He Studies Computer Science But is Bad at Math
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- In this video I respond to an email I received from a viewer. He is a computer science student who is not good at math and wants to get better. Do you have any advice? If so, please leave a comment.
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I don't know what it is like in your school, but if you walked into the math department at mine and yelled for help, literally everyone in the building would love you.
Math is hard no matter who you are that’s why
Please, I'm a student of Mathematics department but I need help. I need a community
Even if you don't go to the school?
@@brendanbell5326 : Alle språk er vanskelige før du lærer dem.
at my uni and theres always ppl in maths who will help while ppl in cs just use the plagiarism excuse to ignore anyone who asks for help with even the simplest of questions
I was bad at math, I mean REALLY bad at math. Flunked high school algebra, and barely passed the retake in summer school. From first grade on, I just never got it. It really held me back in life and narrowed my career choices. Plus, because I couldn’t ever figure it out, I felt stupid. Weird thing was, if it was applied, say, figuring out an aeronautical vector in a science class, I could do it. But pure math? I had a mental block. As a little kid, I would always ask, “why?” about this or the other math rule, and the teacher would say, “just because that’s the rule.” and I would just shrug and think, “then what’s the point?” Back then, they were teaching seven-year-olds something called New Math, which involved bases other than ten, and it was completely cryptic to me. Frankly, I don’t think my teacher even understood it.
Anyway, fast forward through a lot of painful mathematical failure to when I was in my fifties. I decided I could would tackle my math phobia. At first, I thought I’d start with high school algebra. But math instruction had changed so much since I was a kid that I had no idea what the textbooks were talking about. So, I went all the way back to the beginning. I emailed Professor Jo Boaler at Stanford, and she suggested learning with the Singapore Math curriculum. I supplement with Khan Academy. At 62, I am currently sailing through 5th grade, and I can now “do math!” Fractions used to completely flummox me, and now they are so easy! I can even see the foreshadowing of algebraic principles in the lessons, and now they make sense. I can do math. I do it for fun! My goal is to master calculus.
This is the moral of the story: If you think you’re bad at math, you don’t have to be. It’s just that nobody in your life understood or cared about how YOU learn. Nobody knew how to teach it to you. It’s not you. You’re not dumb. If I can do it, you can do it.
You've made an excellent point - it's mostly the way one's being exposed to mathematics that influences their ability to grasp it.
Last year I've enrolled for a math major at a university - dropped out after one term because I saw no use in this concrete degree, but for the first time in my life I both felt and could prove that I do understand the maths I'm presented, only because it was shown me from the ground up. After this experience, I'm confident that I could learn all the maths I need - the only conditions are time and structuring the material.
i really needed to see this as sophomore having retake algebra 1 😭😭
Is there a preferred website for learning Singapore Math curriculum?
beautifull story , inspiring
So did you start with 5th grade on khan academy or are you saying that’s where you’ve worked your way up to so far? Just wondering because id like to do the same
Holy cow, I'm honored that you took the time to answer my question with an entire video!!
To give an update -- I sent that question in two semesters ago I believe. Since then, I have already taken college algebra. I was able to pass the course with a great grade, and the book by Blitzer that you recommend was actually a huge help for me. The trick to helping me learn the math was to do all of the practice problems in the Blitzer book; each chapter, there'd be a few pages of practice problems, and I would do them all in addition to my assigned schoolwork. If I didn't have the practice problems I probably would have failed the course.
Another roadblock I stumbled across is trigonometry. It is a new type of math, and it just didn't click for me. I wasn't able to pass trig last semester, unfortunately -- with all my commitments to other classes, I just didn't understand it and I didn't have the time to grind away at it.
I am taking trig again next semester, and I am going to buy your course on trigonometry 1 on udemy. I hope that it will be a good resource for me, and I am committed to passing it this time!!
Thank you so so much for answering my question, and for everyone that is commenting on the video with their advice. I really appreciate it.
Awesome! Hey for trig this should help a lot too: ruclips.net/video/hRc8gihDeCg/видео.html
Well done Nicolas. Good luck to you pal.
hey nicolas, just wanted to say i am also on the same path as you lol I just took Trigonometry for the second time this semester but i didnt pass it so im trying again in the summer.. Im also a computer science major, already passed java1 and now waiting to take c++ in the summer :D
How are your classes in math and computer science doing now?
