We have a MF 50 Industrial with loader,, Great machine.. It used to have a huge compressor on the back you could run air tools off it,, They are great engines in these,, go all day on 1 gallon.. Great video.
Just to let you know, those engines run a CAV injection pump and they are notorious for the main pump shaft seals leaking diesel into the crankcase of the engine where it bolts on. So you can buy a pump rebuild kit cheap and either overhaul it or just replace the main seal. Otherwise your engine oil will continually be diluted with diesel. 👍🤙😁🇦🇺
Awesome, love thy Massey Ferguson!!!!!!! On a different note anybody ever tell You ,you look like number 48 old crew chief. I have a 1959 M-F 50 gas & not a industrial but it does everything I need her to do, also I bought a 2018 M-F 1526 diesel with a front end loader & 4 WD. & it does all the other chores.Thanks for the video.
We purchased one of these in 1979. It had 4900 hours on it. We proceeded to use it much like a forklift at a sawmill for many years as well as on our land as we turned a full section of timbered land into productive fields. By the time the hour meter quit it had over 11000 hours on it. That was in 1992. It still runs to this day for snow plowing in the winter and packing firewood and general acreage work during the summer. It has never had anything done to the engine other than have the starter replaced. I have to believe it is pushing close to 15 or 16 thousand hours on it. We replaced a broken gear on the left side. I think it was like a planetary ring gear but I can't be sure as I was 14 years old at the time and I am now 52. Other than a certain person running it for several years without greasing a thing causing one of the front wheels to fall off, it's never broken down. The sound of the tractor starting in this video is so evocative and reminds me so clearly of running that tractor though my childhood and teen years. Amazing machine. Thanks for posting such a nostalgia-inducing video for me!!!
Used it for farming! It’d pull a plough or trailer, blow its electrics, blew its head, brakes, hydraulics etc, I hated it with a vengeance. Couldn’t pull start it because it had multi power, and the local farmers got used to pulling me out of fields. I have a looong list of hates about them 😏
The Zetor was excellent, had it over 30 years ands it’s still going! Reliable, efficient, cheap to run and easy to work on, apart from the brakes, miss that tractor
Got one just like that running 2 years ago, it sat for over a dozen years, just needed a battery. Oil was good and just put some fresh red die, tapped the starter and it came to life. They are great tractors, the one I got is destroyed, the backhoe got ripped of the rear rails to slide the hoe side to side.
The sound of this tractor is permanently engraved in my brain My grandfather had one it now belongs to my dad never seen it break. Paps not happy it sits outside now I plan on repainting it and getting the backhoe for it one day
I have a newer MF30E with a power shuttle and I can verify they are incredibly difficult to operate without brakes. The best thing I did was rebuild the brakes to make it more user friendly. She's a tank! Thanks for sharing 👍😁
@@ranwhenpark3d good deal! Mine came pre-wired with a toggle switch for forward. Flip the switch up to engage the clutches for forward motion. This allows the tractor to travel forward without having to constantly hold the pedal; adjust the throttle and off you go.
I have a MF30, with the the same Perkins. I rebuilt mine. Parts are cheap. I used RF Engines for my parts. Cylinder liners are "dry", they are a challenge to remove and replace, but definitely doable. I have the puller made, if you need anything fell free to reach out.
Hi. I bought a MF 50A looks just like yours. Before I started it I drained,water out of the ,Engine,Transmission, Hydraulics. They all had some from setting. Check the power steering hoses If they bust you will have no control. I found that out the hard way. Good luck.
It's called an instant reverse transmission, allows you to go forward to reverse without stopping completely. Transmission is separate from hydraulics. Check transmission under seat with dip stick. I have a 30B backhoe that's similar. Keep the bucket ready to drop when roading.
HA!!!! How great it is to see your uncle with a cig hangin' out of is mouth while trying to start it!!! That is what the engineers at Massey Ferguson pictured when they designed it back in the day.....
From what I understand it had a pretty easy life in a gravel pit loading trucks before my uncle got it. But, on the other hand, he scrapped the backhoe because it was beat to death. Ill admit its in pretty good shape.
I have A massy Ferguson 50D INDUSTRIAL backhoe loader also. It set along time . It started up and ran well. BUT EVERY CYLINDER LEAKIS. IM IN THE CYLINDER OVERALL PROCESS NOW .
