@@michaelbugner7011 It was discovered that WASN'T the case in the Q&A as the sister to one of the crew members was living on the island they were passing so it's more likely that they got close to make a special moment for the two family members, people have lied about what the captain was doing the entire time and because it was adding more discredit to the captain the media took those lies and ran with it!
Yes and no. You are correct but the "authorized" personnel is at the Captain's discretion. If the Captain wants to invite his lady friend to the bridge it's his right as Captain to do so even though it's a bad look for him. For that matter sometimes they invite family members and trainees on the bridge as well (you obviously want future officers to know what a proper bridge would look like) however in situations like this where the ship is performing a maneuver you do generally want to keep the staff on bridge to a minimum. But in the end, if the Captain wants to show off to his mistress he's the Captain and he can do that, although if the ship crashes like here he's gonna be in serious trouble afterwards.
@@bob1986 Again the showing off to the "mistress" wasn't the case here, the Q&A covers that in fact there's even a quote from Historian himself that he mentions in the Q&A about a note one of the editors passed him which was "it's not like he had her bent over the wheel" this is just an example of the media taking ANYTHING that made the captain look bad and ran with it.
Oh I assure you they thought about it, they just didn't think that the captain would be so stupid as to put them in a situation like this. The other possibility is that, if anything did go tits up, the fine for the damages would be less than that I'm paying a competent crew that all spoke the same language. You know car companies do that. If they know there's a flaw with the vehicle, and the cost of recalling and repairing all the vehicles is more than that of a lawsuit due to the failed part, they'll let the part fail and eat a lawsuit.
There's a navigator who reacted to this and he said it's not uncommon for ships to have crew members of different nationalities, thus resulting in language barriers that more often than not causes communication breakdown.
@@Tamaki742 That is really, really stupid for a $400 million ship. You would think that the insurance companies would require all the people in charge of steering the ship speak English the way pilots and air traffic controllers are required to.
This is the third reaction that I’ve watched of this video and I just noticed that when he threw the bell overboard he played the little sound Rose made when she threw the heart of the ocean into the water.
First off, was hoping to see you guys do this one. I think what makes this video so good is that IH brings his specific humor, but he keeps it serious when talking about the wounded and the loss of life. He never comes off malicious to anyone involved that didn’t absolutely deserve it. Plus he really does his research, and as the end says, he usually follows up and makes corrections if he needs to.
When tragedies occur, there are always heroes and cowards and the aftermath reveals villains and victims, it is as true here as any disaster, events like this reveal character and quality
Most people: "If you are bothered by reactors talking over videos go watch the original" Meanwhile they are more expressive without uttering a word than most reactors with all their screaming, yelling and talking over the actual video
@Esseks I like ones who are just right in the middle like The Renegades. They talk about the video but they always pause it first so they don’t miss anything so you get both reaction and response.
@Esseks Cool essay, wouldn't of put it better myself. I'd say, in my opinion, there are some rules a reaction video should follow to be fair. 1. React at least a couple of days after the actual video. 2. Talk, conceal or disrupt the video enough for it to be valuable to watch the original video as well as the reaction. 3. DON'T BE LIKE FORSEN.
@Esseks Yeah, I understand your pain. When someone talks too much or pauses too much of the video. However, it was mainly drawing back to Forsen, who let's his chat do his job and puts the video full-screen without any overlay or face cam. But also you it also points to the fact that you can do more things with the original video (like inverting colours etc.)
@Esseks Well, yeah, no complaints here. The only time I get annoyed at reactors if they are profiting off someone's work with no alterations or they have more subscribers than someone who deserves it (but that isn't justified).
Geez that couple must be really heavy sleepers if they slept through A FREAKIN' SHIPWRECK. Seriously, I have no clue how you would sleep through something like that.
I've heard people speculate that Schettino probably made it to captain so fast, and probably at all, due to some form mafia involvement. Just speculation though, so who really knows.
A definite factor is that - on these cruiseships - the captain is also a bit of a PR guy. Make people feel welcome. Schmooze. La vida loca. Who cares, these ships drive themseeelves! :V
Not likely. He had all the qualifications, but captain positions are limited and rare so you bide your time doing other things in the industry while you wait for one to open up
yes as josh said, you could have all the qualifications to be a captain but with no spots open, you can be put somewhere els in the industry until a spot opens up for you.
Hm I guess this story wasn't really that famos (or rather infamos) outside of Europe. I remember in Germany the news reported quite extensively on the whole disasterat the time.
Nikki looks so fed up with the captain's behavior also its outrageous how the Ship cost around 500 M while the refloating attempt cost around 1 Billion, it cost more to float it back than to build it!
The people who were asleep, remember the ship cut power pretty quickly, like seconds, they were likely in bed, jostled awake and when they checked the door it was locked.
What marked me more is that when the Captain was back in his hotel and being asked why he wasn't the last one leaving the ship, and him saying he was, the counter at the top left was saying there was still around 35 people still ON the ship. So they were still being evacuated, but he said "nah, we're all safe" -_-
internett historian is the master of making me hyped or stressed the entire crash got me on the edge of my seat and i already knew what was gonna happen
I remember seeing this on the news and after i read about it im surprised that only 32 people died. It sank on Friday the 13th 2012 on the 100th anniversary of the Titanic sinking. Coincidence I THINK NOT
49:55 That is because he's probably acknowledging the fact that anyone in those same conditions could risk becoming like that, meaning: never take yourself for granted, always keep your guard up; whereas (I suppose) you are thinking "that's never going to happen to me, I'm a better person than that", which you most likely are, but yet, it's always better to keep your guard up. During hard times, emotions can twist your reason in ways you couldn't possibly imagine and it's really hard to even realise it.
What made this highly amusing to me was to watch both your facial reactions to this film, knowing you both knew nothing. I wasn't disappointed. I was watching everything on the Concordia just to see if the cowardly captain got jailed and some justification for the passengers and loss of life.
