AoE2: Ranking Historical Logic in Unique Techs - Top 5
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Honorable Mentions: Great Wall (walls, towers HP), Stirrups (cavalry attack speed), Steppe Husbandry (lcav, steppe lancers, CA creation speed), Yasama (Tower arrows), Cuman Mercenaries (Kipchak in castle), Hussite Reforms (Monastery stuff costs food)
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There is a switcheroo mistake: I said that Hauberk provides more meele armor than pierce. Its actually the other way around in the game. However in reality a piece of mail was better at protecting against slashes (meele) than against piercing attacks
When combined with thick padding underneath, chainmail hauberks were actually really effective at protecting against bows of the time. There are first hand accounts of Muslims during the first crusade who watched hundreds of mailed knights walking towards their walls, completely invincible to their arrows. The bows of the Muslims were too weak to pierce both mail and padding: the arrowhead would go through the chainmail but then get stuck in the thick cloth underneath. The crusaders looked like pincushions, but even with dozens of arrows sticking in their armor they kept walking forward! It was a terrifying sight for the defenders.
i was just about to comment that
"While many nations grow wine, being snobby about it was invented by the French"
It will never be possible to write a more accurate sentence about the French!
Back in 2000, AOE was my main source of history knowledge. 20 years later this still seems to be the case.
I hope you forgive when I say that AoE is not always the best history teacher;) But the most fun one
i noticed that the AOE2 DE has no longer the historical encyclopedia. I feel betrayed ... :(
@@rumpelpumpel7687 It is still there. click on the clogwheel under options
@@armchairsaurus yaaay :D thank you sooo much for the tip!! they really hid it very well there xD
Yeah, AoE II got me interested in the Aztecs for the first time. (My reaction then: "Huh? No stables? Hmm, nice music.")
An interesting fact about "evolution" of Fabric Shields tech in AoE 2. At first, the technology was called "Couriers" and increased movement speed of Eagle Warriors. Later, the tech effect was changed to current increase of armor, but the name "Couriers" remained. Then I guess developers realized that having couriers would hardly increase armor of warriors, and finally renamed it "Fabric Shields".
a very constructive evoltuion. The name change shows that the developers care to name the techs in a meaningful way. If they change Kataparuot to Hoseki, that would be nice
@@armchairsaurus Another good one would be changing name of "El Dorado" to "Ritual Scarification", that would imho make more sence - first, Mayan warriors really performed ritual scarification, and second, bonus HP would be justified (their Eagle Warriors are now more resistant to pain, therefore endure more in combat)
I really appreciate your using of AoE I music in the background of these videos. I know it’s not as well-loved as AoE II, but it was my first video game ever, and I still love it 😁
Its nice people recognise that it is AoE2
RoR had one of the best soundtracks of a game, ever, in my opinion.
As a medieval historian, and AOE fan for nearly 2 decades now, awesome video.
Love the gameplay scenes in the background. Its like they are telling a story!
5:14 Honestly, did not expect 3rd to be it.
Great video, both. Hope to see more from you!
some Honorable mentions in my opinion: Cuman Mercanaries, Great Wall, Greek Fire, Berzerkergang. although i must say, Byzantine Catphracts did also make use of Hauberks, so idk if thats necesarily unique
I was also thinking about the War Wolf tech for the Britons
I lusted Cuman mercenaries and Grea wall as HM in the comments. I Kind if disagree with Berserkergang. Nordic people are normal people:) they have no secret healing powers
@@MantisAoECivilisationConcepts that one is definitely accurate. One of its fallback in my oppinion though is that War Wolf doesnt refer to a technology or an innovation, but rather to a single particular treb. So War Wolf is rather a name for a Hero Treb, than for a technology. Thats the reason why it isnt ranked super high
@@armchairsaurus Berserkers are also something very limited in terms of historical documentation, most information comes from sagas written centuries after the Viking Age by Christians, and are in most regards a fantasy. No berserkers during the Middle Ages anyways. True historical late Bronze Age/Iron Age berserkers are most likely tied to the Indo-European traditions of old for young boys becoming men to wear animal, and particulary wolf pelts, and surviving in the wild for some time within youth warrior warbands. It's not even a Germanic specific thing, you had this in Italy too. But it survived most lately in Northern Germanic areas.