@@nguyenngo5929 I took trig again but I had to drop it because I accidentally signed up for a 5 week course when I meant to sign up for a 15 week course. Thankfully it doesn't go to my transcript, I just need to make sure I sign up for the right one this time. lol. My programming classes are the easiest ones, I just kind of wish I didn't have to take all the extra stuff they make me take and that I could only take programming classes. Would be nice.
30 years ago before going into physics my math performance was very poor. Then someone pointed me to a newly appointed math professor as a tutor. This guy was phenomenal. In 60 hours of home schooling i had everything sorted. Never struggled since.
I didn't become good at math until college. I grew up in the public school system in the 80s (graduated high school in '93), and always just slid by. I turned on in my college algebra and college trig classes, where my trig instructor asked me to tutor math over the summer and sign up for Calc I in the fall. I'll be the first to tell you that I'm not much for teaching, so tutoring didn't turn me on much, but I enjoyed Calc I and II so much that I decided to go down the rabbit hole and get a degree in math.
Now I've said that I didn't like tutoring, but I'm pretty good at reading situations, and I can tell you from experience in tutoring that most people who aren't good at math or are scared of math are like that because of their previous mathematical educational experiences. Maybe they didn't pay attention enough before college, maybe they had bad instructors in school, but they always needed to be "fixed" in some way. Maybe they didn't have a small piece of information right, maybe nobody took the time to sit down and explain to them the way things have to be for everything to work. It was a very rare occasion that someone with a legitimate bona fide learning disability would cross my path. What I will say is that if someone has a problem with math, it's usually something that can be diagnosed... by doing math. Backing up and going over the basics: basic arithmetic, the order of operations, fractions and their rules, explaining exactly what the hell 'x' is and how to find it starting from a simple linear expression and then moving up to more complicated expressions, and letting them know that "Yes, the book is important and you should be reading it. And no, it doesn't read like a riveting novel, but you don't want to read it like a riveting novel to begin with because you won't learn anything that way." Take away the calculator and make them do basic arithmetic in their head. "Hey, you might be bad at it at first, but you'll improve the more you do it, and you'll be impressed with that ability when you're in the checkout lane at the store and you can come up with the total you need to pay and the change you're owed faster in your head than the cashier can with their register. Little victories, man." Subsequently, I never use self check-out lanes. But I digress.
Practice the small stuff first. Make sure you have a good foundation to build upon. That way, when you get to the stuff that at first looks like Greek to you (and FYI, it looks like Greek because we are indeed using the Greek alphabet, homie. You might want to get to know it while you're at it. Alpha, beta, and gamma are great placeholders for constants), you'll know something that you'll more than likely have to use to solve it. Math builds on everything that came before.
That's all I've got for now. Now go get after it.
woah, the person who sent that email is a lot like me, I love programming and I want to get into computer science next year when I go to college, but I’ve never payed attention to math, thanks for this video
Same here it’s the math for me I did pre calc but not sure about calc 1
Yeah me too. I’m currently a business major as a freshman, but I’m heavily considering to go into computer science. I’m bad at math, but I have a growing love for it ever since the new semester started. My tutor is also a reason why I like math haha
One common misconception about math is that some people are good at it and some people are bad at it. In reality, math is inherently hard to understand for everyone. It takes practice to get good and to be confident in the subject. But anyone can get good at math if they take the time to understand it. I started out being absolutely terrible at math. Was lower than average in middle and early high school. But I put effort in to learn the best I could, and took time to practice, and I got very good at math. Now I'm a senior in Computer Science, and I've passed math classes up to Calculus 2.
Get a good what? You can't "get good," but you can "improve" or "become proficient." Yes, it seems like nitpicking over the grammar and style, but math is a language. If you take the time to practice and improve, you will reap the benefits arising from the efforts you have sown. No different than a college application. Never stop! Calc 2? Way to go!!
If you want to get real philosophical about it, it's all just relativity and perception, and you could apply this to all the skills in the world. Someone can be better than you at something, but they can't be 'good' at it. A lot of books on wisdom/philosophy will always say something about there never being a skill ceiling, and only a process of constantly learning.
@@argonwheatbelly637 You are entirely correct. Yeah my wording was pretty bad (sorry about that). But that's the point I was trying to make. Everyone can become proficient in math. Even if someone lacks all math skills, if they put in the time and find a way to learn that works for them, they can improve.
