Just want to correct the dual native ISO statement. The R5 does have a dual native ISO, but was just never advertised. The R5C has the exact same sensor so both share that same dual native ISO. You can also leave the lens cap on, turn peaking on, and see the R5 clean up when you go up to 3,200 ISO.
I know that with many Canon cameras the full ISOs are cleaner than the 1/3 stops. On the R6 II for example, ISO 3200 is cleaner than ISO 2500. ISO 6400 is cleaner than ISO 5000, etc. I know a few RUclipsrs have pointed this out (applies to photos and video) so I always shoot at 100,200,400,800,1600,3200, 6400, 12800 and rarely in between.
@@airbazoo 🤣 Solid content my guy. I love what you're doing here and on insta. Also this really helped me with info about the R5C cause I'm really considering upgrading to it so thanks! 🙏 💪
Excellent comparison! I’ll give my two cents, I shoot weddings and find the R5C to be awesome for events. The battery life isn’t an issue because of the USB C power delivery- best camera I’ve ever had for sure!
"Netflix Approved" means nothing. It's only a factor in ORIGINAL SCRIPTED shows, whereas docuseries work you can use any source and any kind of media to put it together as long as you output to specific specs for the conform / online. I've done a ton of Netflix series now using media from some janky ass sources. If you're working on a SCRIPTED show, you won't be shooting on anything other than RED or ALEXA anyway.
Almost the perfect camera. The only thing makes me worried about getting the r5c is the horrible video autofocus, as a traveller sometimes I need a run and gun style af system. What do you think, would you use the r5c for example in a safari trip w rf100-500?
The video autofocus is fine for video, so long as you can maintain +1.5 stops above 0EV (i always shoot RAW or Log. Give it plenty of light and you won't have an issue. No issues whatsoever in photo mode
Canon was so close to making a perfect camera with the R5C, except for a few dumb mistakes: micro HDMI, no wireless function in video and the back wheel doing nothing in video mode. But the image is so good. Check out Josh Satin's videos, he makes a very in depth comparison with the FX3. Basically the the highlights are much nicer on the R5C, that's what makes it look more "filmic"
The micro HDMI (and I'll add, the battery life) are pretty annoying, but I'm hopeful the absence of wireless control in video mode is fixed with a future firmware update much like they're addressing the issue of not being able to customize the wheel on the back in a firmware update in the coming months.
I got the R6 II because it fixes a lot of the R5 issues and it's way cheaper. Better in low light, much better AF (especially in low light), focus peaking, false colour, better battery life, full frame oversampled 4k60, and no record limit. The only minus is that there is no 4k120... and dynamic range is a bit worse I'd say, though in real life it probably won't make a difference. It's no R5c but for the price it is fantastic as a hybrid.
I sold my R5c for the r6 mark ii. Loved the R5c, but I couldn’t justify the extra $1000 body price, when the results are so similar. AND the r6 mark ii’s battery life is killer awesome.
Question: I work in motorsport and considering to buy either the r5c or de r6 mark II. I just tested the r5c and one thing that i don‘t like is the video to photo switch. It takes just to long as in motorsport everything happens so quickly. do you recommend the r6 II ? (cause the video footage of the r5c looked incredible)
R6 MII is an amazing camera! If you have the budget for I would look at the R3 for Motocross because the Autofocus on the R5C is similar to the C70 a bit slower to lock on, but once locked in it never lets go!
I came from the 5DIV and I switched to the R5 and I also had problems with the IBIS, accustomed to only using the IS of the lens, always working with monopods, the IBIS that does not respond very well when using the camera leaning on something. But, when used with RF IS lenses it is a pleasure to use handheld, you don't need a gimbal. And to use only for photos on walks or to go more unnoticed, accompanied by a small lens it is really a pleasure to use. And in video, it's true, there isn't that much information on skin tones, I use an old C100II as a second camera and I feel like the skins always look better. How are the batteries? Something that has been criticized a lot for the R5C, but many times the criticism is half exaggerated, now in the R5 they perform extremely well.
Absolutely agree with this comment. The battery life is lower than the R5 for sure but totally depends on what you shoot and your style. Most of my shooting is run and gun so for me no issues at all as I’m recording in bursts for short periods of time.
I didn't even realize focusing was an issue at higher ISO's on the R5. I gotta keep an eye out for that in the future but an excellent comparison video. The R5C image is so good😩
I feel like just slap on the ninja v and all that comes 100 💯 full circle apart from that Netflix codec but it’s so great to see the differences! Being video first focused 🎉
@airbazoo Update: I pulled the trigger! You made one of the best reviews out there, honestly. Straight to the point. Its arriving on Friday. I've been using a Canon 90D for my car edits. I'm mainly on tik and insta. But, with the R5C, I'll show some love to youtube. Lol.
Perfect timing for this comparison! Currently rocking the R5, but really thinking about making the switch. Are the video files on the R5C larger than R5?
Bro trust, I sat on the decision for weeks! And I’m super happy with my decision. They’re pretty much the same if not slightly smaller, the XFAVC codec compresses much better. I film everything to the CF B slot!