@@armchairsaurus That makes a lot of sense!
Aztecs and Inca: hi fiving each other for having historically accurate and unique techs
Mayans: :(
yep its interesting how 2/3 american civ are excellent in that regard and the 3rd bottom of the list
I can at least appreciate the accuracy of Aztec and Inca techs as an ancient latin american nerd myself. Especially the Inca fabric shields, they used to make armor from llama wool that was soaked in salt water then dried, also of course their incredible fabrics and textiles.
@@weepingbones_2 Oh I didnt know that! sounds like a clever way of making fabric really sturdy
I do quite enjoy these and look forward to seeing more in the future, hopefully!
I prefer that the fabric shield is just called that. It keeps the history lesson front and centre while making the game easier to understand and talk about for non historians.
Ach, jetzt bekomme ich erst mit, dass dies tatsächlich Heinz Harald Frenzen Kanal ist. Cool!
Und noch AOE, eine unschlagbare Kombination.
Just some corrections and specifications, the Medieval Inquistion was nowhere near as brutal as people today think and the majority of tortures and executions intensified during the Renaissance as a reaction to Protestantism - in fact, the Catholic Church officialy denied that witches even exist during the middle ages. However, the Spanish Inquisition was created in the second half of 15th century, which some already consider as being in the Renaissance. It's also only some 70 years before the last scenario of AoE2, but you can research it in Castle Age.
This subject (the relationship between history and history "inspired" games) is very dear to me. It was such games that got me into history in the first place all the way back in the 90's. So, while I reckon there's a competitive scene in the aoe2 community going on - which I'm thankful for, bc it keeps the game alive, relevant and with new dlc availabe, I myself am really into the historicalnaspects of the game and its campaigns, etc. So I'm mostly interested in the topoc presented in this video, as well as reenacting and studying. For this reason, I really value this channel's approach and I wish it had more views and interest. Hopefully it will keep making videos and, perhaps, grow to rival SoTL in this game topic, but instead of focusing in its mechanics, stay true to the history behind the game.
very glad to hear, that this type of content hits some peoples nerves right:) yes, i continue. Just had a bit of a summer break
Atlatl was one of my favorite unique techs cause it makes skirmishers an actually good unit in the late game.
You should look at unique units next. I really wonder if Khmer put ballista on elephants 11
Its not the highest priority but an idea for next next next video
Jaguar Warriors would be accurate for aztecs
@@armchairsaurus I feel so happy with my comment right now
@@kartiksaraf4676 Riiiiight! Thanks for the push 10 months ago hahaha
Yes, they did. It was pretty much their signature thing.
Keep making content like this and you'll soon become my favorite channel on RUclips
thanks for encouraging!
Another great video mate! Loved it and I'm hyped for the next one! :)
Warum stehe ich so auf jede Form von AOE 2 content. Danke das du für mich und die zwei anderen den Aufwand treibst ;)
Great video! One thing, I might be mistaken but , as I understand it the Inquisition was not about converting Non Christians, it was to check on whether who have converted were genuine.
From what Ive read, the tribunals targeted mostly non Christians. But what you described certainly was also one of the intentions
@@armchairsaurus yeah seems there is mixed opinions on the intention. Some say it was mostly to police converters others say it is for general conversation. From what I understand the Spanish inquisition lived on in some form to the 1830s so priorities might have changed as time went on.
@@TheSteve285 indeed. it was going on for around 4 centuries!!è whcih of course makes it hard to generalize intentions
Very interesting! I would definitely watch more of these
And the Romans got vine cuttings from Greece, whom sourced it through Anatolia because v. vinifera originated south of the caucasus mountain range. Each culture had their own wine making trends, often influenced by their environment and terrain. Roman soldiers retiring in Gaul would have been the first to plant large organized vineyards in that area. It is wild how far back this practice dates.