On fuel filter there a bleed screw on top open up , then pump prime till fuel come out perfectly then screw in top filter screw and prime pump 4 full times again if not do injectors too bleed them and tight up in fireing order too when motor fully running perfectly! Also smoke problem get a Automatic transmission Dexron 2 or 3 add 500 ml worth of Full Fuel tank full and a bottle of STP Total Treatment fuel injection cleaner and do every 3 months!
I think the smokw issue may just be a bad valve. I had to have a valve job done on a tractor i was working on in the summer that acted exactly the same. You can hear the weak cylinder while cranking.
Thank God for uncles. If you are in High range, it shouldn't free-wheel but make sure it is parked in Lo range so you can get it out of gear later. Change all your filters immediately or suffer if they fall apart when running. If maintained, these old girls will run forever. And replace parts when it needs it, don't try to repair.
I will go with coolant in the oil as that was close to road tar. Wouldn't be much of a stretch to just add gravel and lay it down on driveway/LOL... keep em coming.
This is a MF40. It replaced the 2200 in 1970. I have a 1967 MF 2200. It uses the same perkins ad3.152 3 cylinder diesel. Mine shares a lot of parts with the MF 135 ag tractor. Im sure that there is an ag tractor that yours is based off of. BTW if you have to let it sit outside, do it with the bucket lift cylinders retracted you don’t want the chrome to rust. I know they probably did it so it wouldn’t fill ip with rain water. Mine has a couple of holes in the bucket so water doesn’t accumulate. .
Hi,if the level of oil still over full its mabye be the primer pump ,the primer pump can broke and the diesel goes in the oil I had a tractor that smoked and the primer pump was high ,exuse me if made some mistake Usually a speak french
sleeves wear over long periods of time. Not having flakes in the oil has absolutely nothing to do with bore taper, trashed rings, broken ring lands, etc....
will the cylinders above piston tops get a layer of rust from standing so long? I always wonder if the attempts to start mean the piston rings have to scrape off a layer of rust.
@@ranwhenpark3d Same with vertical or broken exhausts and manifolds directing rain down into cylinder? With petrol engines its easy to take plugs out but not with big old diesel engines so I suppose it's just start up and hope their rings and pistons can survive. We just don't see old vehicles sat around in UK these days as all have been bought or scrapped. Most vehicles are sold on lease and just disappear after a few years - even Mercs and Jaguars - as just too expensive to fix. Maybe they all get shipped to Africa.
That property is solid ledge, not gonna sink. Also you can see at one point in the video that a tree was actually grown around the right rear stabilizer.
A Ford broke down - (sarcasm alert) how unusual! Did you expect anything else? The smoke is injectors, put a fuel / injector cleaner through it and see if it improves, but an injector service is on the cards - not unusual for a Perkins. Making oil is also a classic symptom of a squirting not spraying injector.
I have the exact machine up here in northern maine. Mine has the instant reverse transmission, I use the machine daily. I am looking for a parts machine and if you were ever interested in selling this, comment here and we can exchange contact info. Thank you. By the way, my massey came from vermont as well, I'm sure they came from sumner farr deership
Is this a question or a statement? I would say a little diesel in the oil isn't a big deal on a mechanically injected engine (due to seal leaks into the timing case). But this thing was overfilled by about a gallon.
That was a lot of slop in the engine oil . Hydraulic oil in these tractors are bottom less pits .I wanted to see ya get it off of the hills . Forgetting to Throttle down while going downhill big mistake . You can fly and not know why .
It was scrapped 20 years ago, apparently the pins were trashed and someone welded them in so it was essentially un-fixable...wish it was still on the machine, im sure i could salvage it.
Lol, you can see in the video that a tree is literally grown around the right rear stabilizer. It has been sitting in that exact spot for close to 15 years. Ill admit though, its in good shape.
We have a MF 50 Industrial with loader,, Great machine.. It used to have a huge compressor on the back you could run air tools off it,, They are great engines in these,, go all day on 1 gallon.. Great video.
Just to let you know, those engines run a CAV injection pump and they are notorious for the main pump shaft seals leaking diesel into the crankcase of the engine where it bolts on.
So you can buy a pump rebuild kit cheap and either overhaul it or just replace the main seal.