The second a ship begins sinking the company that owns it no longer pays the crew, as legally they're paid to work on a ship and the second a ship begins sinking it is no longer classified as a ship
@Lemon Grab Well, I think you should reconsider your argument if it's literally appeared on the Wikipedia article about the Brace Position smack dab on the Myth section
I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but hiring a helmsman who has no prior experience, having a captain who's caused multiple accidents already, all combined with the language barriers and the complacency of people like the third officer makes it hard to believe that no-one at Costa Crociere saw this disaster coming.
Apparently, the captain was trying to do a nicety for some big shot. Also, the police chief thought the man was thinking of throwing himself onto the rocks when he was on that cliff so I would assume he wasn't all there at that point. I don't think that makes it any better and he still deserves his jail time 2x over in my opinion but really it seems like everyone threw him under the bus which kind of means it overshadowed the other screwups the bridge staff was making. Like if someone was relaying coordinates this might have never happened or he might have realized sooner he was too close. Like if he figured it out 8 secs sooner maybe this would have never happened. If you look at airliners, stuff like that would get you in some serious trouble. Really the whole command staff messed up bad and all deserve at least some time in the slammer, but it seems like everyone else got off with house arrest or community service. Only real saving grace was the company got hit by that 25% stock dip and the near 2 billion hit they had to pay for the cleanup.
Before I make my comment, big ups for reacting to a video this long! I made a big fat steak when I got home and saw the upload. We're vibing! Now, everybody makes mistakes. If the ship sank because of a language barrier and they notified the authorities immediately, this would have just been very, very, unfortunate waste of an absolutely beautiful vessel. They're right off the coast and the authorities can handle a situation like this easily with enough warning. Deciding to make everything worse by fucking lying about it is inexcusable bullshit. Like, why? You're going to rescue your ship that's fucked? How? Maybe nobody will notice that they're underwater? Be a man. If the ship is drifting and your position as 'captain' doesn't mean anything, stay in contact with authorities and instruct everyone to assist all the passengers, including going to every single cabin and making sure they're empty. Props to all the authorities including the coast guard.
there is a line where not revealing 100% of the truth is acceptable. now, this is for the passengers obviously. the reason is to avoid panic, since panic can kill them even faster. notice that is said "not revealing 100% of the truth" which is different of a complete lie because if they caught you lying then the panic will be even worse. So what does this means? The ship is sinking, yes, but you cant say it to the people, most will panic because of that. You can say that there are problems, you can say you are looking into it, that is acceptable. Now another difference to what happened there. when you dont reveal all the truth it has to be for one reason: making sure the people dont panic so you can evacuate them in a safe way. So the right thing to do would be say to them that there are problems with the ship, they are looking into it, but for precaution they need to go to the muster station, and eventually evacuate them, there will still be some people with a chance to panic but those we are told to detect and deal separately to make sure it doesnt spread. i want you to focus on what my point is here. im not saying they should lie, im saying they should only reveal the necessary to make people move to where you want them to safely evacuate them. and there it is another keyword in my point "to safely evacuate them" whcih is something they took a lot of time to do. In this case they lied to make them go to their cabins and stuff like that, when we (or at least me) were taught in the maritime school that we do that to evacuate them. This is for the passengers side, now you also have the coast guard. To the only entity that can provide rescue, you are right, you cant lie. I admit that you might not be aware yet if you can save the ship (not talking about this case in specific now), but you still need to contact them. contacting them doesnt mean you need to straight away ask for help, you can tell them the situation and say that you dont need help at the moment but for them to stand by. Whats the difference? well the difference is that the coast guard would be ready to act with all means necessary if the captain decides to ask for rescue. by lying they werent ready when that moment arrived.
I would like to point something out, they didn’t crash due to language barrier. Although that did play a small part in it, no the captain said port 20. However the helmsman, probably due to the stress of the situation and the fact that he was a nooby, turned starboard instead of port. That was their downfall. But other than that, both of you guys have great points.
@@austinmeyer_238 when there is an accident it is never for 1 reason. You can see on reports of any accident, they will reveal a group of reasons, since accidents happen after a chain of mistakes is made (a group of nearmisses leads to a bigger accident). You can pick 3 main factors here: Language barrier, complacency and inexperience. Language barrier is what started the problem, without it probably they wouldn't be on a situation where the other 2 factors would come into play. This is why we are told that on board it is mandatory to relay every order when it is given to us, and repeat it again after is completed, when who gives the order repeats again to acknowledge that the order is completed. So a order is said at least 4 times which helps to avoid misunderstandings caused by language barrier. Then with the problems caused by the language barrier they got themselves in a dangerous position, they could get out safely if they noticed earlier, but they didn't because of complacency. For this we are taught to always expect someone else to screw up. This one is a tricky one. What our teachers on maritime school said is that we shouldn't focus on the tasks of the others and should instead focus on our own, but at the same time trust that the others can fail, so to keep a lookout for that, so you know if any correction is needed. This usually is a problem because of that way of thinking: "it is not my responsibility (that specific task) so it is not my concern" this is wrong because on the bridge we are all responsible, each one at different degrees but still all responsible. Now language barrier lead to a dangerous position, complacency lead to a worse situation and now you have the inexperience, in this case from the helmsman. Unfortunately there is not much you as an officer can do in this part. You can only acknowledge the lack of experience of a specific crewmember and pay more attention to it. So here you can point at least 3 main factors for the accident each with the same degree on importance. One alone wouldn't cause this mess. But at the same time, take one (yes, just one) of these factors of the chain and you avoid the accident. Now from the 3, language barrier is quite difficult to overcome, they could try to find a way but it is hard on the spot to do so. Inexperience is the same as language barrier, there is not much you can do on the moment to correct it. This leaves one factor, complacency, this one they could and should have avoided, specially knowing that the other 2 factors were there (lets be honest, it is quite obvious the language barrier and inexperience) so they should have made an extra effort to make sure each task is being done correctly. And all this leads to another factor that you can add to the chain. Situational awareness. They had no clue were the ship was in comparison to the predicted course. This is other problem that the factor of complacency helped to worsen the situation. If they had all of them doing their tasks properly they would have known the exact position of the ship and corrected the course earlier.