I feel like an old ass Roman dude who's seen some shit would have been pretty uptight about his wine.
haha I liked your sense of humor 😅 you have a new fan and a subscriber Sir.
awesome! welcome
Another great video, can't wait for more
I burst out laughing at the Correctus LMAOOO
Thank you for this informative video. As an AoE UltraMegaFan i enjoyed it a lot!
Wow this is good stuffs! Very well done!
I think Hussite reforms should have been on the list. They are a real unique medieval invention, they actually come from medieval Bohemia, so are accurate for the civilisation and their effect is changing monastery techs and unit cost from gold to food. Hus was criticising the greed of the Church and Hussites actually raised an army containing many priests abstaining from wealth such as Zelivsky. Increasing power of monks and faith of the people with food and not gold is very accurate.
Its a honorable mention
Found your channel a week ago and now here I am, was wondering where did you went
Hope you upload more videos :D
The Norman kyte Shield provides good pierce armour, the chainmail provides superb slashing/melee armour.
I have seen a video showing just how effectively Atl-Atl darts/Javelins can pierce both leather and chainmail armour. Scale mail grants more resistance an plate blocks/deflects it.
Another great vid, nice work man
I mean atlatls existed for at least 10,000 years before the Aztecs. I have quite a few from the ice age period in my collection.
true. Thats why I went a long way to try to justify why I still think spear-throwers nevertheless are a good fit for an aztect unique techs.
Keep on making these videos!
That transition to Number 3 was smooth as fuck.
Burgundy then: "I will be a financial rival to the French while developing improvements in winery."
Burgundy now: "For fuck's sake, we aren't a secret Nazi Successor state-we don't even exist independently now!"
Great content, subscribed! Next you should rank unique units in historical sense. I imagine war wagon and Mameluke might make bottom 5
Oh yes they definitely would be scratching the bottom
Good video except for the same old over emphasis on torture in the inquisition which was actually very rare and usually carried out by secular authorities not the inquisition but anyway, other candidates for realistic UTs i think would be Pavaise for Italians, artillery for Turks, warwolf and yeomen for Britons. Think your top 5 is still right though
I'm aware that torture was the exception in inquisition. Thats why I said "Trials and *sometimes* torture". But I admit that from looking at the pictures, torture seems over-emphasized. But what should I do? Show 5 pictures of courtrooms?;)
Right. Artillery for Turks is really good. With Pavaise I have the issue that it gives as much meele armor as pierce. But the intention of a Pavaise was almost purely protection against other ranged threats
Please keep these type of videos coming.
I'm loving your videos
Another wonderful video! Thanks and hope to see more.
The first spot shows once again: culture eats strategy
thanks for watching, Mr. Floigenkaspar
Honestly I didn't expect the number three
then my mission is accomplished
Need to drop more of these videos
Your videos are vary well done. I have been wanting to do something similar on the thumb ring. Thanks for some ideas and inspiration. Also if you want to discuss anything I am all for it
Funny, I was actually reading a bit into thumb ring yesterday cause I also want to feature it in a next video. I find the increased firing rate very fitting but the increased accuracy not really. What is your take?
@@armchairsaurus well as you know some of the techs can be pertly funny and the facts on the more so. "The typical archer of the Middle Ages drew the bowstring back to his chest to fire. English longbowmen had the ability to draw back to their cheek, increasing the power and distance of their shots. Archers from Asia developed a thumb ring that made it possible to draw back to their ear or beyond. When this improvement was added to their already very powerful composite bows, their weapons proved quite effective". this is the history on thumb ring in the extra info. the 2 things it got right where it was made in asia and the english longbow men drew there bow to there cheek.
But every one with long bows did this the english just had more people skilled at it. and the goal was to draw do near your ear. Now from what i can tell and being a archer my self is the thumb ring is simpler to a finger grad the long bow men in the west used. it allowed you to fire more shots so friction would not burn as much and the string would not bite. there technique was to thumb draw the English used three finger draw. both work well and one is not real better then the other. so in some ways yes it lets you fire faster. The accuracy could come from not wearing out and chafing your thumb maybe but it's a stretch. The drawing to the ear is complete bogges no magic ring let's you pull back a bow more.
under the logic of a thumb ring letting you fire faster and more accurate then bracer should have the same effect because they did sort of the same thing. but bracer protected your arm from the strings snap. one of the biggest problems is both braces and thumb rings do nothing for crossbows arbalests or javelin.
