, started as a tractor had all bits added.
one of my relations had two of them one with a digger on the back and the other with a weight
Nice machine & project. Just my opinion but it might possibly be cheaper to keep your eye out for a 1/2 decent used 4in1 replacement bucket than be refurbishing that 1, yes it's possible but it requires a large amount of work to bring it back something like.I think a replacement would be a cheaper option. I don't know the prices on these aftermarket bucket manufacturers but it'd be interesting price wise the price of a new bucket. Some of the plant guys trade theirs in every few years, one of the trade in's could be worth looking at. I could be wrong but it's worth looking into.I'm looking forward to future repair & refurbishment videos.
I reckon it is fair to say that the newness has worn off that beast!
I am a sucker for an old battered pile of scrap, even better if they work👍😊. It has a wiff off whitlock about it or is that just me? I think your right, she's got the wrong bucket and I doubt it was the original back actor on it but I've gotta admit, she looks like she's got some lifting power! I look forward to seeing you use it in anger 😊
Nifty little digger, quick question what is the “tank” on the back actor pivot for ?
That's the slew motor, instead of rams to swing left and right.
Just been looking on eBay and there’s an industrial Massey cab with the glass u need for £100 near Doncaster
I think/hope you know my answer Dan!.... It's a yes.
It's not short on hydraulic power that's for sure.
Plenty of power still 👍
Looks a handy old machine to have. Get a euro headstock made for it and then you've got another backup loader
The council had a lot with compressors and Jack hammers on.
Have you still got this in your collection Dan?? Would be nice to have a catch up with this in a vintage thursday video👍 many thanks micky
Yes, still here 👍
Let's see more of this machine could be wrong but I think it was a firm which I think was called Murphy's that painted there machine's green
Thanks Dan, how's the restoration of the MF40 coming on?
Hi Dan a man beside me has a digger like that with the high cab but he has a compressor on the back of his he told me that it came like the from the dealer when he got it you could choose it or the back actor
That's interesting, thanks.
@@CowfarmerDan I'll try and get a photo of it and any information from him how can I send it to you without going through RUclips
Cowfarmerdan@gmail.com
DFS sales happen Boxing Day Dan, that’ll be perfect for the seat issue lol. Nice lil tractor though joking aside.
I'll be on the doorstep at 6am 😁
CowfarmerDan, lol, brilliant. Leather though, not fabric of course.
Hello sir how are you getting on the the digger any more repairs done
A Farmer and also an Archaeologist with a degree in forensic science 🤠
Just been looking through eBay and there is one being broken on there. Only issue for you maybe is that it is in Doncaster. Maybe worth contacting him looks to be a complete machine.
I've had a look, can't see it?
@@CowfarmerDan I have just checked again it's still on there. Try typing in the item number 224034662310. They are listed in the tractor section as Massey Ferguson industrial loader. He has 3 separate listings so check on his other items for sale button to see the rest. Hope this helps
Found it, thanks.
I am not sure but I think backhoe belonged to Mozes, I like how you minimise the amount of wear in a machine that is worn out-rooted it's probably a way of making your self feel better about purchasing a heap.
I've emailed Moses to ask for the machines history.
Just waiting on the reply.
@@CowfarmerDan great answer.
We have a restored version of that
How many old masseys have you and what are the numbers
I've not counted recently!
Hello how's things, could you possibly tell me why my back boom and bucket creaps down on its own. There is no oil leaks thanks
I have the same mf40 but my ones manual box
If it's not leaking externally, it'll be leaking internally.
Either ram seals or spool block.
@@CowfarmerDan thanks. Will check them out
It looks like it is made by steelfab,they made the mf 80 loader
My mate has one of these for sale by bristol airport!
Its alot tidyer and only fault is it wont get in reverse,its going to be sold for scrap if not.
Was it on Ebay a few months ago?
I was in touch with a seller near the airport.
Don't let it be scrapped!
CowfarmerDan no its sat in the field as he wants it gone,was going to export but he was let down!
Is it dry clutch or instant reverse transmission?
CowfarmerDan i havent really looked,il asked him i think he said it was torque converter fault,he is an old school Massey mechanic but he just dont use it parked
Ill get some pictures of it.
Cowfarmerdan@gmail.com if you get any photos 😊
That door looks like it was the same as a old for door if u think it is I have glass that will fit it if u would like it
Thanks, I'll take a few measurements.
@@CowfarmerDan no problem I have the door aswell all as 1 part better than the rust on your 1 if it is the same door u can have the door an glass
Can you tell me the model number of that backactor or backhoe (as we call it in Aus.). thanks Mate.
The model number section of the serial plate is blank, so I guess it was made for a 40 and didn't have a separate number?
@@CowfarmerDan Thanks for your reply. I have a Massey Ferguson MF40 with what appears to be the same backhoe but hard to identify the actual model. Here is mine...ruclips.net/video/qM8fgPaSDis/видео.html
Mine is a little different as it doesn't have the seat on, but apart from that looks the same.
Do you know if yours is UK made?
@@CowfarmerDan Sorry, not sure where it was made.
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I love Massey tractors, but you can see why JCB were light years ahead when it came to making a backhoe. Good project though, and Ive seen plenty that are worse than this one. And it will do you a turn at the farm for odd jobs here and there for years to come.
What about having a shave then
Nope.