I dont think I've heard of this incident but this was awful to watch and seeing how many mistakes could have been avoided and all the people who died could have lived it's just ridiculous.
You guys didn't talk that much during this video (understandably because the topic of the video is really captivating and sad) but this reaction was still so much fun to watch lol. Keep up the good work! ❤ The facial reactions/expressions were so funny to watch 😂
Well in fairness he didn't commit murder, he was neglectful of his duties, he should never hold a job that holds responsibility over any members of the public though
@@MrPoc100 Yeah, but it was incompetence. He didn't maliciously murder anyone; which, I think is more important than the damage done. It like the difference between tripping and accidentally pushing a piano off of a building, which then kills someone; compared to intentionally pushing a piano off of a building to kill someone. The main purpose of prison should be to keep dangerous people away from the public, not punish people. I think that it's a decent verdict that encourages accountability, while not being excessive.
You guys have to react to the Engoodening of No Man's Sky and The Fall of 76. I know it's videogame related and you may not be into it, but you might be surprised as to how appealing they are even to non-gaming people.
41:09 Bit of context for that clip. The pedestrian walking across the street got honked at by the driver with the dashcam for jaywalking in front of him. In response, the pedestrian decided to stare at the driver and intentionally slow down, but ended up walking straight into the pole because he wasn't looking where he was going.
I really enjoy your reactions to IH, Dude is a legend - Hope you can get round to all his stuff + second channel soon! Keeping a close eye :D Subscribed
I mean.. to be fair.. What the fuck are they supposed to tell the passengers, except "everything is under control, please remain calm". Should they rather say "we're fucked, going down and probably gonna die"? Panic is the least thing you need in a moment like that. Like seen here, as soon as they announced that the passengers get the fuck off that ship and sounded the alarms, panic broke out.
When captains run routes an incredible amount of times they can feel the distance from shore by their eyes alone so thats why he said its a common thing but only common with very experienced captains
Imagine if the magician hadn't remembered to flip the latch. That would of been one of the most horrifical and cruel deaths ever. Locked in a box whilst everyone else flees for safety with no knowledge your even there whilst you wait for the ship to sink and for you to drown. That is terrifying to think of, at least some had a semblance of common sense.
@@kallemort yea he signed a 360 deal when he first started and I guess the company he signed with locked him out of all social media accounts. The company has control over the youtube and instagram now
They LITERALLY tried to yeet every conceivable pitfall at this thing. From a poorly thrown together crew to faulty design, to even every single jinx you can imagine (which, even if you don't believe in that stuff, at best, it's in extremely poor taste, at worse, it's like daring something bad to happen). What a shitshow... Also, Nikki's shirt is very disturbing.
on that instagram page of that woman (the moldovan) there's a comment in italian that says "forget about cockpits, for god's sake!" anyway strange how this story isn't known outside europe, to be honest, it's strange how it seems years ago since that disaster, with all the information that we have we kinda forgot even important things i remember well that the admiral became viral (the famous phone call) basically he didn't have informations about the ship or contradictory stories about that..."man" and given the situation where you can potentially put your men in danger, he remained pretty calm for standards...i mean, anyone else would have lose control a lot more enjoyed your reaction, greetings from italy
So, there's another reaction to this that I think you lads might be worth watching even if it's not as a reaction of your own (yes, I'm aware of the react seption there) and they give a lot more insight to how this kind of field works as well as the effect this kind of incident affected the industry.
...As a european some of this shit boils my blood. I'm sorry but he should rot away in jail. How come he gets to live a life while people who didn't do anything wrong and their families can't? Only way I could accept it is if he spent the rest of his days making up for it to each an everyone of those families and it still wouldn't be enough. Anyone with a little dignity or pride would've gone done with the fucking boat rather than be made the laughing stock
16 years is extremely long when you think about it though, I feel like he deserves that or the 26 years though. The U.S is kind of crazy by giving decades of prison for very small things.
@@hagnartheviking6584 I just don't agree. Serving over 2 decades in prison and having a ruined rep are in my opinion enough. Yes, people died and their loss can never be paid back with anything. But I just can't agree with giving him life in prison. Depends on if after his sentence he says he doesn't regret what he had done. Then I feel like he shouldn't be let go. "Under New York State law, the penalty for possession of 16 ounces of marijuana is equivalent to that for illegally selling a firearm, or for possessing an explosive bomb or machine gun: a minimum jail sentence of one to three years (and a maximum of seven). The penalty for selling 16 ounces of marijuana is equivalent to that for illegally selling 10 firearms: 3? to 15 years in jail. The absurd message: pot is as or more harmful than guns." Source: "Drugs and Guns in New York State," compiled by Carl Bromley, from The Nation magazine, Sept. 20, 1999, "Beyond Legalization: New Ideas for Ending the War on Drugs." Stuff like this is what I find ridiculous about the U.S. system.
10:47 that's definitely contaminating a crime scene Why would you lie to the harbourmaster Also captain is meant to be the last one off the ship Side note when the pictures of the damage are showing why does Nikki look like she’s going to cry 27:56 the guy was trying to be Harry Potter
I think where the captain failed was his denial of the situation and his decisions to delay the abandoning of the ship (also all the lying). The decision to abandon ship should of been made after the engineers confirmed that at least 3 compartments had flooded on a ship rated for 2 compartment flooding. His own personal decision to abandon ship is also inexcusable. I believe the captain has a duty to go down with the ship. He did seem like he at least knew how to maneuver the vessel (though he should of never allowed the ship to get that close to shore) with that complex swinging move he attempted to execute to avoid the rocks that the helmsman ultimately screwed up by turning the ships stern towards the rocks last second. It's unbelievable the company was able to avoid criminal charges after hiring a helmsman who had no prior experience nor couldn't even communicate properly in English or Italian while also having a captain who had caused two ship wrecks previously.