This! Hard work (and nobody wants to hear that) is the key. Unlike other subjects where you try to pull an all-nighter by cramming facts into your brain and hope for a miracle, maths (including physics and STEM subjects) does not work that way. You don't do enough problems you will stumble under a time constrain. Most people are not poor in maths; they get a bad grade because they have not done enough problems. And then they think they are poor in maths because of a bad grade. Even LeBron James needs to practise shooting daily before a game; maths works the same way. All-nighters are futile. Consistent persistent hard work solving a variety of problems is the key.
@@-TheBugLord Define "EVERYONE"; Everyone in the middle of the bell curve? Everyone with a beating pulse and carrying a head over their shoulders?
Thanks for the video! I've recently been trying to read my copy of "The Art of Computer Programming" but I'm in a similar math situation: really glad you made this video as I've been wanting to increase my understanding and enjoyment of the series.
Yeah, me too.
The Art of Computer Programming uses some pretty advanced mathematics that most people will not be prepared for. Donald Knuth wrote the book Concrete Mathematics precisely for that reason: to prepare people to handle the mathematics that is used in The Art of Computer Programming.
ADVICE: Don't waste time on stuff you already know but focus on the stuff you don't understand and need to know for advance courses.
We appreciate the informative you've given us. May God bless you no matter what.
Near 100% in my all of my math courses, last class taken Calc 3. I'm not naturally anything special. I just worked my butt off. Here are my tips.
I used a lot of PatrickJMT videos on RUclips and followed a lot of practice midterm/final exams on youtube throughout the course, not just before texts. I like clean looking notes help, but focus as much as you can paying attention to what the professor is explaining. I littleraly had to take pictures of the board (ask your professor first) and leave in blank pages in my notebooks to write out later. I was the slowest note taker in my class. Conversely, when you know your completely lost and dont be afraid to let the professor know. They will be pretty helpful and honest when the actual best thing to do is to just copy notes and ask for help later. Those times can suck, but we all learn at our own pace. Also, you know your doing just fine if you can ask specific questions and are not just saying your lost or you dont understand. Don't be afraid to go over examples again with your professor at office hours. Learning to speak math takes time and if you can clearly communicate, you can get better and faster help. Highly recommend practicing the examples your professor does in class because they will basically be what you should expect on your tests. I also started a 3 people sized study group where we basically did our homework or practiced problems in the study center every day. The best way of learning is through teaching. If you study with others, you learn how to teach each other. The professor who ran the math tutor center also basically became our calculus mother. Also, before tests, I super recommend creating cheat sheets with really simplified and neat information your test will be covering and then practice questions until you can do practice problems comfortably without looking at it. Another thing that comes to mind if you want good math grades, and this will sound a little harsh, is to do as absolutely as best as you can from the beginning of the course. Math is cumulative, you can't just say you'll learn it later. Cuz if you do, what was the lesson before tends to become what is expected to become second nature later. It's OK to be stuck and have difficulty at times, but make sure you stay responsible for getting yourself out of that hole before you get buried and overwhelmed. Also, I took a programming course and if you really enjoy coding, you might find it fun to create programs to do specific types of math questions. That sounds intimidating, but once you get the hang of it, it's kind of fun. Plus it will get you used to typing our your solutions for math because you may have to do homework online and they normally give you limited number of attempts for each problems. It sucks to miss an attempt because you forgot to use a parenthesis. Typing out math problems can also be helpful in looking up problems online so you can follow along.
I would love to go back and start math all over again right where you are going to be starting. Math is so cool and fun and there is so much you're going to get to explore.
I get overwhelmed with the idea of having to earn high grades. Instead, I tell myself that I start class off with 100%. And then its up to be to try my best not to lose too many points.
Best of luck to you. Don't give up. Your going to be incredible. Hope you enjoy the math journey.
patrickjmt is the goat
Same! I'm a CS major and math is part of the requirements for earning a CS degree. I just had Precalculus and ended up failing it at the end. I have to redo the course 🤦🏾♂️
I would recommend spending time on problems you don’t understand , trying to connect where and how it’s bringing the solution & testing yourself with different problems.
