They talked a lot about graphics and from the images they showed they're remaking Halo CE. Graphics haven't ever been an issue for myself or most folks I'd wager. And a Halo CE Remake? Will it get the same treatment as the TV show? This studio should make a stand-alone game and see if they can make that work. Let Chief's legacy be. Like you said, how are they changing the recipe?
@donrha Over a decade has shown that, I'm cautiously optimistic though. But even my gf said she didn't want women making Halo games. She said when she plays she wants violence and destruction haha. You were right, bring back the old developers no matter the cost. Graphics don't make a lasting game, better graphics come out everyday. The only reason there's as many Halo fans today as there is is because of the original games.
@@novadelsol8127 At the very LEAST get the OG devs blessing. If they're serious that's the only way to really go about it. They don't seem to realize how much damage was done to the franchise over the past 14 years.
For what it's worth the show was Paramount's mess, no one else's. The showrunners had sit downs with lore people from 343 during the script writing process and outright bragged about ignoring them, the games and the books since they wanted to do something "different", and 343 themselves were pretty quick to disavow the project as a separate timeline with no impact on the games even as early as the original marketing. At the very least they knew what the trainwreck was, they were just powerless to stop it after signing the contract and giving Paramount creative control.
@@DonRha notice how every halotuber released their video at exactly the same time wi exactly the same thumbnail and the same all caps title. HiddenXperia even pretending to be excited for the 8,000,000th time 😂
@@O_Godz yea MS is involved because of 343 putting Microsoft 14 million in tech debt. That’s why Cosmetics prices went up a year and so ago. But they lowered them, and now you can buy each individual piece of the new/returning bundle instead of the whole bundle. They also added a ton of crap for shop and the exchange. We’ve been asking for this for like 2 years lol.
@@prevail14 F***king silence yourself heretic. Achilles armor is selling for $38 -$19 in the store right now. Go paint your nails and oil up fake gamer 🙄💅
@@infernaldaedra that’s not what I said. I said and “mean” we’ve been asking for lower prices, cheaper bundles, a way to buy individual pieces of a bundle if you just like one or two things, and charge for a fair price. The halo community has been asking for 2 years, especially all the main Halo RUclipsrs like MintBlitz for example.
@@DonRha I do. I do a lot I call them out on there BS everytime it go worst after Halo 5 ended they were all in content drought so easy to buy their opinions on anything
The fact that they are re-making Halo 1 proves they are incapable of any new ideas. Only taking what was once beautiful and destroying it. Like everything the woke virus touches.
@@luke78333 Yeah they're doing it twice now? The fact that more people don't see how totally ridiculous it is annoys me. These are corporate non creatives making these decisions not real fans.
@@DonRha Is it possible they make something great? Brother the only great thing they’ve made was MCC, which wasn’t even their own work. Infinite was terrible, 4 and 5 were awful. Maybe you could say Halo Wars 2, but I liked HW1 better. Until they roll back DEI, short work contracts, and focus on creating fun gameplay Halo will never be back
@@jordivarela7160 well the LGBTQ people are literally ruining the entertainment industry, so I think it’s fair for people to get scared about seeing one.
@@jordivarela7160remember, if it wasn’t a big deal, the left wouldn’t push it so hard😂always pull out the abuse tactics when people don’t like your agenda.
If 343i was the pistol that the traumatized marine blew his brains out with, than Halo Studios is the Flood Infection Form that has taken possession of his corpse and now uses it as a lifeless husk.
I mean seriously can you see that thing giving a single sht about Halo? The only reason it's even on her mind is because it's her job. DEI Hire to boot.
They already have a “Halo Studios” Rainbow stickers!!!!🌈 someone I know happen to visit “Halo Studios” yesterday and got a bunch of these f rainbow stickers like wtf is this shit. This is a Sci-fi military FPS Shooter not Fortnite
343's staff has essentially been completely replaced after infinite came out. none of the people who worked on 4, 5 or infinite are there anymore. renaming the studio made sense.
I understand your rage. I was thinking the same about them not playing the actual Halo games. 100% sure they never did. (especially not CO-OP since all their coops attempts have failed hard) One thing though, what always bothered me in the original Halo was the movement but it‘s understandable since they didn‘t have the capabilities to make them better. I always wanted to feel like a spartan while playing the games and that‘s the only thing 343 got right in Halo 5 and then they threw it again. Sad.
I'm embarrassed for people who think anything has changed. The first video the "new" team put out was yet another over produced Disney/Marvel/Star Wars style corporate video, going over some over produced visual content which never was/is what the series needs. But that's the AAA industry for you. The suits are in charge. The creative people are systematically driven out.
Broooo I needed this video! I’ve been saying the same thing. All these devs think moving to UE will save their IP. CD Projekt to name one. They spend millions on making an engine, that they then scrap for UE. I’m in IT. Build a solid framework that the engineers and artists can use to make their job easier and focus on making a great game. Done. Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Gorilla Games, and Rockstar Games all spent the time, energy, and money to build their own engines. Look at their track record. Enough said!
Thinking like that is naive in a lot of cases. I like to approach things with a level head. I know there's many that will argue I'm not doing that but those people aren't owning their bias.
