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Yay, I saw two photos of my camp! Since nobody asked, here's my big house build advice. Tip 1: Lights! When I did my build I mentally budgeted two lights per room, one per closet/bathroom. Do not use dim lights at all. Use lights that shine over a large area. I actually strung up wires in my build just to get those powerful hanging color changing bulbs in there. Tip 2: Merges! Great for saving space and showing how good of a builder you are. But we're not trying to save space, we gotta fill the giant space! Do little to no merges. Tip 3: Place large items. If it's smaller than a stein, don't waste the budget on it. Have a small brewing station and a large one? Place the large one. You want to fill up the dang space. Tip 4: Place anywhere walls (search youtube if you don't know what those are) with the barn wall can fit in your house. At least they can with the non-snowy house. You can add walls/wallpaper on interior walls, but not on prefab walls with windows. It makes a difference. (See my video if you don't believe me) Tip 5. Make every room feel different from the rest. Combine carpets and different wallpapers, and lighting. I did blue/yellow room, red/black romantic, dingy rust/mold rooms, ect. I worked to make each room unique.
I have to agree with Oskapt. It feels very seasonal. It would make sense if there were a part of the map that was snowy/seasonal oriented like the Halloween stuff. I skipped out on this one but I wouldn’t object to maybe another snowy/christmas prefab. Again though, it would probably only be used then.
this very much, I would absolutely love to place a camp in some sort of snowy region and combine it with the snowy aurora weather would be the perfect like, holiday getaway
Another bug that may drive you slightly insane is the first floor. The whole floor is bugged and everything floats about 2 inches in the air. It bothered me so much that I covered the whole floor with slightly raised catwalks to fill the gap. Also the handrails on the left corner of the front porch are missing collision so you pass right through them. And the interior wall on the first floor by the stairs also has no collision which is why your items got swallowed
I am currently at work. I see the trouble that you went through as did I like when trying to make the kitchen area, putting things on the wall with glitch and one such thing would appear through the back end of the wall, and when I went outside, I saw it sticking through giving me an irritated sensation Once I return home from work, I will watch this video and post in the discord my end result Though if you wish to see arrive, come up with as I go along, I believe you are on PC as well and I invite you to come see for yourself if you so choose
While I understand the sentiment of being too seasonal, having a retreat like this is actually comforting compared to the bland weather of the rest of the wasteland. Also when it comes to the aurora and the snow, it reminds me a lot of silent hill. The mood lighting, the eerie music, those combined make the snow feel more like falling ash which in a nuclear winter actually makes sense. So I am enjoying this and will just take down xmas decorations post season but i will be staying in this home with said weather. Afterall I found my own tricks to making shelves and counters for a kitchen that put most prefab shop items to shame :P
You did an amazing job working around Bethesda’s bugs and omissions! Another great build! I find it offensive that they ask for atoms for these things. They keep slapping us in the face and expecting us to thank them.
@ I don’t buy anything anymore until you guys post, and I go through the comment section. Your guys’ channel and community you’ve built are really great.
Hey folks, here's a tip for placing things on wall in prefabs that don't cooperate. What i do is go to the defenses tab and go to any item that snaps to floor (railings ect..) and turn snapping OFF, then go back to the wall décor, and voila! no more issues, except if you're to close to the wall. Don't forget to go back and turn snapping back on again. And you don't need to do this in shelters though because there always an option to turn snapping off in those. 🎅
Love your videos. Bought and was able to decorate it pretty fast. I put the icicle lights on the outside under the icicles. Hurt the light budget, but it is very beautiful.
Oh, I really wanted to do that, but knew I would run out of light budget. Now that I have new Christmas trees and ultracite crystals for extra lights, I will try redecorating with blue icicles.
I'm probably not going to bite on this prefab...tho you did a fabulous job decorating and make it tempting👍😍. I have the Woodland retreat which I've enjoyed decorating and tweaking. Ended up moving the workbenches into an attached shelter, but Bravo to your incorporating them into the home!
Would love to see you do the big green enclave armory in the enclave mega bundle. Looks huge and wide open. Or a sweet raider build as both got mega bundles
I was surprised to find the hungry wall and items snapping into the next floor or on top of structures but, this was worth it to me. I'm a sucker for holiday themed items and especially winter/Christmas themed ones. It's always going to be my favorite time of year
I love it, it was purchased for the look and challenge of decorating. I managed to get it in the ground with just a small corner of the slab at the entrance off the ground. I was able to hide the visible space with 2 ground plants. My only regret is not placing the camp 10 feet closer to the edge of the lake. Actually surprised at being able to get it that far into the ground with the slope. When I get catwalks I might be able to sink a stone floor underneath the stairs slab. Has nobody noticed the vanishing window? Look from the porch into the house and see everything but go around the wall and the window disappears and is covered by wallpaper. I tend to buy things knowing it might be glitched and can I live with it untill its fixed or not. I held faith in the stone oven and finally it was fixed this update. See y'all live on Tuesday for the next update.
I bought this prefab and have been decorating it with everything i can find. As for the shooting up a floor when placed ive noticed atleast on my end that it usually happens when theres a carpet above where you want to put whatever it is down. I personally like how seasonal it is, gives me another way to decorate for the hollidays.