Is the costa Concordia a thing people outside of europe know about? Because I have a feeling this is sometimes that was big in europe but not around the world. When this happened news shows here in Germany talked about this for like 2 weeks non stop XD
I remember hearing about it in Texas, but that was largely because me and family had been aboard another cruiser liner from the same company (Carnaval Triumph) when it happened.
Where I live in Arizona it was really big news. It had consistent coverage for about a week as new information came out. Like if you walked into a store where the owners had a TV on in was pretty likely that you'd be seeing the helicopter footage circle the ship. I wonder why my experience in America was so different from others I've been seeing.
About Friday the 13th, I don't know what's the tradition in Italy but here in Spain the day that is considered bad luck is Tuesday the 13th. As far as I know friday the 13th is an anglo-saxon superstition so no one other than english natives would give it a second thought.
@@DeReAntiqua Ok great, how many more countries are there in the world? Only about 20 at best believe on friday the 13th so think again, mate. Edit: Even then, your point is moronic. Even if us, the italians and greeks are the odd ones out the ship is italian so what's your point? They still wouldn't believe in Friday the 13th no matter whether most of europe does or not lol
@@gnarlynikki The actual saying here in Spain is "En martes 13 ni te cases ni te embarques", which would roughly translate as "don't get married or embark on a ship on a tuesday the 13th".
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The "distracted by lover" is relevant not because of the "lover" part, but because no one outside the authorized personnel is allowed on the bridge.
I think he was trying to show off and impress her.
@@michaelbugner7011 It was discovered that WASN'T the case in the Q&A as the sister to one of the crew members was living on the island they were passing so it's more likely that they got close to make a special moment for the two family members, people have lied about what the captain was doing the entire time and because it was adding more discredit to the captain the media took those lies and ran with it!
Yes and no. You are correct but the "authorized" personnel is at the Captain's discretion. If the Captain wants to invite his lady friend to the bridge it's his right as Captain to do so even though it's a bad look for him. For that matter sometimes they invite family members and trainees on the bridge as well (you obviously want future officers to know what a proper bridge would look like) however in situations like this where the ship is performing a maneuver you do generally want to keep the staff on bridge to a minimum. But in the end, if the Captain wants to show off to his mistress he's the Captain and he can do that, although if the ship crashes like here he's gonna be in serious trouble afterwards.
@@bob1986 Again the showing off to the "mistress" wasn't the case here, the Q&A covers that in fact there's even a quote from Historian himself that he mentions in the Q&A about a note one of the editors passed him which was "it's not like he had her bent over the wheel" this is just an example of the media taking ANYTHING that made the captain look bad and ran with it.
Well the captain made himself look bad, and whether or not she was a "distraction" or not does not absolve him of anything
It is incredible that they didn't think that everyone steering the ship needed to speak the same language.
Sadly, it happens a lot. Foreign workers are cheaper because they are poor, and the companies are corrupt and cheap.
Oh I assure you they thought about it, they just didn't think that the captain would be so stupid as to put them in a situation like this. The other possibility is that, if anything did go tits up, the fine for the damages would be less than that I'm paying a competent crew that all spoke the same language.
You know car companies do that. If they know there's a flaw with the vehicle, and the cost of recalling and repairing all the vehicles is more than that of a lawsuit due to the failed part, they'll let the part fail and eat a lawsuit.
There's a navigator who reacted to this and he said it's not uncommon for ships to have crew members of different nationalities, thus resulting in language barriers that more often than not causes communication breakdown.
@@Tamaki742 That is really, really stupid for a $400 million ship. You would think that the insurance companies would require all the people in charge of steering the ship speak English the way pilots and air traffic controllers are required to.
Diversity is our strength
Fun fact: Captain's last name sounds kinda like a Russian word "Skotina" which basically means "scumbag"
"There are no accidents" - Master Oogway
"We don't make mistakes, just happy little accidents"- Bob ross
@@TinosHut idk, this was a pretty big accident
Reminds me how the antagonist in Doom 3 is named betruger which if I remember correctly is German for betrayer.
Did you call this another video I swear I seen this comment before
This is the third reaction that I’ve watched of this video and I just noticed that when he threw the bell overboard he played the little sound Rose made when she threw the heart of the ocean into the water.
Lmfao that's great! Good observation!
My favorite thing in this story is that the Craptain told reporters that he left the ship last... while people were still trapped on the ship.
I think the most amazing thing about all of this to me is the fact that the Korean couple somehow slept through the whole thing.
I've slept through a car gas explosion a couple houses from my house once. I didn't even half wake up
By now I've seen every Costa Concordia reaction there is, I bet
Any personal favorites?
@@TheLastHylianTitan The Renegades' reaction, they expressed both the most anger and laughed the most at the jokes.
I liked queen blaze's reaction
@@abokoblin2156 yoo, queenblaze is so good.
@@TheLastHylianTitan This one, Queenblaze and The Renegades.
Nikki's pure confusion and disbelief throughout this video is what gives me the energy to wake up in the morning.
Weird energy to wake up to
@@mdragarg😂😂😂
Is so crazy how far narcissism and charisma can get you in this world. And also crazy how those two things can ruin lives.
aint that the truth
Tell ya what, fucking props to that deputy mayor for having more balls then not only the captain but every other politician in the world.
First off, was hoping to see you guys do this one. I think what makes this video so good is that IH brings his specific humor, but he keeps it serious when talking about the wounded and the loss of life. He never comes off malicious to anyone involved that didn’t absolutely deserve it. Plus he really does his research, and as the end says, he usually follows up and makes corrections if he needs to.
*copies other people's research and covers his ass when caught out
Gotta love Nikki giving a look as if she's thinking, "What is world?..." throughout most of the viewing. XD
yeah her look of disbelief throughout the crash is so raw.