A big thing about the new engine is that since halo 2 halo's engine has been holding it back, they've been making new games on an old engine. It's the same problem Bethesda has been struggling with since Skyrim. The current engine "the slip space engine" is a complete disaster and any update to the game has to go through a significant amount of testing and engineering for even basic fixes and design implements so it limits the team time wise and creative wise. With unreal none of that is an issue, they can be as creative as they want with out the worry of making the game work on a broken engine. 🤷♂️
The switch to UE5 isn't the problem. It's a good thing because they won't have to simultaneously build out an engine and a game at the same time. But the issue was never with the graphics. It was the horribly written stories and soulless multiplayer experience.
@@DonRhathat's fair From what I've seen a big problem with the writing and multiplayer was due to them never having a consistent creative team, microsoft opted to go from short term contractor to short term contractor as opposed to full time employees so there was a constant change in development every few months with people constantly trying to learn the broken engine. With the recent rebrand into halo industries the team that made the past games isn't making them anymore. And the with man who fixed the master chief collection at the helm I personally have hope for the series. I understand if people don't however as we've had to deal with a lot of crap over the years.
I am cautiously optimistic, they are improving infinite by adding new weapons and stuff, but to me, as long as Microsoft is involved i don’t think halo studios can really reach halos full potential.
This video was made with an anger and contempt that comes from factors unrelated to what they are being brought upon. I feel sadness for the people who have to take these words and pity for those who give them. I hope the best for you and all those with a vitriol that can never be quelled and I have hope that one day introspection will lead you down a better path.
@@DonRha Did talk a bit old english with that lol, I’d probably take back the word pity since it implies that I feel im better. I think im pretty fucking cool, but not better, didn’t mean it that way, still I stand by that I hope the best for you!
@@abirdwitharms The internet pretty much broke the second Halo studios came out the shadows and saying 343 is gone. What’s crazy is 90% of the internet agreed “Fire Bonnie Ross” so we did. “Fire 343” we did that, now the internet has broken, 50% loosing their minds, other 50% excited as hell but being skeptical this time
@@prevail14 Discourse has always been common and thats fine, but the hate towards specific individuals, it’s really sad to see. To say you couldn’t be a fan or are most likely not a fan because of who you are is a really painful sentiment and just straight up not what the games stand for. “The game will never be something I can see myself in because you are there.” Imagine growing up on these games and finally having a position to give back to what was given to you so long ago and just the sight of you makes all your love and goodwill unwelcome. I don’t know this person, but I know people who are like them who LOVE this franchise with a passion and understanding that surpasses my own. To not be accepted is a great pain, and the people who make these videos know that pain too. So to bring it upon someone else is just a perpetuation of all that hurt. And the poor truth is that there’s nothing anyone can do except the perpetrator to make a change for the better. The only answer I’ve found that I think could be right is in the face of contempt to be sincerely loving regardless, and hoping that they see that love for themselves and make a choice for the better.
@@abirdwitharms your first Paragraph. Are you talking about me or just “You”- as in general? Because I love halo I grew up with it. I was playing CE before it released in 2000 at Bungie studios. Despite what people look like or what there beliefs are doesn’t mean you should be toxic and attack them. But I am happy the complete old management is GONE! I waited years for a good halo game, Halo 4 was ok but Halo 5 blew! Th campaign and storyline I mean. The MP was ok I guess, I didn’t play/like the new spartan style designs. But when Infinite released (campaign) I fell in love with it, despite only have the same Biome, but that wasn’t the campaign teams fault, they were locked away for years away from every else, limited resources and they still did an amazing job! Especially for halos first opened world! And as far as MP, I love it (now since it’s fixed and has content) best game 343 made. But obviously Bungie games were the best and my favorite
It's not just Halo having people like Melissa Boone work on the games my dudes. I seriously doubt she has even played Halo 1 to Reach even once. It's the entire gaming industry that's being forced to implement DEI policies. It's coming from the top, it's the hedge funds, investment banks, and private equity who manage tens of trillions of dollars, who are major investors in public companies, that force DEI policies. Blackrock's CEO Larry Fink said, "you have to force behavior" and "your funding will be affected" if companies don't implement ESG and DEI into their company policies. It's why all these companies are scared to not implement DEI into their work or their stocks will tank. This is why modern media lacks soul and creativity, because companies are more interested in pleasing shareholders than making good content. Gone are the old days folks. RIP Halo 2000 - 2010.
I completely agree with everything that you said in this video, moving to unreal engine 5 is a good move especially how quick they could throw out games but I’m not playing halo for multiplayer spending £20 on armour bundles nah I just wanna play some campaign but let’s be fair they can’t even get that right
How about you consider the 3 waves of layoffs and total leadership switch from a legit press release 2 years ago. It’s not just a name change, actually look into it. 2/3rds of the studio was gutted and replaced. Also nobody, not even the big RUclipsrs, are blindly hyping this up in the sense of “Halo is back!” Yeah no shit they’re going to ride the hype off of the only news in years for a dedicated Halo channel, like wtf. They’ve all said they are “cautiously optimistic” about the whole thing. Watch Installation00’s take on the whole matter for a good opinion.