With stuff shooting up to the floor above, I found that it's an issue with having objects placed on the floor above first. If you build from the bottom up, there won't be any carpet or surfaces above for the items to clip to. I had it happen to me in the Woodland Retreat when I tried moving some objects around after I'd finished decorating. So I guess build order matters here, too!
id love a remake of the winter retreat with no snow or icicles on it. the design is great, i love the rooms and outline, but i share ozcap's concern about it only being usable 3 month per year. they could call it the Year round retreat
I got this immediately, the house itself, not the bundle, because I'm a sucker for pre-fabs like this. I plopped it down in the shelter that is a neighborhood? Can't remember the name. Not the city block but the cul-de-sac neighborhood. It fits in nicely. Some tricks with the kitchen cabinets is to build them on walls outside, blueprint it, then place the blueprint inside. This worked great with the woodland retreat so should work well here too. I haven't tried yet but will be my first method.
And here I make my fallout 76 life decisions by watching you guys spend atoms! I will give this a miss even though I love this prefab. I already have that woodland retreat to deal with
The blue icicle lights look good put along the prefab ones. I put some all around and it looks cute. Placed near Grafton station since it has a lot of white around, kind of reminding me of nuclear winter type vibe. The weather station really makes this look amazing! I just need more holiday decor now
i foudn alot of prefabs have the bug where even if they remove trees, the trees will respawn inside the prefab making it rather annoying, also we the players are the QA team
I’m new to the game and have stopped playing since maybe November or October, but I am level 62 and I just bought this structure and I love it, already trying to reset my base and camp for both me and travelers to gather free supplies (whatever I can output) for 700 atoms, the size, Space, and Cost were definitely worth it to me, I just unlocked Bullion too so I can now spend my gold on Stat boosts or resources, I did want to grab the Black Friday bundle for 1980 but was short about 200 atoms and I wasn’t gonna grind 200 atoms in under 12 hrs at midnight (it had a lot…like 2-3 pre builds and some cool resources…tree sap,fetchtron,Acid waste) but I am happy with my house and new camp/base idea
Great review as always. I ran across the same issue with a number of wall mounted items as well. How can something not have support when clearly there's a wall there? Its just frustrating with anything i build. The biggest problem I have with this prefab and pretty much all of the ones for the past year is that they offer a power connector however if i need to "plug something in" i cant unless i run the annoying conduits and uglify the look I'm trying to go for. How hard would it be to have multiple power ports on a prefab that lets the house act as one big conduit? With this one for example the power port is on the backside of the building but if I want to put my vendor or something powered on my porch I have to run lines around the border to connect to my power source. Now with this prefab I was able to hide my power source under the first floor stairs and clip through the wall to hide my power line. But it is what it is... Ultimately I was able to build something somewhat normally without a lot of clutter to make it work with my tastes. The attic I just threw the normal storage type stuff up there that I may find in an older home. There's always so much potential with these but it almost always seems to fall just short of what awesome it could end up being.
my biggest problem with prefabs is what you showed at the first of this video. trying to place them. in fact I have run into problems with moving my camp and trying to place it. many times when I move my camp I can't place it. more than once I have had to break my camp down and rebuild it order to place it. what really drives my crazy is when it turns green and still it will not let me place it because it says it is intersecting with an object or says it is floating.
the touble i ran into with the woodland retreat as that it was so tall trying to put my liberty fireplace up on the top floor didnt work as the roof was outside the building area
5:09 My problem with 76; too many hills. Should have set it in Nebraska. or anywhere FLAT. ... Oh, long time listener, first time caller, Love your guys' Minerva Updates. Keep being awesome, guys.
Thanks for the review. All things considered, it will be a no for me. If I feel the need to buy a prefab, it will be the 3 story saloon one. (Unless a really cool one comes out. I do have the red rocket garage.)
Oscap is unfortunately right there is a 0% chance of the aurora being visible as far south as the Virginias. Love your builds and 76 is about friends and fun so in the end who cares?
About the 50 lights limit: It's likely there because the engine has renowned issues with culling. That is, there's very little optimization when drawing the scene each frame from back to front. They made a pale attempt to limit the number of active lights at a time, to avoid straining PC/consoles too much. Same for the budget camp: Basically everything gets drawn on top of each other. That said, after 6 years would be nice (please don't crucify me for saying this) if they made the game a bit more intensive, to keep up with the evolving hardware. Sure, on consoles it probably can't be done by just increasing a number as their hardware doesn't change.
I don't have any bugs of any kind. it's stunning, and the price is amazing. The pets walk around perfectly fine and come inside. It's easy to build inside and doesn't take up any build budget. You can easily fill this and have plenty of budget left. I've got my kitchen/ dining room downstairs. I've got my living room on the 2nd floor the bed on the top floor and two bathrooms, one being a shower room on the 3rd floor. I've had no issues. Place it down. Yes, it doesn't quite fit the fallout vibe, but oh well, not all of us care. I don't know why some are issuing bugs with this, yet I'm not who knows 😉 guess I'm lucky
While 700 is am ok price, the fact it pretty much requires a 1200 atoms weather station to even remotely make sense kills it for me... Especially for a seasonal fling. You're much better with the other house imho that doesn't have icicles and similar build style and wallpapers.
They need more lax building rules. It took me 4 HOURS trying to set down the hunting lodge. Building takes away my playtime, I maybe play for an hour a day, the rest of my time its trying to build something Im even comfortable with. I shouldnt have to glitch and exploit just to set down things I bought with real money.