When tragedies occur, there are always heroes and cowards and the aftermath reveals villains and victims, it is as true here as any disaster, events like this reveal character and quality
Most people: "If you are bothered by reactors talking over videos go watch the original"
Meanwhile they are more expressive without uttering a word than most reactors with all their screaming, yelling and talking over the actual video
@Esseks I like ones who are just right in the middle like The Renegades. They talk about the video but they always pause it first so they don’t miss anything so you get both reaction and response.
I never got the argument that they’re stealing views. It’s not like I was going to watch the original video 12 times.
@Esseks Cool essay, wouldn't of put it better myself. I'd say, in my opinion, there are some rules a reaction video should follow to be fair.
1. React at least a couple of days after the actual video.
2. Talk, conceal or disrupt the video enough for it to be valuable to watch the original video as well as the reaction.
3. DON'T BE LIKE FORSEN.
@Esseks Yeah, I understand your pain. When someone talks too much or pauses too much of the video. However, it was mainly drawing back to Forsen, who let's his chat do his job and puts the video full-screen without any overlay or face cam. But also you it also points to the fact that you can do more things with the original video (like inverting colours etc.)
@Esseks Well, yeah, no complaints here. The only time I get annoyed at reactors if they are profiting off someone's work with no alterations or they have more subscribers than someone who deserves it (but that isn't justified).
Geez that couple must be really heavy sleepers if they slept through A FREAKIN' SHIPWRECK. Seriously, I have no clue how you would sleep through something like that.
Sleeping pills I'd assume.
you ever try sleeping pills?
The faces you two were making while watching this is exactly what I was doing too lmao. How can the captain suck so much
The owner of the company I was working at was on this ship. He later fled the country to avoid child support payments.
Do those two things correlate in some way?
@@psychokinrazalon I mean, looking at Mr. Captain...
@@edim108 ???
I've heard people speculate that Schettino probably made it to captain so fast, and probably at all, due to some form mafia involvement. Just speculation though, so who really knows.
A definite factor is that - on these cruiseships - the captain is also a bit of a PR guy.
Make people feel welcome. Schmooze. La vida loca.
Who cares, these ships drive themseeelves! :V
@@JoshSweetvale Yeah... drive themselves...
Not likely. He had all the qualifications, but captain positions are limited and rare so you bide your time doing other things in the industry while you wait for one to open up
yes as josh said, you could have all the qualifications to be a captain but with no spots open, you can be put somewhere els in the industry until a spot opens up for you.
Nah, he had all the proper qualifications and experience. He was just a fucking idiot.
I know it's long but in my opinion before this episode came out the best internet historian video was the Engoodening of No Mans Sky
Either that one or The Swedish Job
or The Fall of 76
Or Pools Closed
every single one is a masterpiece
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Hm I guess this story wasn't really that famos (or rather infamos) outside of Europe. I remember in Germany the news reported quite extensively on the whole disasterat the time.
Same in the UK, was reported so much, was surprised to see so many people hadn't heard about it.
I remember hearing about it in 2012 when I was in high school here in the USA, but everyone quickly forgot about it after that
Same here in Spain. They spent about a week talking about it every day.
No, it was huge in Australia (We have a massive Italian population idk if that helped)
It was infamous here in Brazil.
Nikki looks so fed up with the captain's behavior
also its outrageous how the Ship cost around 500 M while the refloating attempt cost around 1 Billion, it cost more to float it back than to build it!
I am surprised that almost nobody who reacted to this, knew what it was about when they read the title.
It wasn’t really a big headline stateside.
@@CaliberStone oh ok
The people who were asleep, remember the ship cut power pretty quickly, like seconds, they were likely in bed, jostled awake and when they checked the door it was locked.
What marked me more is that when the Captain was back in his hotel and being asked why he wasn't the last one leaving the ship, and him saying he was, the counter at the top left was saying there was still around 35 people still ON the ship.
So they were still being evacuated, but he said "nah, we're all safe" -_-
Schettino's that guy who'd crash into and total your car then tell you "Don't worry. It'll buff out."
why people are always surprised that they were playing >? if i was a musician on this ship there is no way i am missing this chance!
internett historian is the master of making me hyped or stressed the entire crash got me on the edge of my seat and i already knew what was gonna happen
Nikki during this entire video: *blinking white guy meme*
I remember seeing this on the news and after i read about it im surprised that only 32 people died. It sank on Friday the 13th 2012 on the 100th anniversary of the Titanic sinking. Coincidence I THINK NOT
49:55 That is because he's probably acknowledging the fact that anyone in those same conditions could risk becoming like that, meaning: never take yourself for granted, always keep your guard up; whereas (I suppose) you are thinking "that's never going to happen to me, I'm a better person than that", which you most likely are, but yet, it's always better to keep your guard up. During hard times, emotions can twist your reason in ways you couldn't possibly imagine and it's really hard to even realise it.
"I slipped and fell in a life boat..." Best lie ever... (/sarcasm)
What made this highly amusing to me was to watch both your facial reactions to this film, knowing you both knew nothing. I wasn't disappointed. I was watching everything on the Concordia just to see if the cowardly captain got jailed and some justification for the passengers and loss of life.
You can have the most advanced technology but the weakest link will always be us humans
The second a ship begins sinking the company that owns it no longer pays the crew, as legally they're paid to work on a ship and the second a ship begins sinking it is no longer classified as a ship
Pretty sure that would depend on the company and country
@Lemon Grab Well, I think you should reconsider your argument if it's literally appeared on the Wikipedia article about the Brace Position smack dab on the Myth section
I feel like this info was from QI when Stephen Fry brought this question up
@@FandomChronicle Meaning it's not very reliable xD
30:03
Cant stop laughing, my cheeks hurts
Alright, been waiting for this. Thanks man
I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but hiring a helmsman who has no prior experience, having a captain who's caused multiple accidents already, all combined with the language barriers and the complacency of people like the third officer makes it hard to believe that no-one at Costa Crociere saw this disaster coming.