Otherwise your engine oil will continually be diluted with diesel. 👍🤙😁🇦🇺
I picked up a Case CK 580 last year...haven't done much with it as yet - thanks for the heads up!
Awesome, love thy Massey Ferguson!!!!!!! On a different note anybody ever tell You ,you look like number 48 old crew chief. I have a 1959 M-F 50 gas & not a industrial but it does everything I need her to do, also I bought a 2018 M-F 1526 diesel with a front end loader & 4 WD. & it does all the other chores.Thanks for the video.
We purchased one of these in 1979. It had 4900 hours on it. We proceeded to use it much like a forklift at a sawmill for many years as well as on our land as we turned a full section of timbered land into productive fields. By the time the hour meter quit it had over 11000 hours on it. That was in 1992. It still runs to this day for snow plowing in the winter and packing firewood and general acreage work during the summer. It has never had anything done to the engine other than have the starter replaced. I have to believe it is pushing close to 15 or 16 thousand hours on it. We replaced a broken gear on the left side. I think it was like a planetary ring gear but I can't be sure as I was 14 years old at the time and I am now 52. Other than a certain person running it for several years without greasing a thing causing one of the front wheels to fall off, it's never broken down. The sound of the tractor starting in this video is so evocative and reminds me so clearly of running that tractor though my childhood and teen years. Amazing machine. Thanks for posting such a nostalgia-inducing video for me!!!
Cool story!, glad I could provide a trip down memory lane!
Older Masseys with Perkins are my favorite tractors. Easy to work on and use very little fuel.
They broke my heart with breakdowns and unreliability! Prefer my old Zetor’s
@@Redgolf2 what u do to break them?
Used it for farming! It’d pull a plough or trailer, blow its electrics, blew its head, brakes, hydraulics etc, I hated it with a vengeance. Couldn’t pull start it because it had multi power, and the local farmers got used to pulling me out of fields. I have a looong list of hates about them 😏
The Zetor was excellent, had it over 30 years ands it’s still going! Reliable, efficient, cheap to run and easy to work on, apart from the brakes, miss that tractor
Got one just like that running 2 years ago, it sat for over a dozen years, just needed a battery. Oil was good and just put some fresh red die, tapped the starter and it came to life. They are great tractors, the one I got is destroyed, the backhoe got ripped of the rear rails to slide the hoe side to side.
The sound of this tractor is permanently engraved in my brain My grandfather had one it now belongs to my dad never seen it break. Paps not happy it sits outside now I plan on repainting it and getting the backhoe for it one day
Yours is missing the backhoe too? that's interesting. I'd like to find one to put back on mine as well.
I have a newer MF30E with a power shuttle and I can verify they are incredibly difficult to operate without brakes. The best thing I did was rebuild the brakes to make it more user friendly. She's a tank! Thanks for sharing 👍😁
Yeah, its something to get used to. Fortunately the brakes are good.
@@ranwhenpark3d good deal! Mine came pre-wired with a toggle switch for forward. Flip the switch up to engage the clutches for forward motion. This allows the tractor to travel forward without having to constantly hold the pedal; adjust the throttle and off you go.
The paint looks in good condition for that sitting period. Good work!
I have a MF30, with the the same Perkins. I rebuilt mine. Parts are cheap. I used RF Engines for my parts. Cylinder liners are "dry", they are a challenge to remove and replace, but definitely doable. I have the puller made, if you need anything fell free to reach out.
man that engine oil was turnning back into a dinosaur thats some thick oil .
Great work great vid
Rob
NSW
Australia
Right? I've never seen anything quite like that
Hi. I bought a MF 50A looks just like yours. Before I started it I drained,water out of the ,Engine,Transmission, Hydraulics. They all had some from setting. Check the power steering hoses If they bust you will have no control. I found that out the hard way. Good luck.
Drained the trans today, had a gallon of water in it.
@@ranwhenpark3d I am happy to hear that you drained the water. I am looking forward to more on this Massey.
@@ranwhenpark3d water getting in via the perished gearstick boots is common.
Well, first time viewer, and I think I will follow you for a while, good luck, great video and stay safe!👍👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Nice job man!!!