The first two spots were nothing but uneven terrain and trees. Of course it's not going to place and shoot up. The third spot was finally flat and the majority of you moving it, it was green. Looks like you just needed more flat terrain and less rocks and trees. I definitely agree on the layout inside. It's weird it's all open spaces and very few rooms. And the spaces are odd. I'll stick with the Woodland Retreat haha.
Well, i only showed you two seconds of every placement, when in reality I spent a good 20 minutes playing in each location. The first two spots are my regulars where I build ALL THE TIME. Other buildings work great there. The third spot was obviously a success, but while the building was in the green a lot it wasn't actually clicking to the ground. That's why I said it was still a pain in the ass to place it on flat ground. this new base SUCKS.
I bought the bundle because I really wanted the weather station. seems more worth spending a little more atoms. need to make a camp with the prefab to justify tho lol
Glad I decided not to get it in the end even before I know of the bugs, will rather try and use the Woodland retreat again and see if i can populate it within budget
So, brace yourself, I'm about to weigh in on the Oskapt vs Noodle winter retreat prefab debate... It's not canon friendly. I don't think its silly. Plenty of stores sell christmas decorations this time of year that play into people's nostalgia for christmas. It's a given that Bathesda is gonna try this with Fallout 76, since decorative things are most of the atom shop. Mind you, I'm not unbiased in that aspect, I prefer functional items in my camp such as resource collectors and buffing items, display cases rank third as I have five rare fasnact masks I like to hang on the wall (I'm always wearing one, three glowing, two rare) and I like putting stuff up, having markings for my achievements. I don't get as much joy from massive prefabs like these. I want prefabs to be canon friendly, but they don't have to strictly adhere to canon. I'm making an exception here because I believe there's enough evidence between fallout games for runaway climate change post nuclear winter and even before the bombs fell. 1. There is little to no environmental protection policy pre war, evidenced by Lake Quannapawit and the Nahant Oceanological society in Fallout 4. Its likely that climate change was just ignored with rampent capitalism and no protections. 2. The only place in four games that truly has snow is Jacobstown in Fallout New Vegas, which was at a much higher altitude. 3. No matter what date it is in Fallout 4 or 76, there are no seasonal changes to the area, no sign of winter other than Diamond City putting up a tree and some decorations in 4 and events in 76. 4. Regardless of the time of year, Cait in fallout 4 NEVER stops complaining about how hot it is. 5. Nuka world is a desert, not a plains, not a woodland, there's barely any grass that hasn't been artificially planted and maintained. Meanwhile Bar Harbor (Far Harbor in the games) is a foggy swampy forested mess that's probably got large amounts of radiation eating microbes and where its so dark that small animals survive there where they won't in many other places. Even coastal maine should have some snow. Far Harbor has NONE of it. I think we have ample evidence for rampent climate change in the world of Fallout starting prewar and continuing after nuclear winter concluded. Odds are very good there will never be snow in West Virginia for the forseeable future of the IP. Now I have enough theories about the ecology of Fallout centered around 4 and 76 has actually helped me refine them, but I'd keep you going with a small academic paper if you'd let me and that's outside the scope of this argument. Nor should you ask about my theory of Feral Ghoul diversification. XD or do and be ready for an even longer tldr! XD
Seems like, with these prefabs, all we get lately are tiny or HUGE. Where are the mediums? Something like the hunting lodge, but with more floor space. And I couldn't agree more with the light budget. (Side note), It would be kind of cool if one could apply wall paper, even if you had to pick one for the entire interior.
I found out yesterday that there is a way to add wallpaper to prefabs with a glitch. I will test this and if I can reliably replicate it, I will make a how-to video.
Isn't it Bethesda's company motto for 76? ---- "Beautyful Disaster" and To____od a kind of "Captain Chaos"....?.... Btw, small room : maybe a 🚾🚽 or a 🚿 🤷 Sorry, i'm Team Os! We need seasons in 76 with snow on the ground! But i'm with you....in the way of : start a contest to build a small stand or vendor hut. Then take the 20 or 30 of the best, build a (or more) sand box Christmas market server that players can visit and buy stuff from this stands.... That would be a great Christmas season thing in 76..... I would love that.👍
When I first seen this prefab I was excited for it but I already knew it was gonna have problems like space budget and light source budget.Couple things i dislike about it are it has the same crappy wallpapers and windows that the woodland retreat has 👎🏻 and it’s to huge 😂 and there is not really any good spot for it since it sticks out like a sour thumb 😂😂 overall this is a pass for me thanks for sharing love 💕
I honestly don't know why some players can't understand how weather can change even in the Wasteland it can get cold even in the Wasteland and become winner Seasons still change Mother Nature is a pretty normal thing I can't wrap my head around why people don't understand that also that does mean icicles can form if it's cold enough people are so very silly lol 😂😂😂
The general idea of prefabs aren't appealing to me as a whole like I know it'd be buggy but if you could break down a wall or ceiling or whatnot like bits and pieces or change walls wallpaper and whatnot then it'd be better especially for buildin. But all I can gather is they are just a chunk of building nothing else. Immediately unappealing. With this prefabs it'd be great if we actually had a snow covered area damn shame that we don't soo much missed opportunity with radioactive snow.