I feel this guys, I graduated last year in cs and I always thought I was terrible at math, and I was. I got a D in almost every math(except Discrete math I got B-), and because of that my CGPA got to lower to 3.4.
the thing is I did greater in courses that involve math like advanced algorithms, stat & probability, etc because I wasn't afraid of them. I use to fail the test in kindergarten that was purely greater than and less than questions. and after that, I had a math phobia and gave little to no time to it. but when I got B- I was so happy I start going back to grade 11 math materials and start studying math. it turns out that if you hate math, math will hate you back.
cani ask where should I start after with your courses?
Similar experience except I got all B's in my math courses. It showed I wasn't quite as bad as I thought I was.
Algorithms and the other discrete/graph theory type CS math was something I was far more natural at than say Calculus.
I'm still a very poor mathematician - that's why I'm starting to study for the math GRE lol. No intention of grad school or even taking the test, but it does provide a good, comprehensive study plan.
hey, i know a little bit math abd i like it, but i don't understand programming. Math is no logical? why i don't understand programming??(
I am in the same situation, I am just getting started in CS and taking College Algebra this semester. My strategy is the in person course with attached Math lab, plus I use 'Calc Workshop' online course. For me personally I enjoy the 'in person classroom' feel that the course delivers. I apologize to Math Sorcerer for introducing an outside product, please don't take any offense.
I've worked in the IT field as an application programmer and business analyst. The highest math j studied was Calc 2 and barely passed with a C-. I've always been a logical thinker and I've struggled with teaching myself math. I've now hired a great professor on preply to help me through the concepts. I'm on linear algebra. So that I can grasp AI and ML and data science. I'm in my 50s
Exercise gives proficiency. "Bad at math" is seldom inherent. I tried to explain to my "very bad at math" father the principle of algebra by deriving one formula from another. Since his working life had required from him how to apply simple formulae, he at least got the principle of what math actually does.
I am getting to love math by watching your motivation in your video😊 😊
Never stop rocket man🚀
They can get almost any Blitzer book on Ebay. I don't mean to advertising Ebay & I hope its okay for me to mention Ebay. There are several copies of Blitzer's College Algebra on there for as little as 5 dollars. I bought two of of his book Thinking Mathematically ,which is very basic math with some algebra thrown in, and his book Introductory & Intermediate Algebra For College Students. I ordered 4 math total and it only costed me 18.85. Those Blitzer books I bought weren't over 5 dollars each. They also have his books,, Precalculus, and College Algebra & Trigonometry,
First up, programming is the least important topic in a CS degree. I know that makes no sense, but I graduated GA Tech cum laude and I still only knew the C language at the level where I began. The CS curriculum is at least 90% applied math. Oh, right, I did in fact learn LISP, but the language itself was only covered in the first two days of class. Late Adds were out of luck.
The point of the math through linear algebra is to set CS students up for the first important math courses for software designers and engineers. Those being combinatorics and Big O.
In fact, I recommend watching videos on those topics now despite not knowing exactly what they are talking about. If nothing else, a reasonably bright high school student should get a sense for where all this is heading.
After taking combinatorics, I was ashamed of the software I had designed before that class. The topic is THAT important. I was a radiochemistry lab manager with only an associates degree before I went back for my CS BS, and I had already written my own lab management software that connected multiple measuring instruments. However, it would never have scaled up to multiple labs. Knowing combinatorics would have changed all that.
Caveat: This is the short RUclips response, which means its accuracy is fuzzy. BTW, fuzzy variables are another topic that will turn programmers' worlds upside down.
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My sons wife tried to get a Pjd and failed the math qualifier test at the end of the first year. She became a senior director at Amazon.
My daughters future husband got a masters degree in statistic and failed the math qualifier at the end of the first year of economics Phd. Currently hr is very successful doing ecconomic projections for tech companies.
Spend time on maths, discrete maths, algorithms you will love it try it for a few days.
I think it's really important for math people to connect with each other. Just having conversions about math can make us better. Sometimes another person can just point out one thing that makes everything suddenly click when we're really stuck. Or they can show you a useful new approach or technique.
Most colleges have assistant teachers or tutors that you can schedule time with, it may seem a bit extreme, but when you have someone who understands the math, and you work with them with less time constraints as in the classroom, you can learn a lot.