Tested and saw videos of the newest firmware shifting the image a lot more magenta. Compared to my C70, I have a hard time with its image. The C70 image looks really natural & filmic, the R5C has some really strong odd saturations in red/blue/green. Skin tones aren’t as good. I shoot both in RAW usually. I really wish they were closer.
No proxies, I have a 3090, put timeline in 2k or 4k DCI for editing. I just tested the C70 RAW LT vs R5C RAW LT side by side with a model and the C70 was quite a bit nicer. If I pushed the R5C footage at all, it started falling apart in the shadows with color banding (red & green vertical). I reduced the tint (more green) on the R5C footage and did a color boost of +10 and the R5C footage looked closer to the C70, but skin tones weren't as advanced as the C70 (simpler colors in skin tones, looked flatter). @@vincentn6347
The c stands for cripple. The cripple is the micro hdmi. If they gave it a full hdmi firmware update it would be then called the r5k . The k would mean it kills the competition
R5C and R5 do have the same dynamix range. The difference is the noise reduction that comes with each codec. XF-AVC has the advantage. With RAW both are equal
Nope I have both cameras. R5c raw video image is much better than R5. There is auto black balance function R5c sensor (ABB) which results in far less chroma noise.
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Just want to correct the dual native ISO statement. The R5 does have a dual native ISO, but was just never advertised. The R5C has the exact same sensor so both share that same dual native ISO. You can also leave the lens cap on, turn peaking on, and see the R5 clean up when you go up to 3,200 ISO.
I know that with many Canon cameras the full ISOs are cleaner than the 1/3 stops. On the R6 II for example, ISO 3200 is cleaner than ISO 2500. ISO 6400 is cleaner than ISO 5000, etc. I know a few RUclipsrs have pointed this out (applies to photos and video) so I always shoot at 100,200,400,800,1600,3200, 6400, 12800 and rarely in between.
@@77dristhat’s just with every camera.
Where the feet at? Bro went from blurring to hiding them...
Lmaoooo I’m dead. Dw the blur is strong 😂😂
@@airbazoo 🤣 Solid content my guy. I love what you're doing here and on insta. Also this really helped me with info about the R5C cause I'm really considering upgrading to it so thanks! 🙏 💪
Not sure if anyone already mentioned this, but it's important to note that the dual base ISO of the R5C is 800/3200 in LOG. Otherwise it's 400/1600
"You would never film like this..." brave of you to assume I know how to light a set correctly.
L O L this comment made me spill my coffee
Excellent comparison! I’ll give my two cents, I shoot weddings and find the R5C to be awesome for events. The battery life isn’t an issue because of the USB C power delivery- best camera I’ve ever had for sure!
Great comparison!
Thanks a lot sir 🫡 waiting for the R1 next 🤣
"Netflix Approved" means nothing. It's only a factor in ORIGINAL SCRIPTED shows, whereas docuseries work you can use any source and any kind of media to put it together as long as you output to specific specs for the conform / online. I've done a ton of Netflix series now using media from some janky ass sources. If you're working on a SCRIPTED show, you won't be shooting on anything other than RED or ALEXA anyway.
The R5 also has two base isos, 800 and 3200. You can see the noise lowering once you hit 3200 from 2500.
Almost the perfect camera. The only thing makes me worried about getting the r5c is the horrible video autofocus, as a traveller sometimes I need a run and gun style af system. What do you think, would you use the r5c for example in a safari trip w rf100-500?
The video autofocus is fine for video, so long as you can maintain +1.5 stops above 0EV (i always shoot RAW or Log. Give it plenty of light and you won't have an issue. No issues whatsoever in photo mode
Canon was so close to making a perfect camera with the R5C, except for a few dumb mistakes: micro HDMI, no wireless function in video and the back wheel doing nothing in video mode. But the image is so good. Check out Josh Satin's videos, he makes a very in depth comparison with the FX3. Basically the the highlights are much nicer on the R5C, that's what makes it look more "filmic"
Absolutely agree with this comment. Soooo close, but in my opinion this is as perfect of a camera you can get rn.
The micro HDMI (and I'll add, the battery life) are pretty annoying, but I'm hopeful the absence of wireless control in video mode is fixed with a future firmware update much like they're addressing the issue of not being able to customize the wheel on the back in a firmware update in the coming months.
Thanks, the best comparison i Have ever watched.
The R5C should have Clog2😢
Not knowing your R5 has dual native ISO has prevented me from continuing this video…
The fact that you didn’t know that, is really, really bad.
I got the R6 II because it fixes a lot of the R5 issues and it's way cheaper. Better in low light, much better AF (especially in low light), focus peaking, false colour, better battery life, full frame oversampled 4k60, and no record limit.
The only minus is that there is no 4k120... and dynamic range is a bit worse I'd say, though in real life it probably won't make a difference. It's no R5c but for the price it is fantastic as a hybrid.
I sold my R5c for the r6 mark ii. Loved the R5c, but I couldn’t justify the extra $1000 body price, when the results are so similar. AND the r6 mark ii’s battery life is killer awesome.