@Gamer_Aviator if they like to talk about F76 like a survival game it's be extremely cool if they actually had a new area and then system that explores the horrors of a nuclear winter. Like I doubt they'd actually give us a map wide nuclear winter. So that's why I talk about just getting a new area focused for it. But you made a great point they really don't seem like they have a quality control for their atom shop tho that does seem like that's a consistentcy with their content on all of their games that has a store function like that. It makes me think of my previous experiences with jobs focused on quantity instead of quality it's damn upsetting. It'd be nice if they actually started to communicate with fan base, instead of making false promises or just half ass their content. I've been playing since release on and off and everytime I get back I found out something has been changed either for the worse or they added something new with no real focus for what actually will be better for the game as a whole, like why do they have to put in half of the work and except us to lap it up and keep them in business. Sorry for the rant I've just got too much to say on the subject.
Well does he understand it's called winter retreat prefab for a reason it's a Christmas home not a summer home I agree with you the icicles look absolutely beautiful on the house and it should be used for winter like-minded builds and I don't see snow or winter a problem for a wasteland when it's all about the weather in coldness and coldness can happen even in the Wasteland people are being silly thinking it can't lol 😂
Anyone xomplaimg about the suze of the prefab just doesnt have enough motivation to make the space i fully furnished mine AND i built another 2 stories under the map with all my item gens and crafting tables
@Gamer_Aviator ill send a video anytime i fully decked out my place built alien stasis chamber thats merged into the ground and fully filled up another 2 stories of space that i also..... built. i did all of it in a afternoon before i had to go to work if u dont place a ton of stuff you dont need you can fill the space easily i still have like 25% of my build space left
I also filled my woodland retreat AND had enough space left over to make a candle haus prefab that i turned onto a shop. But i will say 4 of the rooms are rooms for members of my mothman group, but to be fair they made their own rooms... all im saying is if u want to make room you definetly can dont place a ton of crap u dont need and youll be good imo
I don't like it, I find pre fabs kind of boring. And with the budget limit, they get even more boring. I'm all about immersion in game. But prefabs are still better than flying shoe-boxes.
Are the bugs perhaps a code… from some poor graphic modder that Bethesda has locked away in some sub-level basement. Can anyone decipher the code? before the next buggy patch!!!
No way hard pass, way to big not lore friendly. All prefabs for me must have a "in game flavor." I also love to build things out of my prefab. Akin parasitic architecture.
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Yay, I saw two photos of my camp!
Since nobody asked, here's my big house build advice.
Tip 1: Lights! When I did my build I mentally budgeted two lights per room, one per closet/bathroom. Do not use dim lights at all. Use lights that shine over a large area. I actually strung up wires in my build just to get those powerful hanging color changing bulbs in there.
Tip 2: Merges! Great for saving space and showing how good of a builder you are. But we're not trying to save space, we gotta fill the giant space! Do little to no merges.
Tip 3: Place large items. If it's smaller than a stein, don't waste the budget on it. Have a small brewing station and a large one? Place the large one. You want to fill up the dang space.
Tip 4: Place anywhere walls (search youtube if you don't know what those are) with the barn wall can fit in your house. At least they can with the non-snowy house. You can add walls/wallpaper on interior walls, but not on prefab walls with windows. It makes a difference. (See my video if you don't believe me)
Tip 5. Make every room feel different from the rest. Combine carpets and different wallpapers, and lighting. I did blue/yellow room, red/black romantic, dingy rust/mold rooms, ect. I worked to make each room unique.
Building without merges shows how good of a builder you are IMO
At this point they just need to rename the company to bugthesda
This joke is older than some 76 players today lmao
I have to agree with Oskapt. It feels very seasonal. It would make sense if there were a part of the map that was snowy/seasonal oriented like the Halloween stuff. I skipped out on this one but I wouldn’t object to maybe another snowy/christmas prefab. Again though, it would probably only be used then.
see! It makes no sense to have this house in the wasteland! -oskapt
this very much, I would absolutely love to place a camp in some sort of snowy region and combine it with the snowy aurora weather
would be the perfect like, holiday getaway
But... doesn't patrolling the Mojave make you almost wish for a Nuclear Winter?
makes sense if they build on mountain tops
Another bug that may drive you slightly insane is the first floor. The whole floor is bugged and everything floats about 2 inches in the air. It bothered me so much that I covered the whole floor with slightly raised catwalks to fill the gap.
Also the handrails on the left corner of the front porch are missing collision so you pass right through them. And the interior wall on the first floor by the stairs also has no collision which is why your items got swallowed
I have been waiting for this video with bated breath because was wondering how I should decorate this prefab and I needed inspiration
Awesome. And... what did you decide?
I am currently at work. I see the trouble that you went through as did I like when trying to make the kitchen area, putting things on the wall with glitch and one such thing would appear through the back end of the wall, and when I went outside, I saw it sticking through giving me an irritated sensation
Once I return home from work, I will watch this video and post in the discord my end result
Though if you wish to see arrive, come up with as I go along, I believe you are on PC as well and I invite you to come see for yourself if you so choose
I am on PS5
While I understand the sentiment of being too seasonal, having a retreat like this is actually comforting compared to the bland weather of the rest of the wasteland. Also when it comes to the aurora and the snow, it reminds me a lot of silent hill. The mood lighting, the eerie music, those combined make the snow feel more like falling ash which in a nuclear winter actually makes sense. So I am enjoying this and will just take down xmas decorations post season but i will be staying in this home with said weather. Afterall I found my own tricks to making shelves and counters for a kitchen that put most prefab shop items to shame :P
furry also that name made me lol X3
Would love to see your take on a raider camp? Actually both you and ozkapt take on raider camp and the differences as you both have excellent taste
We have something in the works already ;) Stay tuned.