Also how the thumb ring is drawn is really wrong
10:34 I understood that reference!
Spain civ rework NB
Kingdom of Aragon
Early Medieval Civ
Knight+monk civ
Crusader (Kite shield+Nasal helm + chainmail) sword and spear infantry,Knights,crossbows, monk, (Reconquista) focus.(Rams + Trebs + siege tower)
With a blend of Moorish + Christian European crusader unit skins.
Castelio de Lorca
Castelio de la Mota
UU castle : Unctioned Knight: Same stats as a cavalier/regular and Paladin/elite but it gains + 2 attack when in the vicinity of a Monk/Missionary.
UU Monastery: Missionary (Shared with Castile) Brilliant to use in tandem with Unctioned Knights, to heal them and provide an attack boost. (And to convert enemies)
UT1: Inquisition (Monks convert faster)
UT2:Men of Asturias/The Order of Calatrava - Knight line gain a slight cost increase but they + Unctioned Knight have an increase in HP as well as +1 melee armour.
Civ bonus1:Can create SW/siege tower in feudal age + siege towers are cheaper.
Civ bonus2: Builders work 30% faster.
Civ bonus3: Blacksmith upgrades don't cost gold.
Civ bonus4: Infantry + crossbows exiting a siege tower gain a +1 attack buff for 60 seconds.
Team Bonus: Trade units generate +25% gold.
Barracks:
Champion - Crusader skin : Nasal helm, Kite shield + sword
Halb - Crusader skin : Nasal helm, Kite shield + Spear
Stable
Paladin
Hussar (Berber allies skin)
AR
Crossbow (With Bracer)
CA
Elite skirm (Berber Allies skin)
SW
Siege Tower (From feudal age)
Siege ram
Mangonel
Monastery:
Monk
Missionary
Dock:
Galion
Fast Fire
Heavy demo
No cannon galleon
Full Blacksmith
University:
Lacks BBT
Lacks treadmill crane
Woner: Torre Del Oro
Kingdom of Castile.
Late Medieval civ
Naval,gunpowder,Pike civ
With a focus on Conquistadors, cannon galleons, gunboats, halbs and hand cannon. (Pike and shot) (BBC,BBT) 15th century Sword infantry (Plate armour) Exclusively European skins such as the skins in DE3 Spain.
Castelio de Bellver
Castelio de Peñafiel.
UU:Conquistador
UU dock: Gunboat - small single cannon/gun Boat. Somewhat expensive, but powerful boat good at blasting ships from a medium distance. Fire rate and damage between A galleon and cannon galleon , Brilliant for targeting demolition ships , only slightly stronger than galleon anti building damage.
Less HP than a galleon but also slightly faster.
UU Monastery: Missionary (Shared with Aragon)
Castle age Barracks UU Rodelero: Fast-moving sword and buckler infantry Good for countering gunpowder units + pike men + siege + monks. Weak vs Cav, archers,Skirmishers, defensive buildings, sword line.
UT1:Spanish Treasure fleets - Gold brought back from the new world help to pay for new Gallions: Gallions gold cost removed.
UT2: Tercios (Pike and shot): Pikemen in the vicinity of hand cannoneers gain + 2 attack
Civ bonus 1:Age up to Castle age is cheaper.
Civ bonus 2: Gunpowder units fire 18% faster.
Civ bonus3:Cannon Galleons benefit from Ballistics (fire faster, more accurately).
Civ bonus 4:Gain access to Rodelero,Gunboat and Garrochistas
Civ bonus 5: BBT are built faster.
Team Bonus:Grants Cannon galleon to allies whom do not have it.
(Mezzo canoe allies) And grants faster moving cannon galleons to allies whom do have access to them.