Thank you for calling out the big halo channels and how they just put out content fast for views. It annoys me how big halo channels like hiddenxperia, halo follower, mint blitz and more, are hyping up this news like halo is saved and that 343 is no more. It’s literally a fuckin rebrand. I legit cringed when hiddenexperia got excited after seeing water graphics made in unreal engine 5, like wtf. So many Halo fans are some of the most thirsty, and desperate fans in gaming, and this is coming from a huge halo fan, been playing since 2001
thankyou for calling out this BULLSHIT everytime, youre one of the people who sees through it everytime they try to hype people up, while others fall for it. i dont know how they fall for it. those arent gamers in that studio. Halo was done and died a while ago and accepted it the day after halo infinite came out. its just really unfortunate that we have to witness its dead corpse get kicked around and graverobbed by these games and shows thatll keep coming out. maybe one day, in like the next decade, someone who grew up with the original halo and truly admires it will eventually get there hands on it when the franchise is worth next to nothing by that point. hopefully a filmmaker.
I could die a happy man if I got to take part in the making of a Halo film. I just want to do right by the original creators and fans. No one has done a good adaption yet and it's criminal.
@@DonRha I grew up playing the original trilogy too. While I agree with the things you said in the video, I just don't knw how to feel. Whether is be the black girl with the hair who's only the Chief of Staff or the guy who there who was ranting about having to work on a game that has guns in it, though idk what his position is in the company, yeah, that does warrant some worry, I just don't know how to feel. I just want Halo to be good again, I want to be optimistic, but seeing all the raising concerns makes it harder to be optimistic.
In addition to all the spot on points you made. How about the high probability that they’re remaking Halo:CE now instead of oh, ya know, finishing the story from Infinite? Atriox? Who GAF. The Endless…nope. We’ll make Halo:CE but more better-er because 4K GrApHiCs nOw! That alone is a show of this studio still not learning from their mistakes.
Unreal Engine 5 solves resource management, resources are the problem. Imagining building a car in your garage, and you have to do it all from scratch. Machine every part of an engine, tune, and make the replacement parts from scratch. Or you just buy an engine, that’s probably better than your homemade one and is cheaper too. Why make something from scratch, when some ones already done a better job, and they’ll let you use it. It’s not about graphics it’s about upkeep. Now if Microsoft wants to put 300 million dollars into halo, it can be into halo itself, and not waste half of it developing all the technology behind the scenes. People whining about this just want to whine. Video game fans can’t stfu about anything, like they’re in the trenches making games.
I'm lost... What does her LinkedIn profile have to do with whether she is or isn't a halo fan? Also "You think this thing goes home..." Fucking yikes dude.
Halo Infinite does look like they were trying to be like Destiny. But then why didnt Bungie just make Halo into Destiny if thats what it ended up turning into?
You’re the only one that said masterchief looks plastic lol, I kept saying the same thing haha the trilogy was beautiful and paired with the gameplay a masterpiece. (Reach Was cool too) Ever since then even infinite looks like plastic and the armour is all rounded and weird looking even the classics. Everyone praising these new graphics how did they not see the toy chief bro haha And halo is owned by big tech and they gotta make back that 500mill so…. Not ideal
Changing to unreal makes it easier to make video games. Every game dev on the planet knows how to use it not a soul knew how to use the slip space engine
Do know why they switch to unreal? It’s because the slip space engine held them back and made development a living hell. Plus it’s pretty buggy. Also you have to have 6 months of training in order to even work with the old engine and even then, the slip space engine still a nightmare to use. Plus the slip space engine is INCREDIBLY outdated
I could make a case that if the story was better people would've accepted the multiplayer. They just have no sense of direction over there. The writing was abysmal.
From their explanation, using unreal is gonna speed things up a lot as apparently, unreal is pretty standard and easier to teach newer devs than the split gate engine. But that doesn't fix the fact the majority of the team are still clowns
Almost impossible to convince a Bungie zealot that there are actually inspired devs in the team who want to make a good Halo. They live for the pessimism. Also hello again, WigWoos, you hobkin stinker. 🫵
Bit entirely true, but mostly. Pierre, the new studio head isn’t new, however, he was the one in charge of bringing the MCC out of the grave, so I think he has a good track record compared to most of 343
I’d agree that it has always looked good graphically but the art style has started to get fixed with the exception to the dog shit Hexagonal walls justified with the shitty excuse that the ring was falling apart. The only excitement I got from the rebrand trailer was that I didn’t see that shit. I saw an art style that I liked, but god forbid I say that because I feel like I’d jinx it.
I feel like people too easily shrugged it off like it was okay that a designer said hey you know that Minecraft floating survival island look, yeah let’s go with that, oh and make it look alien with Hexagons.