@Gamer_Aviator you all are the best
is that the prefab? Im happy with the set up for mine if you want to come see
They should drop the budget for the prefabs to be like an item so they can be furnished properly
Yes! 100%
If I was Todd and people kept sending me money why would I ever be incentivized to change camp budgets...
So I have more budget to place Atom shop items that they sell me.@@CoercedJab
You did an amazing job working around Bethesda’s bugs and omissions! Another great build!
I find it offensive that they ask for atoms for these things. They keep slapping us in the face and expecting us to thank them.
Thank you so much, and I completely agree with you.
@ I don’t buy anything anymore until you guys post, and I go through the comment section. Your guys’ channel and community you’ve built are really great.
Thank you so much. This means the world to us both.
Hey folks, here's a tip for placing things on wall in prefabs that don't cooperate. What i do is go to the defenses tab and go to any item that snaps to floor (railings ect..) and turn snapping OFF, then go back to the wall décor, and voila! no more issues, except if you're to close to the wall. Don't forget to go back and turn snapping back on again.
And you don't need to do this in shelters though because there always an option to turn snapping off in those. 🎅
That's a really great tip. Thank you so much.
Love your videos. Bought and was able to decorate it pretty fast. I put the icicle lights on the outside under the icicles. Hurt the light budget, but it is very beautiful.
Oh, I really wanted to do that, but knew I would run out of light budget. Now that I have new Christmas trees and ultracite crystals for extra lights, I will try redecorating with blue icicles.
I'm probably not going to bite on this prefab...tho you did a fabulous job decorating and make it tempting👍😍. I have the Woodland retreat which I've enjoyed decorating and tweaking. Ended up moving the workbenches into an attached shelter, but Bravo to your incorporating them into the home!
Thanks! yeah, it's definitely better than the Woodland Retreat, but if you don't absolutely have atoms to burn, I wouldn't bother with this one.
Would love to see you do the big green enclave armory in the enclave mega bundle. Looks huge and wide open.
Or a sweet raider build as both got mega bundles
Actually, oskapt is working on a kick-ass Enclave camp right now. Stay tuned for that.
@Gamer_Aviator hell yeah. Love you both. Keep them videos coming. I'm always signed up on notifications early. Cant contain all the excitement
Thank you!
if I had this prefab and weather set up I would use the new ice block items to imply snowfall in areas around the camp. Better than nothing IMHO
That’s a great idea
I was surprised to find the hungry wall and items snapping into the next floor or on top of structures but, this was worth it to me. I'm a sucker for holiday themed items and especially winter/Christmas themed ones. It's always going to be my favorite time of year
I love it, it was purchased for the look and challenge of decorating. I managed to get it in the ground with just a small corner of the slab at the entrance off the ground. I was able to hide the visible space with 2 ground plants. My only regret is not placing the camp 10 feet closer to the edge of the lake. Actually surprised at being able to get it that far into the ground with the slope. When I get catwalks I might be able to sink a stone floor underneath the stairs slab. Has nobody noticed the vanishing window? Look from the porch into the house and see everything but go around the wall and the window disappears and is covered by wallpaper. I tend to buy things knowing it might be glitched and can I live with it untill its fixed or not. I held faith in the stone oven and finally it was fixed this update. See y'all live on Tuesday for the next update.
Part of me wants to buy it for the challenge of decorating it but on the other hand I’m terrible at designing my camps
I always wished the weather would change with our real seasons
I bought this prefab and have been decorating it with everything i can find. As for the shooting up a floor when placed ive noticed atleast on my end that it usually happens when theres a carpet above where you want to put whatever it is down. I personally like how seasonal it is, gives me another way to decorate for the hollidays.
I noticed that carpets are somehow involved in the shooting up through the ceiling glitch, but it seems to not be carpet specific.
With stuff shooting up to the floor above, I found that it's an issue with having objects placed on the floor above first. If you build from the bottom up, there won't be any carpet or surfaces above for the items to clip to. I had it happen to me in the Woodland Retreat when I tried moving some objects around after I'd finished decorating. So I guess build order matters here, too!
That’s really good to know. Thanks!
@@Gamer_Aviator You're welcome ^_^ !
id love a remake of the winter retreat with no snow or icicles on it. the design is great, i love the rooms and outline, but i share ozcap's concern about it only being usable 3 month per year. they could call it the Year round retreat
Hey can I place both cat and dog in the camp at the same time? Or do I have to choose one or the other?🤔
One or the other
I got this immediately, the house itself, not the bundle, because I'm a sucker for pre-fabs like this. I plopped it down in the shelter that is a neighborhood? Can't remember the name. Not the city block but the cul-de-sac neighborhood. It fits in nicely. Some tricks with the kitchen cabinets is to build them on walls outside, blueprint it, then place the blueprint inside. This worked great with the woodland retreat so should work well here too. I haven't tried yet but will be my first method.
And here I make my fallout 76 life decisions by watching you guys spend atoms! I will give this a miss even though I love this prefab. I already have that woodland retreat to deal with
yeah, if you have the Woodland Retreat, you definitely don't need this as well :D
TYSM🎉 for the shout out❤
You are most welcome. :)
Ive purchased the snow northern lights machine, after watching your review. Built on top of a mountain and you get the effect which is impressive.
That’s really great to know. I will try it in my other camp locations. I’m still loving it.
@Gamer_Aviator Even the Halloween weather machine seems more impressive up high. You seem to get the effect, constantly.