Barracks:
Champion Caudillo
Halb - Good against cavalry and buildings. (slight Extra building damage)
Castle age UU Rodelero: Fast-moving sword and buckler rapier infantry Good for countering gunpowder units. Upgrades to Espadachins
Rodelero deal less damage against infantry and buildings compared to the champion but its high speed and resistance to gunpowder makes them good vs siege and gunpowder , weak vs cavalry,archers, average vs infantry similar to long swordsmen and when upgraded to Espadachins they are similar to two handed swordsmen. Weak anti building damage compared to the champion even with arson.
Agile swordsmen with a buckler could better evade the deadly iron of densely packed pikes and could take formations apart from the inside. Thus they are strong vs spear line but are quite weak against skirms.
Stable
Knight - Garrochistas Spanish lancer (Similar to Cavalier) Very weak to conversions. Slightly stronger vs spear line than a cavalier but much weaker to camel units than a cavalier. .
Light cav
AR
Hand cannoneer
Crossbow men (Lacks bracer)
Elite skirm (Messo allies skin)
SW
BBC
ram
mangonel
Monastery:
Monk
Missionary
Dock:
UU: Gunboat - small single cannon/gun Boat. Somewhat expensive, but powerful boat good at blasting ships from a medium distance. Fire rate and damage between A galleon and cannon galleon , Brilliant for targeting demolition ships , only slightly stronger than galleon anti building damage.
Lacks heavy demo
Lacks Fast fire ship
Blacksmith
Lacks bracer
Lacks plate boarding armour
University:
Lacks Heated Shot
Lacks Siege Engineers
No Sappers
Wonder:Alcázar de Segovia
Or
Cathedral of Seville
good video! next do unique techs ranked by how average their historical accuracy is!
Beside the "critics" on the spanish Inquisition which I support, I wanted to add a little detail: In your burgundy history of wine you are naming Celts, Romans and the Church as administrators of wine culture. In Fact it has to be "Romans, Celts and the Church", because the Romans brought the vine culture with them to gaul after invading it. There were wild vines in gaul and even before the invasion celtic elites imported hughe amounts of roman wine but vines weren't cultivated by the celtic tribes themselves. Just around the first or second century A.D. roman-celtic people started producing wine in gaul. But beside this little mistakes I really enjoyed watching your video :)
Thanks for the input. The order of enumeration was chosen deliberately as I read on some webpages about Burgundian vine culture that the celts did it before under roman influence. But I'm not insisting that my sources are more reliable than yours (probably they are not). Whats your background?
@@armchairsaurusI studied history at the University of Trier and worked on alcohol and wine in the antics. There is a flow of technology from the mediterraneans to the south of france (which was for 100 years earlier a province than the rest of gaul) and over the centurys the production and cultivation of wine developed north.
Hey, nice to see your follow-up to the previous video, mate. You will have 10k subs by the end of the year.
I highly doubt. However....if even the Arizona Business League has caught onto it maybe there is hope;)
Surprised El Dorado wasn’t #1
i love this vids so much
thanks a lot:)
Amazing! This video made my day.
a side note for Burgundy it was more like the Duchy of Burgundy which involved the Netherlands and Belgium
there was also a kingdom of burgundy but i dont think its about that one
I think its both. The reference to the vinyards speaks for the kingdom of Burgundy. Flemish revolution for the Dutch and Belgian posessions
If Great Wall would let walls have same LOS as outposts it would be perfect
Also I like the fact that compare to number of views, we have so many comments and up votes, that;s how awsome is this community
Good job man keep going
Absolutely. The community is super interactive
Great video series. I hope you get enough view for your high quality content.
Ah yes. The greatest technology of all is French snobbery.
please please please drop that general tech tree video. I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT STONE SHAFT MINING AND WHY IT IS RIDICULOUS
very soon the first general tech tree video will be out. But its going to cover the military buildings only. Economy will come later
@@armchairsaurus can't wait!