But r6 looks plastic and cheap
Thank you for this review.
R5Cii for me! thanks for pointing out the differences. Good video. (R5 owner)
R5c is greener, which i hate
Question: I work in motorsport and considering to buy either the r5c or de r6 mark II. I just tested the r5c and one thing that i don‘t like is the video to photo switch. It takes just to long as in motorsport everything happens so quickly.
do you recommend the r6 II ?
(cause the video footage of the r5c looked incredible)
R6 MII is an amazing camera! If you have the budget for I would look at the R3 for Motocross because the Autofocus on the R5C is similar to the C70 a bit slower to lock on, but once locked in it never lets go!
I came from the 5DIV and I switched to the R5 and I also had problems with the IBIS, accustomed to only using the IS of the lens, always working with monopods, the IBIS that does not respond very well when using the camera leaning on something. But, when used with RF IS lenses it is a pleasure to use handheld, you don't need a gimbal. And to use only for photos on walks or to go more unnoticed, accompanied by a small lens it is really a pleasure to use. And in video, it's true, there isn't that much information on skin tones, I use an old C100II as a second camera and I feel like the skins always look better. How are the batteries? Something that has been criticized a lot for the R5C, but many times the criticism is half exaggerated, now in the R5 they perform extremely well.
Absolutely agree with this comment. The battery life is lower than the R5 for sure but totally depends on what you shoot and your style. Most of my shooting is run and gun so for me no issues at all as I’m recording in bursts for short periods of time.
at the dynamic range part 5:26 you give one stop more light to the r5c, they should be both with the same settings
I didn't even realize focusing was an issue at higher ISO's on the R5. I gotta keep an eye out for that in the future but an excellent comparison video. The R5C image is so good😩
Yeah dude it's an issue I've had since day 1! Luckily I rarely shoot at over 800, lets grab the R1 next year LOL
Great explanation. This video confirmed that I picked the right camera. Thanks.
AF methods of tow bodies are completely different in video mode.
R5C may be one step perfect camera only if improove AF function
I am stills shooter looking to get into video. Are there any downsides to getting the R5c vs the R5 on the stills side? (Besides lack of IBIS)
I feel like just slap on the ninja v and all that comes 100 💯 full circle apart from that Netflix codec but it’s so great to see the differences! Being video first focused 🎉
I subscribed
Absolute legend
I'm about to hit the trigger
Trust bro best decision I ever made
@airbazoo Update: I pulled the trigger! You made one of the best reviews out there, honestly. Straight to the point. Its arriving on Friday. I've been using a Canon 90D for my car edits. I'm mainly on tik and insta. But, with the R5C, I'll show some love to youtube. Lol.
@@Erickguitar16How’s the R5C treatin ya? thinking of upgrading from the R7 because damn there are some crazy limitations on video
Thanks for this review
Perfect timing for this comparison! Currently rocking the R5, but really thinking about making the switch. Are the video files on the R5C larger than R5?
Bro trust, I sat on the decision for weeks! And I’m super happy with my decision. They’re pretty much the same if not slightly smaller, the XFAVC codec compresses much better. I film everything to the CF B slot!
@@airbazoo appreciate it bro! definitely giving me something to think about
I love my R5C 8K is beautiful!!! Raw 12 bit is amazing in video!!!
When shooting in super 35 the HQ option is available, this camera also looks great with the Suiri anamorphic!
update: purchased the R5C, best camera switch I've ever made. The "real world" examples you showed made the decision a no brainer @@airbazoo
Tested and saw videos of the newest firmware shifting the image a lot more magenta. Compared to my C70, I have a hard time with its image. The C70 image looks really natural & filmic, the R5C has some really strong odd saturations in red/blue/green. Skin tones aren’t as good. I shoot both in RAW usually. I really wish they were closer.
Haven't noticed the magenta, will have to check. How's editing in RAW? Do you have to use proxies?
No proxies, I have a 3090, put timeline in 2k or 4k DCI for editing. I just tested the C70 RAW LT vs R5C RAW LT side by side with a model and the C70 was quite a bit nicer. If I pushed the R5C footage at all, it started falling apart in the shadows with color banding (red & green vertical). I reduced the tint (more green) on the R5C footage and did a color boost of +10 and the R5C footage looked closer to the C70, but skin tones weren't as advanced as the C70 (simpler colors in skin tones, looked flatter). @@vincentn6347
The c stands for cripple. The cripple is the micro hdmi. If they gave it a full hdmi firmware update it would be then called the r5k . The k would mean it kills the competition
R5C and R5 do have the same dynamix range. The difference is the noise reduction that comes with each codec. XF-AVC has the advantage. With RAW both are equal
you have a video to see this?
Nope I have both cameras. R5c raw video image is much better than R5. There is auto black balance function R5c sensor (ABB) which results in far less chroma noise.
@@csound55 That makes a huge difference then.
@@csound55that would also help with shadows being way cleaner right?
@@Francisfphoto_ In my experience yes