I love it it is my new Christmas Eve creepy Holiday retreat it is forever in my holiday slot for camps😂
Awesome! Share some pics in the Vault.
The blue icicle lights look good put along the prefab ones. I put some all around and it looks cute. Placed near Grafton station since it has a lot of white around, kind of reminding me of nuclear winter type vibe. The weather station really makes this look amazing! I just need more holiday decor now
Yeah, I wanted to do blue icicles around the whole house, but that locked me out of lights for the rest of the house. Light budget.
i foudn alot of prefabs have the bug where even if they remove trees, the trees will respawn inside the prefab making it rather annoying, also we the players are the QA team
Yeah, I have a few house where trees sometimes pop up in the livingroom.
I think it just comes down to personal preference. I made a spooky camp for Halloween and it is by far my favorite camp to use!
I’m new to the game and have stopped playing since maybe November or October, but I am level 62 and I just bought this structure and I love it, already trying to reset my base and camp for both me and travelers to gather free supplies (whatever I can output) for 700 atoms, the size, Space, and Cost were definitely worth it to me, I just unlocked Bullion too so I can now spend my gold on Stat boosts or resources, I did want to grab the Black Friday bundle for 1980 but was short about 200 atoms and I wasn’t gonna grind 200 atoms in under 12 hrs at midnight (it had a lot…like 2-3 pre builds and some cool resources…tree sap,fetchtron,Acid waste) but I am happy with my house and new camp/base idea
Wooo my list of lights made it to a video ❤ hope we can collab and get some more info
Oh yeah, it's gold!
Great review as always. I ran across the same issue with a number of wall mounted items as well. How can something not have support when clearly there's a wall there? Its just frustrating with anything i build. The biggest problem I have with this prefab and pretty much all of the ones for the past year is that they offer a power connector however if i need to "plug something in" i cant unless i run the annoying conduits and uglify the look I'm trying to go for. How hard would it be to have multiple power ports on a prefab that lets the house act as one big conduit? With this one for example the power port is on the backside of the building but if I want to put my vendor or something powered on my porch I have to run lines around the border to connect to my power source. Now with this prefab I was able to hide my power source under the first floor stairs and clip through the wall to hide my power line. But it is what it is...
Ultimately I was able to build something somewhat normally without a lot of clutter to make it work with my tastes. The attic I just threw the normal storage type stuff up there that I may find in an older home. There's always so much potential with these but it almost always seems to fall just short of what awesome it could end up being.
2:16 You can say a snowy seasonal home doesn't fit into the game, but... Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
Same feeling with the fancy shelters with the house
my biggest problem with prefabs is what you showed at the first of this video. trying to place them. in fact I have run into problems with moving my camp and trying to place it. many times when I move my camp I can't place it. more than once I have had to break my camp down and rebuild it order to place it. what really drives my crazy is when it turns green and still it will not let me place it because it says it is intersecting with an object or says it is floating.
Oh yeah, that's such a big problem in this game!
the touble i ran into with the woodland retreat as that it was so tall trying to put my liberty fireplace up on the top floor didnt work as the roof was outside the building area
yes! that was a problem for a lot for builders. I never even got to the top floor. Ran out or budget on the first floor. hahaha
Love these vids thankyou so much
You're most welcome. I love making them. :)
5:09 My problem with 76; too many hills.
Should have set it in Nebraska. or anywhere FLAT.
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Thanks for the review. All things considered, it will be a no for me. If I feel the need to buy a prefab, it will be the 3 story saloon one. (Unless a really cool one comes out. I do have the red rocket garage.)
Three stories is WAY better than this. Three should be limit really.
Oscap is unfortunately right there is a 0% chance of the aurora being visible as far south as the Virginias.
Love your builds and 76 is about friends and fun so in the end who cares?
Very true. We love it here, and I will keep building and playing. :)
We have seen them
About the 50 lights limit:
It's likely there because the engine has renowned issues with culling. That is, there's very little optimization when drawing the scene each frame from back to front. They made a pale attempt to limit the number of active lights at a time, to avoid straining PC/consoles too much. Same for the budget camp: Basically everything gets drawn on top of each other.
That said, after 6 years would be nice (please don't crucify me for saying this) if they made the game a bit more intensive, to keep up with the evolving hardware. Sure, on consoles it probably can't be done by just increasing a number as their hardware doesn't change.
Nuclear Winter! 🥶
indeed
I don't have any bugs of any kind. it's stunning, and the price is amazing. The pets walk around perfectly fine and come inside. It's easy to build inside and doesn't take up any build budget. You can easily fill this and have plenty of budget left. I've got my kitchen/ dining room downstairs. I've got my living room on the 2nd floor the bed on the top floor and two bathrooms, one being a shower room on the 3rd floor. I've had no issues. Place it down. Yes, it doesn't quite fit the fallout vibe, but oh well, not all of us care. I don't know why some are issuing bugs with this, yet I'm not who knows 😉 guess I'm lucky
Cool. glad to hear you had a positive experience with it.
While 700 is am ok price, the fact it pretty much requires a 1200 atoms weather station to even remotely make sense kills it for me... Especially for a seasonal fling. You're much better with the other house imho that doesn't have icicles and similar build style and wallpapers.
i hate that it half swallows!
It's definitely mostly good as a seasonal home plus I feel like u need the snow weather station
Agreed. Without a snow station this makes zero sense.