"El dorado Nightclub" 😆
yeeeeeeah finally someone picked it up! Im so glad. Never know if anyone notices the hidden jokes
do thumb ring
Funny, I was actually reading a bit into thumb ring yesterday cause I also want to feature it in a next video. I find the increased firing rate very fitting but the increased accuracy not really.
But judging from your name, you are the expert. So please let me know how you would rate thumb ring!
@@armchairsaurus the fire rate has some truth because you shot from the other side. It also increases your pull length so you get more power and a slightly faster release. The main disadvantage in my opinion is it’s less accurate than Mediterranean draw (as proven by modern Olympic archery) and relies on one digit so if the thumb is injured you gotta switch to another technique. Ironically though the fastest release is not thumb but we have limited historical evidence
@@HistoricalWeapons Thanks for explaining. This lead to me googling about bow drawing styles and learning more about it. I guess one need to decide whether to compare thumb draw with mediterranean draw or to compare thumb draw with and without thumb ring (as the name of the tech is Thumb Ring - not Thumb Draw).
At this occasion may I ask you some more questions that are still unclear to me: Why do Mediterranean and Thumb/Mongolian draw have arrows on different sides?
And is it correct to state that with the thumb draw, the arrow was usually pulled further back next to the ear? Or does the increased pull length just come from the string resting further back in the hand?
I will be checking out your channel very soon! Looks super interesting
@@armchairsaurus hi there med and thumb can be done on both sides but there is an optimized side for specific task. med draw on left side is optimized for accuracy used by modern archers today for olymp and bowhunting, right side for speed shooters, and thumb draw is the opposite mainly cuz the way your fingers is torquing the arrow will make it move off the shelf. thumb has long pull back cuz the way your hand is, check it out yourself with a ruler, about 1.5 inch difference gap between thumb and fingers. where it is pulledback depends on cultures and theres lots to explain, prehaps ill make some beginner videos in future, thanks for watching
@@HistoricalWeapons all clear now! thanks again. In the meantime i checked out some videos of yours - so now its super clear. Great content on your side!
Maille hauberk was not exclusive to the Norman's though. Maille shirts have been used in one way or the other by several cultures throughout history for hundreds of years before the Normans
Yep, thats why I showed a banner on screen saying exactly that
@@armchairsaurus ah didn't see that. I listen to these vos while cooking. Nice
I was wondering if you'd be interested in reviewing the historical accuracy for unique techs I've come up with for hypothetical civilizations that I've also come up with.
Hi Apocalypso, probably not reviewing in form of a video but I can comment them if you share
@@armchairsaurus All right, I can do that. One moment.
@@armchairsaurus Here are the unique technologies I came up with for a hypothetical Caucasus expansion I'm conceptualizing on the wiki. Keep in mind that I'm just as much of a stickler for historical accuracy as you are, so the choices for effects are not nearly as arbitrary as ones in the actual game.
Alans
*War Dogs:* Allows creation of the Alaunt from the Town Center. Stable units +2 attack vs other cavalry. (The Alaunt is a secondary unique unit for the Alans, not their main one, just FYI.)
*Right Alan Guard:* Team Stable units cost -25%.
Armenians
*Baptism:* Baptisteries +2 heal range. (The Baptistery is a unique building for the Armenians and their allies, healing all friendly biological units within an 8-tile radius.)
*Nakharar:* Removes the minimum range for Scorpions and Trebuchets.
Georgians
*Svan Towers:* Towers cost -50%.
*Aznauri:* Swordsman line +30 HP.
Khazars
*Pax Khazarica:* Team trade units +30 HP.
*Khagan Bek:* Archery Ranges work 100% faster.
I just want to say that Nakharar may seem arbitrary, but there is actually a justification behind its effect. I want to see if you find it.
I look forward to your feedback!
@@Apocalypso64
wow you really dug deep. Very specific choices (most of which I have never heard of I have to admit - so I googled much). My thoughts:
War Dogs: Nice and fittig choice. But why the +2 for stable units? Where the Alaunts used against cavalry primarily?