UE5 Does look nice, and that's definitely the easiest selling point a company can push. The main benefit of UE5 isn't just the pretty visuals, it's that it's one of the most powerful engines with a developed and efficient workflow. I'll give them one chance, I think Halo Infinite was a step in the right direction, it did feel like Halo, but it had a pathetic amount of content and too many failed promises. Infinite's lack of content, and lack of fucks can be blamed on management leads, and the engine, both of which are gone. The one thing that can't change, however, Is Microsoft. I doubt the franchise will be allowed to suffer as much as it had in Infinites lifespan again, the entire gaming sphere shat on 343, no way that doesn't change things. But until this "new" studio can prove itself, most everyone will carry over their sentiment of 343
Unreal Engine solves a massive problem. It frees up a massive amount of resources for developers to focus only on the game, instead of having to wrestle with the development and maintenance of a failed engine. You don't know the entire roster of Halo Studios - you are just hating.
so first most of the devs are new solving the problem that the original 343 aka the ones who worked on h4 trough to the first year of infinite hired a TON of people that didint like didint know anything about or downright Hated halo meaning theres a chance the story will be better also ue5 fixes long time for content updates since slipspace engine was a pain for them and we all know its trash its the reason for almost ALL of the bugs in infinite
wich helps even more when you realise that the game died mostly bc it had a shit ton of nothing for content and could not get in updates bc of the engine
Did you just see the pride flag a you immediately thought that halo is dead? Unlike you, I did a bit of digging into her and it looks promising enough. Also she hasn’t even helped make a halo game yet and you’re saying that halo is doomed all because of a pride flag. You need to chill out on the Hatorade
@@DonRha and you’re just proving my point. Don’t jump to conclusions if you haven’t done your homework. And you VERY clearly haven’t done your homework.
@@DonRha I DID RESEARCH ON THIS WHOLE THING!!! THE ONLY RESEARCH YOU DID WAS MELISSA BOONE’S PROFILE PICK AND JUST A BUNCH OF UNBACKED UP ASSUMPTIONS!!!
They talked a lot about graphics and from the images they showed they're remaking Halo CE. Graphics haven't ever been an issue for myself or most folks I'd wager. And a Halo CE Remake? Will it get the same treatment as the TV show? This studio should make a stand-alone game and see if they can make that work. Let Chief's legacy be. Like you said, how are they changing the recipe?
@@novadelsol8127 Yeah who knows all we know is they don't have a good track record.
@donrha Over a decade has shown that, I'm cautiously optimistic though. But even my gf said she didn't want women making Halo games. She said when she plays she wants violence and destruction haha. You were right, bring back the old developers no matter the cost. Graphics don't make a lasting game, better graphics come out everyday. The only reason there's as many Halo fans today as there is is because of the original games.
@@novadelsol8127 At the very LEAST get the OG devs blessing. If they're serious that's the only way to really go about it. They don't seem to realize how much damage was done to the franchise over the past 14 years.
For what it's worth the show was Paramount's mess, no one else's. The showrunners had sit downs with lore people from 343 during the script writing process and outright bragged about ignoring them, the games and the books since they wanted to do something "different", and 343 themselves were pretty quick to disavow the project as a separate timeline with no impact on the games even as early as the original marketing. At the very least they knew what the trainwreck was, they were just powerless to stop it after signing the contract and giving Paramount creative control.
We got a CE remake already, that was fucking sick
The hype around this rebranding is so forced
Totally overblown.
@@DonRha notice how every halotuber released their video at exactly the same time wi exactly the same thumbnail and the same all caps title. HiddenXperia even pretending to be excited for the 8,000,000th time 😂
@@infernaldaedraAnother perceptive person with common sense, huge respect!
As long as Microsoft is involved, this series wont reach its full potential.
@@O_Godz yea MS is involved because of 343 putting Microsoft 14 million in tech debt. That’s why Cosmetics prices went up a year and so ago. But they lowered them, and now you can buy each individual piece of the new/returning bundle instead of the whole bundle. They also added a ton of crap for shop and the exchange. We’ve been asking for this for like 2 years lol.
@@prevail14 F***king silence yourself heretic. Achilles armor is selling for $38 -$19 in the store right now. Go paint your nails and oil up fake gamer 🙄💅
@@prevail14 we never asked for Halo infinite to be only premium cosmetics or limited time unlocks.
@@infernaldaedra that’s not what I said. I said and “mean” we’ve been asking for lower prices, cheaper bundles, a way to buy individual pieces of a bundle if you just like one or two things, and charge for a fair price. The halo community has been asking for 2 years, especially all the main Halo RUclipsrs like MintBlitz for example.
@@prevail14 the bundles and individual items are over double what they should be and the aren't even that good of designs half the time.
It's just embarrassing at this point. Let the franchise rest in peace or give it to a competent studio or something.
They're gonna milk this thing till there's nothing left from the old games.
Halo went downhill the moment they took out shotty-snipes.
Or when they added ADS
@@SalsaNinja13meh, nothing wrong with ads, they gotta stay with the times
That's also how you know they haven't changed, they're still anti old bungie
I love this video, everyone is so “hype” for this but it’s like everyone forgot the past 10 years.
Oh Halo…. I miss you.
Haven't seen chief since Halo 3 as far as I'm concerned.
Reach was worthy
Yeah, hard to believe there hasn't been a new Halo since 2010.
@@Beaver.17 lol
@@DonRha reach was great.
Really a sad time for true Halo fans
Those "franchise youtuber" are just as god awful as 343i/HS itself. This is now the second video I saw that pointed this out, thanks for that!
No one ever says anything about them because they have the microphones. I'd like to change that.