I'm not an expert in either math or computer science (although I did get a BS in computer science in college and have been gainfully employed for most of my professional life in IT-related fields), so take this with a grain of salt, but my advice to people who want to study computer science is to not let their poor math skills deter them from at least _trying_ an introductory computer science course. Yes, math is important for computer science, but how important it will be to your career depends on what field you go into, and _the way in which it is important_ is in my opinion very different than what someone coming out of high school or who is in their first year or two of undergrad would think.
I have never used geometry, trigonometry, or calculus in any job I have ever had, and although I took linear algebra and combinatorics as 300/400-level electives (a requirement for computer science majors at the college I went to), I never used either of those disciplines in the professional sphere, either.
The most important math course I took at college was by far discrete math (sets, relationships, functions, and writing proofs related to those structures), because structures you will encounter in programming languages are very similar to these constructs, and doing proofs will sharpen your ability to rigorously define the conceptual objects you are working with and your ability to know what you do and do not know when you approach a given problem. Basic algebra is also somewhat important, because algebraic notation gives you a sort of technology-independent (think pseudocode) way to rigorously prototype your computer programs. However, it should be noted that programming language statements are _not_ equations, and writing computer code with the same conventions that mathematicians use to write equations is probably not something you want to do (if you are working the same team as me and you name a variable or database table/column alias _x_ , I will give you the Stone Cold Stunner).
In summary, I would say that the most important thing that math study imparts to the budding computer science undergrad is the mathematical _style of thinking_ ; whether or not you have memorized a bunch of esoteric theorems or can carry out long sequences of calculations in your head or on paper is less important.
Nice advice Sir! Thanks as always!
I wanted to request to you if possible for you to please do book reviews on more 'generalized' math books (such as 'expression making' or 'equation making' like how to express ideas thru maths, proportions, and how to be accustomed one self to better skills in this regard)
Pls tell me if u know of any books on 'how to TALK like a mathematician or think like a mathematician
When I was at University iI started a course on Computer Science. I soon came to the conclusion that Computer Science is a branch of mathematics . Later on I found I was not alone in thinking this when I ead about the Clay Foundation's Millennium Problems which include the P VS NP problem that I had studied on my Computer Science course.
this title is hitting me bit to personal
I'm first semester of computer science. Calculus is ending me from all sides, algebra I do understand the base but the second i have to use my knowledge and the learned I suck bad. Like everything I do is false.
I really like maths, I still have fun even though I barely understand shit.
And I actually start understanding the stuff when look at it again two weeks later, but then we are like past 10 new topics.
It's really rough but I haven't had a depressive episode once this semester (normally I have one per year when I'm in a I don't actually want this situation).
But it's still like really hard and I'm actually considering to redo those courses next year, cause I don't believe that I will pass those exams
Sit down and just bust out tons of algebra problems ad nauseum. Students fail because the algebra, not because the topics in calculus
I agree even my teacher said something in how algebra is key to calc
Also yeah I’m like you just that I’m a senior I’m bad at math and cs has math don’t know if that’s a major I want to do but I do it’s the math overall
As you've stated in the past, self study is an invaluable resource for learning and internal motivation. In a sense, it's entertainment unto ourselves for subjects. Again as you just mentioned, structure is the formal side of time/results. IMO, I think a lot of relates strongly to the Dunning-Kruger effect, as "new learners" we tend to exhibit a high enthusiasm (and at times, perhaps, exergerate our understanding). The point is we should build a sense of confidence based upon honest rigor to ourselves, while maintaining our zeal for the discovery aspect.
Spotted the acoustic guitar case? Totally cool Wizard 🤓
You could do a video on lie algebra, with explanations and book recommendations.
Math is a language. It is an art. Treat it like any other language, and you will become as fluent as you wish. Again, no harder than your first language, e.g. English. If you can correct, "I want to get better," to "I would like to improve," then you're halfway there. It's about discipline and dedication. Yes, there are both good and bad math books out there, and as our host here says, "You need a structured game plan." He's right. It is no different than learning how to read with phonics and coding vs. an unstructured rote approach. If you have that, you will learn this language called Math.
Can you understand the text in James Joyce's Finnegan's Wake? Could you write an epic poem in either your native language or English? You can claim you "know" a language because you're good at handling conversations about ordinary topics, but there can be many different subfields, sections, and skills tied to specific uses of a language, just as there are many different fields and subfields in mathematics, each one of which has its own specialized theorems, areas of research and manipulation, and possible applications or extensions.