It's called an instant reverse transmission, allows you to go forward to reverse without stopping completely. Transmission is separate from hydraulics. Check transmission under seat with dip stick. I have a 30B backhoe that's similar. Keep the bucket ready to drop when roading.
HA!!!! How great it is to see your uncle with a cig hangin' out of is mouth while trying to start it!!! That is what the engineers at Massey Ferguson pictured when they designed it back in the day.....
He's one helluva character!
the paint is so good for left sitting 15 years!. over here left 3 years it will rot to the block
From what I understand it had a pretty easy life in a gravel pit loading trucks before my uncle got it. But, on the other hand, he scrapped the backhoe because it was beat to death. Ill admit its in pretty good shape.
Looks like a nice unit.
Mov’in body’s - yeah that will work!!!
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I have A massy Ferguson 50D INDUSTRIAL backhoe loader also. It set along time . It started up and ran well. BUT EVERY CYLINDER LEAKIS. IM IN THE CYLINDER OVERALL PROCESS NOW .
On fuel filter there a bleed screw on top open up , then pump prime till fuel come out perfectly then screw in top filter screw and prime pump 4 full times again if not do injectors too bleed them and tight up in fireing order too when motor fully running perfectly! Also smoke problem get a Automatic transmission Dexron 2 or 3 add 500 ml worth of Full Fuel tank full and a bottle of STP Total Treatment fuel injection cleaner and do every 3 months!
I think the smokw issue may just be a bad valve. I had to have a valve job done on a tractor i was working on in the summer that acted exactly the same. You can hear the weak cylinder while cranking.
Overhaul is in order. You already invested in a sitting machine. Hope your toolbox is extensive and you're not afraid to use tools.
My isuzu was smoking white though engine was gone my brother adjusted pump timing. Smoking clean up and started lot easier.
Cracked block very common on those. I bought one too.
Thank God for uncles. If you are in High range, it shouldn't free-wheel but make sure it is parked in Lo range so you can get it out of gear later. Change all your filters immediately or suffer if they fall apart when running. If maintained, these old girls will run forever. And replace parts when it needs it, don't try to repair.
think my favorite is the old timer smokin cigs sprayin the ether
Fill a container with gas then drop a smoke in it, what will happen?
@@kenthompson4967 the cig will die out
I will go with coolant in the oil as that was close to road tar. Wouldn't be much of a stretch to just add gravel and lay it down on driveway/LOL... keep em coming.
Yeah I've seen thick oil, but that stuff was way over the top. It wouldn't even go into the drain pan!
This is a MF40. It replaced the 2200 in 1970. I have a 1967 MF 2200. It uses the same perkins ad3.152 3 cylinder diesel. Mine shares a lot of parts with the MF 135 ag tractor. Im sure that there is an ag tractor that yours is based off of. BTW if you have to let it sit outside, do it with the bucket lift cylinders retracted you don’t want the chrome to rust. I know they probably did it so it wouldn’t fill ip with rain water. Mine has a couple of holes in the bucket so water doesn’t accumulate. .
The mf50 industrial is based on the MF 165/175/178/185/188 ag tractor.
He is correct that the tractor free wheels if you let off the drive pedal. Mine does the same.
Hi,if the level of oil still over full its mabye be the primer pump ,the primer pump can broke and the diesel goes in the oil I had a tractor that smoked and the primer pump was high ,exuse me if made some mistake Usually a speak french
I can smell the wires burning from here
if there’s no metal in the oil then the sleeves are fine pistons might be ok as well. I’d say it’s just the head gasket.
sleeves wear over long periods of time. Not having flakes in the oil has absolutely nothing to do with bore taper, trashed rings, broken ring lands, etc....
Thats called an overhaul dude
Just got a 60s mf 2135 you said you had a line on another backhoe attachment. Do you mind telling me where you were able to find it?
Apply a little throttle keeps it engaged
will the cylinders above piston tops get a layer of rust from standing so long?
I always wonder if the attempts to start mean the piston rings have to scrape off a layer of rust.
I've seen that a variety of times before. Usually the rings will be pretty smoked in a situation like that.
@@ranwhenpark3d Same with vertical or broken exhausts and manifolds directing rain down into cylinder?
With petrol engines its easy to take plugs out but not with big old diesel engines so I suppose it's just start up and hope their rings and pistons can survive.