@@DonRha I do. I do a lot I call them out on there BS everytime it go worst after Halo 5 ended they were all in content drought so easy to buy their opinions on anything
They should've changed the name to Corporate Halo 😂
At least they'd be honest. I can get down with that haha
Thanks for calling out those scum Halo RUclipsrs!
The fact that they are re-making Halo 1 proves they are incapable of any new ideas. Only taking what was once beautiful and destroying it. Like everything the woke virus touches.
@@luke78333 Yeah they're doing it twice now? The fact that more people don't see how totally ridiculous it is annoys me. These are corporate non creatives making these decisions not real fans.
@@DonRhaI'm skeptical, but optimistic, especially if the really decide to release it on ps5
so ridiculous. Until they take away EOMM, we are gunna be playing the same BS game on a different engine.
you thought sbmm was bad lol
Finally, someone with common sense! Thank you.
They’ll have to prove they can save this franchise, I think it’s over. It’s been over for awhile now
Is it possible they make something great? yeah... unlikely.. yes.
@@DonRha Is it possible they make something great? Brother the only great thing they’ve made was MCC, which wasn’t even their own work. Infinite was terrible, 4 and 5 were awful. Maybe you could say Halo Wars 2, but I liked HW1 better. Until they roll back DEI, short work contracts, and focus on creating fun gameplay Halo will never be back
as soon as I saw the purple popcorn hair thing on my screen I knew halo was still deep in the pits of hell.
😅😅 That made me laugh
Y’all are literally melting down over a person who appeared for less than 7 seconds lol. Calm down snowflake ❄️
@@jordivarela7160 well the LGBTQ people are literally ruining the entertainment industry, so I think it’s fair for people to get scared about seeing one.
@@jordivarela7160 Clearly you didn't watch the video. Always a leftist that couldn't handle being called a snowflake projecting onto others.
@@jordivarela7160remember, if it wasn’t a big deal, the left wouldn’t push it so hard😂always pull out the abuse tactics when people don’t like your agenda.
If 343i was the pistol that the traumatized marine blew his brains out with, than Halo Studios is the Flood Infection Form that has taken possession of his corpse and now uses it as a lifeless husk.
This thing does not go home and play Halo 🤣
I mean seriously can you see that thing giving a single sht about Halo? The only reason it's even on her mind is because it's her job. DEI Hire to boot.
the absolute stockholm syndrome of the fanbase is sending me lately 😂
😅
It’s not just a simple rename, almost the entire old leader ship is gone.
Absolutely agree. The worst part is big creators like moist critikal and asmongold spreading the news without knowing how hollow it is.
They already have a “Halo Studios” Rainbow stickers!!!!🌈 someone I know happen to visit “Halo Studios” yesterday and got a bunch of these f rainbow stickers like wtf is this shit. This is a Sci-fi military FPS Shooter not Fortnite
i get your point but ain't no one is gonna believe your story bro
@@alduinfr that’s all good, already uploaded it to twitter.
As soon as i saw Melissa Boone i knew halo studios aka still 343 wont release anything worth playing
343 ruined halo. We all miss Bungie
They fired most of the old studio heads and the guy who’s in charge now is the same guy who saved mcc
After 10 years ? 🤣
343's staff has essentially been completely replaced after infinite came out. none of the people who worked on 4, 5 or infinite are there anymore. renaming the studio made sense.
I understand your rage. I was thinking the same about them not playing the actual Halo games. 100% sure they never did. (especially not CO-OP since all their coops attempts have failed hard)
One thing though, what always bothered me in the original Halo was the movement but it‘s understandable since they didn‘t have the capabilities to make them better. I always wanted to feel like a spartan while playing the games and that‘s the only thing 343 got right in Halo 5 and then they threw it again. Sad.
I'm embarrassed for people who think anything has changed. The first video the "new" team put out was yet another over produced Disney/Marvel/Star Wars style corporate video, going over some over produced visual content which never was/is what the series needs. But that's the AAA industry for you. The suits are in charge. The creative people are systematically driven out.
@@ScarletSnake It's funny how many people have already flipped on Halo Studios. Nah we know who the industry shills are.
Broooo I needed this video! I’ve been saying the same thing. All these devs think moving to UE will save their IP. CD Projekt to name one. They spend millions on making an engine, that they then scrap for UE. I’m in IT. Build a solid framework that the engineers and artists can use to make their job easier and focus on making a great game. Done. Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Gorilla Games, and Rockstar Games all spent the time, energy, and money to build their own engines. Look at their track record. Enough said!
I don’t think it’s that people are easily fooled, more so that we desperately cling on to the hope of a better future
Thinking like that is naive in a lot of cases. I like to approach things with a level head. I know there's many that will argue I'm not doing that but those people aren't owning their bias.
Man you are scathing, but it's so refreshing to hear someone just lay down the truth.
@@luke78333 It doesn't keep me up at night, but I think it's necessary to tell it like it is.