Maybe it might not be wrong to say "maths" instead of "math" after all.
yeah, I took Calculus 1 course of Udemy and I loved it
Cool
You don't get good at maths by studying; you get good at maths by solving lots and lots of problems! That is the Asian secret to good maths grades. Asians are good at maths (many anyway; there are lazy can't-be- arsed ones, too) because they work harder at solving lots and lots of problems than the average non-Asian student. Don't just study the theory or the techniques; you gotta learn how to apply them by solving problems. Studying is passive; solving problems is active. Maths does not reward you in a test by reciting facts; maths is a test of problem solving skills under a time constrain. To get good at undergraduate maths you have to be very hardworking and just work out problems. It is a skill like shooting hoops- you get better with repetition.I can't emphasise this enough: solve lots of problems, not just the assigned homework problems but problems in the back of the chapter of every maths textbook. When you run out of problems go find somemore in other textbooks. A lightbulb will go on in your head once you have solved many many problems.
Digressing somewhat. The book shelves behind are solid. Where did you to find it?
I will never get sick of seeing your enthusiasm for math! Always makes my day
I'm strongly considering buying some of your courses. Question, going into pre-calc, calc 1, 2 and 3. How important is it to understand sinusoidal functions? I have a basic understanding of them however on Khan academy I struggle with a bunch of the word problems.
Don’t worry about it as long as you have a basic understanding that is good enough for basic calculus !
You don't need to know much math for computer science, unless you are interested in artificial intelligence. There are now many books intended to teach you the math for artificial intelligence (also called data science, machine learning, or deep learning). A lot of programmers are weak in the math for that field.
Uk high school Math doesn’t categorise maths classes the same way as USA. But I never did calculus that much I know. I did a level statistics though
Dude needs to take his math. Math is life.
I'm in a similar boat as him. I wanted to study compsci, but I barely scraped by in grade school math classes.
I purchased both the math sorcerer's college algebra course on Udemy and the College Algebra & Problem Solving course by Arizona State University on Edx.
I spent a lot of time on the latter. I like that it is very practice-focused, but I hate it because it bounces around randomly. It isn't a linear course. Edit: I actually forgot I bought the other course, until I saw this video. It was a needed reminder. 😅😅 (i spent more time on the edx one because I had it first and spent more money on it. Not because I don't like the math sorcerer's course.)
I need to actually buy a couple of math textbooks or practice books.
Wonder what the math sorcerer's perspective is on Khan Academy?
If you can make it through Calc 1 then you'll be fine. Not saying the math to come after that is easy, but it will be doable.
My University had weird bunch of Maths major, I asked for their help in Complex Geometry and they ended up being more confused than me and said not to come again ever again.
In a realm of numbers and equations
Lies a wizard of great repute
The Math Sorcerer, oh so wise
With calculations that astound and delight
He weaves a spell with every sum
His magic wand a pencil and paper
His spells are cast with precision and care
His knowledge of math beyond compare
With his sharp mind and quick wit
He solves puzzles and problems with ease
His answers always correct and precise
Leaving all in awe and surprise
The Math Sorcerer, a true master
Of the art of numbers and equations
His skill and prowess unmatched
In a realm of math, he reigns supreme
So let us praise and laud this wizard
For his greatness and knowledge of math
The Math Sorcerer, oh so wise
A true master of his craft.
(by You-Know-Who/What)
Random thoughts from someone who is good at programming but sucks at math:
You do NOT need to “get” math to be a good programmer.
Math homework has only one path to a right answer. CS homework has lots of paths to the right answer. That’s not strictly true, but in the context of school homework it is basically true. This means you can play around a lot more in CS land and have more fun instead of getting stuck in math land and constantly feeling like you’re wedged in the trash compactor and the walls are closing in. If you naturally love math then you will not feel constrained by math thinking. But if you hate math, CS can be extremely liberating because so much is possible in the solution space for any given problem.
There may come a time where you feel like you’re just not understanding math even after hundreds or thousands of hours of effort. But maybe you’re really understanding programming. Do not beat yourself up over the math struggle. It’s okay. You can still live a wonderful, fulfilling, and useful life.
You can create millions of dollars of value by being a good programmer who doesn’t understand math.