We just don't see old vehicles sat around in UK these days as all have been bought or scrapped. Most vehicles are sold on lease and just disappear after a few years - even Mercs and Jaguars - as just too expensive to fix. Maybe they all get shipped to Africa.
Perkins exhaust manifolds have a rainwater bypass to stop rain getting into the engine.
Hard to believe that was sitting for ten years. Not sunk into the soil at all. It would have sunk a little further each spring as the frost broke
That property is solid ledge, not gonna sink. Also you can see at one point in the video that a tree was actually grown around the right rear stabilizer.
Not a hydro uses clutch packs when you let up it’s like nuetral
Grease up !!!!
With on how much it smokes to me it sounds like injectors may be bad. Could use some power service hp to try and clean them
Fair point, I hadn't even thought about the injectors.
Awesome where in CT I'm by Norwich
A Ford broke down - (sarcasm alert) how unusual! Did you expect anything else? The smoke is injectors, put a fuel / injector cleaner through it and see if it improves, but an injector service is on the cards - not unusual for a Perkins. Making oil is also a classic symptom of a squirting not spraying injector.
@11.00 min, Be warned, the sump is a stressed member and HEAVY mind your toes, and use a jack.
where do u think the back attachment is
I have the exact machine up here in northern maine. Mine has the instant reverse transmission, I use the machine daily. I am looking for a parts machine and if you were ever interested in selling this, comment here and we can exchange contact info. Thank you. By the way, my massey came from vermont as well, I'm sure they came from sumner farr deership
7:54 SHE'S ALIVEEEEEEE!!!!! 💪
I would have thought after 15 years the belt would have been dry rotted.
It blew off about 20 seconds after I stopped filming hahaha.
A paer of new front and back taiers and back peas then you have a masheen for life if you look at it every time
No need to send the oil off. That is just from neglect. Oil with Coolant in it will look lime a milkshake.
Smoking could be leaky injectors. Try replacement before overhaul!
Watch the second video....its blowby...
15yrs looks a little too perfect...
Lol not sure what you're looking at but this thing is beat to death
diesel in oil is normal?
Is this a question or a statement? I would say a little diesel in the oil isn't a big deal on a mechanically injected engine (due to seal leaks into the timing case). But this thing was overfilled by about a gallon.
@@ranwhenpark3d that was not made clear in the video diesel being present in the oil is not a disqualification.
@@ranwhenpark3d It's "Perkins" - if it is diesel in the oil sump, membrane on your fuel pump is torn.
Could be your lift pump is dirty
That was a lot of slop in the engine oil . Hydraulic oil in these tractors are bottom less pits .I wanted to see ya get it off of the hills . Forgetting to Throttle down while going downhill big mistake . You can fly and not know why .
Where’s the backhoe for it?
It was scrapped 20 years ago, apparently the pins were trashed and someone welded them in so it was essentially un-fixable...wish it was still on the machine, im sure i could salvage it.
U do know them old engines for the age of them they will all was pot out plenty of smoke
A Bad injector will makes a diesel smoke like that
Why did it sit for ten years?
Used to clear property and then parked when the job was done. Also the owner bought a much newer excavator right around the time it was parked.
Pressure test the injectors its white smoke.
No way that been setting outside for 10 to 15 years. Not a spec of rust .Maybe in a building somewhere
Lol, you can see in the video that a tree is literally grown around the right rear stabilizer. It has been sitting in that exact spot for close to 15 years. Ill admit though, its in good shape.
I thought same thing. Cylinders look brand new
Engine oil Flush and new injectors?
Jesus, put the camera on a tripod. It's like watching Blair Witch Project.
1:39 I thought he was talking about actually moving real bodies no the fake oens
I'd enjoy farting around with old equipment if it was laying around.
not fond of fast forward
pump the gas pedal one thousand then send it to the ketchup
that is 20 year old oil
stuck injector.
Stop talking and get to it, you are saying the same thing over and over, quite annoying. Take this as help not hate! I will subscribe.
That's not a backhoe. That's a front end loader, some call it a bucket loader.
Its a backhoe, the backhoe itself is just missing...as I stated in the video.
@@ranwhenpark3d Sorry for my mistake.
No worries man, enjoy the videos!
Too painful to watch.
Wow, thanks for the constructive criticism!