A big thing about the new engine is that since halo 2 halo's engine has been holding it back, they've been making new games on an old engine. It's the same problem Bethesda has been struggling with since Skyrim. The current engine "the slip space engine" is a complete disaster and any update to the game has to go through a significant amount of testing and engineering for even basic fixes and design implements so it limits the team time wise and creative wise. With unreal none of that is an issue, they can be as creative as they want with out the worry of making the game work on a broken engine. 🤷♂️
The switch to UE5 isn't the problem. It's a good thing because they won't have to simultaneously build out an engine and a game at the same time. But the issue was never with the graphics. It was the horribly written stories and soulless multiplayer experience.
@@DonRhathat's fair
From what I've seen a big problem with the writing and multiplayer was due to them never having a consistent creative team, microsoft opted to go from short term contractor to short term contractor as opposed to full time employees so there was a constant change in development every few months with people constantly trying to learn the broken engine. With the recent rebrand into halo industries the team that made the past games isn't making them anymore. And the with man who fixed the master chief collection at the helm I personally have hope for the series.
I understand if people don't however as we've had to deal with a lot of crap over the years.
I am cautiously optimistic, they are improving infinite by adding new weapons and stuff, but to me, as long as Microsoft is involved i don’t think halo studios can really reach halos full potential.
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This video was made with an anger and contempt that comes from factors unrelated to what they are being brought upon.
I feel sadness for the people who have to take these words and pity for those who give them.
I hope the best for you and all those with a vitriol that can never be quelled and I have hope that one day introspection will lead you down a better path.
Man that was such a profound statement. Maybe spend less time on tik tok you'll be able to comprehend what was said 🤫
@@DonRha
Did talk a bit old english with that lol, I’d probably take back the word pity since it implies that I feel im better. I think im pretty fucking cool, but not better, didn’t mean it that way, still I stand by that I hope the best for you!
@@abirdwitharms The internet pretty much broke the second Halo studios came out the shadows and saying 343 is gone. What’s crazy is 90% of the internet agreed “Fire Bonnie Ross” so we did. “Fire 343” we did that, now the internet has broken, 50% loosing their minds, other 50% excited as hell but being skeptical this time
@@prevail14
Discourse has always been common and thats fine, but the hate towards specific individuals, it’s really sad to see. To say you couldn’t be a fan or are most likely not a fan because of who you are is a really painful sentiment and just straight up not what the games stand for.
“The game will never be something I can see myself in because you are there.” Imagine growing up on these games and finally having a position to give back to what was given to you so long ago and just the sight of you makes all your love and goodwill unwelcome. I don’t know this person, but I know people who are like them who LOVE this franchise with a passion and understanding that surpasses my own.
To not be accepted is a great pain, and the people who make these videos know that pain too. So to bring it upon someone else is just a perpetuation of all that hurt. And the poor truth is that there’s nothing anyone can do except the perpetrator to make a change for the better.
The only answer I’ve found that I think could be right is in the face of contempt to be sincerely loving regardless, and hoping that they see that love for themselves and make a choice for the better.
@@abirdwitharms your first Paragraph. Are you talking about me or just “You”- as in general?
Because I love halo I grew up with it. I was playing CE before it released in 2000 at Bungie studios. Despite what people look like or what there beliefs are doesn’t mean you should be toxic and attack them. But I am happy the complete old management is GONE!
I waited years for a good halo game, Halo 4 was ok but Halo 5 blew! Th campaign and storyline I mean. The MP was ok I guess, I didn’t play/like the new spartan style designs.
But when Infinite released (campaign) I fell in love with it, despite only have the same Biome, but that wasn’t the campaign teams fault, they were locked away for years away from every else, limited resources and they still did an amazing job! Especially for halos first opened world! And as far as MP, I love it (now since it’s fixed and has content) best game 343 made. But obviously Bungie games were the best and my favorite
Jason Jones is still involved with Bungie... I doubt he'd want to leave his own company.
It's not just Halo having people like Melissa Boone work on the games my dudes. I seriously doubt she has even played Halo 1 to Reach even once. It's the entire gaming industry that's being forced to implement DEI policies.
It's coming from the top, it's the hedge funds, investment banks, and private equity who manage tens of trillions of dollars, who are major investors in public companies, that force DEI policies. Blackrock's CEO Larry Fink said, "you have to force behavior" and "your funding will be affected" if companies don't implement ESG and DEI into their company policies. It's why all these companies are scared to not implement DEI into their work or their stocks will tank.
This is why modern media lacks soul and creativity, because companies are more interested in pleasing shareholders than making good content. Gone are the old days folks. RIP Halo 2000 - 2010.
I think the 343 era games look awful graphically for their time.
Other than that I 100% agree.
I hated H4 but it looked great (Not the art style) Looked better than H5 3 years later kinda crazy.
I completely agree with everything that you said in this video, moving to unreal engine 5 is a good move especially how quick they could throw out games but I’m not playing halo for multiplayer spending £20 on armour bundles nah I just wanna play some campaign but let’s be fair they can’t even get that right
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@@areenkhachadouri7754 😅 how to kill a car company in 30 seconds
How about you consider the 3 waves of layoffs and total leadership switch from a legit press release 2 years ago. It’s not just a name change, actually look into it. 2/3rds of the studio was gutted and replaced.
Also nobody, not even the big RUclipsrs, are blindly hyping this up in the sense of “Halo is back!” Yeah no shit they’re going to ride the hype off of the only news in years for a dedicated Halo channel, like wtf. They’ve all said they are “cautiously optimistic” about the whole thing. Watch Installation00’s take on the whole matter for a good opinion.