Don’t give up on math, but if you find yourself desperately struggling even after massive effort, you should mostly abandon math and start honing the skills that come naturally to you! We believe in you!
One thing that I like about problems in undergrad CS compared to math is that oftentimes, you can verify whether your reasoning and answers are correct simply by running your solution on a computer. For example, you may find it difficult to, say, calculate an integral, but you can demonstrate that you understand binary search by testing out your algorithm with sample values.
I've also problem in this subject!
Random question, but why are word problems/application questions so difficult?
Hey, Ive bought your calc 1 , and 2 course. I wanna email a question. Im super bad at math, I noticed im uninterested in the subject, and Im also a comp sci major. The coding is fun, and i understand it. But, when it comes to calc and discrete math my brain turns off. Especially on integrals and logic questions. I take notes down. And when i learn how to do a problem the next day or 2 i completely forget how to do them. Is this normal???
Great question hope your well my guy.
Plane trig by SL Loney
This is my exact situation
Great Human
Dear Sir, thank you. Going curious further, I’m wondering from where could I learn Arithmetic properly - for knowledge (and not marks) before doing a pre-algebra? Any nice book on Arithmetic A-Z could you recommend please? So that I don’t miss any part of absolute fundamentals in it.
Art of Problem Solving Prealgebra. Youll thank me later 😁
@@crnojaje9288 Looks like lots of good books at AoPS, interesting 👍thank you
@@thisHandleIsAlsoTaken yes indeed. No peoblem
I will recommend first few chapters from the ' What is Mathematics - Richard Quorant' it has quite short and on point explanation of most of maths topic specially Arithmetic for you. Or just takes grade 3 to 7 maths textbook I bet you can solve them all in 1 week
@@RA-ji6ej Wow ! Saw its preview and exactly what I’m looking for in Arithmetic. Cost effective too. Getting a print version, thank you for taking time to recommend.
Addendum: Having a CS degree does not mean you can design meaningful software. Business software requires deep knowledge of business admin. Medical instrumentation software requires biochemistry. Hospital admin software requires biochemistry AND business admin. Nuclear lab patient billing software requires all of the above plus physics.
Wait until you hit quaternions, gamers.
You can see where this is going.
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I'm bad in math but I'm interested in computer science which math topics I have to study
discrete math is one you probably have to take
my question is for all of people who knows SAT EXAM : is it mostly algebra or pre algebra?
Can you make one for the other way around? I’m “good” at math but comp sci is really hard for me
what parts of comp sci would you say you struggle with ?
I also recommend khan academy as he has very structured videos on most courses up to things like vector calculus and his explanations focus heavily on intuition.
Don't study maths for GPA just find out how it benefit u
Nice say what do you refer or mean by this thanks
Sincerely,
Winger
does anyone here like the band Rush?
hey hey....lol....college algebra....between 8 books n the math sorcerer's humble offerings....should be an ace in the hole!
He needs (jesus) proof-based mathematics in his life. I find a lot of programmer's who say they are 'bad at math' but then will endlessly try to make the perfect programs (often to the detriment of productivity) are really trying to do mathematics. But if he's anything like me, the way math is presented in school and college (for Computer Science) is so utilitarian that you completely miss the point and basically walk around with math blindness. Sure you can study and get good grades by following your CS course, but you will never get that feeling you get when trying to write the most 'elegant' code. If you start from the theoretical side of math (say Basic Mathematics serg lang) you start to get blurry math vision, but you can at least begin to see the wood for the trees and most importantly you will become inspired and excited the same way you first did when you realised you could compile a program and it would fill the array etc.
My advice: Don't just pick up a math book and start doing exercises, begin study like you are a math major. Get up to high school level by way of proofs, then do apostol calc maybe shilov linear algebra. Start deep sea diving and discovering the creatures that have evolved underneath where no light hits. Explore your own mind. In less than a year my view of the world and myself has changed. A fellow 'Bad At Math' person all my life, I am able to understand and do proofs that I never would have imagined possible. And now recently I have just returned to programming and I just think in such a superior way, and I don't feel the need to make programs perfect anymore because I get that satisfaction correctly from mathematics, now I see programs rightfully as just a set of instructions and there is no 'ideal' attached, there's no 'identity' and little association between the way the program is created and how I feel about it.