They need more lax building rules. It took me 4 HOURS trying to set down the hunting lodge. Building takes away my playtime, I maybe play for an hour a day, the rest of my time its trying to build something Im even comfortable with. I shouldnt have to glitch and exploit just to set down things I bought with real money.
At Bethesda the motto is “Quality is Job #12”
Hahahaha
The first two spots were nothing but uneven terrain and trees. Of course it's not going to place and shoot up. The third spot was finally flat and the majority of you moving it, it was green. Looks like you just needed more flat terrain and less rocks and trees. I definitely agree on the layout inside. It's weird it's all open spaces and very few rooms. And the spaces are odd. I'll stick with the Woodland Retreat haha.
Well, i only showed you two seconds of every placement, when in reality I spent a good 20 minutes playing in each location. The first two spots are my regulars where I build ALL THE TIME. Other buildings work great there. The third spot was obviously a success, but while the building was in the green a lot it wasn't actually clicking to the ground. That's why I said it was still a pain in the ass to place it on flat ground. this new base SUCKS.
I see someone still hasnt figured out how snow falls. Is it that hard to watch a falling snow video.
Bethesda sure didn't yet :D
@Gamer_Aviator Nope! I live in snow country. This snowfall forces my eyes to follow it down. Its really annoying.
Where is that spot with the bridge?
It's near Lake Eloise all the way down on the map. I think I'll build a tree house there instead.
@Gamer_Aviator Awesome! Thank you!
I bought the bundle because I really wanted the weather station. seems more worth spending a little more atoms. need to make a camp with the prefab to justify tho lol
Ah yes, that prefab is a big part of the overall cost.
Glad I decided not to get it in the end even before I know of the bugs, will rather try and use the Woodland retreat again and see if i can populate it within budget
I thought about getting this, but I really hate the way the interior wood floors look.
So, brace yourself, I'm about to weigh in on the Oskapt vs Noodle winter retreat prefab debate...
It's not canon friendly. I don't think its silly. Plenty of stores sell christmas decorations this time of year that play into people's nostalgia for christmas. It's a given that Bathesda is gonna try this with Fallout 76, since decorative things are most of the atom shop. Mind you, I'm not unbiased in that aspect, I prefer functional items in my camp such as resource collectors and buffing items, display cases rank third as I have five rare fasnact masks I like to hang on the wall (I'm always wearing one, three glowing, two rare) and I like putting stuff up, having markings for my achievements. I don't get as much joy from massive prefabs like these. I want prefabs to be canon friendly, but they don't have to strictly adhere to canon.
I'm making an exception here because I believe there's enough evidence between fallout games for runaway climate change post nuclear winter and even before the bombs fell.
1. There is little to no environmental protection policy pre war, evidenced by Lake Quannapawit and the Nahant Oceanological society in Fallout 4. Its likely that climate change was just ignored with rampent capitalism and no protections.
2. The only place in four games that truly has snow is Jacobstown in Fallout New Vegas, which was at a much higher altitude.
3. No matter what date it is in Fallout 4 or 76, there are no seasonal changes to the area, no sign of winter other than Diamond City putting up a tree and some decorations in 4 and events in 76.
4. Regardless of the time of year, Cait in fallout 4 NEVER stops complaining about how hot it is.
5. Nuka world is a desert, not a plains, not a woodland, there's barely any grass that hasn't been artificially planted and maintained. Meanwhile Bar Harbor (Far Harbor in the games) is a foggy swampy forested mess that's probably got large amounts of radiation eating microbes and where its so dark that small animals survive there where they won't in many other places. Even coastal maine should have some snow. Far Harbor has NONE of it.
I think we have ample evidence for rampent climate change in the world of Fallout starting prewar and continuing after nuclear winter concluded. Odds are very good there will never be snow in West Virginia for the forseeable future of the IP.
Now I have enough theories about the ecology of Fallout centered around 4 and 76 has actually helped me refine them, but I'd keep you going with a small academic paper if you'd let me and that's outside the scope of this argument. Nor should you ask about my theory of Feral Ghoul diversification. XD or do and be ready for an even longer tldr! XD
Wow! You sure know your weather!
I like the new house ive not ran into any problems with it ill be doing a vid tonight of my pad
whoever cobbled up this prefab needs to be fired. all these bugs couldve been avoided
100%
Personally love this pre fab for winter and I have had zero issues with it thus far. But as always appreciate the video!
Seems like, with these prefabs, all we get lately are tiny or HUGE. Where are the mediums? Something like the hunting lodge, but with more floor space. And I couldn't agree more with the light budget. (Side note), It would be kind of cool if one could apply wall paper, even if you had to pick one for the entire interior.
I found out yesterday that there is a way to add wallpaper to prefabs with a glitch. I will test this and if I can reliably replicate it, I will make a how-to video.
Isn't it Bethesda's company motto for 76? ---- "Beautyful Disaster" and To____od a kind of "Captain Chaos"....?....
Btw, small room : maybe a 🚾🚽 or a 🚿 🤷
Sorry, i'm Team Os! We need seasons in 76 with snow on the ground!
But i'm with you....in the way of : start a contest to build a small stand or vendor hut. Then take the 20 or 30 of the best, build a (or more) sand box Christmas market server that players can visit and buy stuff from this stands.... That would be a great Christmas season thing in 76.....