Right Alan Guard: Also definitely "right civ". I like that it affects the team, to reflect that the Alan Cavalry was recruited by multiple other tribes. The effect is also fine I would say. Could also be a reduction on creation time (which would also be easier to balance)
Baptism: Nice fit overall. Can't nag:)
Nakharar: This one I dont understand. N is a title for nobility. How does it affect siege? Maybe its my lack of research but I dont see the connection
Svan towers: Right civ, Right Unit/building, Plausible Effect. 5 Stars:)
Aznauri: Of course it requires some abstraction to get from a nobility title to +HP but there are similar examples in the game so I think its fine. Right civ obviously, as all of them.
Pax Khazarica: Very creative. More HP on trade a s a symbol for stable trade is a great interpretation. I would say also 5/5. But definitely would need a buff game balance wise;)
Khagan Bek: So the idea is that the Bek is accellerating recruitment due to inspiration/drill? Understandable but a bit of a far fetch in my opinion:)
@@armchairsaurus War Dogs originally only unlocked the Alaunt, which I thought was a bit of a weak effect, so I added +2 damage vs cavalry for Stable units. The idea is that there is an unseen war dog fighting alongside a cavalry unit. Maybe it could've been vs infantry, but the Alaunt already has that, so it would be redundant.
Nakharar is a little more confusing, so I understand why you thought it was random. Nakharars in medieval times had the responsibility to raise their own armies, and some of the people included in these armies were mountaineers trained to roll rocks onto enemy troops from high places. Trebuchets attacking units at point blank range looks a little comical, but it's meant to reference that. Scorpions were included because I felt that Siege Onagers with no minimum range were too powerful, especially since the Armenians have a bonus where friendly units only take half damage from the Mangonel line.
Khagan Bek is definitely a bit more of an arbitrary decision, but I wanted the Khazars to have a Goth-like production speed for archers, so that's why. And yeah, it could be justified as the Khagan Bek system of government efficiently recruiting military.
Okay so we have looked at unique techs. What about the unique units?
piece by piece
"cherry on top of the cake" is such a German expression lol, we use it too in Holland
My origin has been unmasked😨
Lmao we use it in American English too, though we omit the "of the cake part".
@@armchairsaurus Idk mate, "Heinz Harald Frentzen" might've been a dead giveaway already.
Next video when?
Dont know yet:)
@@armchairsaurus ha ha ok. I'll press the bell then, so that I know.
@@shalcho This is a very elegant solution;)
What better lens to peer through history than with humor. Great production!
Great videos! Subscribed
Quality content
Finally some HHF content!
Why not Corvinian Army, from the Magyars?
Why should a mercenary army be associated with not-costing gold. Wouldn't the opposite (only costing gold) not more fitting?
I like the 2nd video better in my opinion 😊aber beide sind toll 🙌🙌
How did you land upon the name for your channel?
long story. started with a road trip with my brother
@@armchairsaurus HHF was the pilot I used in the first F1 game I played. Did you get to see him live with your brother?
@@SuperJJAlexander No it was more of a running gag we developed becaufe of the catchy name
oh yeah
imagine mining through dozens of meters of stone just to reach some stone to mine
Muito bom! 😂
obrigadu
@@armchairsaurus vc é brasileiro?? 😮
@@gherlwinfireson8582 haha no but its the only portuguese word i know
@@armchairsaurus Oh! I thought because the right spelling is “obrigado”, the way you said is a cute version, very Brazilian xD
@@gherlwinfireson8582 lucky accident;)
No warwolf?
Effect and Civ are matching. But Warwolf is a single particular Treb. Not a technology. So thats why I'm reasoning that it is not in the top 10
Thanks for the video!
The Hungarian/Magyar unique techs are pretty on point too, although we didn't invent the recurve bow, our ancestors used it to great effect.
However I don't have kind words about the way we were depicted in the last mission of the Mongolian campaign.
Walls? What walls? :D
Fabric Shields/Hualcana certainly make more sense for the bonuses than Couriers did, but I find it a pity that the Inca don't get their chasquis and quipu represented in game.
(also I like to imagine that you are the real Heinz-Harald Frentzen)
like your videos man!