This is why you immediately shut all water tight doors preemptively just in case.
Of course there were dugs on board. All these rich people going without their cocaine? PUH-LEASE!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR CHAD, NIKKI, & SHORTY! :)
Even after having watched this video multiple times Nikki's reactions never get old 🤣😂
Apparently, the captain was trying to do a nicety for some big shot. Also, the police chief thought the man was thinking of throwing himself onto the rocks when he was on that cliff so I would assume he wasn't all there at that point. I don't think that makes it any better and he still deserves his jail time 2x over in my opinion but really it seems like everyone threw him under the bus which kind of means it overshadowed the other screwups the bridge staff was making. Like if someone was relaying coordinates this might have never happened or he might have realized sooner he was too close. Like if he figured it out 8 secs sooner maybe this would have never happened. If you look at airliners, stuff like that would get you in some serious trouble. Really the whole command staff messed up bad and all deserve at least some time in the slammer, but it seems like everyone else got off with house arrest or community service. Only real saving grace was the company got hit by that 25% stock dip and the near 2 billion hit they had to pay for the cleanup.
Nikki’s reactions is literally all our own😂😂😂😂
Before I make my comment, big ups for reacting to a video this long! I made a big fat steak when I got home and saw the upload. We're vibing!
Now, everybody makes mistakes. If the ship sank because of a language barrier and they notified the authorities immediately, this would have just been very, very, unfortunate waste of an absolutely beautiful vessel. They're right off the coast and the authorities can handle a situation like this easily with enough warning.
Deciding to make everything worse by fucking lying about it is inexcusable bullshit. Like, why? You're going to rescue your ship that's fucked? How? Maybe nobody will notice that they're underwater? Be a man. If the ship is drifting and your position as 'captain' doesn't mean anything, stay in contact with authorities and instruct everyone to assist all the passengers, including going to every single cabin and making sure they're empty. Props to all the authorities including the coast guard.
there is a line where not revealing 100% of the truth is acceptable.
now, this is for the passengers obviously. the reason is to avoid panic, since panic can kill them even faster.
notice that is said "not revealing 100% of the truth" which is different of a complete lie because if they caught you lying then the panic will be even worse.
So what does this means? The ship is sinking, yes, but you cant say it to the people, most will panic because of that. You can say that there are problems, you can say you are looking into it, that is acceptable. Now another difference to what happened there. when you dont reveal all the truth it has to be for one reason: making sure the people dont panic so you can evacuate them in a safe way. So the right thing to do would be say to them that there are problems with the ship, they are looking into it, but for precaution they need to go to the muster station, and eventually evacuate them, there will still be some people with a chance to panic but those we are told to detect and deal separately to make sure it doesnt spread.
i want you to focus on what my point is here. im not saying they should lie, im saying they should only reveal the necessary to make people move to where you want them to safely evacuate them. and there it is another keyword in my point "to safely evacuate them" whcih is something they took a lot of time to do. In this case they lied to make them go to their cabins and stuff like that, when we (or at least me) were taught in the maritime school that we do that to evacuate them.
This is for the passengers side, now you also have the coast guard. To the only entity that can provide rescue, you are right, you cant lie. I admit that you might not be aware yet if you can save the ship (not talking about this case in specific now), but you still need to contact them. contacting them doesnt mean you need to straight away ask for help, you can tell them the situation and say that you dont need help at the moment but for them to stand by. Whats the difference? well the difference is that the coast guard would be ready to act with all means necessary if the captain decides to ask for rescue. by lying they werent ready when that moment arrived.
@@13dg I concede your point, there's a line. He found that line and then high jumped over it.
I would like to point something out, they didn’t crash due to language barrier. Although that did play a small part in it, no the captain said port 20. However the helmsman, probably due to the stress of the situation and the fact that he was a nooby, turned starboard instead of port. That was their downfall. But other than that, both of you guys have great points.
@@austinmeyer_238 when there is an accident it is never for 1 reason. You can see on reports of any accident, they will reveal a group of reasons, since accidents happen after a chain of mistakes is made (a group of nearmisses leads to a bigger accident).
You can pick 3 main factors here: Language barrier, complacency and inexperience.
Language barrier is what started the problem, without it probably they wouldn't be on a situation where the other 2 factors would come into play. This is why we are told that on board it is mandatory to relay every order when it is given to us, and repeat it again after is completed, when who gives the order repeats again to acknowledge that the order is completed. So a order is said at least 4 times which helps to avoid misunderstandings caused by language barrier.
Then with the problems caused by the language barrier they got themselves in a dangerous position, they could get out safely if they noticed earlier, but they didn't because of complacency. For this we are taught to always expect someone else to screw up. This one is a tricky one. What our teachers on maritime school said is that we shouldn't focus on the tasks of the others and should instead focus on our own, but at the same time trust that the others can fail, so to keep a lookout for that, so you know if any correction is needed. This usually is a problem because of that way of thinking: "it is not my responsibility (that specific task) so it is not my concern" this is wrong because on the bridge we are all responsible, each one at different degrees but still all responsible.
Now language barrier lead to a dangerous position, complacency lead to a worse situation and now you have the inexperience, in this case from the helmsman. Unfortunately there is not much you as an officer can do in this part. You can only acknowledge the lack of experience of a specific crewmember and pay more attention to it.
So here you can point at least 3 main factors for the accident each with the same degree on importance. One alone wouldn't cause this mess. But at the same time, take one (yes, just one) of these factors of the chain and you avoid the accident.
Now from the 3, language barrier is quite difficult to overcome, they could try to find a way but it is hard on the spot to do so. Inexperience is the same as language barrier, there is not much you can do on the moment to correct it.