I would love that.👍
I was thinking of making it a toilet, but there is no way to put a door on it :D
@@Gamer_Aviator 🫣 & 🫢 😉😂
When I first seen this prefab I was excited for it but I already knew it was gonna have problems like space budget and light source budget.Couple things i dislike about it are it has the same crappy wallpapers and windows that the woodland retreat has 👎🏻 and it’s to huge 😂 and there is not really any good spot for it since it sticks out like a sour thumb 😂😂 overall this is a pass for me thanks for sharing love 💕
You are most welcome, ME. Hey, you spend a lot of time here on the channel. Please hit that Subscribe button. ;)
@ it’s already done ✅ I hit that button along time ago 😭😇
Oh weird. Coz you don't show up as a sub.
@ yea I checked I’m Subscribed lol 😂
If I could have one fallout 4 mor in 76 it'd place anywhere hands down.
I'm waiting for fishing to come to 76 because...Waaar...Waaar never changes.
I honestly don't know why some players can't understand how weather can change even in the Wasteland it can get cold even in the Wasteland and become winner Seasons still change Mother Nature is a pretty normal thing I can't wrap my head around why people don't understand that also that does mean icicles can form if it's cold enough people are so very silly lol 😂😂😂
this is why i prefer my bricks (Non prefabs).
I'm with ya. My best camps are hand-made.
The general idea of prefabs aren't appealing to me as a whole like I know it'd be buggy but if you could break down a wall or ceiling or whatnot like bits and pieces or change walls wallpaper and whatnot then it'd be better especially for buildin. But all I can gather is they are just a chunk of building nothing else. Immediately unappealing. With this prefabs it'd be great if we actually had a snow covered area damn shame that we don't soo much missed opportunity with radioactive snow.
Yeah, especially with all the new weather stations we're getting, we should have something like proper nuclear winter.
@Gamer_Aviator if they like to talk about F76 like a survival game it's be extremely cool if they actually had a new area and then system that explores the horrors of a nuclear winter. Like I doubt they'd actually give us a map wide nuclear winter. So that's why I talk about just getting a new area focused for it. But you made a great point they really don't seem like they have a quality control for their atom shop tho that does seem like that's a consistentcy with their content on all of their games that has a store function like that. It makes me think of my previous experiences with jobs focused on quantity instead of quality it's damn upsetting. It'd be nice if they actually started to communicate with fan base, instead of making false promises or just half ass their content. I've been playing since release on and off and everytime I get back I found out something has been changed either for the worse or they added something new with no real focus for what actually will be better for the game as a whole, like why do they have to put in half of the work and except us to lap it up and keep them in business. Sorry for the rant I've just got too much to say on the subject.
Foxleader my guy why on earth would you record a camp tour with the glitched out PA UI on the screen 😅
hehehehe I thought it gave it a ver wastelandy look.
Half swallow?!
Rude.
so rude :D
Unfortunately, we are the QA testers!
like it but lost a bed in the window box on 2nd floor other than that had fun with it
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yeah.. sad sad sad I don't know what to do with the damn thing. It's cute, but not really decked out the way I want.
Tbh the whole game is a beautiful disaster atm since the update I can't go more than 3 expeditions in a row before it crashes
Well does he understand it's called winter retreat prefab for a reason it's a Christmas home not a summer home I agree with you the icicles look absolutely beautiful on the house and it should be used for winter like-minded builds and I don't see snow or winter a problem for a wasteland when it's all about the weather in coldness and coldness can happen even in the Wasteland people are being silly thinking it can't lol 😂
Anyone xomplaimg about the suze of the prefab just doesnt have enough motivation to make the space i fully furnished mine AND i built another 2 stories under the map with all my item gens and crafting tables
NOt true. Watch my other build video and then we'll talk again. ;)
@Gamer_Aviator ill send a video anytime i fully decked out my place built alien stasis chamber thats merged into the ground and fully filled up another 2 stories of space that i also..... built. i did all of it in a afternoon before i had to go to work if u dont place a ton of stuff you dont need you can fill the space easily i still have like 25% of my build space left
I also filled my woodland retreat AND had enough space left over to make a candle haus prefab that i turned onto a shop. But i will say 4 of the rooms are rooms for members of my mothman group, but to be fair they made their own rooms... all im saying is if u want to make room you definetly can dont place a ton of crap u dont need and youll be good imo
Doesn't fit in the wasteland? Hasn't this guy ever heard of... Nuclear Winter?! 🤣
Right! That's what I said!!! -noodle
I literally got added in the last minute.
Yes you did! And only because I ran a day late with production. hahahaha Love your camp.
I don't like it, I find pre fabs kind of boring. And with the budget limit, they get even more boring. I'm all about immersion in game. But prefabs are still better than flying shoe-boxes.
Yay Christmas 🤶
Merry Christmas!
Are the bugs perhaps a code… from some poor graphic modder that Bethesda has locked away in some sub-level basement. Can anyone decipher the code? before the next buggy patch!!!
Isn't that the Bethesda way though lol, introducing camp items that are broken and scamming players out of their money.
No way hard pass, way to big not lore friendly. All prefabs for me must have a "in game flavor." I also love to build things out of my prefab. Akin parasitic architecture.
I prefer properly immersive builds myself.
Bought Bugs, and got raid for free ... gleaming dephth raid ... seee what i did there 😅
hahahaha love it.
C'mon it's funny. You spend YOUR MONEY and it...doesn't work. Ha, ha... c'mon why aren't you laughing, Bethesda is.
Oh the humor is not lost of me, trust me. :D