I agree with everything you’ve said. But I’m also going to be cautiously optimistic
I think we all hope they do a good job. It's just unlikely.
Thank you for calling out the big halo channels and how they just put out content fast for views. It annoys me how big halo channels like hiddenxperia, halo follower, mint blitz and more, are hyping up this news like halo is saved and that 343 is no more. It’s literally a fuckin rebrand. I legit cringed when hiddenexperia got excited after seeing water graphics made in unreal engine 5, like wtf. So many Halo fans are some of the most thirsty, and desperate fans in gaming, and this is coming from a huge halo fan, been playing since 2001
@@SirAuron777 He's a fake fan. He's got 343 on speed dial, he's just a mouthpiece for them.
thankyou for calling out this BULLSHIT everytime, youre one of the people who sees through it everytime they try to hype people up, while others fall for it. i dont know how they fall for it. those arent gamers in that studio.
Halo was done and died a while ago and accepted it the day after halo infinite came out. its just really unfortunate that we have to witness its dead corpse get kicked around and graverobbed by these games and shows thatll keep coming out.
maybe one day, in like the next decade, someone who grew up with the original halo and truly admires it will eventually get there hands on it when the franchise is worth next to nothing by that point. hopefully a filmmaker.
I could die a happy man if I got to take part in the making of a Halo film. I just want to do right by the original creators and fans. No one has done a good adaption yet and it's criminal.
Jason Jones still works at Bungie.
What's left of it. He needs to drop Destiny.
@@DonRha I grew up playing the original trilogy too. While I agree with the things you said in the video, I just don't knw how to feel. Whether is be the black girl with the hair who's only the Chief of Staff or the guy who there who was ranting about having to work on a game that has guns in it, though idk what his position is in the company, yeah, that does warrant some worry, I just don't know how to feel.
I just want Halo to be good again, I want to be optimistic, but seeing all the raising concerns makes it harder to be optimistic.
Unreal Engine solves nothing it just lets Microsoft spend less on devs. Alo those devs don't look anything like gamers. Bungie were gamers.
100%
You don't remember when they showed off infinite ue5 is the smart move
In addition to all the spot on points you made. How about the high probability that they’re remaking Halo:CE now instead of oh, ya know, finishing the story from Infinite? Atriox? Who GAF. The Endless…nope. We’ll make Halo:CE but more better-er because 4K GrApHiCs nOw!
That alone is a show of this studio still not learning from their mistakes.
I don't even want remakes. I want them to prove they can make a good game with a good coherent story.
@@DonRha 100%. well when they launch their next game in 2030, we'll have to revisit this lol
Dei gaylo
Real, brother spittin facts.
Only thing these bushiness care about is CEI
Unreal Engine 5 solves resource management, resources are the problem. Imagining building a car in your garage, and you have to do it all from scratch. Machine every part of an engine, tune, and make the replacement parts from scratch. Or you just buy an engine, that’s probably better than your homemade one and is cheaper too.
Why make something from scratch, when some ones already done a better job, and they’ll let you use it. It’s not about graphics it’s about upkeep.
Now if Microsoft wants to put 300 million dollars into halo, it can be into halo itself, and not waste half of it developing all the technology behind the scenes.
People whining about this just want to whine. Video game fans can’t stfu about anything, like they’re in the trenches making games.
bungie was reskinned into 343 Industries, but Halo Studios is new
Couldn't be further from the truth. Studio head has been there 8 years and the majority are still 343 industries.
I'm lost... What does her LinkedIn profile have to do with whether she is or isn't a halo fan? Also "You think this thing goes home..." Fucking yikes dude.
@@moopuna Yeah... you are lost.
Halo Infinite does look like they were trying to be like Destiny. But then why didnt Bungie just make Halo into Destiny if thats what it ended up turning into?
They were trying to speed up the gameplay for competitive play on infinite. I'm not sure they were trying to take from destiny.
You’re the only one that said masterchief looks plastic lol, I kept saying the same thing haha the trilogy was beautiful and paired with the gameplay a masterpiece. (Reach Was cool too)
Ever since then even infinite looks like plastic and the armour is all rounded and weird looking even the classics.
Everyone praising these new graphics how did they not see the toy chief bro haha
And halo is owned by big tech and they gotta make back that 500mill so….
Not ideal
Yeah that's a good point they're definitely trying to recoup losses which could forced more rushed development
Changing to unreal makes it easier to make video games. Every game dev on the planet knows how to use it not a soul knew how to use the slip space engine
I'm a fan of UE5 I think it's great. Doesn't mean the game will be anything to write home about beyond performance advantages.
i cant lie that logo looks really good just my opinion
Bro I thought you were talking about mine for a second I was so happy 😅
Do know why they switch to unreal? It’s because the slip space engine held them back and made development a living hell. Plus it’s pretty buggy. Also you have to have 6 months of training in order to even work with the old engine and even then, the slip space engine still a nightmare to use. Plus the slip space engine is INCREDIBLY outdated
Too many women at 343
Not just the women. An entire amalgamation of idiots that couldn't care less about the interests of the fans.