This leaves one factor, complacency, this one they could and should have avoided, specially knowing that the other 2 factors were there (lets be honest, it is quite obvious the language barrier and inexperience) so they should have made an extra effort to make sure each task is being done correctly.
And all this leads to another factor that you can add to the chain. Situational awareness. They had no clue were the ship was in comparison to the predicted course. This is other problem that the factor of complacency helped to worsen the situation. If they had all of them doing their tasks properly they would have known the exact position of the ship and corrected the course earlier.
@@13dg i h listed the others in the video. As such i did not want to repeat what was said.
You should definitely watch his In The Field/Quarantines. They are hilarious and some of my favorite videos by him.
I dont think I've heard of this incident but this was awful to watch and seeing how many mistakes could have been avoided and all the people who died could have lived it's just ridiculous.
You guys didn't talk that much during this video (understandably because the topic of the video is really captivating and sad) but this reaction was still so much fun to watch lol. Keep up the good work! ❤ The facial reactions/expressions were so funny to watch 😂
Excellent Reaction and Awesome Commentary at the end👍🏾💯
Nikki's face during this is priceless! 🤣
If you think that your judicial system is shit .... Well think of that of my country (I'm Italian), which is even more shit.
I hate the captain, he should be in prison for the rest of his life, but no, he only got 16 years in prison.
Well in fairness he didn't commit murder, he was neglectful of his duties, he should never hold a job that holds responsibility over any members of the public though
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 usually it 25 years minimum no ? it 32 peoples
Didn't he say it got raised to 26 years after the appeals?
If it helps, he'll be over 70 when his prison sentence ends, so it's entirely possible he *was* sent to prison for the rest of his life.
@@MrPoc100 Yeah, but it was incompetence. He didn't maliciously murder anyone; which, I think is more important than the damage done. It like the difference between tripping and accidentally pushing a piano off of a building, which then kills someone; compared to intentionally pushing a piano off of a building to kill someone. The main purpose of prison should be to keep dangerous people away from the public, not punish people. I think that it's a decent verdict that encourages accountability, while not being excessive.
You guys have to react to the Engoodening of No Man's Sky and The Fall of 76. I know it's videogame related and you may not be into it, but you might be surprised as to how appealing they are even to non-gaming people.
41:09 Bit of context for that clip. The pedestrian walking across the street got honked at by the driver with the dashcam for jaywalking in front of him. In response, the pedestrian decided to stare at the driver and intentionally slow down, but ended up walking straight into the pole because he wasn't looking where he was going.
I really enjoy your reactions to IH, Dude is a legend - Hope you can get round to all his stuff + second channel soon! Keeping a close eye :D Subscribed
I think the fall of 76 is probably his best one.
4:47 That reaction describes exactly how I saw myself the whole video
I mean.. to be fair.. What the fuck are they supposed to tell the passengers, except "everything is under control, please remain calm". Should they rather say "we're fucked, going down and probably gonna die"? Panic is the least thing you need in a moment like that.
Like seen here, as soon as they announced that the passengers get the fuck off that ship and sounded the alarms, panic broke out.
The amount of incompetency in that tragedy is super disgusting and that "captain" should be in jail for a LONG time.
Ooh, Nikki got a new look! I love it, it’s fabulous!
Oj, The engoodening of no man's sky, the fall of 76, Goop, Goop part 2 :)
When captains run routes an incredible amount of times they can feel the distance from shore by their eyes alone so thats why he said its a common thing but only common with very experienced captains
That's why historically the captain always went down with the ship. They always blame the caption regardless blame.
Imagine if the magician hadn't remembered to flip the latch. That would of been one of the most horrifical and cruel deaths ever. Locked in a box whilst everyone else flees for safety with no knowledge your even there whilst you wait for the ship to sink and for you to drown. That is terrifying to think of, at least some had a semblance of common sense.
You guys should react to documenting America's underbelly - all gas no brakes. Love the videos btw keep grinding💯
Didn't he lose his channel to a shady company?
@@kallemort yea he signed a 360 deal when he first started and I guess the company he signed with locked him out of all social media accounts. The company has control over the youtube and instagram now
@@DMGSPM Unfortunate, definitely not giving them views then.
why the captain did nothing and just sat on rocks is because he wanted to jump. he wanted to kill himself
They LITERALLY tried to yeet every conceivable pitfall at this thing. From a poorly thrown together crew to faulty design, to even every single jinx you can imagine (which, even if you don't believe in that stuff, at best, it's in extremely poor taste, at worse, it's like daring something bad to happen). What a shitshow... Also, Nikki's shirt is very disturbing.
12:37 thats boss music 2 from kid icurus uprising
on that instagram page of that woman (the moldovan) there's a comment in italian that says "forget about cockpits, for god's sake!"
anyway strange how this story isn't known outside europe, to be honest, it's strange how it seems years ago since that disaster, with all the information that we have we kinda forgot even important things
i remember well that the admiral became viral (the famous phone call) basically he didn't have informations about the ship or contradictory stories about that..."man" and given the situation where you can potentially put your men in danger, he remained pretty calm for standards...i mean, anyone else would have lose control a lot more
enjoyed your reaction, greetings from italy
Hey, it’s the hat guy from renegade media!
Internet Historian packs more memes per volume of content than any other content creator on God's green Earth.
Any other Internet Historian videos would be sick
So, there's another reaction to this that I think you lads might be worth watching even if it's not as a reaction of your own (yes, I'm aware of the react seption there) and they give a lot more insight to how this kind of field works as well as the effect this kind of incident affected the industry.
16 years just shows how light handed Europe punishments compared to the US is huge
...As a european some of this shit boils my blood. I'm sorry but he should rot away in jail. How come he gets to live a life while people who didn't do anything wrong and their families can't? Only way I could accept it is if he spent the rest of his days making up for it to each an everyone of those families and it still wouldn't be enough. Anyone with a little dignity or pride would've gone done with the fucking boat rather than be made the laughing stock
16 years is extremely long when you think about it though, I feel like he deserves that or the 26 years though. The U.S is kind of crazy by giving decades of prison for very small things.