@HHF for techs that don't make sense, can you give examples of something that would make sense for the same effect? Devs need to introduce the techs to balance the game.
In the comment section of the Bottom 5 video are many good suggestions from viewers. Check that one out. One example. Instead of "Kataparuto" a very fitting name would be "Hoseki" gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2019/05/hoseki-japanese-catapult.html
2:26 " in game hauberk provides more melee armor than pierce armor" ??? in game it gives 1 meelee and 2 pierce.
please see pinned comment
You got the inquisition wrong. The inquisition had no jurisdiction over non-Christian, unless they were spreading 'heresy' among Christians. The targets of the Inquisition were those who professed Christianity but who held 'erroneous' beliefs. You fell victim to the 'black legend' of the Spanish Inquisition, I'm afraid.
Geiasu Dimitrios, I object! While you are right that the main target were heretics, the spanish inquisition did in fact also target conversion of jews and muslims.
-The Alhambra decree of 1492 forced jews in Spain to either be baptized or be exiled
-in Castilia (1502) and later Argon (1524) Muslims were as well faced with the same forced baptism
@@armchairsaurus Those were royal decrees. Those who remained after 1492 were considered by the king to have converted, and thus Christians.
The purpose of the Inquisition was to sift out alleged crypto-Judaism among nominal Christians. But never Jews. The story of 'Jews chased by the Inquisition' are fanciful.
@@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 Ok, but in any case the point prevails, that faster conversion is a fitting effect, doesn't it? after all in the game you can also convert christians to christianity (a frank monk can convert an italian unit). So the conversion in game must not target other religions in order to be one
say win-yard one more time mofo. 11 nice wideo though
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Very nice one! Burgundian red wine still ranks amongst the best in France nowadays. Their white wine on the other hand cannot race along Alsatian white wines in my opinion! They are way too mineral and dry.
By the way, speaking of medieval wine economy, bottles of Alsatian white wine has been archeologically found in Russia, dating from the 15th century! The wine market of the medieval times were one of the most far reaching and well established. Burgundian wines saw similar diffusion, and the Bordeaux as well thanks to the English in Aquitaine. How ironic!
I love how you always have some more in depth knowledge. Especially when it come to the french aspects;) But yeah it is really impressive how interconnected economies were long before industrialization!
I dont know why, but feel like your video before ( about non sense unique tech) is better than this, something is missing.
Did you have plan, to make video about all civz?
If you can pinpoint what is missing, maybe I can improve next time. Maybe because it is more entertaining to mock sth, than to praise sth? I personally find the 2nd one has a higher quality of production.
Mesoamerican atlatl was deadly AF. Leather and mail? Pathetic; according to the spanish sources it could pierce through steel cuirasses (definitely a rare thing, but probably possible)
Perhaps possible. I was just not finding any reliable sources
@@armchairsaurus I think Bernal Diaz and anonymous conquistador talk about this, but it definitely is in one of the journals. They are pretty hard to find though; the video is still very well made and researched.
@@ahmicqui9396 Many thanks for the accounts and the compliments!
Woah! I didn't expect "THAT"
Well done
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@@armchairsaurus I think you mean explain?
I agree with everything you said and especially liked the 1st place, because it's really something you don't think about, but burgundy is actually really famous for it's vineyards.
@@dimitriosdrossidis9633 Thanks but thats actually not what i meant. I meant to write "Ευχαριστώ". Which is greek and means "Thank you". I assumed that you are greek because of your name
For the worst techs, another criterion could have been if, in the context of the middle ages, it is even a technology. For example, "catapult" isn't a technology in an era where you already have mangonels and trabuchets, and neither is "El Dorado"
Well then you will be overjoyed with my other video, where I adressed exactly that. Check out the bottom 5 video linked in the description
@@armchairsaurus I watched that, which is why I'm saying that "Is it a technology?" could have been another official criterion for the list
@@iwersonsch5131 Ah ok Now I get it. It was kind of an "unwritten" criterion. I didnt check it each time but if the name of the tech doesnt refer to a technology (you already pointed out the examples) I listed it in the bullet points
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