Precisely
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Yeah a bunch of women are going to save halo? Lmao the halo games have been trash because the gameplay started sucking
I could make a case that if the story was better people would've accepted the multiplayer. They just have no sense of direction over there. The writing was abysmal.
@@DonRha man you are liking clearly mysogynistic comments. I wanted to submit to you but this is bad
From their explanation, using unreal is gonna speed things up a lot as apparently, unreal is pretty standard and easier to teach newer devs than the split gate engine. But that doesn't fix the fact the majority of the team are still clowns
From what I heard, none of the staff members of 343i came over. I keep reading it's an entirely new team
Almost impossible to convince a Bungie zealot that there are actually inspired devs in the team who want to make a good Halo. They live for the pessimism.
Also hello again, WigWoos, you hobkin stinker. 🫵
Bit entirely true, but mostly. Pierre, the new studio head isn’t new, however, he was the one in charge of bringing the MCC out of the grave, so I think he has a good track record compared to most of 343
They made a black gay women to seem inclusive 🙄 Like we want games not inclusion 😂
Wow a ❤
I am new to halo but halo can be a lot more if we can get a team that actually cares ❤
I’d agree that it has always looked good graphically but the art style has started to get fixed with the exception to the dog shit Hexagonal walls justified with the shitty excuse that the ring was falling apart. The only excitement I got from the rebrand trailer was that I didn’t see that shit. I saw an art style that I liked, but god forbid I say that because I feel like I’d jinx it.
I agree. I thought I was the only one that hated those stupid hexagons.
I feel like people too easily shrugged it off like it was okay that a designer said hey you know that Minecraft floating survival island look, yeah let’s go with that, oh and make it look alien with Hexagons.
This is overwatch 2
basically
I would go as far as Concord 😅
UE5 Does look nice, and that's definitely the easiest selling point a company can push. The main benefit of UE5 isn't just the pretty visuals, it's that it's one of the most powerful engines with a developed and efficient workflow. I'll give them one chance, I think Halo Infinite was a step in the right direction, it did feel like Halo, but it had a pathetic amount of content and too many failed promises.
Infinite's lack of content, and lack of fucks can be blamed on management leads, and the engine, both of which are gone. The one thing that can't change, however, Is Microsoft. I doubt the franchise will be allowed to suffer as much as it had in Infinites lifespan again, the entire gaming sphere shat on 343, no way that doesn't change things. But until this "new" studio can prove itself, most everyone will carry over their sentiment of 343
True
Unreal Engine solves a massive problem. It frees up a massive amount of resources for developers to focus only on the game, instead of having to wrestle with the development and maintenance of a failed engine. You don't know the entire roster of Halo Studios - you are just hating.
You're not tracking. Different topic being addressed. UE5 is great. Doesn't mean the games will be great.
@@DonRha If you were running a studio and you had half your staff tied up fucking around with an engine instead of making the game what would you do?
Based and real take, subscribed for that
Not a real one
All the woke shit is cancerous and NOT Halo, since when was the groundbreaking fps that everyone loved and loves about lgbt?
Exactly. Sexuality of any kind should not be the focal point of a shooter.
I choose to be optimistic about this. It's a fresh start. Let's wait and see what they produce before condemning them
That's the thing. It's not a fresh start.
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Video games are for babies
Nah they are not you don't want these people making your kid woke
Holy hell you got lots of stuff wrong in this video besides the DEI stuff
And ill gladly argue with you if you want me to
Halo was gone once they released reach. What a pile of shit.
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so first most of the devs are new solving the problem that the original 343 aka the ones who worked on h4 trough to the first year of infinite hired a TON of people that didint like didint know anything about or downright Hated halo meaning theres a chance the story will be better
also ue5 fixes long time for content updates since slipspace engine was a pain for them and we all know its trash its the reason for almost ALL of the bugs in infinite
wich helps even more when you realise that the game died mostly bc it had a shit ton of nothing for content and could not get in updates bc of the engine
never mind i gotta learn my lesson and stop commenting before i watch the hole thing he debunked my hole argument with the devs
😅 I mean UE5 is a good thing that's not what I was getting at and it sounds like you understand
Did you just see the pride flag a you immediately thought that halo is dead? Unlike you, I did a bit of digging into her and it looks promising enough. Also she hasn’t even helped make a halo game yet and you’re saying that halo is doomed all because of a pride flag. You need to chill out on the Hatorade
Look up "Sarcasm" in the dictionary. You sent me 3 essays (Not reading all that) talm bout hatoraaide 😅🤫
@@DonRha and you’re just proving my point. Don’t jump to conclusions if you haven’t done your homework. And you VERY clearly haven’t done your homework.
@@CraigDaBrute838 You not being able to comprehend what's being said is your own problem. You're ignorant and uneducated on the topic.
@@DonRha I DID RESEARCH ON THIS WHOLE THING!!! THE ONLY RESEARCH YOU DID WAS MELISSA BOONE’S PROFILE PICK AND JUST A BUNCH OF UNBACKED UP ASSUMPTIONS!!!
@@CraigDaBrute838 You need to calm down Craig.
I gained nothing from watching this :)