@@SolProxy sure but when you mess up THIS badly the US heavy handed system is the way to go...unless you have the right friends.
@@hagnartheviking6584 I just don't agree. Serving over 2 decades in prison and having a ruined rep are in my opinion enough. Yes, people died and their loss can never be paid back with anything. But I just can't agree with giving him life in prison. Depends on if after his sentence he says he doesn't regret what he had done. Then I feel like he shouldn't be let go.
"Under New York State law, the penalty for possession of 16 ounces of marijuana is equivalent to that for illegally selling a firearm, or for possessing an explosive bomb or machine gun: a minimum jail sentence of one to three years (and a maximum of seven). The penalty for selling 16 ounces of marijuana is equivalent to that for illegally selling 10 firearms: 3? to 15 years in jail. The absurd message: pot is as or more harmful than guns."
Source: "Drugs and Guns in New York State," compiled by Carl Bromley, from The Nation magazine, Sept. 20, 1999, "Beyond Legalization: New Ideas for Ending the War on Drugs."
Stuff like this is what I find ridiculous about the U.S. system.
@@SolProxy Not that long, thats literally only 6 months per person killed.
Cheers for this!
10:47 that's definitely contaminating a crime scene
Why would you lie to the harbourmaster
Also captain is meant to be the last one off the ship
Side note when the pictures of the damage are showing why does Nikki look like she’s going to cry
27:56 the guy was trying to be Harry Potter
His best video is definitely the engoodening of no mans sky or the fall of 76, please react to those
I think where the captain failed was his denial of the situation and his decisions to delay the abandoning of the ship (also all the lying). The decision to abandon ship should of been made after the engineers confirmed that at least 3 compartments had flooded on a ship rated for 2 compartment flooding. His own personal decision to abandon ship is also inexcusable. I believe the captain has a duty to go down with the ship. He did seem like he at least knew how to maneuver the vessel (though he should of never allowed the ship to get that close to shore) with that complex swinging move he attempted to execute to avoid the rocks that the helmsman ultimately screwed up by turning the ships stern towards the rocks last second. It's unbelievable the company was able to avoid criminal charges after hiring a helmsman who had no prior experience nor couldn't even communicate properly in English or Italian while also having a captain who had caused two ship wrecks previously.
I remember
How close y’all use to be and that’s what led me to finish the series
Oh hey look, it’s the hat guy.
The fact that the captain only got a 16 year sentence is infuriating
why did you cut out the flying pasta and espressos after the colission? did you find it racist?
Probably, you know how soft people are nowadays, especially most Twitter users. You can say good day and they'll start throwing out ALL the insults
@@thelordofthelostbraincells right
I'm pretty sure they had to cut it out because the video got copyright claimed.
You gotta react to his other channel's Sundance Film Swedish Art Heist. That is true masterpiece in a similar style to this, but more movie like
May sound random but that intro song 🔥😔🙏made me feel ecstatic
@@khode667 that is my band! Check out the full song here: ruclips.net/video/egptkx-MG40/видео.htmlsi=FI4nLzjbdyAUI9bO
Will definitely check it out
React to the opening of the last of us up to the point of the intro credits. The feels. Great channel btw.
Is the costa Concordia a thing people outside of europe know about? Because I have a feeling this is sometimes that was big in europe but not around the world. When this happened news shows here in Germany talked about this for like 2 weeks non stop XD
It was big here in Brazil.
In america in 2012 was just showing the "oh the end of the world coming" 2013 bullshit.
I remember hearing about it in Texas, but that was largely because me and family had been aboard another cruiser liner from the same company (Carnaval Triumph) when it happened.
Where I live in Arizona it was really big news. It had consistent coverage for about a week as new information came out. Like if you walked into a store where the owners had a TV on in was pretty likely that you'd be seeing the helicopter footage circle the ship. I wonder why my experience in America was so different from others I've been seeing.
The sea is a very unforgiving mistress and she teaches very very harsh lessons.
I wonder if this was the cruise that comedian John Pinette was on.
Life and Lady Luck loved that captain.
You would think such big ships would have layered hulls so getting a hole in the outer layer would not sink the half a billion dolar ship. well
Internet Historians Stuff is always such High Quality is absurd
Man it felt like a movie
32:35 nick lost his shit at that part of the video
I don't think it is the best IH's video, because the bar is too high, "The Engoodening of No Man's Sky" is the best in my opinion.
I still liked the fall of 76 best.
About Friday the 13th, I don't know what's the tradition in Italy but here in Spain the day that is considered bad luck is Tuesday the 13th. As far as I know friday the 13th is an anglo-saxon superstition so no one other than english natives would give it a second thought.
@@DeReAntiqua Ok great, how many more countries are there in the world? Only about 20 at best believe on friday the 13th so think again, mate.
Edit: Even then, your point is moronic. Even if us, the italians and greeks are the odd ones out the ship is italian so what's your point? They still wouldn't believe in Friday the 13th no matter whether most of europe does or not lol
I’m so superstitious that I’m now going to have to adopt the idea of Tuesday the 13th also being bad luck lmao 🤦♀️
@@gnarlynikki The actual saying here in Spain is "En martes 13 ni te cases ni te embarques", which would roughly translate as "don't get married or embark on a ship on a tuesday the 13th".
@@ragnar97 good to know! I’ll never forget it! Chad makes fun of me, but I’m super-superstitious.
@@DeReAntiqua Sure buddy
Fall of 76 and Engooding of No man's sky tho
Nikki reactions are the best. :')
Ye. 50% of the reason I watch these folks ;)
Ch- chad? AYE!
I wouldn´t say its the best video he`s ever made but its definitely good. My personal favourite is "Going Camping at the End of the World"
What is the background you guys are using ?
hello can you react to ssethtzeentach more specifically his space station 13 video ?