What type of math should I know, in order to apply for CS admission in the USA?
Generally, whatever math you took at high school would be fine. In the worst-case scenario, you'll have to take a remedial course or two. I'd suggest checking particular university sites or contacting them and ask whether you meet the prerequisites to go to their program.
@@eatmoregames5026 Ok, thanks a lot.
Order of operations... x / + - ? After that I am confused by how things go because i go to use this and i do it wrong. Math is evil to me.
what about the case where a math student struggles with computer science?
That’s me but I’m a cs student, good at math tho lol
Is it reasonable/realistic for him to study computer science if he's not good at math?
Yes. I was so garbage at math (and a lazy student) when I entered college I had to take the remedial course before College Algebra. I then failed College Algebra lol. I got my act together and passed all my other math courses with B's (stats/prob, discrete, linear algebra) and even tested out of Calc. Linear Algebra was an 89% lol lame but whatever.
I probably could have done better, but I also have a life to live lol point being, you can suck at math but if you try hard enough and have even some aptitude you will do fine.
@@tear728 I guess "aptitude" is the magic word/variable. Everyone does not posses the same amount of aptitude in a given subject, or you would not include it in your statement. Congratulations on your accomplishment. But your example/sample size is too small for proof. I can present another example with exact opposite outcome that cancel each other out. Perhaps we must be more objective in our evaluation and see where the data/message is coming from. Education industry/or someone working in education financial aid will have you believe study hard/try hard you can achieve anything... Maybe if we practice at flapping our arms hard enough we might achieve flight. I'm certain, no matter how hard i try I won't ever be able to bench press 800LBS, but there's another man who accomplished that.
I study math and am bad at math
So the honor student is good at memorizing material.
Sir please call about your education qualification i am maths lover
dear math sorcerer i have a degree in manegenment, i had math i deeply like but i want to know more and more about the world around me and i think math answer all thats quentions. should i take another degree in math or a master in math??
You can try starting out by learning one math subject by yourself that's just above what you've already mastered so far. If you've gone up to Calculus, try Linear Algebra. If you've gone up to high school-level algebra, try Calculus. Set aside at least 2 hours each day for it and see if you can stick to it for a long while. If you can get through an entire textbook on the subject, solving every single problem in it, then you can move onto the next one. Slowly head into unknown territory by yourself, such as by covering mathematical logic, set theory, graph theory, real analysis, etc.
If, after more than 6 months, you still really enjoy studying mathematics for its own sake, then you can take some courses for it, be it online or at your local university. If you honestly love math and still have patience to study it for 4 entire years, you can get a bachelor's degree in maths, and afterwards, if you still want even more math, you can get a master's degree in math to cover more advanced topics.
Just please bear in mind that what mathematicians study is numbers and relations between them, for their own sake. There are many scientific fields, like physics, chemistry, economics etc. which make use of mathematical expressions, equations, and models, but these scientific fields use only a small fraction of all the math that exists out there, and that you might not necessarily learn about applications for everything you would study if you were to study pure maths.
Good luck and I hope you find out what you really want to learn math for.
I'm in trouble i study very deep in physics and love long steps problems in maths
Shall I make career on programming or coder?
Someone plz suggest i will be very thankful plz
Coder imo depends what you want to do obviously code etc
I am really scared , I am starting to want to start a degree en computer science but my maths are less than good , like i guess I just can make addition and division , xd
How can you study computer science and be bad at math? Computer science is obviously just a subfield of math 😂😂 (I’m not really that arrogant) but like seriously. “You give me one field any field and I’ll tell you how it’s a subfield of math” 😂
Yup. Even linguistics is at least 70% set theory.
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@@ardiris2715 oh yes that’s just the vocabulary grammar is really just a specific form of algebra so that means that language is at least 90 percent math
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My senior AI project was writing German to English translation software using only functional LISP. IOW, no side effects like variables.
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@@ardiris2715 that sounds very cool (:
I need your help sir my name is Brian sorry if am bothering you but I need advice because am really bad at maths but I want to do computer science 😢😢
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Don't.
Math, physics and engineering majors know CS is a trade skill. It’s slightly above an IT degree.
Go to physics and CS is expected
Go to math and CS is expected
Go to engineering and CS skills are expected.
Nobody is more expendable than a CS major with zero math skills.
Thank you for these videos.